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    Rear was about 26.5psi, front is around 25. It is hard to tell the actual clearance in the pictures. There is no rubbing and all, even with flex.
    I put a 120mm fork on it since the pictures. It is a blast on trail.
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    highball build thread and pics

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    highball build thread and pics

    JHC! I got data base errors every time I tried to post. I guess it is only half broken. I'll delete the BS ASAP.
    Sorry
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    For those that is with Rockshox Sid XX how do you like the set up? i cant seem to get my Sid XX dual air to adjust right. i weight 165lbs positive air 125 negative 125 and 5 rebounds click from the turtle.

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    For those that is with Rockshox Sid XX how do you like the set up? i cant seem to get my Sid XX dual air to adjust right. i weight 165lbs positive air 125 negative 125 and 5 rebounds click from the turtle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostfast View Post
    Thanks MonodoRides. I was looking at Santa Cruz as well, I was surprised not to see anything specifically for the highball. Although, you are right, those will fit any bike with a downtube. Does it looks like you can easily cut it down if needed? Let me know how it fits/looks whenever you install it.
    Finally got around to installing the Tallboy down tube protector on the Highball and no trimming required. Worked out so well I used my extra one on my On One 456

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    What kind of glue you used and where can I get one?

    Looks great
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevocastro View Post
    What kind of glue you used and where can I get one?

    Looks great
    It is an adhesive backed protector from Santa Cruz. Apparently designed for the Tallboy but works well on the Highball as well. See original post:

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    I bought this but haven't installed it yet so can't really speak to how well it works. It was designed for the Tallboy but would basically work for any bike downtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_strom View Post
    Rear was about 26.5psi, front is around 25. It is hard to tell the actual clearance in the pictures. There is no rubbing and all, even with flex.
    I put a 120mm fork on it since the pictures. It is a blast on trail.
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    is it 2.35 front and back?

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    highball build thread and pics

    Yes. 2.35 on back too.

    As for the 100mm SID XX dual air, I am running that and love it though I put a 120mm on from a different bike and really love the highball with it. I have the fork for sale but would run it again in a heartbeat if I could make it a 120mm.

    I run it a little softer than indicated and I over pump the negative chamber because I loose a bit of pressure when I remove the pump.

    Try messing with it for a while. Pump it up disconnect the pump and then reconnect it. I found that I lose pressure out of both chambers but more out of the negative. I think this is because the negative chamber is smaller so the same volume loss has a greater impact on the left over pressure.

    If I didn't do this I found that I had to firm a ride in the initial stroke.
    Hope that makes sense.

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    i've gotten to be more firm with more air pressure on the negative chamber. thank you for the pictures

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    Huh?

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    i've gotten the fork to be more to adjust better by increasing the air pressure in negative chamber. 2.35 no rub even at a big bump or drop?

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    My new Highball

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    Thanks for the link to Benidorm Bikes. This is the medium frame they had on sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uphillnogo View Post
    Thanks for the link to Benidorm Bikes. This is the medium frame they had on sale.
    Cool, glad it found a good home (across the country?). Looks like a nice build, but some carbon hoops might really take it to the next level if you're ever in a position to try 'em. Had Crests on mine too the first few rides, then switched to Roval Control SL's (also courtesy of Benidorm) and really noticed a difference. Even though the weight was practically the same, the Rovals eliminated any trace of the "turbo lag" I'd come to associate with 29" wheels. Such a solid and precise frame really benefits from wheels that also exhibit those traits.

    Food for thought, enjoy your sweet ride!
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles e View Post
    Cool, glad it found a good home (across the country?).

    Across the country to the the Bay Area. Took it out to Point Reyes and the bike did great on a rough trail and without the fork dialed in. Gotta love carbon, frame, bar, seat post, and maybe someday wheels. highball build thread and pics-20130630_115502.jpg

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    Just replaced a couple of bits and cleaned it up to detail

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    Just finished building this up from the stuff off my Tallboy C. Was so excited I forgot to tighten the crank arm bolts and didn't realize until I had driven to the trail! Doh! Ended up riding from home. Bike is FAST. I'll be lacing up a custom wheelset next weekend provided my spokes get here in a timely manner

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    My highball built:
    EASTON Haven wheels
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    Been following this thread for 7 months.
    I've had my 2012 Highball for a month now! First saw it in April and had to 'think about it'. At 53 and 210, former half-fast racer and with 10 years of nearly no riding after a couple nasty injuries, I wanted to get back in. LBS owner knew what i needed.

    Had a touring bike for a year, rode it about 4 times. SOLD
    Tried a used DH bike, rode it twice. SOLD
    In April I bought mine, built with XT and Fox 100 (stock Float 29 with Kashima...nice)

    IN my opinion, this is THE bike for guys like me. It inspires me to ride more. With the lockout fork I can do road riding, if I must. I've tried it on some great single track, up and down, and it works. It nearly climbs by itself (although there is some wear on the XT granny...)
    It's making getting back into shape a heckalottafun.

    For you young guys that have built your HB into a 20 lb wonder, it doesn't get better than this! For older guys, it's the Ferrari you wanted way back when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schwangster View Post
    Been following this thread for 7 months.
    I've had my 2012 Highball for a month now! First saw it in April and had to 'think about it'. At 53 and 210, former half-fast racer and with 10 years of nearly no riding after a couple nasty injuries, I wanted to get back in. LBS owner knew what i needed.

    Had a touring bike for a year, rode it about 4 times. SOLD
    Tried a used DH bike, rode it twice. SOLD
    In April I bought mine, built with XT and Fox 100 (stock Float 29 with Kashima...nice)

    IN my opinion, this is THE bike for guys like me. It inspires me to ride more. With the lockout fork I can do road riding, if I must. I've tried it on some great single track, up and down, and it works. It nearly climbs by itself (although there is some wear on the XT granny...)
    It's making getting back into shape a heckalottafun.

    For you young guys that have built your HB into a 20 lb wonder, it doesn't get better than this! For older guys, it's the Ferrari you wanted way back when.
    Glad you are enjoying your HB. Next time you replace your chain, you can replace the aluminum small chainring with a steel one. Generally cheaper and much longer lasting.

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    2013 Highball C

    Just picked up this very very very gently used Highball C.

    I swear it looks brand new, but the dealer said it was used. The tires have no dirt marks, the cassette is shiny, the chain still has the factory sticky grease on it, the frame is flawless, no cable rubs, etc...

    Either way I saved a lot of money cause it was considered used.

    I've done a couple of urban rides and the bike fits me great. I ride a Specialized Camber 29er FS on the trails so I just have to get used to the hardtail. Anyways, this is my first Santa Cruz bike and so far I'm happy with my purchase.

    BTW, it weighed in at 23.5 lbs stock with pedals. I'm hoping to drop a couple of pounds, maybe even bring it down to 20 lbs. We'll see.
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    I had to change my username here b/c the system didnt allow me to do a password recovery. weird.

    Anyhow, i updated my bike with some new parts. Got bored, so swapped the fork, and cranks to 1x10. She's 18 pounds now.

    Quote Originally Posted by montross View Post
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    hi everyone - after two months, my highball project is finally done.

    2012 highball large frame
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    nobby nics for the winter, then switching out to rocket rons later.

    just finished. Going on on first ride now.
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    Can someone help me find the manual for 2012 frame. SC website only listed the most recent frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbigfot111 View Post
    Can someone help me find the manual for 2012 frame. SC website only listed the most recent frame.
    its the same except for the rear axle. you can always email santa cruz's tech at tech@santacruzbicycles.com or Tel: 831.459.7560

    they are very helpful

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    Hi People

    Ive just managed to score a Carbon Highball frame and im now researching a build (1st build ive tried)

    General Question.
    The shifter cables under the top tube...why run a naked cable under the toptube? any reason they arent fully covered? can they be?

    I have an old 2009 GT Avalanche that does the same.

    Thanks

    PS anyone know if the new XX1 / XO1 works with the Highball?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrewfuzzy View Post
    Hi People

    Ive just managed to score a Carbon Highball frame and im now researching a build (1st build ive tried)

    General Question.
    The shifter cables under the top tube...why run a naked cable under the toptube? any reason they arent fully covered? can they be?

    I have an old 2009 GT Avalanche that does the same.

    Thanks

    PS anyone know if the new XX1 / XO1 works with the Highball?
    you can run a protective sleeve over the cable between the two or three joints. i think its included in most housing kits.

    xx1/x01 works great on the highball. the 156q fits. most important compatibility with xx1 setups are the wheels to fit the xx1 specifc hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrewfuzzy View Post
    Hi People

    Ive just managed to score a Carbon Highball frame and im now researching a build (1st build ive tried)

    General Question.
    The shifter cables under the top tube...why run a naked cable under the toptube? any reason they arent fully covered? can they be?
    One reason not to cover the cable under the top tube is the ability to quickly lube the cable (assuming that you don't run them dry) without undoing the pinch bolt at the derailleur. If you shift to the largest cog on the cassette, then shift down a few gears, without spinning the crank, you will create slack in the cable. Then, you can detach the housing from the frame stop. Slide one section of housing onto the exposed area of cable, leaving bare the part of the cable that is normally under the housing. Clean and lube this section, then slide the housing back. Repeat for other housing sections. No need to readjust your derailleur indexing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel~ View Post
    One reason not to cover the cable under the top tube is the ability to quickly lube the cable (assuming that you don't run them dry) without undoing the pinch bolt at the derailleur. If you shift to the largest cog on the cassette, then shift down a few gears, without spinning the crank, you will create slack in the cable. Then, you can detach the housing from the frame stop. Slide one section of housing onto the exposed area of cable, leaving bare the part of the cable that is normally under the housing. Clean and lube this section, then slide the housing back. Repeat for other housing sections. No need to readjust your derailleur indexing.

    -D
    Er.....of course I don't run them dry...ahem... but now I understand why a section is bare, my poor avalanche cables have never seen any lube since the day I bought it

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    FYI, throughout the year of racing my highball I've had nothing but great experiences with everything BUT the bare cable routing under the top tube. Every 2 races or so the rear derailleur shifting would degrade to a point of having a LOT of resistance. I was replacing the cable/housing every couple races, until I finally put a nosed ferrule on the housing going into the cable at the rear end of the top tube. It seems that all the sweat/salt/dust/etc from racing would work it's way into the cable due to gravity/etc. With the nosed ferrule I've done ~5-7 races without having to replace the cable/housing.

    Aside from this fairly minor gripe, the frame has been amazing in 20+ XC and endurance races throughout 2013. I would buy another, although I'd be more inclined to buy another if there was full cable housing under the top tube.

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    highball build thread and pics

    I took advantage of clearance deal at Competitive Cyclist and got a 2012 size XXL. Cable routing is all under the toptube, which I prefer. It's easy to run full housing instead of bare cable sections, but making it look clean is the challenge. Basic solution is to zip tie the derailleur housing to the brake housing. I'll be running 1x11 and appreciate the low profile cable stop for the F.der, which will be unused.
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    My new ride

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    Awesome! You are gonna love that thing!

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    Just bought a 2013 highball carbon frame to build up. I see that a lot of people are using Easton EA70 XCT rims. Does anyone know if the hubs that come with that Easton wheelset are XX1 compatible?

    The wheelset description says it has an X2 rear hub: Easton EA70 XCT 29er Rear Wheel 2013 | Easton | Brand | www.PricePoint.com

    Here's the description of Easton's XD driver: Cassette Body XD (SRAM XX1 and M1-_21 and M1-_22 hubs)

    It doesn't list the X2 hub, but I didn't know if the hub had a different model number (hopefully something like M-121).

    Thanks

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    Went tubeless. Likely never go back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jollyjared View Post
    Just bought a 2013 highball carbon frame to build up. I see that a lot of people are using Easton EA70 XCT rims. Does anyone know if the hubs that come with that Easton wheelset are XX1 compatible?

    The wheelset description says it has an X2 rear hub: Easton EA70 XCT 29er Rear Wheel 2013 | Easton | Brand | www.PricePoint.com

    Here's the description of Easton's XD driver: Cassette Body XD (SRAM XX1 and M1-_21 and M1-_22 hubs)

    It doesn't list the X2 hub, but I didn't know if the hub had a different model number (hopefully something like M-121).

    Thanks
    call Easton Cycling directly. They usually answer the phone quickly and can tell you exactly what you need to convert, assuming you can. They will also sell you the parts directly if you want.

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    I want to run X01 too for a nice neat frame may just zip tie the housings down the centre of top tube instead of using the mountings....should look tidy.

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    Well after lurking on this thread for quite a while. I'm ready to post up. I bought a 2013 HB Frame about a month ago and I have been patiently grabbing up components for a build. I sold some stuff at just the right time, so it made it easy for me to spec this thing out exactly as I wanted.

    Here is my intended build.

    2013 Black Frame
    SID XX Fork with 15mm Through Axle & Remote Lockout
    Full X01 group build (Black/Grey)
    XTR Race Brakes w/ Ice Tech Rotors 160/160
    ENVE Handlebar
    ENVE Seatpost (Zero Setback)
    Selle SL Saddle
    Easton EA70 Stem 90mm 6deg Rise (May Switch to ThomsonX4 Once I get a Few Rides In)
    Light-Bicycle 27mm Hookless Carbon Rims
    Hope Pro 2 EVO Hubs (Gunmetal)
    Black Spokes w/ Gunmetal Alloy Nipples
    Hope Gunmetal Headset Spacers (for added sex appeal)

    No Pictures yet as I am still waiting for most of the parts to come in. The Rims could be delayed as much as 10-14 days, I figure. As you can imagine, I can't wait. I'm only worried because I hope I don't fall in love with this bike so much that I stop riding my JET 9 RDO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Cownty Brewer View Post
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    Here is my intended build.
    ...I'm only worried because I hope I don't fall in love with this bike so much that I stop riding my JET 9 RDO.
    Looking forward to seeing the pictures. Sounds like a killer build. Just plan to do the occational 100 miler over some fairly rough trail and I'm sure you'll still want your JET 9 RDO ;-) I also have a JET 9 RDO which I love. < 3 hour rides = hardtail. > 3 (or even all day) rides = fully!

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    Just picked it up today used.

    A mix of xt and xtr stuff with mostly Easton cockpit. Roval control wheels setup tubeless. 22.4lbs as it sits.

    Probably get rid of the xtr race cranks cause I need something with a smaller granny than 28. Bike will be used for mostly endurance races and some xc. I found most of the northeast endurance events pretty mellow so wanted to try a lighter hardtail.

    I tried to post a pic but it only comes in upside down

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    How the heck do I fix the upside down pick?

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    anyone here running 2.35 hans dampf with sid xx? how is the clearance of front and rear? i'm worry it might rub in the rear. please let me know

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    First Time posting my highball

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    bike isn't clean and cell phone pic is a little blurry but it is better than nothing.

    mostly xtr drivetrain except for the cranks, which i did have the xtr stuff but i swapped for an xt so i could run a lower granny gear. the cockpit bits are mostly easton ec70 stuff. bike is really fun to ride. weighs 22.76 as you see it with the bottle cage mounts, garmin mounts, speed sesnor, and a little mud.

    when i was buying this bike the one thing that almost made me not get it was all the comments on how stiff and harsh the ride would be. this is my first carbon hardtail so i don't have a ton of experience but it is WAY softer, and less buzzing than the aluminum hardtail that it replaced. definately deaden alot of the trail buzz compared to the aluminum bike by a long shot.

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    highball build thread and pics

    My build with a 2012 XXL frame is coming along and I crossed one hurdle - 2.35 Nobby Nic on Derby rim fits:

    ~4mm clearance around chainstay:
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    ~5mm clearance around seatstay:
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    Pretty cool. How about a few pix of the entire bike?

    -D (fellow XXL owner)

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    awesome. thank you for the confirmation on 2.35. cant wait to mount mine 2.35 hans damf. how does it feel?

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    I ran 2,35 Nobby Nics for a short time in a large frame on 21mm ID rims and though there was room for them while on the stand they were close enough that the topcoats of the frame finish was worn away. I would not call them a good idea even though they technically fit.
    I posted while back. It might have been before I realized they were causing erosion. I'll see if I can get photos up tomorrow.
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    Looking at your pictures I see more clearance than I remember on mine. Might be the frame size difference or an improvement to the frame. Mine is an older type with the standard 9mm QR rear drop out.
    I fricken love this bike though. It is the goto for almost everything I ride. I currently am rocking 2,25 Rocket Ron's and I'll say it again, I love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fire_strom View Post
    Looking at your pictures I see more clearance than I remember on mine. Might be the frame size difference or an improvement to the frame. Mine is an older type with the standard 9mm QR rear drop out.
    I fricken love this bike though. It is the goto for almost everything I ride. I currently am rocking 2,25 Rocket Ron's and I'll say it again, I love it.
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    It was earlier posts - maybe yours- that convinced me to buy the 2.35" tire. Mine is also QR - in fact had to remove the skewer to install the wheel. To me the clearance is just acceptable, likely not enough room for a mini fender, but I plan to add some protective tape for peace of mind. Backup plan is 2.25" Rocket Rons.

    These Derby rims are 29mm internal. The brand new 2.35" Nobby measured true 2.35" (with tube at ~40psi). A 2.25" Nobby Nic on my old Stan's Arch (21mm internal?) measures true 2.25" (tubeless 25psi). So, the rim width did not seem to measurably increase tire width - this is consistent with what I've read in Derby rim thread. Benefit is the supporting angle and resistance to folding over at low psi - I'm counting on that - hoping to run ~18psi.

    I'll be done with my build in a few weeks and will post pics / first impressions then. So far only disappointment is not enough cable guides under top tube. What are the best adhesive ones?
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    Some 3M helicopter tape would definitely make it better. I hadn't thought of that which is odd since the stuff is all over the rest if the bike. The 2,35 NN live on my Tallboy and I only ride them on the Highball for a short time while the Tallboy was broken.
    I run around 26psi in the back.
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    Oh yah, Jagwire. They're medal and can be shaped into the exact contour of the tubes. Zero issues with mine. Prepped the site with rubbing alcohol.
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    Changed over to Raceface 30T and 11-36 with XTR clutch RD.
    Worked great today.
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    I tried posting this in the Highball AL thread and got no reply. How does the AL frame stack up against the Carbon one?

    Thanks guys.

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    Just a quick question to you guys ... im starting to doubt myself, ive ordered a GXP crank for my Highball Carbon im building, thats the right sort isnt it? the BB30s are the pressfit types from what ive read.. Cheers in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrewfuzzy View Post
    Just a quick question to you guys ... im starting to doubt myself, ive ordered a GXP crank for my Highball Carbon im building, thats the right sort isnt it? the BB30s are the pressfit types from what ive read.. Cheers in advance.
    Yep, you ordered the right crankset. GXP is threaded, so it will work with the highball frame. BB30/PF30 is pressfit and will not fit the highball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiflow_21 View Post
    Yep, you ordered the right crankset. GXP is threaded, so it will work with the highball frame. BB30/PF30 is pressfit and will not fit the highball.

    Great I thought id ordered correctly but its nice to know....theres so many different versions of this and that.

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    Cable Routing Question

    For those of you running a 1x setup. Do you find it better to run the RD cable housing on the opposite side of the shifter? It appears the standard RD housing, especially on 2x or 3x setups is to loop the housing back on the same side as the RD shifter. I think this is too much housing out front. I've seen some setups from the pictures on this thread that have the routing on the opposite side. Any suggestions and or problems with either route? Or am I over-thinking this?
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    opposite for sure! no issues. I cross it back over behind the last top tube loop just in front of the seat tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodoljake View Post
    opposite for sure! no issues. I cross it back over behind the last top tube loop just in front of the seat tube.
    I saw this on a number of bikes here and was thinking of going that way, I did originally have it passed through the back side of the seat tube, but I like in front better and see less chance of a snag or leg catching. It definitely looks better crossed over on the front IMO
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    I know this is a bad picture since it's a Tallboy, but it addresses the question... I prefer to keep the cable on the same side. I do think it looks better crossing over, but I don't like having to cross back to the drive side by the BB. (I'm looking at this thread because I'm thinking of building a Highball at some point this spring).


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    Really crappy low light picture. My goal with this full housing run was to keep it close to the frame, minimal cable rub, look tidy; straight routing wasn't as important. I decided to route the cable to the opposite side (left) of the headtube. I tried it on the same side (right) but didn't like the result when rotating the bars. Zip tied to the brake housing under the toptube, routed behind the seattube, then cross over almost directly under the mono bridge to the underside of the seatstay, then corkscrew around the top of the seatstay and into the derailleur. The X01 derailleur certainly helps. I have clear protective tape at most frame contact areas.
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    Some slightly better picks of my RD routing. I think the unique features are crossover behind the seattube and using the Jagwire adhesive cable guides - actually 3x under the toptube - and used for the brake line, to which the deraileur cable is attached. The Jagwire guides are designed for use with some cheap plastic clips and I had to remove the center portion of the adhesive pad to make clearance for cable ties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motivated View Post
    Some slightly better picks of my RD routing. I think the unique features are crossover behind the seattube and using the Jagwire adhesive cable guides - actually 3x under the toptube - and used for the brake line, to which the deraileur cable is attached. The Jagwire guides are designed for use with some cheap plastic clips and I had to remove the center portion of the adhesive pad to make clearance for cable ties.
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    For sure these are better pics. Nice ride! whats the weight?

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    For sure these are better pics. Nice ride! whats the weight?
    23.1lb (10.5kg) ready to ride. Size XXL.
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    Snow on the trails is clearing, so I'm getting a better idea of how this bike rides. I'm really enjoying it. The frame is so intuitive - great balance of stiffness and damping. The build concept is awesome so far. Wide rims (I'm converted for life on these), stiff and light wheels, voluminous tires, 1x11. Simple but very versatile and capable climbing, descending, just riding trails. I love the hardtail responsiveness like in a tall gear nailing it up a rocky climb there is no wallow or loss of efficiency. I love the overall lateral stiffness, especially the fork - the Trace with unicrown is a huge improvement over a Fox 32mm

    Only issue so far is the steering. I'd call it a bit darty. I'm not sure if it's the 51mm offset fork, the stem length, or adjusting to wide bars. The steering is sensitive, quick to oversteer and demands a lot of attention. I've had a touch of hand numbness, and my shoulders are sore after riding. I *think* I need to get my weight back a touch. I'll probably switch to a 12deg sweep bar from this 9deg, then a shorter stem.
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    Nice build. Abit unique setup given a racey frame. If you like those bars, try shorter stem first before switching. I know it made a big difference for me when I went wider and from flats.

    Those Derby hoops are nice. With those cushy tires I bet it's a mini fatbike rocket!
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    I'd agree you need a shorter stem. I think the fork is definitely contributing too. The motorcycle front tire probably isn't helping either. But the thing looks sick and would make a fantastic all mountain bike with a short stem.

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    Here's some pics of my HBC. 21 lbs 10 oz with pedals. XL frame size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Cownty Brewer View Post
    Here's some pics of my HBC. 21 lbs 10 oz with pedals. XL frame size.
    Nice build. XX1 N/W ring?
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Cownty Brewer View Post
    Here's some pics of my HBC. 21 lbs 10 oz with pedals. XL frame size.
    What's the lever for on the right side - an uninstalled dropper post?
    Nice build. I bet it's fast and smooth. Are those LB rims - which ones? You can drop a few grams with a WolfTooth direct mount ring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motivated View Post
    What's the lever for on the right side - an uninstalled dropper post?
    Nice build. I bet it's fast and smooth. Are those LB rims - which ones? You can drop a few grams with a WolfTooth direct mount ring.
    The lever is to lock out the fork, but it doesn't completely lock out the fork as intended. There is also an adjustment to the flood gate so I could further dial in the travel if I wanted to. Probably superfluous for me since I am more of a set it and forget it guy when it comes to suspension. I do like the idea of fork lockout though on forest road climbs.

    Those are the LB Bead Hookless Rims. I went with a 28 up front and a 32 in rear. Still went with Hope Hubs, I've been happy with these ever since going with them. I have DT Revo Spokes 3X on Rear, and Straight 14 on Front. The bike shop, was not able to get the Revo Spokes to work on the front with a 28 Spoke. I'm sure many people out there could, but this delayed the build for weeks until I finally just said to get it done.

    Next time I look for a ring, I will most likely look at Wolf Tooth again. If I remember right, they didn't have the 34T in stock at the time I bought this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dry Cownty Brewer View Post
    The lever is to lock out the fork, but it doesn't completely lock out the fork as intended. There is also an adjustment to the flood gate so I could further dial in the travel if I wanted to. Probably superfluous for me since I am more of a set it and forget it guy when it comes to suspension. I do like the idea of fork lockout though on forest road climbs.

    Those are the LB Bead Hookless Rims. I went with a 28 up front and a 32 in rear. Still went with Hope Hubs, I've been happy with these ever since going with them. I have DT Revo Spokes 3X on Rear, and Straight 14 on Front. The bike shop, was not able to get the Revo Spokes to work on the front with a 28 Spoke. I'm sure many people out there could, but this delayed the build for weeks until I finally just said to get it done.

    Next time I look for a ring, I will most likely look at Wolf Tooth again. If I remember right, they didn't have the 34T in stock at the time I bought this one.
    Doh! I completely didn't see the cable connecting to the fork, now it's obvious.
    Nice wheels. Mine are the hookless Derby's - awesome stiffness and like the low pressure without folding the tire over. Can go down to 16psi, but typically ride them at 20psi for confidence at speed over roots and rocks.
    Nice build overall - that's a lot of quality carbon!
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    Digging your 1x and mine too!

    Love that 1x highball man! Here is mine recently upgraded with a new frame as I broke the 2012 frame I originally had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodoljake View Post
    Love that 1x highball man! Here is mine recently upgraded with a new frame as I broke the 2012 frame I originally had.
    Nice Bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motivated View Post
    Some slightly better picks of my RD routing. I think the unique features are crossover behind the seattube and using the Jagwire adhesive cable guides - actually 3x under the toptube - and used for the brake line, to which the deraileur cable is attached. The Jagwire guides are designed for use with some cheap plastic clips and I had to remove the center portion of the adhesive pad to make clearance for cable ties.
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    I just picked up this same frame to build up.... is it built with a full cable housing run front to back? I can't tell from your picture. I'm trying to figure out if I need to buy the cable housing since I have enough for a partial run, but not the full length from shifter to derailleur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    I just picked up this same frame to build up.... is it built with a full cable housing run front to back? I can't tell from your picture. I'm trying to figure out if I need to buy the cable housing since I have enough for a partial run, but not the full length from shifter to derailleur.
    Mine is full housing - the red one - should be clear in the pics. FYI - XX1 shifter comes with full housing. X01 does not come with housing.
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    Thanks.

    I'm a dirtball with an XT setup... no housing come with the parts I buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    Thanks.

    I'm a dirtball with an XT setup... no housing come with the parts I buy.
    To be clear - the frame is not made for full housing - there are cable stops under the toptube. I ran full housing using Jagwire adhesive cable guides (and had to modify them slightly).

    Frankly XT kicks ass. This X01 feels cheap, inconsistent (up vs down) and clunky by comparison - my opinion. The genius of X01 is all in the concept of the cassette. I wish Shimano would do official 1x11 - I really like my home brew XT 1x9, except for the range - haven't tried a cassette adapter yet.
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    With full brake/derailluer housings under the TT you can neatlly gather them by piggybacking them together....done similar on several bikes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Motivated View Post
    To be clear - the frame is not made for full housing - there are cable stops under the toptube. I ran full housing using Jagwire adhesive cable guides (and had to modify them slightly).

    Frankly XT kicks ass. This X01 feels cheap, inconsistent (up vs down) and clunky by comparison - my opinion. The genius of X01 is all in the concept of the cassette. I wish Shimano would do official 1x11 - I really like my home brew XT 1x9, except for the range - haven't tried a cassette adapter yet.
    Gotcha, thanks for clarifying. I'm going to run an XT 1x10 on this just like I have on my other bikes (Bronson and TBc).

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    I am 5'10 with a 32 inseam. it took a little while but finally got my reach and bar height right and this bike rips. with the 90mm stem and 700mm bars that came on the bike the steering just felt wicked fast and the front tire was constantly turning in to fast, I caught myself a bunch of times so luckily I didn't go down. I was also finding myself scrubbing speed going into corners cause I just wasn't confident with the setup. I now have the bars cut down to 660mm just like my specialized epic and am running a 110 stem with the bars a touch lower than my seat. it handles so much different now and slowed the steering down a lot so it won't turn in so fast and lose the front tire.

    I was really close to maybe getting ride of this bike because I just couldn't get the handling dialed. I felt like I was railing turns and not scrubbing speed coming into the corners. much better and much faster.

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    Giro Code High Vis.

    Can someone who has the 2013 frame with the high vis. yellow/green letters, buy these shoes and take a picture of them next to their bike?

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    I wouldn't normally spend $300 on shoes, but if it matches well, I might have to...

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    has anyone try to do a SS conversion with TA rear wheel? i notice SC sells QR SS conversion, i cant find any SS kit for TA model.

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    i have the gray and green frame, the shoe seems to match.

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    Thought I posted here yesterday but can't find it... Anybody find a magic gear for the older frames? I found that 37x17 is perfect, but isn't useable in many situations. 35x19 Is soo close, but I dropped the chain a few times. Anybody have a gear that works? For now, I'm not interested in the philcentric or eno hub. I also loathe tensioners, so if I can't find a useable magic gear, I'll just put on the derailleur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BShow View Post
    Thought I posted here yesterday but can't find it... Anybody find a magic gear for the older frames? I found that 37x17 is perfect, but isn't useable in many situations. 35x19 Is soo close, but I dropped the chain a few times. Anybody have a gear that works? For now, I'm not interested in the philcentric or eno hub. I also loathe tensioners, so if I can't find a useable magic gear, I'll just put on the derailleur.

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    Here are a few I had bookmarked from the post below for when I'm ready to do the same (30x20, 34x20, 31x19 and 29x17). Been looking closely at the Philcentric EBB too but $200 feels a bit steep.

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    Thanks for that. I'm looking for something around 2 - 1. And I haven't gotten close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BShow View Post
    Thought I posted here yesterday but can't find it... Anybody find a magic gear for the older frames? I found that 37x17 is perfect, but isn't useable in many situations. 35x19 Is soo close, but I dropped the chain a few times. Anybody have a gear that works? For now, I'm not interested in the philcentric or eno hub. I also loathe tensioners, so if I can't find a useable magic gear, I'll just put on the derailleur.

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    What's your beef with a tensioner?
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    What's your beef with a tensioner?
    Vanity mostly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motivated View Post
    What's your beef with a tensioner?
    Aside from the piss poor aesthetics; increased drag, drivetrain noise and pain in the ass factor are all reasons that I don't like chain tensioner devices.

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    I think this Salsa posted by Flat Ark looks pretty nice:
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    A few pics of the Highball Carbon build I just finished... unfortunately it's going up for sale because I can't justify keeping it alongside my TallboyC.

    Full XT drivetrain with RaceFace 30t 1x10, Stan's Crest wheelset, Ardent tires, RS Recon Gold fork, CK headset and new Avid brakes. Weighs in around 22 lbs (purely guessing).


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    I think this Salsa posted by Flat Ark looks pretty nice...
    The bike itself Looks nice except for the tensioner and crooked looking chain! I'm also not a fan of the negative rise stem used in conjunction with riser bars(but can appreciate that he may still be dialing in position). While I agree that a tensioner can be an adequate band-aid for not having a SS capable frame, I've yet to see one that looks good In my opinion. If you like the extraneous dong hanging there, hey man... Whatever floats your boat! :-)

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