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    Beautiful is it cf

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    wow! more than beautiful

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    Quote Originally Posted by gexas View Post
    Beautiful is it cf
    no, it's AL (2011 frame, no tapered headset)

    here are some more pics
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k8g14pxo2og8cqt/bvV5oNEnnh

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    Lets see those LT2s-imageuploadedbytapatalk1344938535.498271.jpg

    My old BLT2. Had to let her go for my TALLBOY.

    Still a beautiful beast of a bike!

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    nice bike. white color goes well with the frame

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    Going to work



    and some from my vacations

    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/47575051" width="790" height="450" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/47575051">Nora trail</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1579498">Surfas</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/51509764" width="500" height="281" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe>

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    My LT2.II Works blue powder coat with raw triangle and 1st gen decal kit/blur, Answer DH/50 stem with carbon 780 bar

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    just completed a used blt frameLets see those LT2s-uploadfromtaptalk1352069348500.jpgLets see those LT2s-uploadfromtaptalk1352069365779.jpgLets see those LT2s-uploadfromtaptalk1352069395047.jpgLets see those LT2s-uploadfromtaptalk1352069421670.jpgLets see those LT2s-uploadfromtaptalk1352069453820.jpg

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    #LT2allday #Vividair
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    <a href="http://s630.beta.photobucket.com/user/ibanezplayer470/library/" target="_blank"><img src="http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu24/ibanezplayer470/CB3810F5-810C-457B-A058-16BEBF08A644-56215-00003EE07A04E8E3.jpg" border="0"/></a>

    Had shoulder surgery a couple days before I got this shock, so I havent had a chance to ride this setup yet. With that said, here are a few riding photos on my old 32 talas/rp23 setup:

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    Any of you LTII riders consider running the NEW XX1 transmission by SRAM?

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    No desire, as my 2x10 XT drive train is working perfectly and gives me more range.

    But even if I did want it, it's terribly expensive:

    RD - $305
    Cassette - $400
    Crank (if you get it) - $285
    Chain - $58
    Chainguide & Bash - $100 - $150

    I'd rather spend my money on another complete bike, or some carbon Enve wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDSKOOLWAGON View Post
    Any of you LTII riders consider running the NEW XX1 transmission by SRAM?
    I'm still having trouble giving up mt 3x setup!

    I don't see a 1x11 working well for me . . . . 2x10, probably would be okay. But not a 1x
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    This is how my beauty looked two months before was sold.

    Works Components -1deg headset and wider handlebars made huge difference but still was not enough mountain bike for me. Bike was still nervous on steep ascents (front wheel) and descents to my taste. Eventually decided to go NOMAD way.

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    sweet bike. beautiful pic. to.

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    very nice vid/edit Surfas, thanks for sharing!

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    here is my lt2 - it's now over 5 months i ride it and this bike is more than cream..
    It is really easy to drive and brings confidence. Notubes wheels with ZTR Arch are also awesome, very light because of the combo tubeless with tubetype tyres.





    And i love also my cockpit with a raceface blue anodised handlebar in 720mn, SRAM X9 shifters and shimano XT brakes


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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    No desire, as my 2x10 XT drive train is working perfectly and gives me more range.

    But even if I did want it, it's terribly expensive:

    RD - $305
    Cassette - $400
    Crank (if you get it) - $285
    Chain - $58
    Chainguide & Bash - $100 - $150

    I'd rather spend my money on another complete bike, or some carbon Enve wheels.
    I hear ya, sounds like too many pricey ingredients in order to make it happen. I could eliminate the cranks and bash, but in addition would still need a new free hub from Hadley.

    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    I'm still having trouble giving up mt 3x setup!

    I don't see a 1x11 working well for me . . . . 2x10, probably would be okay. But not a 1x
    ... at this point I may consider a 1 x 10, at the least would be able to take advantage of that 36 cog; extra gear to climb with!

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    Hi to all,

    This is my Blur LT 2012 from Spain




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    nice

    nice iron ! what size fork 150 ? also tapered tube ?

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    Thanks, The fork is a 2011 Talas 120-150, 1 1/8, no tapered

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    New upgrades still coming.....

    ok had the bike for a year and a half and it is awesome. Here is round three I guess of upgrades. somethings were wearing out and somethings i found a decent deal on and decided to go for it.
    1. new Sette AMP seat...old one was a little heavy and wearing out
    2. new Hayes stroker brakes...much better than the old mechanicals that would freeze up in some of the winter races i've been in. Can you say one finger braking that will throw you over the handle bars.
    3. New Ritchey pro handle bar. about 1.5 inches wider than handle bar i took off the GT. the wider bar makes going into turns and coming out a lot easier because of the leverage. much nicer setup and i should have ditched the old bar a long time ago
    4. ODI grips....great grip and i always feel in control. i had some grips that were the ergo kind that were built for comfort but it was hard to brake and keep a solid grip on the handle bar when hitting bumping stuff or going into and out of turns.
    5. dumped the old 3x9 and went with a MRP 1x chainguide and 1x 9 setup. looks a lot cleaner and i can do everything i need with the 1x9 setup.
    6. switched out the 2.35 kendas up front and now run 2.10. feels a little thin but when i run at 34 psi i think the tire actually flattens out to a 2.20 so a drop in traction hasn't been noted at all. bike feels a little lighter up front to.

    After all these changes the bike lost 2 lbs and comes in at 26.5 according to the scale at my lbs.





    Edit-i've done a few upgrades in the year i've had the bike.

    wheels- chunked the old crossride wheel and stock gt wheel on the front for some new crossmax ST's. They are awesome!!! through on some 2.35 kendas up front and a 2.1 on the back. has some serious traction but with ust tires they are a little on the heavy side. in fact after i went tubeless and with these new wheels i actually had the bike still weighing in at 30lbs which is the same as before.

    needle bearings on the rear shock-seem to help a lot in making the compression of shock smoother. Had to let some air out of the shock because of reduced friction

    new picture. a little dirty because it just wrapped up a 20 miler on a beautiful north ga day.






    [QUOTE=gexas;8872463]Just finished my '09 BLT2. I made the move from a GT avalanche ht to the blur. This is pretty much my last bike at least that is what I told the wife to justify spending every dime of Christmas money, birthday, change from the laundry,etc. that I had scrimped over the last year. I was trying to do this build on a shoe string budget but found very quickly that was difficult to do when the GT had different seat tube sizes, different crank sizes and different front derailleur tube sizes. These things caught me by surprise as I started pulling things off the GT and putting them onto the Blur. I also realized that my Reba shock( i love this thing) was not enough travel to even come close to what the blur needed to fully maximize the bike's potential. Even pulling the spacers out of the reba to give it potentially 120 mm of travel wouldn't have been enough. Lots of lessons learned and the number one lesson was that there are a lot of great people on this site ready to help. thanks everyone. In case anyone is interested I'll put the cost of items down just for reference in the event anyone else ventures down my path.

    Frame = 2009 BLT2 large-aluminum(850 w/out shipping- bought on that auction site had a crank brothers headset already in it. i had to buy a crown race for it from crank brothers - 9 bucks)
    Fork = 2011 Revelation RLT with 150 mm of travel (350 w/out shipping)
    Front derailleur = shimano SL (50 bucks. Had to buy this as the tube was bigger on the blur than what my GT was)
    Rear derailleur = SRAM X9 (brought over from GT)
    Shifters= Sram X9 (brought over from the GT)
    Crank set = Deore and Shimano BB(120 bucks. I had to get a new BB as the GT would not fit. REI had a deal where you could get both the BB, cranks and new front cassette all together for 120)
    Brakes = BB7 (brought over from the GT)
    Seatpost= Forte (20 bucks. Had to buy this brand new as the one on the GT was a smaller tube)
    Rear shock = Fox RP23 (came with frame)
    Shifter and brake cables= 30 bucks(had to buy all new stuff since the runs were longer on this bike than what was on the GT. Also with the extra travel in the front fork i also had to get a new front brake cable)
    Labor=20 bucks(the only thing i had someone do is to install and adjust the front and rear derailleur since I didn't want to spend a sat. dialing all this in myself..best 20 bucks I ever spent)
    Chain = 20 bucks (had to get a new one since i had a new front cassette and it was well worn)
    i just got back from a ride so she's a little dirty. i put some blue painters tape on the rear triangle to offer a little protection from chain slap until I can find the that came with the frame.

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    I just picked up a new 2012 Blur LT2 from Santa Cruz's sale, and I'm starting to look at parts for my build. Is there a budget headset option I can go with? Cane Creek 10 or 40?

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    I'd recommend the Cane Creek 40:

    Universal Cycles -- Cane Creek 40 ZS44/EC49 Tapered Headset - Fits 1 1/8" Forks

    You can also buy separate uppers and lowers depending on what fork you want to run. The lowers are actually exactly the same on both sizes, but the bearing is different.

    Upper: Universal Cycles -- Cane Creek 40-Series ZS44 Upper Assembly

    Lower for 1 1/8": Universal Cycles -- Cane Creek 40 EC49 1 1/8" Lower Assembly

    Lower for 1.5": Universal Cycles -- Cane Creek 40 EC49 1.5" Lower Assembly
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    I want to run a fork with a tapered steerer... it doesn't look like any of the headsets (or lowers) will work with that, will they?

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    you buy the 1.5 lower and the 1 1/8 upper

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    OK, thanks guys. I guess I can use the Cane Creek 10 version of those parts too?

    I'm set on all the other parts, but damn, the headset and BB always get me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek7000rider View Post
    <a href="http://s630.beta.photobucket.com/user/ibanezplayer470/library/" target="_blank"><img src="http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu24/ibanezplayer470/CB3810F5-810C-457B-A058-16BEBF08A644-56215-00003EE07A04E8E3.jpg" border="0"/></a>
    7000rider, is that the triple ring XTR crank set? I want to run that setup; single ring XTR cranks with XTR shadow plus der. and cassette...

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    With mud



    <iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/55592816?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0&amp;b adge=0&amp;color=ffffff" width="610" height="340" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen></iframe> <p><a href="http://vimeo.com/55592816">Loamy Ride</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user1579498">Surfas</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

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    Nice vid

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    I just purchased an AL BLT2.2 from the SC sale. Is anyone running this frame with a Fox 36?

    If I'm doing the math correctly, a 36 Float has a 545 axle to crown length. If I were to space it down to 140mm, that should give me an atc of 525mm. SC lists the frame geo spec'd to a atc of 529mm which is pretty darn close. Anyone else running this setup?

    If so, can you post pictures?

    Thank you!

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    Just keep it as 160mm, works well. I did lower it first to 140 mm, but then noticed that it is waste of good travel Also you gain with slacker head angle and higher BB. If I would have newer frame, I would put 150 mm 36 float and 1,5 deg headset which would be optimal.

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    I am

    I have had mine @ 160 150 and 140. 150 was best by far. My pics are in this thread somewhere.

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    Ok, good to know, will lower it also to 150 when next maintenance. Probably handling is better with lower BB. Fox 34 / 160mm would be also good choice for LT2 since its A-C is 7(?)mm lower than 36s at 160mm.

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    2012 LTc, Float 36 RLC set at 150 mm, E-13 XCX ST en route.



    Will likely throw in an offset bushing for giggles.

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    got my blur V5 out on the trail over the weekend; fun chasing a Giant Glory down the new line..
    JP with Bh0 1 - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDSKOOLWAGON View Post
    got my blur V5 out on the trail over the weekend; fun chasing a Giant Glory down the new line..
    JP with Bh0 1 - YouTube
    Awesome riding. Can we get the specs on the Blur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoWal_MTBer View Post
    Awesome riding. Can we get the specs on the Blur?
    Pretty standard; but for 2013, I had my old transmission replaced with full JDM spec type-R components along with some new stopping power via Codes.






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    Great video! That is a killer trail...and the bike isn't bad either. What are your thoughts on the Blur so far?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    Great video! That is a killer trail...and the bike isn't bad either. What are your thoughts on the Blur so far?
    Thanks Brewing, I am biased towards SC frames especially the Blur. I purchased the bike used in the Spring of 2010. Since then, it has gone through many changes. In it's current setup, it is by far the most dialed it's ever been; IMO, the best AM/FR/XC bike out there. I DH the sheeeeit out of mine too!

    cheers

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    my LTc enjoying 70 degree temps yesterday in central TX. My new (couple months old) Flow wheelset laced to CKs are freakin stout


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    Been meaning to post this for a while. Here is my wife’s AM/do-it-all ripper.
    We bought the frame from SC’s closeout sale and built the bike up on Christmas Eve. She has already tracked almost 100 miles on it. She absolutely loves it. Her previous bike was a GT I drive 4. This bike has given her so much more confidence on the downs and even helps her go faster on the ups. During our Moab trip last fall, she was able to rent a Blur LT for two days. From that point she knew it was going to have to be her next bike.

    Lets see those LT2s-img_1499.jpg

    Pretty much a budget build. We were able to get everything on sale. We were able to save money by using an old fork I had in the parts bin. Its temporary. She wants to use this bike as an “all-rounder.” We’re still deciding what fork to put on it. Since she is doing so well with the 160, she’s thinking about just wanting to keep it at that length. She prefers the comfort on the downs over the pedal-ability on the ups. All-in-all the bike weighs in at 31 lbs. (were hoping to get it in the 29 lbs. range once we upgrade the fork)

    Lets see those LT2s-img_1526.jpg

    Frame: Blur LT 2.2 Small
    Rear shock: Evolution CTD
    Fork: Marzocchi All Mountain 4 160mm (temporary)
    Headset: Cane Creek 10 Series
    Handlebar: Truvativ Stylo T30 700mm
    Stem: Truvativ Hussefelt 40mm
    Grips: ODI Ruffian
    Brakes: Shimano XT
    Rotors: Hayes 180 front, 160 rear
    Shifters: Sram X9
    Front Der: Sram X9
    Rear Der: Sram X9 med cage 9 speed
    Cranks: Sram X7
    Bottom Bracket: Sram GPX
    Cassette: Sram 970 11-34
    Chain: Sram 971
    Bash Guard: Truvativ Rock guard
    Chain Tensioner: Blackspire Stinger
    Wheelset: Sun Ringle Black Flag Comp 20mm TA front 10mm QR rear
    Tires: Continental Mountain King 2.4
    Saddle: WTB Speed She Pro
    Seatpost: Truvativ Stylo

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    Wrapping up my first build. Working on mounting XT rear caliper and the washers on the Shimano SM-MA90 are preventing the bolts from passing through the counterbores on the rear brake mount tabs. Before I dremel the washers off, any experience with this issue? Did my LBS recommend the wrong adapter?

    Here's a preview of the build...

    Lets see those LT2s-photo.jpg

    UPDATE: Picked up some socket head cap screws from the depot with proper head diameter. Worked well.
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    I've seen a few Blur's here with Arch's, can they handle the punishment the Blur can take? My Blur comes this week!

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    Yes, they can.

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    Another LT2 from the parking lot sale

    Lets see those LT2s-20130317-blurlt-0003.jpg

    Lets see those LT2s-20130317-blurlt-0002.jpg

    Lets see those LT2s-20130317-blurlt-0001.jpg

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    Very nice! How do you like the wheels? I came very close to buying a built Flow EX wheelset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing View Post
    Very nice! How do you like the wheels? I came very close to buying a built Flow EX wheelset.
    Just finished building up the bike, it hasn't seen any dirt yet. But according to the guy in the shop where I had the wheels built, the Arch EX can take a fair amount of abuse. We'll find out soon

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    Good to hear on the Arch EX's. The next question would be how they would handle a 2.5 Minion or 2.4 Rubber Queen/X-King, being a bit narrower than the Flow EX.

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    I've been meaning to post a picture of my new Blur LT 650B build... finished a couple of months ago and I've been riding it pretty regularly when there's no snow on the ground here in Colorado. So far I LOVE it- for my type of riding, 27.5" wheels are absolutely perfect.


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    I'm saying goodbye to my 2008 BLT, fantastic frame

    Lets see those LT2s-p4pb9313473.jpg

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    why are you saying goodbye??? you got something new coming down the pike?

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    Yes, Nomad carbon

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    ahhh very nice. what made you choose the nomad carbon over another blur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    I've been meaning to post a picture of my new Blur LT 650B build... finished a couple of months ago and I've been riding it pretty regularly when there's no snow on the ground here in Colorado. So far I LOVE it- for my type of riding, 27.5" wheels are absolutely perfect.

    Did you drill out your cable stops? How'd you run full-length housing? That's one of my bigger complaints about the BLT2.
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    I think all of the Blur LT's now have full run housing. At least my 2012 does...
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    So while converting my 2011 to 1x10 I had the darndest time fitting my e.13 guide. I ended up taking the hacksaw to the lower roller/guide to make it clear the pivots on the frame. Kind of a ghetto MRP AMG guide. For those with frames without ISCG mounts, what guides will clear the frame and let me keep the bottom roller?

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    so riddle me this....what was the logic behind even making lines not run continuous down the bike???? it can't be weight. i can only think of perhaps resistance or smoothness of shifting but all the areas exposed are of course straight runs so the resistance there is nil any how.

    on my blt2 i have the runs for the shifting lines going through a small hollow tube of plastic line so it is protected from the outside elements and dirt. it is basically a totally sealed system and has worked very well for over a year.

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    Finally got some good pics of it. This is the second real ride with it, so still getting it dialed in.

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    Nice ride! How do you like the fork? Is that the 44 RC3?
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    It is the RC3 Ti. I've only had it on proper trails a couple times, but so far I like it. I've had a couple 36's, a Lyrik, and a 32, and in terms of stiffness its noticeably stiffer than the 32. Well worth any extra weight. I'm still getting use to dampening/spring rate etc. It feels way too soft on the road, but once it hits the trails it does an excellent job. Small bump compliance is excellent, and there is no noticeable bottoming out. I'm running 0 psi in the air assist, 1 or two clicks of low speed compression, and I'm still playing with the rebound to get it where I like it.

    And I think it looks bomber (pun intended)

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    NOW THIS is what I'm aiming for.

    Thinking of selling my current bike - plan to upgrade. The Blur LT is definitely on my shortlist. Unfortunately for me we don't have dealers go on sale locally hahaha. Frame of the Blur alone costs more than my whole bike

    Anyways, no problems fitting the reverb on there? Is that the 30.9mm version? And what's the total weight for this one? Thinking of using the bike for all mountain and enduro type stuff

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    Found my old LT2 frame for sale for cheap and had to buy it back again. Looked pretty rough but have given it a bit of a clean up, cant wait to build it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prancisfena View Post
    NOW THIS is what I'm aiming for.

    Thinking of selling my current bike - plan to upgrade. The Blur LT is definitely on my shortlist. Unfortunately for me we don't have dealers go on sale locally hahaha. Frame of the Blur alone costs more than my whole bike

    Anyways, no problems fitting the reverb on there? Is that the 30.9mm version? And what's the total weight for this one? Thinking of using the bike for all mountain and enduro type stuff
    Weight is ~13.2 kg (29.1 lbs). The bare frame (XL) is ~3.2 kg.
    The Reverb is a 30.9 380mm with 125mm travel.

    My build leans towards XC/trail. Although I ride very technical trails (vancouver north shore), I'm not that aggressive and pretty slow so the 32 fork and Arch EX wheels are fine for me ;-)

    The LT2 is still a great bike. Maybe you can pick up a used frame, lots of people likely to sell it now the Bronson is here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Did you drill out your cable stops? How'd you run full-length housing? That's one of my bigger complaints about the BLT2.
    There are no cable stops on my frame. (sorry for the late reply!)

    I had some issues with my 650B wheelset, so I've temporarily replaced them with a WTB Stryker Cross Country Race pair mounted with an Ardent 2.4" front and Crossmark 2.25" rear. My bike feels light like a feather now- I'm guessing around 27 lbs with the seat-dropper post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeboardorblade View Post
    So while converting my 2011 to 1x10 I had the darndest time fitting my e.13 guide. I ended up taking the hacksaw to the lower roller/guide to make it clear the pivots on the frame. Kind of a ghetto MRP AMG guide. For those with frames without ISCG mounts, what guides will clear the frame and let me keep the bottom roller?

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    yep! It works out perfectly. if you're gonna run a 1x setup, go with a zee or saint derailleur so you can run short cage (you need the FR specific one for an 11-36 cassette capacity). the XTR only goes down to medium.

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    Bought last winter frm SC sale. Blur LT2.2 Large
    Great climber for a 140mm bike but I am still trying to short descents and figure out the cockpit. With 70mm stem I feel out of balance at 1.86cm (6.1).
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    Tested something new for this year and dropped 36rc2 to 150mm, and also installed Burgtec reducer off set bushing to RP23. Now BB should be 1 cm lower and angles are same as before (HA 66 with works components), after first tests, there is a clear difference and handling is better with lower center of gravity. 30€ investment paid off well.

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    Bikegreece, what fork are you running(and what travel)? Maybe the fork is running a bit soft compared to the rear?

    I had challenges getting my my BLT2.0 sorted out, and found the balance between the front ad rear made a big difference for me.

    I also picked up a 2.2 from the sale, and am still tweeking my suspension and cockpit as well. I'm 6 foot on a large frame, also 70mm stem. Gonna run a fox 36 float at 140-150mm(havent decided yet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordic09 View Post
    Tested something new for this year and dropped 36rc2 to 150mm, and also installed Burgtec reducer off set bushing to RP23. Now BB should be 1 cm lower and angles are same as before (HA 66 with works components), after first tests, there is a clear difference and handling is better with lower center of gravity. 30€ investment paid off well.
    I'm running a similar set up but I left the fork @ 160. Did you try it ? Why do you think 150 run better ?

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    True, I feel my fork (a 2012 Marz 44 Micro TA 150mm) a bit soft sometimes. Those times I feel "better" to lock it out and soften the threshold a lot.

    I am switching into a 90mm stem and I am looking for a post with 1" offset. Today most of the companies offer 24" (or even longer) top tubes for a large, this is important particular with all those short stems around. SC adopted a longer TT into their carbon Blur frames but the Alu version has an oldish geometry. My 2009 stumpy used to feel like a train into the trails and my anthem x is more stable.
    Could be my riding style, I am an old dog not easy to learn the new tricks. Maybe now at 47, what others call "agile" is "unstable" for me and I cannot ride standing on the pedals to balance all the time. In any case, the bike feels short.

    I agree with your 36 choice but, I believe now I prefer it at 160mm. I might start looking for one like this as well.

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    Well I wanted to maximize bb drop, and also I have fatty tires. Another thing is that I don't want to slacken seat angle more, so fork is now 150. In my case, I have staight 1 1/8" headtube, and angleset actually did slacken seat angle and lifted bb due to high bearing cup at bottom. When it is dry in forest, needle bearing will be put to RP23 another end, let's see how's that behaving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VERT1 View Post
    Found my old LT2 frame for sale for cheap and had to buy it back again. Looked pretty rough but have given it a bit of a clean up, cant wait to build it up.
    So here it is built up now, riding just like I remembered it
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    I'm looking to pick up an LT2 frame from SC sale but I am looking for opinions on what size. I'm 6'1"ish with around 31.5" inseem, what do you all suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCOutdoors View Post
    I'm looking to pick up an LT2 frame from SC sale but I am looking for opinions on what size. I'm 6'1"ish with around 31.5" inseem, what do you all suggest?
    XL , just sold my L for being too short (see my previous posts in here as well). I am 6.1, 33inseam. I guess your 31.5 inseam gives you a longer torso so a L will be too short unless you plan to run 90+mm stems. Then of course comes the riding style and personal preferences.

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    OCOutdoors, I am 6,1 (185 cm) and my L Blur LT very well for me (climb and descent), with 50 mm stem, 20 mm spacers and Renthal Fat Bar.

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    New LTc

    Pulled the trigger and grabbed a large LTc frame from the clearance sale.

    Everything is ready and I'm heading out for my first ride. The 160mm front rotor might be a bit small, but I'm hoping the power of the Formula RX brakes can compensate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkMass View Post
    The 160mm front rotor might be a bit small, but I'm hoping the power of the Formula RX brakes can compensate.
    Nice bike

    However I would definitely change front rotor to 180 minimum. Unless you are small girl and your descents are very short
    You will BURN this one on anything steep and long, I am afraid

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    Here's an updated picture of my 2012 LT2 with the 650B conversion... in the last few weeks I've put on a Fox Float Power Boost Kashima rear shock and a Fox 32 150 FIT RLC Kashima front fork. I'm about to swap out the tires to a Trail Taker 2.4" in front and move the Ardent EXO 2.25" from the front to the rear; a slightly more burly setup for my upcoming trips to Fruita, Moab, Aspen, and Crested Butte.


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    Quote Originally Posted by osobny View Post
    However I would definitely change front rotor to 180 minimum. Unless you are small girl and your descents are very short
    You will BURN this one on anything steep and long, I am afraid
    The 160mm front rotor was fine for the riding in Santa Cruz, but I swapped it out for a 180mm just so it wouldn't be an issue in the future. The front brake was still a bit grabby on some of the descents. Unfortunately, modulation isn't something Formula RX brakes are good at.

    I also swapped in a shorter stem (85mm Haven), wider bars (Haven), and raised my stem by 10mm.

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    The Large Blur has gone. At 6.1" was very shortish for me. An XL carbon has arrived. Yes it feels bigger and not as manoeuvrable as I would like to, wish if I had this package and travel in a TRc geometry or, maybe I will....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikegreece View Post
    ...it feels bigger and not as manoeuvrable as I would like to, wish if I had this package and travel in a TRc geometry or, maybe I will....

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    Short-shock that rear by about 1/4" by slipping in some spacers. Travel reduction should be down to about 130mm (anecdotal - I short-shocked my 2.5" stroke down to 2.18" stroke, and got ~126mm in travel). You'll slack out the front end just a touch. With all things being equal on your fork's rake (same fork), you'll reduce the bike's trail and should speed up steering (yeah, I know this sounds counter intuitive) a bit while the slacker angle helps w/ high speeds. It'll also lowers your BB a bit too.

    Edit: correction...some bad math. 1/4" short-shocking will get you ~125mm travel.
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    Paul11y, what needs to be done to short shock the float?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Short-shock that rear by about 1/4" by slipping in some spacers. Travel reduction should be down to about 130mm (anecdotal - I short-shocked my 2.5" stroke down to 2.18" stroke, and got ~126mm in travel). You'll slack out the front end just a touch. With all things being equal on your fork's rake (same fork), you'll reduce the bike's trail and should speed up steering (yeah, I know this sounds counter intuitive) a bit while the slacker angle helps w/ high speeds. It'll also lowers your BB a bit too.

    Edit: correction...some bad math. 1/4" short-shocking will get you ~125mm travel.

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    Short Shocking vs Offset Bushings

    You could also use offset shock bushings to slacken the head tube a degree and drop the BB a little. I'm trying to do this to my LTc but I'm not sure how much offset I can use. Burgtec only sells 3mm offsets and has a kit for the LTc for about $60, so maybe 3mm fits. You can also find them on eBay. Less expensive than a new shock if it'll fit, and no decrease in travel. I tested, and a 2.35 tire (Slant Six in my case) does not contact the seat tube at bottom out if the shock were offset 6mm (total compressed shock length of 146.4mm, see picture).
    Anyone know exactly how much offset you can use on the LTc? My estimation is that 2mm is the maximum offset you can use on the upper and lower mounts before the mount/shock body and rear of shock/linkage make contact, but I'd like to be sure before ordering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by liketoride View Post
    You could also use offset shock bushings to slacken the head tube a degree and drop the BB a little. I'm trying to do this to my LTc but I'm not sure how much offset I can use. Burgtec only sells 3mm offsets and has a kit for the LTc for about $60, so maybe 3mm fits. You can also find them on eBay. Less expensive than a new shock if it'll fit, and no decrease in travel. I tested, and a 2.35 tire (Slant Six in my case) does not contact the seat tube at bottom out if the shock were offset 6mm (total compressed shock length of 146.4mm, see picture).
    Anyone know exactly how much offset you can use on the LTc? My estimation is that 2mm is the maximum offset you can use on the upper and lower mounts before the mount/shock body and rear of shock/linkage make contact, but I'd like to be sure before ordering.
    JL, I've been looking at this for my aluminum LT2 but with 8mm shock bolts, the most offset I can find is only 1mm at each end. This makes sense since there isn't any room to offset it more. I decided against it because an overall reduction of 2mm in i2i length is negligible and not worth the money. I thought the carbon frame had the same size bolts but maybe not?
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    LTc also has 8mm bolts. I've crunched the numbers and think 2mm should fit on both ends. I emailed a few of the offset bushing sellers to double check; I'll report back when they respond. Would be funny if the 3mm kit Burgtec has for the LT2 doesn't actually fit.

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    I have the offset shock bushing from Proshox, I haven't installed it yet, as I just finished swapping parts over from my LT to LTc this weekend, will do it tomorrow and report back.

    Quote Originally Posted by liketoride View Post
    LTc also has 8mm bolts. I've crunched the numbers and think 2mm should fit on both ends. I emailed a few of the offset bushing sellers to double check; I'll report back when they respond. Would be funny if the 3mm kit Burgtec has for the LT2 doesn't actually fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liketoride View Post
    LTc also has 8mm bolts. I've crunched the numbers and think 2mm should fit on both ends. I emailed a few of the offset bushing sellers to double check; I'll report back when they respond. Would be funny if the 3mm kit Burgtec has for the LT2 doesn't actually fit.
    Do you have a link to those kits? I didn't think it was physically possible to make a kit with 3mm offset for an 8mm bolt.

    The shock eyelet is 1/2" (12.7mm) in diameter. Subtract 8mm for the diameter of the bolt and you're left with 4.7mm. A non-offset reducer would then have a wall thickness of 2.35mm all around. I read somewhere that you can't have a wall thickness of less than 1mm because it becomes too weak. So the most you could offset the hole would be 1.35mm.

    But I would love to be proven wrong!
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    Just measured the Proshox offset bushing I have has a wall thickness of .65mm, I haven't used it or installed it yet, definitely super thin, we'll see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley View Post
    Do you have a link to those kits? I didn't think it was physically possible to make a kit with 3mm offset for an 8mm bolt.

    The shock eyelet is 1/2" (12.7mm) in diameter. Subtract 8mm for the diameter of the bolt and you're left with 4.7mm. A non-offset reducer would then have a wall thickness of 2.35mm all around. I read somewhere that you can't have a wall thickness of less than 1mm because it becomes too weak. So the most you could offset the hole would be 1.35mm.

    But I would love to be proven wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xhailofgunfirex View Post
    Just measured the Proshox offset bushing I have has a wall thickness of .65mm, I haven't used it or installed it yet, definitely super thin, we'll see.
    Thanks for the measurement, that's good to know. So with two sets, you get 3.4mm of offset (1.7mm on each end)
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    xhailofgunfirex, how many mm offset are your bushings? I thought they only come in 1, 2, and 3mm- did they custom drill them for you? This would make Berkley's 3.4mm calculation make sense..curious to see how they fit and if the effect on geometry is noticeable.

    The hole in the shock is 15mm so it should be doable with 8mm bolts depending on the thicknesses of the bushings and how close to the edge they can drill the offset.

    Here's the ebay link to ProShox. Offset Shock Bushings Mounting Hardware Mount Kit All Frames Proshox | eBay

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    The naked eyelet I.D. is 15mm. But then there's a bushing pressed into that. The I.D. of the bushing is 12.7mm. The offset that xhailofgunfirex has is the most you'll be able to do. 3mm offset only exists for frames with 6mm bolt diameter.
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    Thanks for the clarification. I thought the offset kit had reducers with a thinner wall that open the hole to greater than 12.7mm.

    If he actually means the thickness of the reducer is 0.65mm (rather than how thin the wall next to the offset hole is), that opens the ID to 15- 2(.65) = 13.7mm opening, rather than the stock 12.7, which your numbers are based on. Then you get 13.7 eyelet - 8 bolt -1mm for minimum thickness = 4.7mm. 13.7 diameter/2=6.85 radius - 4.7 = 2.15mm. 4-2.15 = 1.85mm offset per eyelet or 3.7mm with both. Will just wait and see how he likes his setup. Should do right about 0.5 degrees slacker this way, similar to the newest gen BLTa at 67.6.

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    ProShox just responded and confirmed this, saying his offsets for 8mm bolts provides 1.8mm offset per side or 3.6 for the both, wonder if it's worth it.

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    Alright, so I only purchased one offset bushing, I placed that in the lower shock mount, clearance is fine. I honestly couldn't even tell the difference when measuring the bb height, at best maybe 1/8" though I could be off just measuring between setups.. My phones level accuracy is not enough to tell me if any change in head angle, just putting it on the head tube and taking it off I get different readings. So right now from what I'm seeing it's not worth it for just the one.

    Which there was this discussion a few weeks ago when I ordered it! lol

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    I deflated my shock until it sagged as close to 3.6mm as possible and that produced visibly different results in the BB height and HT angle- just under a degree in HT angle and ~10mm BB drop. Thank you for the information. I'll probably get a set.
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