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    Lets see those new Nomad Mk2's

    Ok i'll start the thread if no one else will!

    I may or may not end up with a new Nomad, but i really want to see 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A MAN CALLED HORSE
    Ok i'll start the thread if no one else will!

    I may or may not end up with a new Nomad, but i really want to see 'em.

    You beat me to it by a whisker! Taking my sexy beast out for its maiden voyage this very morning. Watch this space . . .

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    Here's mine:
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    Don't tell me it lives under a blue tarp - that is sad. Put that thing in your bed if you have to, but bring it inside!!
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    Oh for a moment there I thought it was a Santa Cruz locked up out side! Dude! It's not a Kona!!!! Put that thing next to your bed!! Realy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A MAN CALLED HORSE
    Ok i'll start the thread if no one else will!

    I may or may not end up with a new Nomad, but i really want to see 'em.
    Right man for the job
    Again AMCH, you'll see mine in your thread...:P

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    Quote Originally Posted by sirkrameroy
    Here's mine:
    Nice... Coil is sooo my taste lately:P
    If it's your first joplin, you'll move to a remote I bet
    Ah, and this is the clamp comparison:
    (original - crap
    bonty - cool
    repair kit - cool b/o color)
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    Please do yourself a favour and take a good look at this clamping unit - it is well scary and dangerous on a hc bike:/

    SORRY FOR THE OT but this is one scary item

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfreak
    Oh for a moment there I thought it was a Santa Cruz locked up out side! Dude! It's not a Kona!!!! Put that thing next to your bed!! Realy?
    Nah... she does fine outside. I live in California, not Maine. Next to my bed is my Serotta road bike.

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    Its Finally Arrived!!!

    Five months ago I was the very first person in Australia to lay down a deposit for a Nomad Mk 2. This is only the second large frame to be built up here, the first was
    the importer's as his personal ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1996cc
    Don't tell me it lives under a blue tarp - that is sad. Put that thing in your bed if you have to, but bring it inside!!
    This is where my Sanfa Cruzes live...
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    More of my sexy beast . . .

    Second ride today

    Frame - 09 Large Santa Cruz Nomad with white powder coat
    Rear shock - 09 FOX DHX 5
    Front shock/fork - 08 Fox 36 RC2 Van
    Handlebars - Eastern CNT carbon DH
    Stem - Raceface Atlas AM
    Headset - some Cane Creek adaptor thingy
    Grips - ODI
    Saddle - WTB Pure V Ti
    Seatpost - Maveric with remote height adjust leaver
    Front brake - 09 Elixir RC with 8 inch rotor
    Rear brake - 09 Elixir RC with 7 inch rotor
    Cranks - 08 XT with bash ring
    Chain - XTR
    Pedals - Crank Brothers Acid 1
    Front derailleur - XT
    Rear derailleur - SRAM XO
    Shifters - SRAM X9
    Cassette - XT 34-12
    Wheelset one- 09 Crossmax SX and Maxxis High Roller 2.35 tubeless tyres
    Wheelset two - De Bomb Dirt -jump with Maxxis Minion 2.7 front and 2.5 rear tyre
    Total weight - 32.5 pounds

    Heres few detail pix...
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    Just built this up;

    Only ridden it down the road so far but feels so nice to have a Nomad again

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    that white fork on white frame looks freakin sweet. im jealous.

    what does mk2 stand for? I've never really known

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    Anyone have a black frame with the white FLOAT 36? Ano or PC? That's what I'm thinking of going with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay
    Anyone have a black frame with the white FLOAT 36? Ano or PC? That's what I'm thinking of going with.
    I dont think there are any ano frames out yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner518
    that white fork on white frame looks freakin sweet. im jealous.

    what does mk2 stand for? I've never really known
    All the previos Nomads up to 08 are just refinements of the original design. The 09 (mark 2) version has been redesigned from the ground up.

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    This bike belongs to my internet-handicapped buddy. Size med, 29.75lbs. It's a pretty light bike considering the build. It has a complete XT build, Talas RC2, Hope Pro II with Stan's Flow rims. It would be really easy to take another lb off this rig!
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    is it just me or does the scale say 29.74??
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1996cc
    is it just me or does the scale say 29.74??
    Anything under 30 is pretty amazing but how strong are those Flow wheels???

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    omg, am really tempted to get the nomad over the heckler. but the price is so steep. thang, can only admire these work of art in pictures.

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    I wonder how will the XL look like. It is soo frustrating to see all those PC running when you've ordered your ano:/ Friend of mine just received a confirmation his red pc is ready for pickup:/
    At least there is no ano anywhere in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1996cc
    is it just me or does the scale say 29.74??
    ahaha



    These builds and weights are amazing. I am completely sold on one for this season, crazy to have such a capable bike so light.

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    bbbbking, that is one sweet looking bike. I have always been a fan of the white frames and the white forks really set the tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowpylon
    This bike belongs to my internet-handicapped buddy. Size med, 28.75lbs. It's a pretty light bike considering the build. It has a complete XT build, Talas RC2, Hope Pro II with Stan's Flow rims. It would be really easy to take another lb off this rig!
    Is that a painted frame thats been stripped and polished. If so how much work was needed. I'm liking that finish.
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    Hey sirkrameroy wicked paint job!! Did SC do it for you or is it an after market custom job. I love it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by other aardvark
    Five months ago I was the very first person in Australia to lay down a deposit for a Nomad Mk 2. This is only the second large frame to be built up here, the first was the importer's as his personal ride.
    Hot on your heels other aardvark, am putting a nomad build together here in Canada and then hauling it back to Oz at the end of the winter here!
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    Hello everyone, this is my first post on here but I thought I would show you all my 09 Nomad.

    Got the bike at the start of October (first one in the UK) and these pics were taken as the build was finished. I've subsequently changed the seat for a white Charge Spoon and ridden the bike a lot. Loving it.

















    Very, very pleased with the bike

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    Looks awesome matthew. Where abouts do you ride? Got to be Scotland/Wales with a build like that.

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    Looks Bloody awesome for sure, Nice spec..what size is that dude??, I am currently awaiting delivery of my white size med, been told end of Jan, cant wait after seeing your build!! :-))

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    Hey up Carrot,

    Cheers. I'm in South Yorkshire so mainly ride in the Peaks and Wharncliffe but do get to Wales from time to time and will be heading to Scotland soon.

    Also looking at racing some downhills this year.

    Matt

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    Hozemyster,

    Mine's a large. Feels good for me as an all round bike.

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    Awesome. I'm just across the Penines from you then. There's a couple of new developments near me that I need to ride this year, I'm a bit out of practice!

    Apart from a few minor personal tweaks, that bike's pretty much how I'd build up mine if I could afford one Looks fantastic

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    Cheers for that Matt, if you dont mind me asking what height are you? iam sweating a wee bit coz i ordered the med, I am 5' 10 and based my desicion on my old FSR stumpy med size which is actually slightly smaller top tube length than the cruz. Have weighed your build yet?

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    Carrot, that's cool. Might see you in the Peaks one day.

    Hozemyster, I'm 6'4" but like my bikes a little on the small and short side as I use them for XC and DH and all sorts in between so I went for the large rather than the XL. I reckon you'll probably be spot on with the medium by the sound of it.

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    Thats cool Matt, thanks for reply, if your ever up the 7 stanes and see a Nomad looking pretty much like yours... its prob me. Goodtimes Dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red PeeKay
    Hey sirkrameroy wicked paint job!! Did SC do it for you or is it an after market custom job. I love it!
    It's the standard red powdercoat. I'm stoked at how nice it turned out, although it's definitely the wrong color if you don't want to attract any attention!

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    Great looking bikes, all. This has probably been covered elsewhere, so apologies if I missed it, but have any of you owned the first generation Nomad, too? Can you give your impressions on the differences in the bike's handling, fit, capabilities, etc? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffylooking
    Great looking bikes, all. This has probably been covered elsewhere, so apologies if I missed it, but have any of you owned the first generation Nomad, too? Can you give your impressions on the differences in the bike's handling, fit, capabilities, etc? Thanks.
    I could if mine would ever arrive. Ordered in November, told Before christmas, if not by January 15 tops. Called today, Black and White available Now, Red 2 MORE WEEKS!. I was 2 more weeks on my LT2 for 3 months, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer33x
    I could if mine would ever arrive. Ordered in November, told Before christmas, if not by January 15 tops. Called today, Black and White available Now, Red 2 MORE WEEKS!. I was 2 more weeks on my LT2 for 3 months, lol.
    Good things come to those who wait.

    Looking forward to the comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer33x
    I could if mine would ever arrive. Ordered in November, told Before christmas, if not by January 15 tops. Called today, Black and White available Now, Red 2 MORE WEEKS!. I was 2 more weeks on my LT2 for 3 months, lol.
    Sucks. My med red 09 shows up Fri according to UPS.

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    Thank you UPS. Here's a before shot. I'll post others shortly.


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    Frame - 09 Medium Santa Cruz Nomad with red powder coat
    Rear shock - 09 RS Vivid 5.1 (500# spiting)
    Front shock/fork - 09 Fox 36 RC2 Van 1.5
    Handlebars - Syncros 7075 "Bulk"
    Stem - Syncros AM 1.5
    Headset - Cane Creek Double X
    Grips - ODI x-treme
    Saddle - WTB Rocket V Team
    Seatpost - Crank Bros Joplin R
    Front brake - 09 Magura Louise BAT Carbon with 8 venti inch rotor
    Rear brake - 09 Magura Louise BAT Carbon with 7 venti inch rotor
    Cranks - 07 XT with e13 bash guard
    Chain - SRAM 991 cross-step
    Pedals - Speedplay Drillium
    Front derailleur - 07 XT
    Rear derailleur - 08 XTR Shadow
    Shifters - 08 XTR rapid fire
    Cassette - XT 34-11
    Wheelset - DT Swiss 204s, 5.1d rims (Maxxis High Roller 2.35 back, Kenda Nevegal 2.35 front)
    Total weight - ~32.5 pounds


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    Beautifull brickbrick!!!
    Very simmilar to my future build.
    One thing though - my XL anodized LT2 with a 1.125 36Talas and lighter wheels, also coil and joplin Remote is almost half a pound heavier then your Nomad that has a heavier frame:/ ??
    Show us a pic on a scale bro!!

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    The nomad is definitely one of the best looking bikes coming from santa cruz. Now if I could only get a ride on one!

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    good luck with that vivid. had a buncha time on one and it was complete garbage.
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    Mine:

    • Santa Cruz Nomad '09 + Fox DHX 5.0 Air
    • Fox 36 Float RC2 '09
    • Cranks Shimano XTR
    • Front Derraileur Desviador frente Shimano XTR
    • Rear Derraileur SRAM X.0 Carbon Cage
    • Shifters Sram X.0
    • Brakes Formula The One
    • Saddle WTB Pure V
    • Seatpost Crank Brothers Acid 2
    • Cassette Shimano XTR 11-32
    • Headset Chris King Devolution
    • Chain Shimano XTR
    • Handlbar Easton Monkeylite XC CNT
    • Stem Syncros 70mm
    • Wheels Mavic CrossMax SX '09
    • Tires Maxxis Minion F + High Roller 2.35"
    • Pedals Crank Brothers Acid 2 Black/Carbon
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    Great looking bike.

    What was your final build weight?

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    PC vs Anodised

    Quote Originally Posted by other aardvark
    Five months ago I was the very first person in Australia to lay down a deposit for a Nomad Mk 2. This is only the second large frame to be built up here, the first was the importer's as his personal ride.
    Hey Other Aardvark, notice you went the white powder coat. I am split between the white powder coat and the slate anodised (an extra $180Ca). Am told the anodised is a lot more hardy. Any reason you went the white pc vs anodised other than looks?? I would prefer to go the white as my componentry will match (bit of a bling factor there). Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red PeeKay
    Hey Other Aardvark, notice you went the white powder coat. I am split between the white powder coat and the slate anodised (an extra $180Ca). Am told the anodised is a lot more hardy. Any reason you went the white pc vs anodised other than looks?? I would prefer to go the white as my componentry will match (bit of a bling factor there). Thanks
    White was because I couldn't get ano slate. Out of the available powder coats red would of been my first choose but the importer nabbed that one for himself. So white it is.

    What build will you be running???

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    Nomad 09

    Heres my new toy, got her built up over xmas and only got chance to ride her once, but boy does she ride sweet! I'm really happy, can't belive how easy she flys thru the air...really well balanced, just takes off so well. But then compared to my 06 575 anything is easier to get a bunny hop out of!
    weight 30.6lbs, should shave a bit more off when i change the rear Minion for an Advantage...
    Plan to use for heavy duty trail riding and pedaling back up for more runs...maybe some uplift days too, if it performs as well as im expecting i might be selling the Morewood Izumu soon....
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    Quote Originally Posted by other aardvark
    White was because I couldn't get ano slate. Out of the available powder coats red would of been my first choose but the importer nabbed that one for himself. So white it is.

    What build will you be running???
    Am basing my build around the X9 1.5 All mountain kit with the following mods:
    totem solo air shock
    fox dhx 5 coil
    mavic crossmax dx rims
    22-32 with bash ring
    and probably x.o front and rear der (with the med cage)

    The rest I will negotiate with my tech (also just found out the ano won't be avail till april at best, so going the white as have to be back in Oz by early April)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red PeeKay
    Am basing my build around the X9 1.5 All mountain kit with the following mods:
    totem solo air shock
    fox dhx 5 coil
    mavic crossmax dx rims
    22-32 with bash ring
    and probably x.o front and rear der (with the med cage)

    The rest I will negotiate with my tech (also just found out the ano won't be avail till april at best, so going the white as have to be back in Oz by early April)
    I will be running a 180mm Domain for a week or two due to my 36 Van's damping cartridge going south ( possibly on holiday at Bondi beech). Its not a very good fork but Im keen to see how the Nomad goes with a 66 degree head angle.

    Just a thought re. derailers, I think XO and XTR derailers are kind of overrated. I must admit that springing for my Mavic SX wheelset is the best investment I have made in a while. Sub 2kg super stiff/strong wheelset .


    A XO derailer which costs twice as much as an X9, saves a mere 20 gram and can be ripped off by a common stick leaves me feeling kinda flat . . .

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    Build up a buddies Nomad last night. Illl try to get some pics, I forgot all about that.

    Large red Frame
    08 Fox 36 Float R
    DHX5 Coil w/450# spring
    XTR 970 Cranks
    XTR 970 Shifters
    XTR 970 Front Derailleur
    XTR 970 Shadow Rear
    XTR 970 11-34 cassette
    Jagwire Cables & housing
    Mavic XL wheels
    Juicy Carbon Brakes - 185/160
    Selle Italia Flite Saddle
    Race face Next SL Seatpost
    Race Face Next Bars
    Titec Pluto 90mm Stem
    Cane Creek Double Xc Flush Headset (1.5-1 1/8)
    XTR 970 Pedals

    29lb 8 oz

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    Quote Originally Posted by other aardvark
    I will be running a 180mm Domain for a week or two due to my 36 Van's damping cartridge going south ( possibly on holiday at Bondi beech). Its not a very good fork but Im keen to see how the Nomad goes with a 66 degree head angle.

    Just a thought re. derailers, I think XO and XTR derailers are kind of overrated. I must admit that springing for my Mavic SX wheelset is the best investment I have made in a while. Sub 2kg super stiff/strong wheelset .


    A XO derailer which costs twice as much as an X9, saves a mere 20 gram and can be ripped off by a common stick leaves me feeling kinda flat . . .
    I'm still weighing up my options re: the derailleur, will probably stick to the x9. Also forgot to mention am upping the brakes to 208mm rotors.

    Was the Van new?? Hope its a warranty job then!! How was the bike riding??
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    Money Down!

    Just laid down some hard earned readies on a white pc '09 Nomad . Delivery time eta 2 weeks. Specs (some items still subject to negotiation):
    Fork/Travel Totem Solo Air 1.5 180mm
    Rear Shock / Travel Fox DHX 5 Coil 160mm
    Brakes Avid Elixir CR Carbon (208mm rotors)
    Brake Levers Avid Elixir CR Carbon
    Cranks Shimano SLX with bash ring
    Front Derailleur Shimano XT
    Rear Derailleur SRAM X9
    Wheel Set Mavic Crossmax SX
    Handlebar Easton EA70 Low, 31.8
    Chain SRAM PC 991
    Bottom Bracket Shimano SLX
    Saddle WTB Pure V
    Seat Post Thomson
    Shifters SRAM X9 Trigger
    Stem Syncros 1.5"
    Headset Cane Creek Double X 1.5
    Freewheel / Cassette SRAM PG 980 11-34
    Grips Lizard Skins Peaty grip Lock On
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red PeeKay
    I'm still weighing up my options re: the derailleur, will probably stick to the x9. Also forgot to mention am upping the brakes to 208mm rotors.

    Was the Van new?? Hope its a warranty job then!! How was the bike riding??
    Before the 36 went bung I was pretty impressed with my sexy beast's single track ability. If there is room to lay it down in the corners my Nomad railed like a moto. Mid ride the fork started loosing rebound and compression damping and my bike started steering like a drunken gazelle (hyperactive and erratic).

    The forks not new but the cartridge is. I upgraded from a "R" cartridge to a "RC2" about 4 months ago.

    Re brakes, i will be very interested to here how your XTR brakes go on those big rotors. I have ridden 07 XTR brakes on 180 rotors and they had infinite modulation but no bite. But I weigh 105kg so Im pretty good at cooking brakes.

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    Another Nomad for the collection-
    Santa Cruz Nomad '09 medium + Fox DHX 5.0 Air
    • Fox 36 Talas RC2
    • Cranks stylo
    • Front Derraileur Desviador frente Shimano XT
    • Rear Derraileur SRAM X.9
    • Shifters Sram X.9
    • Brakes Magura Louise
    • Saddle Terry Fly Ti
    • Seatpost Gravity Dpopper Turbo
    • Cassette Shimano XT
    • Headset FSA Orbit MX Pro
    • Chain Shimano XT
    • Handlbar Chromag Fubar 30"
    • Stem Thomson 50mm
    • Wheels Mavic CrossMax SX and Chris king/ Stan's Flow
    • Tires Maxxis Advantage 2.4
    • Pedals kona
    • Grips odi
    Weight 32.5 lbs w/pedals with heavy wheels
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    My sexy beast showing off some long legs . . .

    Heres some pix of my sexy beast with a180mm travel RS Domain fork. Unfortunately my 36 Vans are awaiting repair but luckily I had the Domains lying around.

    The longer fork makes climbing a bit of a chore but descending on bermed trails was big fun. On choppy trails the Domains are no match for my Vans or the Nomads rear suspension for that matter.

    When is Fox going to make a 180 travel Talas fork??? I will be first in line . . .
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    Other aardvark, is that a large or XL frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer33x
    Other aardvark, is that a large or XL frame?
    LARGE

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    Damn I really want to see an X-LARGE. Hopefully Mine comes in this week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer33x
    Damn I really want to see an X-LARGE. Hopefully Mine comes in this week!
    It seems a bit of a shame that you are selling your BLT

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    Yes it is, but Im just to tall for it. On steep climbs my Center of gravity ends up behind the rear wheel, severely limiting climbing efficiency. Once it was all calc'ed out it was pretty obvious. My old nomad was really teetering on the line as well, and I never knew how close it was, the new Nomad is slightly better, on paper, we shall see. Otherwise Ill be hunting down another XL 06-07 Frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer33x
    Yes it is, but Im just to tall for it. On steep climbs my Center of gravity ends up behind the rear wheel, severely limiting climbing efficiency. Once it was all calc'ed out it was pretty obvious. My old nomad was really teetering on the line as well, and I never knew how close it was, the new Nomad is slightly better, on paper, we shall see. Otherwise Ill be hunting down another XL 06-07 Frame.
    How tall are you????!!! Hopefully the slightly longer top tube of the new Nomad will work for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by other aardvark
    How tall are you????!!! Hopefully the slightly longer top tube of the new Nomad will work for you.
    Im 6'7". The top tube and the longer chainstays should support it better. Hopefully Ill find out soon.

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    for you guys on med frames, how tall are you?

    the new Nomad sizing is weird to me...I typically like 23" TT's but I recall trying a large 08 and it felt good.

    wonder if I would fit on a med 09 (I'm 5'10")

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    I am 6 feet or 183cm tall with very long legs and arms but with a normal torso and am going to buy a nomad as soon as I can work out weather to go for a size Large or XL, I am going to run a 50mm stem and do everything form cross country to DH obviously with a wheel change.

    I normally buy size Large frames but going of the wheelbase the nomad sizes small compared to other brands like the giant reign/reign x, trek remedy, specialized enduros, intense slopestyles and most other comparable bikes.

    I am on a med sx trail and the size large nomad wheelbase is shorter than the med sx trail. I cannot ride a nomad because of where I live so I will have to make the decision based on geometry and peoples advice.

    Does anyone have any opinions or advice to offer me?

    Thank you for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supros88
    I am 6 feet or 183cm tall with very long legs and arms but with a normal torso and am going to buy a nomad as soon as I can work out weather to go for a size Large or XL, I am going to run a 50mm stem and do everything form cross country to DH obviously with a wheel change.
    I'm 6'2' and have a large coming. Also have pretty long arms legs etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red PeeKay
    I'm 6'2' and have a large coming. Also have pretty long arms legs etc.
    I'm about the same but I have slightly shorter legs and a long/tall torso/arms so I have to ride an XL. The large is way to short in the top tube for me.

    I am actually slightly concerned with the XL on the Nomad because it's longer than the Heckler... don't really know why the Heckler and Nomad would have different effective top tube lengths since they are, IMO, built for the same purpose but the Nomad is about 1/2" longer. My S-works enduro is about the same and it has always felt comfortable but slightly clunky vs. the perfect set-up of the Heckler. Changing stem lengths isn't the same as having a different top tube length.
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    Trojan, don't call me sad, but are those photos taken on Clent Hills???!? Just looks very familiar as i've been riding there with various bikes since 1986!! I used to have a black mk1 Nomad that was re-pc'd to white. The Nomad's been sold now and i'm now riding a white Heckler which is better suited to what i generally do. Perhaps you could pm me sometime for a meet up!

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    Thanks for the info, I am still undersided the nomads run short in the Large and just a little longer in the XL than most frames that I have ridden.

    Does anyone know what the wheelbase difference would be for a 1 degree change in head angle using a 545mm fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supros88
    Thanks for the info, I am still undersided the nomads run short in the Large and just a little longer in the XL than most frames that I have ridden.

    Does anyone know what the wheelbase difference would be for a 1 degree change in head angle using a 545mm fork?
    if you change the head angle by 1 degree would lengthen your wheelbase by approximately half an inch.

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    Hey all,

    My headset came in so I could finally get this steed built:

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    Size Large, just under 30lbs for a true all mountain setup... including aluminum bars and a Joplin post! still need to chop the steerer...

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    one more shot taken with my nicer camera

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    Joplin condom?

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    I like the nude look. The "Joplin condom" probably isnt a bad idea. My Maverick version gets stick fairly frequently.

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    Thanks aardvark. The Joplin condom is just a road tube and some tie wraps... it has worked well for all of last season. The only drawback is the vaccuum effect when you slam the post. Probably wouldn't work well for the remote versions where you have to let it spring back unassisted.

    Quote Originally Posted by other aardvark
    I like the nude look. The "Joplin condom" probably isnt a bad idea. My Maverick version gets stick fairly frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philshep
    Thanks aardvark. The Joplin condom is just a road tube and some tie wraps... it has worked well for all of last season. The only drawback is the vaccuum effect when you slam the post. Probably wouldn't work well for the remote versions where you have to let it spring back unassisted.
    yeah. I run a remote. I have some old Lizard skins for forks lying around so I will give it a go. Re. "nude" look, how much does the paint weigh?

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    I forgot to weigh it before the strip! :-/

    Would have liked to have known...

    Quote Originally Posted by other aardvark
    yeah. I run a remote. I have some old Lizard skins for forks lying around so I will give it a go. Re. "nude" look, how much does the paint weigh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by philshep
    I forgot to weigh it before the strip! :-/

    Would have liked to have known...
    Couldn't be that much, not "lead" based paints anymore!! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by other aardvark
    yeah. I run a remote. I have some old Lizard skins for forks lying around so I will give it a go. Re. "nude" look, how much does the paint weigh?

    PS: My buddy got a small and is also doing the 'nude' look. He's spent lots of time polishing it up to get rid of any minutia. Mine has little scratches from the stock tubing if you look at it really closely. He wet sanded it down and went through a more exhaustive polishing process. It looks exactly like the previous gen polished ones! I'll post some pics once he gets it together.
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    OUT FOR DELIVERY!
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    Out of interest does anyone know what size frame Kirt Vories rides, he is 6" so I would be thinking he would ride a Medium or a Large, does anyone know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supros88
    Out of interest does anyone know what size frame Kirt Vories rides, he is 6" so I would be thinking he would ride a Medium or a Large, does anyone know?
    WOW, a 6 inch tall professional bicycle racer? I've never heard of that!!! I would imagine Kirt to be 6 feet at least.
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by supros88
    Out of interest does anyone know what size frame Kirt Vories rides, he is 6" so I would be thinking he would ride a Medium or a Large, does anyone know?

    XXXS ????? Munchkin size!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by supros88
    Out of interest does anyone know what size frame Kirt Vories rides, he is 6" so I would be thinking he would ride a Medium or a Large, does anyone know?
    Funny, I just watched NWD9 and seeing him shred on his Nomad was unbelievable. a 360 over a gap jump? WTF

    I would have to say he would ride a medium just for the flickability and his riding style. I just jumped from Medium ('06 Nomad) to Large ('09 Nomad) and I'm 6' with a 'normal' leg to torso ratio.

    It fits pretty good; it has a 1" longer TT and 1" longer wheelbase. Plus all the angle changes from '06 to '09. Looking forward hitting the trail...
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    Quote Originally Posted by philshep
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    Hi Phil what bash gaurd is that you have on your xtr cranks, Saint?

    Im having a hard time trying to find one on the sites and supplier.

    Elliott.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott_MBR
    Hi Phil what bash gaurd is that you have on your xtr cranks, Saint?

    Im having a hard time trying to find one on the sites and supplier.

    Elliott.
    Elliott,

    It's a Saint, previous gen, not the new '09 one. A little bit of dremeling required to get it behind the XTR crank arm, but it's a light (and cheap) solution. Plus it looks pretty sweet too.

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    Kirt rocks a Large Nomad

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer33x
    OUT FOR DELIVERY!
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    Did you get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philshep
    I just jumped from Medium ('06 Nomad) to Large ('09 Nomad) and I'm 6' with a 'normal' leg to torso ratio.

    It fits pretty good; it has a 1" longer TT and 1" longer wheelbase. Plus all the angle changes from '06 to '09. Looking forward hitting the trail...
    How do you find the handling, ride etc when comparing the two there Phil?? Interested to hear your feedback. I'm 6'2" with probably longer arms and legs, but have a large on order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acadian
    Kirt rocks a Large Nomad
    Yeah, but Kirt's in a way different league to me!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red PeeKay
    Yeah, but Kirt's in a way different league to me!!
    Kirt's an entirely different species to me.

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    Can't really say too much yet because I haven't even got it out on the trails!

    But it definitely feels different than my '06 Nomad. The '06 was very nimble and agile underneath me. The 1" longer wheelbase on the large is really noticeable, as is the steeper seat angle. We have a set of stairs in the LBS we ride down, and it definitely felt different than my old one. Felt more 'forward' on the bike.

    Mind you, on my '06, I had the saddle all the way back on the rails with a setback post. With the new setup, my saddle is mid way on the rails. Plumb line test was perfect, so it should make for a much more efficient machine. With the previous setup I was more of a pedal masher.

    With the 90mm stem it definitely feels more stretched out than the previous one, but I guess I'll only really know when I hit the trail. I say worst case scenario I may go down to a 70mm.

    At 6'2, providing you're pretty even lower to upper body, you should be fine with a large if you prefer a medium to tight cockpit rather than stretched out...

    Will give a more detailed update once I get out on it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simonns
    Did you get it?
    I did! Actually I got it and a case of the stomache flu as well. bad enough I didnt even touch the frame till this morning. Here is a quick shot in the mess tonite. Ill take it for a spin tomorrow then hopefully really beat on it on Sunday.

    29.5 pounds. XL Nomad Frame was 7lb 6 oz. Thats 0.5 lb heavier than the XL Anno BLT2 Frame.

    I gained .5 lb in the frame and .5 in a 2 step Lyrik, then a 3 oz in a headset and stem for the 1.5 fork.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer33x
    I did! Actually I got it and a case of the stomache flu as well. bad enough I didnt even touch the frame till this morning. Here is a quick shot in the mess tonite. Ill take it for a spin tomorrow then hopefully really beat on it on Sunday.

    29.5 pounds. XL Nomad Frame was 7lb 6 oz. Thats 0.5 lb heavier than the XL Anno BLT2 Frame.

    I gained .5 lb in the frame and .5 in a 2 step Lyrik, then a 3 oz in a headset and stem for the 1.5 fork.
    Mate, its under 30lbs, so that's not too shabby at all!! Great colour! Hope you dust the bug!
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    First Ride Impressions:

    This bike is Great. It pedals as good as the LT2 on the flats, and even seems to roll better, mostly due to it eating all the little chatter you feel on the blur.

    The Monarch is great. It is super plush fully open, pedals very well on Mid and standing climbs on Full only netted 1/4" of bob on a 1 mile rough fireroad climb.

    It doesnt quite turn as well as the LT2. My measured Headtube angle was 66* vs the LT2 @ 68* (with 160mm lyrik). Hopefully a shorter headset will get me back to 67* and quicken it up just a hair. One note, the new generation still turns better than the 07 at 67*. It is more stable and alot smoother, braking traction is greatly improved, even with nearly worn out Nevegals.

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    I agree with you on the rear deraileurs

    Quote Originally Posted by other aardvark
    I will be running a 180mm Domain for a week or two due to my 36 Van's damping cartridge going south ( possibly on holiday at Bondi beech). Its not a very good fork but Im keen to see how the Nomad goes with a 66 degree head angle.

    Just a thought re. derailers, I think XO and XTR derailers are kind of overrated. I must admit that springing for my Mavic SX wheelset is the best investment I have made in a while. Sub 2kg super stiff/strong wheelset .


    A XO derailer which costs twice as much as an X9, saves a mere 20 gram and can be ripped off by a common stick leaves me feeling kinda flat . . .
    The only XTR deraileur I ever purchased lasted about two weeks. I did a little bunny hop over a root and landed on a stick throwing it into the chain and deraileur and the deraileur went into many pieces all over the trail. Pure expensive crap. I've had many XT deraileurs over the years and never had one break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67degrees
    The only XTR deraileur I ever purchased lasted about two weeks. I did a little bunny hop over a root and I landed on a stick throwing it into the chain and deraieur and the deraileur went into many pieces all over the trail. Pure expensiver crap. I've hand many XT deraileurs over the years and never had one break.
    Re XT deraileurs, I to have never broken one but i did end up twisting two of the 06~07 models. As I was getting a bit over shelling out for for a mundane bike part I went a LX. A few years,a few stick attacks and a few bikes latter Im still using this LX deraileur on my BLT2. Im not sure but maybe the old LX resists being twisted out of wack due to the steel rear plate in the parallelogram.

    The absolute durability winner of any deraileur I have ever owned is an 1996 short cage XTR. This deraileur has been on so many bikes and it was only 9 speed that put it out of action only to be dragged back from retirement when I learned how crap 9 speed was (in the early days). It now recides on my renovators delight, a 99 GT STS theroplastic carbon fibor wunder bike. The STS is ... another story...

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