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    You think the medium size can would offer more compression damping in the mid stroke and offer a better pedaling platform? Do you know where you can buy the medium size cans and is it just a matter of switching out the air can on the same shock?

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    Well I'm giving it trial runs first, and I'll do some back to back tests hopefully soon. It should be just a can switch, unless Fox has made some different damping for the larger volume?! I live in the UK and I believe I can buy pretty much all the parts from Mojo over here, but in the US I don't know. Fox direct or maybe your LBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfrano1978
    So true, as in almost everything in life... cheap dont come easy and you get what you are willing to pay for... In less than a months use Ive had my rear Shimano XT Derailleur retuned twice... I am f....ing tired of ghost shifting when climbing really steep stuff. I was looking for an upgrade to X9 or Shimano XTR. I have no particular preference between Shimano or SRAM, but is the XO really that much different from X9 or XTR which is the best in the Shimano line-up? Is an X9 or X0 compatible with the Front XT Derailleur?
    My new Heckler (see post #64) came with Sram X9 rear derailer and triggers and Shimano XT front derailer (yes they are compatible and work flawlessly). I was strictly a Shimano guy before this bike and now I have to say I am totally converted to the ways of SRAM! The 1:1 ratio is such a breath of fresh air compared to Shimano shifting and like m0ngy says its "click-click" DONE faster and smoother than what I was used to with anything Shimano. I still remember thinking to myself "Are you friggin' kidding me??" the very first time I rode this bike, astonished at how easy and fast and even quiet this setup worked its way through the gears. If I ever do manage to break my derailer you can bet that I will replace it with another X9 immediately no doubt about it. I've thought about upgrading to the X0 but to be honest, the X9 is heaven for me and I really don't see the need.

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    dats what i'm talkin' bout mofo!

    ... and your X9 system will stay accurate over the long haul, just be sure to go back to your lbs after ten or so rides to have the initial cable re-adjustment.

    yeah man, 1:1 is the only way to go. how good is it for climbing!? no more, "Oh-oh!" when you realise you're in the wrong gear, sram loves emergency gear changes. you'll also find that sram rear derailuer is virutally indestructable. my X0 has been on three different bikes, is covered in bash marks and gouges from rocks, and still perfectly accurate. Shimano saw me through more than 10 years of riding and i don't wanna dis them for no reason (they make awesome cranks and disc brakes), but they really gotta lift their game here...
    "You go up the hill, you go down the hill."

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    Just sharing my simple '08 Heckler w/ custom yellow paint.
    Built just right for our local trails, and a pretty excellent climber as well.

    '08 Heckler (medium) w/ Fox Float R
    Shimano SLX groupset
    32 Fox Van R fork
    Shimano MT65 wheelset
    Easton EA70 stem and h.bar
    Thomson Elite setback seatpost
    Chris King headset
    WTB Rocket V (Cro-Mo) saddle
    Kenda Nevegal 2.1" (f and r) tubeless tires
    weight: 29.6 lbs.






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    sweet bike man.

    you need to get it dirty, hecklers like dirt.
    "You go up the hill, you go down the hill."

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    I sold my Heckler last falll..... But I just bought a new one.

    I'm moving my ex1750 wheels, putting on 2.3 tires, and swapping the race face for a thomson stem to lose about 3-4 lbs. My nomad will get all that stuff... Only thing is my nomad is orange and looks awkward with the red DT wheels.






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    Nice bikes,

    both the citrus colored and the dark blue also.

    Id love to have a Revelation 2010, seems like a good fork for the Heckler!

    And red bike with orange wheels will go great! Trust me =)

    I just bought a 2010 Lyrik Coil Uturn for my Heckler last fall. Like that fork too.
    But I am itching to pull the trigger on a Revelation with Maxle seems SO light.

    It would be better for me to invest in a second mountainbike instead. Something like a fast 29er fs. Id LOVE a Tallboy. But financiallly it just wont happen.

    There might be a Epic 29er in there for me in summer...

    Greetings Znarf

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    The revelation is like Marzocchi's 2006/07 AM 1 SL,(a classic fork), only it seems to be stiffer, which was my only complaint about the AM 1. And it seems to be a lot lighter, though I don't have the specs in front of me....

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    Posted her before but saw JayTrees rig had to post mine again. Had to get a near rear swingarm and got black cause the green wasn't available at the time. After I got her built back up I was pleasantly surprised with the way it turned out.

    Hit the trails after the last big snow and the top and middle were fine but the bottom was a bit slick.

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    Another Aussie Heckler

    Heres my 09 Heckler,From Sydney Australia

    Specs:

    09 Heckler (Large) with RP23 shock
    09 RockShox Domains - I love coil forks vs. air forks
    Transition Revolution 32 wheelset
    710mm Raceface bars with 70mm stem
    A mix of x9/xt and race face parts makes up the remainder.

    Future Mods
    The wheels are new so havent made them tubeless yet.
    As this is my "big bike" I want to change out the air shock a coil.
    Go to a 2x9 setup.

    Then it is complete!! Nearly there.

    I have previously ran this as my light bike too with TALAS 32's, lightweight wheelset (hope/ztr's) and longer stem, but to be honest, it was built to be thrashed, and rides sooo much better with the bigger forks and wheels, wider bars and short stem. Have had the bike since october and I love it.

    Justin
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    I have previously ran this as my light bike too with TALAS 32's, lightweight wheelset (hope/ztr's) and longer stem, but to be honest, it was built to be thrashed, and rides sooo much better with the bigger forks and wheels, wider bars and short stem. Have had the bike since october and I love it.
    I went through some iterations of suspension too. Here's my first Heckler... What made it work out was selling it and getting a medium. Though I loved the white most of all!
    All forks were great.

    Fork 1


    Fork 2


    Fork 3


    Fork 4


    Now I'm digging a lighter trail version of the Heckler...
    For long travel I just have this lil old Nomad...
    Not quite springs, nor a Heckler (sorry thread), but It'll do....

    Me Nomad


    ... But now I think I blew the seals on my Revelation on my first ride (shown on my blue Heckler somewhere above in this thread)

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    Just finished building up my new (to me) Heckler.

    2003 Heckler Frame
    2007 Pushed RP23
    Rock Shox Revelation Dual Air 20mm Thru Axle
    Mavic 823 Rims with Hope Pro 2 Hubs
    Maxxis High Roller 2.35 Tubeless Tires w/ Stans Kit
    Origin 8, Bontrager, SRAM, etc.

    Central Mass Fat Tire Club - Look us up on Facebook for weekly ride postings!

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    Me and my Heckler.............
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    Old build



    NEW DHish build



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    ^what kind of cables are those..that are orange?

    Is that the RC4 shock..the rebound adjust is on the opposite side from my DHX 5 coil I believe.

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    Jagwire Ripcord cables - they came in all sorts of colours

    It's a DHX 5

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    Since I had the pic handy from another thread...my little Heckler family.
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    "...the people get the government they deserve..."
    suum quique

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    Finished building the Heckler a few days ago...








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    So does anyone think that the butcher is aimed as a replace for old faithful (the heckler) or can they both coexist happily?

    1 thing I would change on the heckler - tapered head tube

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrowne
    So does anyone think that the butcher is aimed as a replace for old faithful (the heckler) or can they both coexist happily?

    1 thing I would change on the heckler - tapered head tube
    I think I read somewhere that they will not be discontinuing the Superlight and Heckler.

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    With only 150 dollars difference I bet the Heckler starts loosing out on a lot of sales.

    With better suspension and better geometry I'd bet most repeat SC AM buyers would opt for the Butcher, (or Nickel), over a Heckler. I kinda wish they would have just made the Butcher the new Heckler. (if the frame was a 1/2 a pound lighter) Just because it seems like my favorite bike is being "put out to pasture". Yea I know their still gonna sell it, but unless they come out with a new "trick", I wonder how long it will make sense to keep it...

    SC's advances with angular contact bearings, etc. have made multi-pivot bikes much less trouble than they used to be. Plus the APP bikes have all the pivots in a nice tight group so it doesn't seem like one part of the bikes pivots would be over stressed. So the simplicity/lack of maintenance of the single pivot doesn't seem quite so important anymore IMO.

    Maybe they'll "rescue" the Heckler moniker with a Carbon Fiber APP Heckler in a year or two???

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    Probably better to discuss the Butcher and what has already been posted in the below linked thread rather than post in a Heckler photo thread:

    Santa Cruz APP Bikes, Nickel and Butcher

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    lol

    forget it... SC will continue those 2... they are just better...

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    I think I saw some of you here might be running a 2010 Revelation fork on your heckler. Mine crapped out in less then two months. I was wondering if anyone else had problems. Mine started loosing travel all the way to the 120mm mark. I don't even want it fix I want my money back. Caca.
    Your big wheels are so awesome!

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    Fork: RockShox Lyrik Coil U-Turn 20mm - 160mm travel
    Shock: Fox DHX 5.0 Coil
    Rear Derailleur: SRAM X.9 Long Cage
    Front Derailleur: Shimano SLX
    Shifters: SRAM X.7 triggers
    Crankset: TruVativ Stylo w/ Giga X Drive
    Headset: Syncros Hardcore AM
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 5 [Front / Rear] 185mm/160mm
    Front Wheel: DT Swiss FR 6.10 Wheel with Marzocchi Q20 Hub.
    Rear Wheel: Mavic 321 rim w/ Shimano XT hubs, DT 14 gauge spokes, brass nipples
    Handlebars: Race Face Evolve All Mountain low riser, 31.8mm
    Stem: Race Face Evolve DH 50mm
    Grips: Lizard Skin Charger
    Seat Post: Race Face Evolve XC
    Tires: Switch off between Kenda Nevegal 2.35 and WTB Dissent 2.5.

    NEW BARS AND GRIPS COMING SOON!

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    My Small 08 Heckler

    I painted the Recon fork white to match the bike color. All the decals have been removed because I bought the frame used ($560!!!) and the decals were crappy. I got replacement decals from SC but now I'm reluctant to put them on since the bike looks so clean unlabeled. I ended up with a tiny SC decal on the top tube and the S man head tube emblem. BTW, my Nomad buddy said it looks stealthy and hard to distinguish because it's the small frame and doesn't have the top tube bend of the bigger frames.
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    Here's mine:


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    wow, did you have it resprayed that colour? candy apple red.... it's all shiny and new looking.
    "You go up the hill, you go down the hill."

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    The previous owner had it repainted. Come to think of it, yes it's a sweet Ferrari red!

    It was lucky (prolly fate) that I picked red accents on the Haro Shift I was building up. When I saw the frame I sold my Haro and jumped at it.

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    I'm not a huge fan of the SC red, but that colour is sweet!

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    My new toy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaptheman
    Here's mine:

    awesome Heckler!!! What wheels/rims are those? sweet looking!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stiingya
    awesome Heckler!!! What wheels/rims are those? sweet looking!!!
    Thanks! On days I can't ride, I can spend hours just staring at my bike. She's a beauty (or I'm pathetic ). Those rims are made by FireEye:
    http://www.fireeye-bike.com/rim_excelerant_lt.htm

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    Headtube badged & Holzfeller'd :



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    it's too clean, you need to get out on the trails more often.
    "You go up the hill, you go down the hill."

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    New upgrades : joplin 4, kcnc jockey wheel, gravity light stem, rf diabolus dh handlebar








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    Quote Originally Posted by m0ngy
    it's too clean, you need to get out on the trails more often.
    tell that to my wife

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    Santa Cruz Heckler 2011 Lime Green

    My new toy.....

    Santa Cruz Hecker ( 2011 ) Lime Green

    Fox Float RP23 rear Shock with Boost Valve

    Rock Shox Revelation Team with 20mm Maxle Lite

    Roval Traversee Tubeless Wheelset with Hutchinson 'El toro' Tubeless Tires ( 2.35" Front, 2.15" rear )

    Shimano SLX Chainset

    SRAM X9 Gear Shifters

    SRAM X9 Rear Mech

    Shimano XT Front Mech

    Shimano XT Chain

    SRAM 980 Cassette

    Hayes Stroker Trail Disc Brakes with 180mm Rotors and braided hoses

    Goodridge / Avid Flak Jacket Sealed Gear Cables

    Easton Monkey Lite EC70 675mm Carbon Bars

    Thomson Elite Seatpost ( 30.9mm )

    Thomson Elite 80mm Stem

    Hope Bottom Bracket with Ceramic Bearings

    Hope 1-1/8" Headset

    Superstar Lock-on Grips

    SDG Bel Air RL Ti railed Saddle
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    Green Machine!








    2009 size Large (Gangrene)
    Sram XO Grip**** shifters
    Sram XO Rear derailleur
    XT Crankset (32/22)
    XT cassette (11-34)
    Chris King Headset
    2010 Saint brakes 8" front and rear
    DT Swiss 51.D Rims on DT Swiss FR2350 Hubs
    2008 RS Pike Dual Air U-Turn (Soon to be replaced with a 2008 66 RC3)
    Fox DHX Air 3.0
    Easton EA70 Riser
    Thompson Elite Stem 100MM
    Race Face Deus Seat post
    WTB Devo seat (this is next on the upgrade list)

    So far the Heckler has been the best bike I have ever owned, a true do it all machine.
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    The bikes only a couple weeks old but its working out to be just what I was after... an everyday mountain bike that can be flung of stuff when I feel like it

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    Some changes. Blue Moto res caps!!!!

    ...and a 2011 Fox 36 Talas RLC 160


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    My Heckler

    MY Heckler Spec as follows 2010 model

    Rockshox Totem 2010 running 30% sag
    Fox DHX5.0 Rear shock
    Spinergy Fall Line wheel build super strong and light and expensive http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...-freeride-9857
    Saint Crankset
    Sram X0 Shifters
    Sram X0 Rear mech
    Titanium Rear Cassette
    Hope tech 4pots running 203mm rotors front and back all fully goodriged
    Sunline V1 Stem
    Thomson Seatpost
    Wtb Carbon & Titanium saddle
    Syncros S/Steel pedals
    King Headset.


    This rides superb i nail nomads for fun ( Fast and on the edge thats how i roll man )
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    Quote Originally Posted by anth1968
    MY Heckler
    What fork is that. You sir may have my favorite Heckler (besides mine of course).
    X-prezo Super-D, 26in style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by y0bailey
    What fork is that. You sir may have my favorite Heckler (besides mine of course).

    Rockshox Totem running 30% sag awesome, ive blown so many fox 36s there just a waste of time .

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    Paging weescott.

    How are the 36 Talas on that, I'm currently running a 32 Talas 140 and very close to changing to the 2011 160.

    How does it ride on both settings 160/120? I always find 120 on the 32 Talas a bit draggy but the 36 are longer.

    Can't decide on whether to go Float 32 150 or Talas 36 160 so any info appreciated.

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    I have only had a quick go on them. But coming from the 08 36 Talas they should be awesome. 160 can feel sluggish on some xc trails but is great for DH. I used to use 100mm for super steep climbs and 130 for techy climbs where pedal strikes were an issue at 100mm. So 120mm wil be a compromise. A friend had the 140mm 32s and said they sucked for DH. It felt like the bike was disapearing under him. I have ridden the 150 32s and find them noticibly flexier than the 36s. Without a doubt the 36's are better than the 32s on the Heckler. And fyi the Kashima coating is smooooooth. .

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    Some more changes...

    Some minor changes since I last posted.
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    Now that is one serious Heckler. I see you have an eye for detail, with matching reservoir caps/headset/fork controls, very nice. Love the gold anodized of those '11 stanchions, siiiiik. Now ride boy, RIDE, like your life depended on it!
    "You go up the hill, you go down the hill."

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