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    My Friend Highball

    This is a my friend Paulo Novo Highball . Very excusive. Very Cool.

    Ride 29er !!!

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    My Highball and Tallboy

    My new Highball SPX. Got a deal that was too good to pass up.
    Also have a Tallboy SPX which is a year + old.










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    Finally got one too.

    Can't wait until dryer weather to try out this new ride! Thanks to Chad@Redbarn for the complete built.
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    New Highball addition...

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    not many of the 2013 models up yet so i thought i'd share mine

    8.8kg (about 19.5 pounds for those stuck in old money) as you see it, incl pedals and 2.25" tyres... its fast!

    taking it easy on the descents for the couple of rides i've had on it so far since i'm coming from a 26" FS so its a bit of an adjustment. i don't think it will be holding me back any once i get a few more rides in though
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    ^^^ SUH-WEEEEET!!!

    I have everything to build my Highball...except my Highball.

    Back-ordered blowout frames from Competitive kept getting pushed back and pushed back. Finally gave up. I love the new darker color scheme though. It'll go nicely with all the EA70 and EC70 stuff I have to build it with.

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    Where??

    Where are people getting their Highballs? I want one! Large with XO 2X10 I assume.

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    posted this on the SS forum, but it fits here as well, hope you like it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagon boy View Post
    posted this on the SS forum, but it fits here as well, hope you like it!
    Dig the Build

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagon boy View Post

    posted this on the SS forum, but it fits here as well, hope you like it!
    That's a sweet build. I was wondering how you were tensioning your chain with the thru axle, but then saw you have a devise coming from the hanger. How's that working out for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eonicks View Post
    That's a sweet build. I was wondering how you were tensioning your chain with the thru axle, but then saw you have a devise coming from the hanger. How's that working out for you?
    It's ok, not perfect but it works :-/ I am thinking about going xtr cranks and an excentrizer, but unsure. they seems to be fairly reliable but I just don't know.

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    Hi All, I'm tempted to buy one of the 2012 Highballs that are on sale right now. I'm 5'10" and am used to racing road bikes. Do you think the large would be the right size choice? According to the SC size charts, I'm on the borderline between med and lg. Any other 5'10" or shorter people with a large frame? Unfortunately nobody in my city stocks Highballs, so I have no way to actually sit on one before I buy.

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    i'm 6'1" and find the large perfect which would suggest that the medium would be better for you
    really its a lot more complicated than that though... depends on your body proportions and personal fit preferences

    i've got long legs relative to my torso so you'll see in the pic i posted earlier i have a lot of seatpost even on a large. SC bikes seem to have shorter top tubes than many brands so work well for me

    i'd suggest comparing the geometry charts to a bike you know or one you can get a demo on (not a roadie as fit differs so much)
    if in doubt its generally safest to err on the small side - better to use a long, setback seatpost and long stem than try to shrink things (though i like a relatively short stem too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheel-addict View Post
    Hi All, I'm tempted to buy one of the 2012 Highballs that are on sale right now. I'm 5'10" and am used to racing road bikes. Do you think the large would be the right size choice? According to the SC size charts, I'm on the borderline between med and lg. Any other 5'10" or shorter people with a large frame? Unfortunately nobody in my city stocks Highballs, so I have no way to actually sit on one before I buy.
    Lots of posts by people around 5 10.

    I am 510 on a large with no offset thomson post with seat in nuetral position. I ran a 70mm stem for the first month, now a 90 for the last couple weeks. I think I will settle on an 80. Now that I've had it, I also think I would be fine on a medium with a 90 stem and seat slightly pushed back.

    5 10 is really a flip of the coin or a choice between you like a smaller bike w longer stem and more seatpost or stretched out a bit more and less post. I chose the large b/c I knew I could dial it in w the stem. If I went medium I was worried about going beyond 90 as I didn't want a layback post.

    Hope that helps!

    Oh... And the bike rips! Love mine with 120mm fork.

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    Thank fror the replies pk1 and jhardeman. My only current mountain bike has a 23.5" TT, and I don't feel that it is too short and could be a bit longer. The SC sizing is pretty unusual with either 23.0 TT or 24.0 TT. So it seems like I could go either way. It would probably be wiser to opt for a medium if I have to buy blind. Unfortunately, there are no mediums left in the smoking hot 2012 frame closeout deals.

    Just noticed some big differences between the 2012 and 2013 frames. In particular 142x12 thru axel and a 73 deg seat tube angle on 2013 vs 135 QR and 71 deg on 2012. I much prefer both of these new 2013 specs, so I'm not going to pull the trigger on a 2012 closeout deal frame even though they are 1/2 price.
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    same problem here. im 5'10'' and i went with the large b/c thats all they have available at Competitive Cyclist. couldnt pass up on the discount.

    hope it works out. im in process of building it. i'll upload some pics soon. waiting on some parts to come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montross View Post
    same problem here. im 5'10'' and i went with the large b/c thats all they have available at Competitive Cyclist. couldnt pass up on the discount.

    hope it works out. im in process of building it. i'll upload some pics soon. waiting on some parts to come in.
    A local shop actually had a built up 2012 highball in med. I gave a test ride and it is way too short in the top tube for me (5'10"). I think the large will be perfect. I'm currently debating going with a 2012 Highball or a 2012 Niner Air 9 RDO which are also on clearance. They look like almost the same bike spec wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheel-addict View Post
    I'm currently debating going with a 2012 Highball or a 2012 Niner Air 9 RDO which are also on clearance. They look like almost the same bike spec wise.
    I was on the same boat as you and ended up getting the Highball only because was less expensive, lighter (few grams) and the threaded bottom bracket on the Highball.

    RDO is a pretty damn sweet frame but you can't go wrong with the Highball
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    I almost wish the Jet 9 RDOs weren't on sale right now, because it's making me second-guess my resolve to try a 29er HT. I'm going to try owning only one mtb this year. On the quick demo I did of the medium High Ball, there was a good amount of vertical compliance in the frame, but I wasn't able to try any real trails to see how harsh (or hopefully smooth) it would be.

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    Just pulled the trigger on the 2012 Highball in black/red, size large!

    I also ordered a black Fox Float 100 OEM fork at the same time. I called Santa Cruz and found out that only authorized dealers have access to the black Float fork. Backcountry.com has the OEM forks on hand, but can only sell them with a new Santa Cruz, so I added one to the order (price is OK). Couldn't stand the thought of a white fork on this frame. I'm building this bike completely from scratch, so I'll be doing a lot of research for the rest of the build.

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    After a quick wash

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    Nice looking bike kevocastro! I'm now thinking about wheels. What do you think of those Black Flags? Are thoses the Black Flag Pro SLs? My only concern as that the rim i.d. is fairly narrow and I want to run tubeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheel-addict View Post
    Nice looking bike kevocastro! I'm now thinking about wheels. What do you think of those Black Flags? Are thoses the Black Flag Pro SLs? My only concern as that the rim i.d. is fairly narrow and I want to run tubeless.
    Thanks, actually I'm coming back from the LBS and had the chance to get the weight 10.30kg as shown.

    Wheels are Blackflag Expert and the have held great on XC and they roll smooth, I've running them tubeless ever since without an issue.
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    22.7 lbs. That's very good. Those wheels are a respectable 1900 g (listed), and you could easily drop 300 g (0.66 lbs) with a lighter set such as the Pro SLs. I've never built a mtb under 30 lbs (was into free-ride stuff), so this will be my first time trying to go light. Normally I would stay away from SunRingle, but they have been getting great reviews on the Blackflag wheels.

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    sun ringle wheels are awesome. I've beaten on a set of charger pros for two years and no problems not even a truing and I'm well over 200lbs. just picked up a set of pro sl to try to wreck and they will look sick on my matte highball.

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    Well this is my first set of Sunringlť wheels and easily see myself getting a new set for a different build.

    Being 22.7lb my Highball handles pretty wel but I've been bitten by the weight weenie bug, I'd like to get the bike sub 22lb replacing my steel bolts, SLX (360gr cassette) and a lighter set of pedals (Shimano M540)
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    Finally!!!!!!

    After being backordered for months with Competitive I cancelled my order and got the last Matte Grey Colorado Cyclist had in stock. Whew!!!

    Build: 1X10 setup
    Cranks: XT
    Pedals: Time ATAC
    RD: XT
    Shifter: XT
    Brakes/Rotors: XT
    Cassette: XT
    Wheels: EA70
    Tires: Specialized Ground Control UST 2.3 (heavy but bullet proof)
    Shock: Fox Float 100
    Bars: EC70
    Stem: 2013 Haven
    Post: Niner RDO
    Cages: Chris King SS
    Saddle: Selle italia SLR Flow
    HS: Chris King
    BB: Chris King
    Grips: ODI Rogue

    Not the superlight everyone on here seems to be building. It came in at a hair over 24 pounds. A lot of that is tire. 930 grams each for the Ground Control 2.3 UST (that's heavier than the wheelset!). I'll race something lighter.
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    ^^^^^ This is great. Gathering my parts for a similar build. Will be contacting you for some tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheel-addict View Post
    I'm 5'10" and am used to racing road bikes. Do you think the large would be the right size choice? According to the SC size charts, I'm on the borderline between med and lg. Any other 5'10" or shorter people with a large frame?
    I'm 5'10" with a 32" inseam, just got a large 2013 Highball with a 70mm stem. Feels great, leans nicely in turns and handles responsively. Not overly stretched on seated climbs. Plus you spend a lot of time out of the saddle because it's so darn easy to do on this bike, and a little extra top tube room can be helpful in that case.
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    That's good to hear. Honestly, I was considering returning this frame because I'm concerned about the reach. My other concern is with the long seat-tube given a 32" inseam. The longer seat tube, means a lot less exposed seat post which means a somewhat harsher ride. How are you finding the ride quality? I'm building this bike to race 50+ mi endurance races, but am worried about ride comfort.

    Quote Originally Posted by slacker666 View Post
    I'm 5'10" with a 32" inseam, just got a large 2013 Highball with a 70mm stem. Feels great, leans nicely in turns and handles responsively. Not overly stretched on seated climbs. Plus you spend a lot of time out of the saddle because it's so darn easy to do on this bike, and a little extra top tube room can be helpful in that case.

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    I don't have a lot by way of comparison b/c this is my first high quality hard tail. My other rides for the last year have been fs carbon and, shall we say, more vertically compliant. I've really enjoyed the fine tuned feeling of the trail on the Highball, and have not found comfort a problem, but then again it still has "that new bike smell" for me. (I have a Selle Italia SLR saddle, alu post, EC70 bars, and 70mm alu stem, fwiw. And tubeless crossmarks on the stock alloy rims, at ~25 psi.)

    The Highball is usually pretty neutral, honestly I forget that I'm supposed to be thinking "this is a harsh ride." I wouldn't call it supple. But it only feels harsh on sun baked adobe clay with thousands of cattle hoof craters in it. Standing, seated, whatever -- those stretches rattle my teeth going down.
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    My aforementioned Highball build

    In keeping with this thread...

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    Large 2013 frame, SPX 2x10 build as indicated on the SC web site. All XT drivetrain (26-38 x 11-36) and brakes. Modifications:

    * Selle Italia SLR Ti saddle
    * Xpedo mountain force ti/ti pedals
    * Thomson Elite X4 stem, 70mm

    About 23 pounds, trail ready. I got it for the legal trails on Mt Diablo and foothills, basically. It's stupid fast compared to my other bikes, about 15% faster than a short travel TallboyC up some of the iconic climbs in my area. And stupid fun to hammer the cranks and jump forward.
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    what front chain ring are you using? I see you don't have a chain catcher...any issues?

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    The front rings are 26 and 38 teeth. No chain catcher, and no problems...yet. I keep the clutch on the shadow plus rear der engaged, and that makes the chain nice and taut. That might have something to do with it staying put on the rings, at least eliminating chain jumps due to slap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neveo View Post
    Looks nice
    Here is mine , going to swap the 90 stem to a 70... Absolutely love this bike, perfect compliment to my tb LTc




    been on my fs for the past few months, but today i swapped out the 90 stem to a 70 and changed the saddle to a wtb sliverado. its even better than before...

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    Hope its done!!

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    hi everyone - after two months, my highball project is finally done.

    2012 highball large frame
    XT brakes/shifters
    XTR cranks/rear derailuer
    chris king headest + BB
    Mavic Crossmax 29 ST
    nobby nics for the winter, then switching out to rocket rons later.

    just finished. Going on on first ride now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmacattak View Post
    what front chain ring are you using? I see you don't have a chain catcher...any issues?
    I actually have a chain guide, but I had to switch from a low-mount to a high-mount. the picture was right after we discovered that the one off my Gary Fisher wasn't going to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montross View Post
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    hi everyone - after two months, my highball project is finally done.

    2012 highball large frame
    XT brakes/shifters
    XTR cranks/rear derailuer
    chris king headest + BB
    Mavic Crossmax 29 ST
    nobby nics for the winter, then switching out to rocket rons later.

    just finished. Going on on first ride now.
    What is the rear hub spec on these wheels? I'm trying to order some but they are unsure which ones I need. And I'm not too experience with bicycle stuff. Tks.

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    I love these highballs! This is the only bike that would have me switch from a 26''!

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    Finally non cell phone pics





















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    I don't have any really pretty pictures of the bike, so here it is dirty.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/slonie/8499708256/" title="Devil's Kitchen, Sedona AZ (and yes, that's a bell) by Slonie, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8096/8499708256_1e1e3669a5_o.jpg" width="612" height="612" alt="Devil's Kitchen, Sedona AZ (and yes, that's a bell)"></a>

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    Hi can i see pictures of your bike .I am planning on building 29er with XX1 ,just picking a frame.What Q 156 or 168 you went with.Thank Ales

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    You for sure want to get 156Q. If you have a road bike, 156Q is much closer to the same Q-factor. The highball frame takes 156 Q-factor no problem. XX1 is awesome! Love mine.

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    you guys use down tube protection for Highball carbon? and is it safe to carry the highball carbon with Thule proride 591? thank you

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    I'm proud owner of Highball Carbon.
    Rockshox SID XX dual air
    WTB I19
    Thomson seatpost
    XT front and rear derailleur
    SLX shifter
    Elixir 5

    the whole bike weight 26lbs without pedals and water bottle cage. It is pretty heavy for carbon frame. I want to get it under 24lbs later on. can you guys help me what i can do to lighten up the bike thank you
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    Mine. Just need the snow to go away so I can try it out on a trail.
    19.89lbs ready to ride.

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    I am ridic.

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    lighter wheelset
    lighter handlebars and stem would help

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    how is wtb i19? i thought it was a pretty decent wheel

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    dbigfot111 to get your weight down in a low part count I would look into you wheels in the cranks. while you do have i19's they are not the Frequany i19's if memory serves me right are about 100 grams lighter per rim, THAT IS HUGE!. while your current rims ahould be pretty strong so I wouldn't worry about that. The other part I would look into are you cranks. you can easily lose about 100 grams there as well while getting better performance.

    other than that handle bar and stem are a good area as well but you are only getting pure weight reductions without other performance gains.

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