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    Pike on a non-LT Tallboy?

    I just took a short ride on my friend's new Ibis Mojo 650B with the new Pike fork and was blown away by the combination of stiffness, plushness and control compared to the Talas Terralogic I am running now. Thinking I would rather just run the non-adjustable 140mm version if possible for the slight weight reduction and simplicity, but not sure how it would handle on normal XC trails. Plus the all-black would look badass The alternative would be to get the travel-adjust version and run it at 120mm for XC and save the 150mm for DH. Anyone running a Pike or anything else with 140mm+ travel? Yeah, I know I should just get an LT, but finances are tight and 95% of my riding is XC anyway.

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    I recently put a 140mm Reba on my gen 1 TallboyC.

    Climbs just as well. Little bit if extra travel on the DH was nice.

    Not sure I would push it to 150mm.
    I crashed hard enough on my Tallboy to break my leg,
    The carbon is way more durable than most people.

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    Pike on a non-LT Tallboy?

    Very intrested about that, hope to see some answers.

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    RESURECT- same prob. Gen1 TallboyC is begging for a PIKE but 140mm is the lowest they come at. A2C will be increased by 1" compared to my current FOX F29 @120mm.

    Will she still be able to climb? 1" seems like a lot on the front end.
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    1" is about 1 degree of head angle reduction. So the head angle would still be steeper than a lot of trail bikes these days. So, no big deal, but that doesn't mean you will like it more.
    I'm personally not a big fan of the slack angles these days but you do get used to it, and the extra travel benefit could out way any handling issues you would have (which would be minor, if any IMO).

    You might want to check if Santa Cruz would void the frame warranty with that size fork, if you care.

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    There are references to a 120mm Pike 29er fork in the product literature. You may just need an air shaft.

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    my Tallboy1 is going to the shop today for a 140mm Pike - coming off a Fox 34 140mm

    considering a internal lower headset cup

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    Pike on a non-LT Tallboy?-tb_pike.jpgI put a 140mm Pike on my TB a couple of weeks ago. I lowered the stem 20mm to compensate for the higher front end, and there is no noticeable difference in steering (from my old 120mm Talas) that I can detect. Climbs about the same, but I am crushing the downhills now. The Pike feels significantly stiffer and plusher than the Fox. I highly suggest the upgrade if you are looking into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danridesbikes View Post
    my Tallboy1 is going to the shop today for a 140mm Pike - coming off a Fox 34 140mm

    considering a internal lower headset cup
    The internal headset won't work with TB. There isn't enough room inside the head tube for a bearing unless you are running a non-tapered steerer (which isn't offered on the Pike).

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    of course, didn't really have my thinking head on

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    Re: Pike on a non-LT Tallboy?

    Based on what Sram tech told me today, the 120 and 130mm Pike air shafts should be available in a month or so.

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    I have wondered about this as well. Rockshox is making a 120mm version for Spec camber comp evo:Tested: Specialized Camber Expert Carbon Evo 29 | Flow Mountain Bike

    I wonder if they will come out with one? Heck, I'd even run 130mm...

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    FWIW.I am running an XFusion Trace 120mm on my TB and the increased stiffness vs the standard Fox Evolution 32mm is very noticeable. Bike steers and tracks much better and more precisely.
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    This is great! Came here to ask this very question. I would love a stiffer front end and a bit more plush coming down. 90% XC so to have the travel when I need it would be nice.
    I wouldn't mind the fronted coming up an inch either.

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    Noticing significantly fewer pedal strikes with 140mm as well. Seems a bit tippier at ultra-low speeds (like picking my way through rock gardens), but I'm happy with the trade-off.

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    Perfect. I am going to do the same when I build mine up now!

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    that seat tube looks very very slack. YOu don't have issues with that?

    edit: I mean- does it still pedal fine for you?
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    Once you move the saddle forward and tilt it down a bit, it is same-same. The higher BB is more noticeable, though. Fewer pedal strikes, but also a bit imprecise on slow, tight singletrack. Have gotten into the habit of dropping my post and inch or so in those situations, which seems to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanSuarez View Post
    that seat tube looks very very slack. YOu don't have issues with that?

    edit: I mean- does it still pedal fine for you?
    its only 20mm more travel than the standard specced 120mm,

    20mm is nothing,

    it pedals fine, this thing rips

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    Thanks! I gues there's nothing else to do now but CLOSE MY EYES and BITE THE BULLET!
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