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    How do you make a superlight ...super-light?


    I replaced the Tora fork with a Reba team, plopped some UST tubeless tires and rims (crosslands) on there, got some carbon bars. Where else should I trim?
    This was a fully assembled bike off the floor. It's currently 28.5 lbs...
    I'm looking at the cranks and drivetrain. Wheres the bang for the buck?
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    My Heckler weighs at 28 lbs

    I can't tell all the components from your pic, but you seem to pack heavy stuff. Here's some suggestions:

    - Wheels are where weight counts the most, because its unsuspended and rolling mass. Get light wheels, it'll make the biggest difference.
    - Get light tires, see above.
    - Saddle seems to be a couch. Get a Flite, SDG Ti-Fly or similar.
    - Seat post -> Thomson Masterpiece or carbon (many options)
    - I can't tell what crankset you have, but it seems like Shimano now has the best price/weight ratio.
    - Lose the biggest chainring, get a short cage rear derailleur and a road cassette.

    Minimizing rolling masses is where you should start.

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    The advice given to me was the same as Krisse has given you start with the wheels and tyres, and saddle, apparently some saddles can be pretty heavy, other than that it gets expensive full xtr , ti bolts etc.... 28lb should still be a nice ride, I find 30lb and under rides quick ,just not racing weight, rolling resistance can make a bike feel dead slow, so tyres can make a big difference.

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    I managed to get my 07 large SL just under 24 pounds. That was with some high end stuff though - Dt Swiss XR 1540 wheels, full XTR, Pace carbon forks, Thomson Masterpiece post, Syntace F99 stem, Race face carbon flat bar (now changed to Easton lowriser), eggbeater pedals, etc.

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    Crosslands are heavy. Go for a 4.2/ProII set if you're on a budget.
    Avids aren't the lightest. Again, on a budget, go for Hope Minis with Floating Rotors, Maggie Martas, or something similar.

    Bar and stem (syntace is a good suggestion)

    Cranks, pedals, although I'd never really go below the 300g mark or so with pedal, for reliability.

    Can't see your shifters, FD, RD, or cassette. For the cassette, go XT or 990. You can also go Gripshift X9 or X0 (same thing) for budget light weight. RD- X9. FD- doesn't make much of a difference.

    I don't think it's outrageous to think you can get down into the 26 range.

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    Since you replaced the Tora, you must have had the Superlight D build kit. One of the most glaring heavy spots on that D build is the HG50 cassette. For minimal cost you can save at least a 1/3 lb on the cassette alone.

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    I bought my 08 SL on ebay and had a weird build, but similar weight...i posted a similar thread, but i cant get it to pull up since its archived (Losing weight on a budget)....

    Anyway, I swapped the tora out first, the cassette to a sram 980, you could also get a 990 or an XT...

    Ive got Truvativ Stylo 3.3 GXP cranks, switched to 2x9 with raceface rings, and a XTR/DA chain..

    Eggbeater SL pedals

    Thomson seatpost and stem, carbon bar

    got mine down to 26.5 lbs or so with heavy tires...next to be changed will be the wheelset, should get me to about 25ish or so, then Ill call it good enough for me...

    All of those things should lighten it up a bit, piece by piece its fun to do

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    Here's my build

    First, get rid of that horrible saddle, that looks something off a spinning class bike!!
    I got my new SL down to 24.6 lbs, here's my build:

    R7 fork (06)
    Got lucky with the wheelset here on the clasiffieds, Stans Olympics with AC hubs ans Sapim spokes!!!
    Crank bros cobalt headset
    carbon flat bars
    race face deus stem
    SRAM Rocket shifters
    Avid juicy 7 carbon brakes
    XTR chain
    XT crankset
    Crank bros SL eggbeater pedals
    XT shadow rear der
    XT cassette
    XT front der
    Race face carbon seatpost
    Fizik Arione Roadie Saddle
    Kenda's SB8's NON tubeless converted to stans

    Some of the parts i already had from a previous frame i sold, i posted a pic in the superlight love thread, about a week ago..

    So, it's really your pick were to save weight, like most said, spend your cash in light wheels and tires, that's were you feel the weight savings.
    Casette, saddle, pedals and crankset can make a big difference for overall weight!!

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    If you don't mind me asking a personal question; how much do you weigh? I'm debating an SL next year but I'm a bigger rider at ~230 and a few have told me I will kill an SL.

    Thanks,
    Anthony

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    Quote Originally Posted by agabriel
    If you don't mind me asking a personal question; how much do you weigh? I'm debating an SL next year but I'm a bigger rider at ~230 and a few have told me I will kill an SL.

    Thanks,
    Anthony
    http://www.santacruzbikes.co.uk/bicy...erlight06.html

    Says it has a 225 pound limit...

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    my superlight weighs in at 26 lbs

    rocket v slt
    thomson elite post
    xt cranks
    991 chain
    990 cassett
    x9 shifter and deraliiurs
    fox f120
    king headset
    easton monkeylight bar
    richy stem
    specializex rol x tires
    mavic crossrides
    spd pedals

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    oh yea and also is your rear shock stiff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kramnnim
    Dude, that link is for the 06 model, the 08 doesn´t have a weight limit doesn´t say on the US website at least...

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    Quote Originally Posted by agabriel
    If you don't mind me asking a personal question; how much do you weigh? I'm debating an SL next year but I'm a bigger rider at ~230 and a few have told me I will kill an SL.

    Thanks,
    Anthony
    It's my wife's SL. None of yor buis what she weighs...
    As for the seat... you tell her!
    But yeah I'd get a heckler if I waz U.
    Last edited by tedroy; 09-18-2008 at 10:01 PM.
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    Whats a matter?

    You guys spend all yer $ on bike parts and got nuthin left for a camera?
    Hows about some pix of these feather weights...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kramnnim


    That was on the previous generation frame. The current frame has no weight limit.

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    I was about 230 when I got my 08 SL, no problem at all...since then it and me have been shedding pounds together...I ride aggressive XC (whatever i can find in charlotte, nc.....) and I love the superlight...it handles like a dream and climbs awesome...get the rp23 and propedal is the way to go....

    hope that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by kokoAzuela
    Dude, that link is for the 06 model, the 08 doesn´t have a weight limit doesn´t say on the US website at least...
    ...I need to improve my observation skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tedroy
    You guys spend all yer $ on bike parts and got nuthin left for a camera?
    Hows about some pix of these feather weights...
    Here you go then. Currently just over 24 pounds.
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    24.5

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    2nd the cassette. If you have the stock one-peice Deore cassette on there it's literally a cinder block. Literally!!!

    The tires and saddle next.

    Lightweight pedals next.

    Carbon post and bar next.

    I never apologize. I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am.

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    If you think of riding XC with any bike, consider lowering rotating weight (mass), i.e. wheels, tubes and tires. Then shoes, cranks and pedals. Imagine you have to move / accelerate those items several hundreds or thousands times during one trip / race!!!

    I own SC SL Slate Ano size S built with RS Reba Team U-turn, Hayes HFX-9XC plus Hone cranks, XT derailleurs and LX shifters + Schwalbe light tubes and Fast Freds on Mavics 117 and it weights 12.00 kg. Drop a priv msg, I can send you more details.

    Me and my santa (behind you can see Hochkoenig in Hinterthalm, Austria)
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