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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    I was going to go with a whole X.9 set up with Elixer brakes in Red, but I decided to go with what I know.... which is Shimano, Im sure I would be happy with either
    I'm happy with my Elixir 9s, but XTs feel even better imo. Even the SLX brakes are fantastic for the money. I do like the feel of SRAM drivetrain more though. At XT or X9 levels, you really can't go wrong with either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoban View Post
    Front derailleur is back ordered (SLX 3speed). Should be here soon. However, with the Blackspire stinger held the chain on awesome without it, even on jumps and drops. Slight noise with it, but don't notice while riding. Good deal for $40.
    Good to know! I installed a 30T andersen ring, BBG "bashwich" and also picked up a stinger off ebay for $22 just to be sure the chain stays on









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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    So I ended up ordering a Rock Shox revelation RLT for a temporary fix and bought a whole XT drive train with brakes in a month or so ill try looking for a better fork XFusion didn't answer for me I guess it's the time difference... Gotta love being in Japan
    I would just stay with the RS RLT. It's a great fork, and when it needs a service you can have it PUSHed. Did you get the Dual Air version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I would just stay with the RS RLT. It's a great fork, and when it needs a service you can have it PUSHed. Did you get the Dual Air version?
    no Its its a 2011 OE from Jenson

    Rockshox Revelation RLT 140 Oe Fork '11 > Components > Forks > Suspension Forks | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop

    Ill try it out and see how it goes from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    no Its its a 2011 OE from Jenson

    Rockshox Revelation RLT 140 Oe Fork '11 > Components > Forks > Suspension Forks | Jenson USA Online Bike Shop

    Ill try it out and see how it goes from there
    I think that's a dual air.
    Revelation RLT 140 2011 at Jenson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I think that's a dual air.
    Revelation RLT 140 2011 at Jenson
    This makes me more excited to try it out..... The reviews on bike reader were saying its mediocre..... Ill see how I enjoy the ride...... I'm sure it will be stiffer and actuall give me the 140mm of travel unlike my recent Float I just sold and only gave me 3.75 in of the 4.75 it claimed (2008 F120r)...... I can't wait to get my Cruz all put back together the frame could use a good cleaning as well

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    Finished my build...for now. Love this bike.

    2012 Nickel frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoban View Post
    Finished my build...for now. Love this bike.

    2012 Nickel frame
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    Sunringle MTX33 rims
    SLX cranks
    SLX 2x9 derailleurs
    Blackspire Stinger
    Blackspire pedals
    Answer 720 bars
    Jagwire cables
    Elixir 5 brakes with 185 rotors
    Bell / Kenda tires
    Very nice! Im waiting for a few things to come in then I have to save up to get some XT brakes and ill be set!
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    Love that color green! (won't quote the pics yet AGAIN)

    Another thing I don't get about SC discontinuing these frames. Why didn't they at least wait till they had sold down stock more? There were obviously several hundreds of frames fresh and ready to sell. (plus they still have to keep a decent batch for warranty replacements for a few years) So I wonder why didn't they didn't at least sell down their stock before dropping the line entirely... weird.
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    Finished my bashwich/stinger/andersen project and took the butcher out today. God help me I love this bike!



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    FYI, CompetitiveCyclist.com has a killer deal on a Nickel build right now. $1999 with some pretty legit components.

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    Awesome Marcus. Looks tits.

    I'm really wishing the Butcher was available, but I'm happy with the Nickel. Love the geo (seriously awesome), but I hope the longer shock I'm getting this week helps the travel feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoban View Post
    Awesome Marcus. Looks tits.

    I'm really wishing the Butcher was available, but I'm happy with the Nickel. Love the geo (seriously awesome), but I hope the longer shock I'm getting this week helps the travel feel.
    Thanks Paul! I'm sure changing the shock will help, even if was the standard length. The float just seems to plow through travel and doesn't feel any different than my 100mm bikes. I definitely want to do something with the shock on the butcher and soon.
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    Santa Cruz Butcher 650B

    Here's my ride..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudfoot124 View Post
    Here's my ride..
    Love the orange scheme! Great looking bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosquito1 View Post
    Love the orange scheme! Great looking bike!
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailjunkie12897 View Post
    Loving Mine
    Nice look.
    Is that red & orange

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    Great additions. I bet that 650b Butcher is an absolute beast.

    trailjunkie, what wheels and bars are those. Like the red.

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    installed some updates to my Nickel!!! couldn't be happier the shifting is unreal and extremely smooth, and the fork feels bottomless.... I was wrong to think this fork would be a temporary fork









    Full XT drive train upgrade, with a Truvativ AM stem 70mm, Shimano XT Ice Tech Rcenter lock rotors, Shimano XT hubs, and a Rock Shox Revelation RLT fork..... still to come XT brakes and a dropper post

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    Nice! Same fork I'm using. How much do you weigh? And what setup are you using on the fork?

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    @DanReal: That´s a nice built!

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    Weighed the butcher today. 31.36 LBS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Nice! Same fork I'm using. How much do you weigh? And what setup are you using on the fork?
    Im running 125 up top and about 120 below.... I need to change it up some Im about 200 with gear but I want my fork a little more plush ill mess with it some more this weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobiwan View Post
    @DanReal: That´s a nice built!
    thanks I appreciate it!

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    Anyone know if there are any Butcher frames still out there. Trying to build one up for my brother and just can't find one anywhere. Any help would be appreciated.

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    there's a couple on pinkbike. the path bike shop has one as well
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    Butcher owners. Assume I don't care about the warranty. Does anyone ride a 180mm fork with their Butcher? Is it a bad idea.

    I do mostly light DH and FR and some trail. Not a long ride guy. Thinking about getting a Fox 36 Van RC2. I can always drop it to 170...thoughts?

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    i dont see why not, i park ride with a 160 float. 180 would be very nice.

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    question for any one who knows.... Ive just got a Shimano XT FD-M786 Front Derailleur in and its not fitting.... what front Derrailleur do I need? SC says a 34.9 top swing/top pull front derailleur..... didn't know it had to be a certain height.... am i missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    question for any one who knows.... Ive just got a Shimano XT FD-M786 Front Derailleur in and its not fitting.... what front Derrailleur do I need? SC says a 34.9 top swing/top pull front derailleur..... didn't know it had to be a certain height.... am i missing something?
    I just sold my butcher and have one that won't fit my new surly.
    Only has 15 miles on it.
    PM me if interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roxo56 View Post
    I just sold my butcher and have one that won't fit my new surly.
    Only has 15 miles on it.
    PM me if interested.
    Thanks! If I were in the states I would jump on it.... (assuming your in the states) but im just gonna try to run my old deore until I can find a local shop that has the FD-M775

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    question for any one who knows.... Ive just got a Shimano XT FD-M786 Front Derailleur in and its not fitting.... what front Derrailleur do I need? SC says a 34.9 top swing/top pull front derailleur..... didn't know it had to be a certain height.... am i missing something?
    Isn't that a direct mount? If it is, you can't use it on a Nickel of Butcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Isn't that a direct mount? If it is, you can't use it on a Nickel of Butcher.
    nope its a clamp style just a High clamp im assuming.... Which SC would have stated that the high clamp didnt work.... then again I should have known

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    Whats the best dropper post to get for my nickel? Im thinking a KS i950..... thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    Whats the best dropper post to get for my nickel? Im thinking a KS i950..... thoughts?
    Sneak Peek: X-Fusion Hilo SL Dropper Post | Mountain Bike Review ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    Whats the best dropper post to get for my nickel? Im thinking a KS i950..... thoughts?
    I've owned a HILO, KSi950 & Supernatual, and Reverbs. The HILO wasn't too good in my opinion. The i950 works ok. The Supernatural crapped out after 2 rides. And the Reverbs have worked spectacularly. I run Reverbs on my Nickel and Butcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    Whats the best dropper post to get for my nickel? Im thinking a KS i950..... thoughts?
    I hear lots of good things about the Reverb. Thompson is coming out with one real soon. Check the link

    Thompson Elite Dropper hydraulic seatpost | BikeRadar

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    Reverb FTW. Had mine since June and its been awesome. SRAM warranty/service has been good as well.

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    I've been eyeing the 170mm lyrik for trips to the bike park and riding the more aggressive stuff.

    Lyrik RC2 DH | SRAM

    Quote Originally Posted by gcdavis33 View Post
    Butcher owners. Assume I don't care about the warranty. Does anyone ride a 180mm fork with their Butcher? Is it a bad idea.

    I do mostly light DH and FR and some trail. Not a long ride guy. Thinking about getting a Fox 36 Van RC2. I can always drop it to 170...thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    Whats the best dropper post to get for my nickel? Im thinking a KS i950..... thoughts?
    I've been running that post on on my Nomad for a 2 x 12 month seasons. Works great.
    Safe riding,

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcdavis33 View Post
    Butcher owners. Assume I don't care about the warranty. Does anyone ride a 180mm fork with their Butcher? Is it a bad idea.

    I do mostly light DH and FR and some trail. Not a long ride guy. Thinking about getting a Fox 36 Van RC2. I can always drop it to 170...thoughts?
    I have fitted a 180 talas on my butcher...I don't quite comfortable with it...as the angle is abit off...160mm would be good

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    made some more updates on my Cruz....
    Rock Shox Revelation 140mm RLT w/15mm TA
    Cane Creek 110 Headset
    Full Shimano XT drive train 2x10
    Shimano XT Hydro trail brakes with Ice tech center lockrotors
    Truvativ AKA AM 70mm Stem
    Shimano XT M788 hubs with Mavic hoops (Nothing special)
    Crank bros Mallets 3

    Coming in the mail is a KS i950 seat post








    yeah I know the hydro lines need to be trimmed im waiting for the bleed kit to come in

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    Ya I think I am going to jump on the Van 180 and drop it to 170 which I have read is pretty simple just swap out the air shaft assembly and see how it works. Hopefully it will prevent some over the handlebar events of late

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcdavis33 View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcdavis33 View Post
    Ya I think I am going to jump on the Van 180 and drop it to 170 which I have read is pretty simple just swap out the air shaft assembly and see how it works. Hopefully it will prevent some over the handlebar events of late

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    i dont think having a bigger fork will prevent that... by going that slow you're gonna go over the bars even with a DH bike.... on drops its all about momentum..... dig in and pull up on your bars... not sure how big that drop was but from what it looks like maybe a ft to 2 ft drop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    i dont think having a bigger fork will prevent that... by going that slow your gonna go over the bars even with a DH bike.... on drops its all about momentum..... dig in and pull up on your bars... not sure how big that drop was but from what it looks like maybe a ft to 2 ft drop?

    In my defense my current fork is a Fox 32 140 rlc. I thought a little more length could let me tentatively go over something like that with less momentum and ride it out. I settled on a RS Lyric RC2 DH 170mm...and ya totally wussed out on that because I was riding it for the first time...but it was pretty weak. But a great fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAnREal View Post
    i dont think having a bigger fork will prevent that... by going that slow your gonna go over the bars even with a DH bike.... on drops its all about momentum..... dig in and pull up on your bars... not sure how big that drop was but from what it looks like maybe a ft to 2 ft drop?
    Totally agree... You may wanna try leaning further back for speeds that slow to prevent over the bars... Fingers of the front brake too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcdavis33 View Post
    I settled on a RS Lyric RC2 DH 170mm....
    Nice choice! Keep us posted on how it works out for you.
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    i have a few question for the 650b Butcher guys....
    ☞1. there is room between the shock linkage & seat mast; have any of you used a slightly longer eye to eye, making even more room for rear wheel? im kicking around the idea of a CaneCreek D/B.
    ☞2. have the 650b guys stepped up in fork to the suggested 160mm?
    ☞3. any ideas on what the biggest tire width that is usable in this combo? i currently run 2.5 and would likely cry if i cant keep my monster tires ☹
    i present you "Mrs Cleaver" (btw that a 20mm profile classic i machined to fit 15mm)


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