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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBforlife View Post
    TWow what happened to me, I sound like my wife trying to pick a color of paint or something

    Let's face it, bikes are nothing more than man-jewelry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sriracha View Post
    Let's face it, bikes are nothing more than man-jewelry.

    Don't tell the ladies!

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    I agree to a point.

    Quote Originally Posted by sriracha View Post
    Let's face it, bikes are nothing more than man-jewelry.
    I love a sexy bike.
    Last edited by MTBforlife; 10-17-2012 at 09:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBforlife View Post
    The color scheme is going to be White Frame, white fork, white seat, white grips with red clamps, red seat collar, the wheels are black with red nipples, Red Chris king head set, red ROCO, everything else is black or carbon.

    My vision of this build is primarily white, secondary Black with red highlights. My goal is not to have too much red.

    Wow what happened to me, I sound like my wife trying to pick a color of paint or something
    Sounds like it is going to be a nice build. I'm going with a 200 X 57 shock too (Probably the Roco TST R air).

    Here's my Nickel's parts list:
    Large 2012 Army Green Nickel with stock Float RL and a 7.785 x 2.25 in the rear future
    2010 Lyrik set at 140mm (may bump up to 150mm)
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Thomson 70mm Stem
    Answer 720 2" rise "ape hanger" bars
    XT brakes
    XT 10spd rear derailleur
    SLX cranks with ronnie ring
    Thomson post
    Hadley hubs on Stans ZTR Flow's (rear) Mavic 819 front
    Maxxis DHF 2.5 rear, Kenda Nevegal 2.35 front
    Shimano 647 pedals.

    weight is 34lbs



    This pic was taken while I waited for my front derailleur
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBforlife View Post
    The color scheme is going to be White Frame, white fork, white seat, white grips with red clamps, red seat collar, the wheels are black with red nipples, Red Chris king head set, red ROCO, everything else is black or carbon.

    My vision of this build is primarily white, secondary Black with red highlights. My goal is not to have too much red.

    Wow what happened to me, I sound like my wife trying to pick a color of paint or something
    A little like mine!

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    ^ My plans are, a 200 x 57mm shock and a newer 140 or 150mm Revelation fork. It's going to be a while tough. I did take the Racing Ralph's off and I converted a pair of WTB Mutano Raptor Race tires to ghetto tubeless. And, I installed a pair of red Halo hex skewers. And red ESI grips. I don't really like the grips, so they will be going soon.

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    Anyone tried butcher with coil shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenko View Post
    Anyone tried butcher with coil shock?
    I use a CCDB coil on my Butcher. Bike is set up with xfusion vengeance on the front. Feels very balanced for bigger days. Beats out the rp23 for those fast, rough days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raycje5 View Post
    I use a CCDB coil on my Butcher. Bike is set up with xfusion vengeance on the front. Feels very balanced for bigger days. Beats out the rp23 for those fast, rough days.
    i was thinking for putting a RC4..and fit a vanilla 160 or talas 150

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    Finely

    I finely finished building my new Nickle. I am going to take it out tomarrow. I will post a pic tomarrow. As is the bike weighs 29.5#

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    Here is my 26# Nickel 650b, I recently removed the crank spider and now run an MRP bling ring but this bike is a hoot on the trails, likes to wheelie over debris and pops off small jumps allot easier than my other bikes, fun.




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    2014 Giant Anthem 27.5 here.

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    Here is my new Nickle

    I love this thing. So far I have been out on two rides with her.

    Build includes:

    Large Frame
    Marzocchi 44 RC3 Ti fork
    Roco Lo Shock
    XT M780 drivetrain
    Hope M4 Evo Brakes 183 front, 160 rear
    Easton EA90 wheels
    Haven stem 85mm
    Easton Carbon Bars
    11 year old Easton EA70 seatpost (plan to change to adjustable post)
    WTB Wierfolf tires (tubeless)
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    Wow!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by madsedan View Post
    Here is my 26# Nickel 650b, I recently removed the crank spider and now run an MRP bling ring but this bike is a hoot on the trails, likes to wheelie over debris and pops off small jumps allot easier than my other bikes, fun.




    How did you get the weight down to 26#? I understand you are going without a front derailleur and rings but no way that weighs 3-4 #s

    I went as light as possible on my build with the exception of my suspension package (prefer performance over weight, only 1/4# weight penalty) and stem, it still came in at 29.5.

    I thought about going 650b but I ultimately decided to go with a 200x57 rear shock instead, boost the travel up to 142mm.

    I believe I read somewhere that somebody would push out a litter of kittens if someone got a Nickle down to 26#

    Nice build

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    Mine is just under 27 lbs. it's getting lighter tomorrow with a lighter but longer and better fork. The wheels are Spinergy Enduros at 1850 grams per set. I could lose a lot of weight there, but I like these wheels. I could get to 26 lbs with a couple changes.

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    Nice

    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Mine is just under 27 lbs. it's getting lighter tomorrow with a lighter but longer and better fork. The wheels are Spinergy Enduros at 1850 grams per set. I could lose a lot of weight there, but I like these wheels. I could get to 26 lbs with a couple changes.
    My wheels are around1500 grams. I guess I could dump the Tubeless tires and put

    TCS or TL ready tires back on it when I first built it, before I took the pic.

    Im thinking about picking up some Nobby Nics but I cant justify $85 for a tire. I do have Weirfolf TCS tires and I bought a Bronson TCS for the rear, that might knock off another 1/2 pound. I could change the stem but I still have not found a stem that is light weight and did not flex that bad. My hope brakes are not the lightest but they only weigh about 1 once more than other models, slight weight penalty for a four piston bad ass brake.

    We definitly went with a similar scheme. I think I posted a pic of my bike already just in case here is a pic of my rig to compare.

    By the way the rear shock in the pic is a 200x57

    What do you think of that saddle? I have scene them around but I do not remember who made them.

    My bike has a WTB Silverado Saddle with Ti rails
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    For tires I'm now running WTB Mutano Raptor Races. They are my favorite, a little more aggressive and about the same weight.

    The saddle is a Tioga Spyder. It's the most comfortable saddle that I have owned. In fact a couple weeks ago I rode to work and I forgot to put my padded shorts under my baggies. I didn't even realize it till I went to the bathroom and saw that I had my normal underwear on. Then I thought that, now that I know that I forgot them, I thought for sure my butt would hurt on the way home. But the ride home was all comfy.

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    Can hope traditional 49.57mm bottom cup fit butcher 1.5 headtube?

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    Loving my budget built Nickel.
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    Nickel riders: what PSI are you running in your Float RL? I bottomed out several times last night at 150psi and even 160psi. I am 180lbs geared up.

    Also, my lockout on my brand new Float RL doesn't work. Break in period or faulty? Is the lockout hydraulic or mechanical on this shock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmscheip View Post
    Nickel riders: what PSI are you running in your Float RL? I bottomed out several times last night at 150psi and even 160psi. I am 180lbs geared up.

    Also, my lockout on my brand new Float RL doesn't work. Break in period or faulty? Is the lockout hydraulic or mechanical on this shock?
    I'm at 135psi, 160lbs. That gives me 25% sag. I have to keep adding more air as the shock breaks in. The lockout should work, even when new. I refuse to use it, it's not needed and can only lead to breaking something.

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    Did some upgrades ready for the warmer weather.


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    So forgive if it's been mentioned already.... this thread has been running for a long time. Search function wasn't helping much to rule out posting. This seemed like the most logical place to ask rather than starting a new thread.

    Has anyone tried offset shock hardware on the Nickel? (or Butcher) Looking to slacken my Nickel just a liiiitle bit more.

    I bought a cheap(er) headset for the build than I normally would just in case I'd end up anglesetting it in the future. Less dough wasted.

    BUT, I'd rather give the cheaper option of the offset hardware a try before taking the bling $ plunge with the purchase of an Angleset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dedmann View Post
    i present my Mrs. Cleaver

    you'll notice the hammerschmidts - the stock crank folded at the super d

    just yesterday i made a bash/skid plate out of abs sheet

    Where'd you get your Roskopp Screaming Hand sticker? That size looks good on the downtube. Is it the 3" decal?
    I'm an old guy that used to skate back in the day... (BMX as well)
    So, I may want to add the silver version of that sticker to my Black Nickel!
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    No actual shots of my Nickel yet, just on the stand with no chain...


    <img src="http://i.imgur.com/sdXwO.jpg" width="75%" height="75%">

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    At this point I do not know about changing the rocker to change the GEO. . I ran a angleset on a different bike and it creeked and creeked, even with anti-seize.

    I think the geo is perfect as is, but that is rider preference

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    After searching for months, I finally joined the club. Picked up an 2012 R size L Butcher for a SMOKING deal yesterday. Cant wait to start tinkering with it


    The Butcher is adding some much needed suspension travel to our santa cruz family
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    Awesome bike! Congrats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eastcoaster View Post
    Has anyone tried offset shock hardware on the Nickel? (or Butcher) Looking to slacken my Nickel just a liiiitle bit more.
    I thought about it but I've just ordered a longer fork for my Butcher. I know a dude in N.C. who's got a super slack Nickel with a 150 fork on it too and I think he's running the Burgtec hardware.

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    Changed the wheels to Mavic Crossmax ST's. Got rid of the large chain ring and added an MRP S4 Bash guard. Brought weight down to 29.2 Might change brakes to xt's. Avid 5's aren't cutting it
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidS View Post
    I thought about it but I've just ordered a longer fork for my Butcher. I know a dude in N.C. who's got a super slack Nickel with a 150 fork on it too and I think he's running the Burgtec hardware.
    Im running a 150mm fork on my Nickle and it is working out great

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBforlife View Post
    Im running a 150mm fork on my Nickle and it is working out great
    The Marzocchi RC3ti, right?

    That's the fork I have for my Nickel. I'm sooo close to completing the bike, but had to depart to the East Coast for Thanksgiving....longest week ever.

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    Yee haw!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sriracha View Post
    The Marzocchi RC3ti, right?

    That's the fork I have for my Nickel. I'm sooo close to completing the bike, but had to depart to the East Coast for Thanksgiving....longest week ever.
    That is one nice fork. So far I have been very pleased. In my opinion the fork plus its a-to-c length suits the frame perfectly

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATXZJ View Post
    The Butcher is adding some much needed suspension travel to our santa cruz family
    Dude.....

    ....we have the same 2 MTBs in the same two colors....

    We must have great taste!

    My gf has an Orbea d'Ella though and not a Juliana (if I'm seeing that correctly).



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    Here is my "HucknRoll Special" Nickel that I've been rocking since July out in its natural habitat getting dirty.

    Current parts list:
    Pike 454 coil
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Sunline V1 65mm Stem
    Sunline V1 OS 745mm x 38mm rise
    XTR Trail brakes
    X9 9spd rear derailleur
    X7 Shifters
    SLX cranks with BBG bashguard
    Cheap seatpost while I'm waiting for a new Reverb to replace the one that self distructed after 4 mo.
    Shimano M540 pedals
    WTB Frequency i23 rims laced to Hope Pro2 Evo hubs - bolt up rear, 20mm front
    Maxxis High Roller 2.35 rear, Maxxis Advantage 2.4 front - running tubeless

    Future Upgrades:
    Lighter fork - while I love the feel of the coil Pike it's a tank at 5lbs... (contemplating a lowered lyrik solo air for the stiffness and would still drop weight, or one of the 34mm stanchion offerings)

    Rear shock upgrade to 200x57mm to match the longer travel front end

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/d_buckley/8210627014/" title="Nickel by D.Buckley, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8202/8210627014_3baa3e00e2_b.jpg" width="1024" height="683" alt="Nickel"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Wankel View Post
    Here is my "HucknRoll Special" Nickel that I've been rocking since July out in its natural habitat getting dirty.

    Current parts list:
    Pike 454 coil
    Cane Creek 40 headset
    Sunline V1 65mm Stem
    Sunline V1 OS 745mm x 38mm rise
    XTR Trail brakes
    X9 9spd rear derailleur
    X7 Shifters
    SLX cranks with BBG bashguard
    Cheap seatpost while I'm waiting for a new Reverb to replace the one that self distructed after 4 mo.
    Shimano M540 pedals
    WTB Frequency i23 rims laced to Hope Pro2 Evo hubs - bolt up rear, 20mm front
    Maxxis High Roller 2.35 rear, Maxxis Advantage 2.4 front - running tubeless

    Future Upgrades:
    Lighter fork - while I love the feel of the coil Pike it's a tank at 5lbs... (contemplating a lowered lyrik solo air for the stiffness and would still drop weight, or one of the 34mm stanchion offerings)

    Rear shock upgrade to 200x57mm to match the longer travel front end

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/d_buckley/8210627014/" title="Nickel by D.Buckley, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8202/8210627014_3baa3e00e2_b.jpg" width="1024" height="683" alt="Nickel"></a>
    Very Nice. I was worried about weight up front as well. This is one of the reasons I went with the 44 RC3 Ti. Even though it is the heaviest 44 Marzocchi makes. The fork comes in at around 4 pounds, which is not bad for a coil, openbath fork. So far the fork is super solid.

    I decided to go without a adjustable post for now. I am tired of blowing them up. I have owned four different brands. I will buy a new one as soon as a company can come up with a design that can last for a couple years without failure
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    Heres one of my Butcher

    UPGRADES:
    Industry 9 AM's
    2012 Reverb
    Fox DHX 5.0 Air
    725 Bars
    2.4 Kenda's
    XT brakes soon to come


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    Love the orange! That looks awesome! Sweet ride!

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    At first my Nickle was working great but now the rear is flexing terribly. The rear end keeps wanting to follow the terrain versus following the front tire. When I am on off camber terrain the brakes will drag and the rear wheel will not track behind the front wheel. I am thinking about using a bolt on conversion for my rear wheel might stiffin it up a tad.

    The bike is still really nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBforlife View Post
    At first my Nickle was working great but now the rear is flexing terribly. The rear end keeps wanting to follow the terrain versus following the front tire. When I am on off camber terrain the brakes will drag and the rear wheel will not track behind the front wheel. I am thinking about using a bolt on conversion for my rear wheel might stiffin it up a tad.

    The bike is still really nice.
    There is something wrong, you should fix that first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTBforlife View Post
    At first my Nickle was working great but now the rear is flexing terribly. The rear end keeps wanting to follow the terrain versus following the front tire. When I am on off camber terrain the brakes will drag and the rear wheel will not track behind the front wheel. I am thinking about using a bolt on conversion for my rear wheel might stiffin it up a tad.

    The bike is still really nice.
    Definitely not a bad idea to check all of your pivot bolts, etc...or play in the rear hub possibly? It seems strange that it rode well at first and now is riding differently, something doesn't sound right there.

    That said, when I first built my Nickel up it was with a XT wheelset with a standard quick release. The switch to the my current setup with the bolt up hub made a very noticeable difference in stiffness out back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Wankel View Post
    The switch to the my current setup with the bolt up hub made a very noticeable difference in stiffness out back.
    What are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    What are you using?
    It's in his post

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Wankel
    WTB Frequency i23 rims laced to Hope Pro2 Evo hubs - bolt up rear, 20mm front
    Sounds and looks the bomb. Should be a Nickel HD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosquito1 View Post
    Love the orange! That looks awesome! Sweet ride!
    Thanks. I love everything about this bike. No complaints. The new i9's defiantly woke the bike up. Probly helped that I went bolt threw and tubeless at the same time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    What are you using?
    Prior to the destickerization an such

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/d_buckley/7978616844/" title="New Hoops.jpg by D.Buckley, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8313/7978616844_04a290b90c_b.jpg" width="1024" height="683" alt="New Hoops.jpg"></a>

    Props to Dave at Redstone Cyclery for building up a kick ass wheelset, couldn't be happier with them.

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    I am running Easton EA90 wheels. The rear wheel is set up for a 12x135/142 but I have a QR conversion in there now. I have a bolt on conversion for the hub, I can try.

    When I yank on the rear wheel I can see the rear drops flex. Hopefully the bolt on conversion will ease the problem.

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    I can't feel any flex in my Nickel LT (142mm version)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I can't feel any flex in my Nickel LT (142mm version)

    I can see my drop outs flex. I think I need to give SC a call.

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    The Nickel Project Begins

    I just picked the small Santa Cruz Nickel frame from backcountry.com for $600.00. I scored on a new 2012 Fox Float 120 RLC FIT from Jenson.com for $349.00. The returned fork had a steerer tube cut to 170mm so I new my choices for short headtubes were limited. The SC Nickel's headtube lenght was 3.9". Any suggestions for a mixed tapered headset? I'm going 2x10!
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    I made a few upgrades to try and shed some weight.

    New wheels, brakes and pedals. Switched to tubeless in the rear.



    New levers, they feel so good.



    I went with the Ice-tech rotors



    Changed cassette from 11-34 to 11-36 to help with the climbs.



    New wheels were a bargain, $300 from competitive cyclists over thanksgiving.



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