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    Heckler 26,... now 29er! :-)

    Heckler 2009, 222mm DHX 5, 1 X 9, Boxxer forks with the brace chopped out (dropped crown),
    .... tyres do not contact the seat tube or fork bottom crown
    i fell in love with it on the first ride
    ... no more pedal strikes for me!

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    ...Not for the squeamish!!
    20mm bolt through and dual crown keeps it stiff ...

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    Hmm...seems like a bad idea.
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    Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

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    whoa. that is....inventive... how does the rear tire not hit the seat tube???? it looks like itll hit even at like half travel....

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    BB looks freakishly high......

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    make it stop

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    Curious... what type of riding is that used for?
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    Doesn't the fork arch have multiple reasons for being there?
    1. Stiffness. A 20mm through axle and double crown will help, but that middle attachment is huge when it comes to stiffness.
    2. To some extent, wouldn't the legs would operate independently? At least for forks where one side is the spring and one is the damper?
    3. There is no way that suspension engineers have more knowledge about their products than you do right?
    4. Is this trolling?
    5. I really hope this is just trolling.
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    That BB is hilariously high. But well done for being creative!!

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    Check in after you case a jump and that fork folds up like a cheap suit. The roughest riding I would do on that bike might be a golf path. Good luck.
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    Crazy sauce. Lay off the doobies br0!

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    2. To some extent, wouldn't the legs would operate independently? At least for forks where one side is the spring and one is the damper?



    ........your shitting me right?

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    I did a conversion similar to this one time(but without the hacksaw). The BB was so high it was like I looking at the trail from Google Earth.

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    Looks like an intense 6.6....

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    Remove the SC decals, and people will think you're riding a super top-secret AM test mule!!

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    heckler - check!
    Boxxer - check!
    29er wheels - check!
    Hacksaw - check!
    Good medical and dental plans - check?
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    Full face helmet bro.
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    Definitely one of the most insane things I've seen on these forums.

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    Please post pics after the accident that leads you to the understanding that you probably shouldn't have done that.

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    Hmmm, seems legit?



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    Aside from the butchered fork, the BB is higher than the axles, do the math, it ain't good.
    Maybe you can run 50% sag with all that extra travel and end up OK? Or not.

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    Whatever drug you're on is a hell of a thing.

    But please tell us it's a coffee/bar/bike party/stoopid bike

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    Are you taking too much advantage of the recently legalized recreational pot law in CO?

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    Stuff.

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    Its only January and we already have the post of the year
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEY HEY ITS HENDO View Post
    ... no more pedal strikes for me!
    Understatement of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoney22 View Post
    Understatement of the year.
    I think it was done for the recycle value of what was removed!

    OMG take the SC stickers off for sure......
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by danridesbikes View Post
    2. To some extent, wouldn't the legs would operate independently? At least for forks where one side is the spring and one is the damper?



    ........your shitting me right?
    The legs might do more independently, regardless of one leg having the spring. Have you ever checked out the twisting of the legs on an older set of inverted DH forks? Also, even though the forks were single crown the I have seen in person and in photos, a 20mm thru axle didn't stop failure when arches broke.
    Then again, it may just end up a sloppy steering fork, or be just fine.
    I hope we hear back from the OP either way once some time has been put on the set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronk View Post
    The legs might do more independently, regardless of one leg having the spring. Have you ever checked out the twisting of the legs on an older set of inverted DH forks? Also, even though the forks were single crown the I have seen in person and in photos, a 20mm thru axle didn't stop failure when arches broke.
    Then again, it may just end up a sloppy steering fork, or be just fine.
    I hope we hear back from the OP either way once some time has been put on the set up.
    We have not heard from the OP bc:

    A. He is terribly embarassed
    B. That death contraption failed in every way imaginable leaving him incapable of responding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEY HEY ITS HENDO View Post
    ... no more pedal strikes for me!
    Learning how to ride properly and timing your pedal strokes would have been way cheaper and far less flexy.


    ...does it come in rootbeer?
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    ...this is the best thread ever! MacGyver called, he wants his bike back! And he's pissed!!

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    Heckler 26,... now 29er!  :-)-8a853ea3280a7d9cdcade330e15f98fa651a813ab022bfb2190b9cdfe6934fc7.jpg

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    im thinking this has to be a joke. no one would actually do that. im guessing he had an old dual crown fork that doesnt work anymore lying around and decided to play a joke. no way that the rear wheel doesnt hit the seat tube after about 3 inches of travel, and no way that 'modified' fork will last a single drop off a curb.

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    I love it!!


    That is one cool bike!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover View Post
    Learning how to ride properly and timing your pedal strokes would have been way cheaper and far less flexy.


    ...does it come in rootbeer?
    I believe that Santa Cruz's version of that color was called - and insanely appropriate here - skid mark.


    Learning how to ride has nothing to do with wanting enough BB clearance to ride your local trails. I hear this crap all the time on the inter-web, and it is a joke. If you have to focus part of your brain on where your pedals are, you are compromising.
    That being said, the OP's solution is a bit over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rglsr View Post
    Aside from the butchered fork, the BB is higher than the axles, do the math, it ain't good.
    Unless I've missed something, he hasn't altered where the axles and BB are on the frame...

    On a separate note, those photos were date stamped in Sep - I genuinely want the OP to give us an update (although I suspect it was a spoof with a fork bust beyond repair...)

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    time stamp for the fork cutting is right, however the OP lost the axle, so it was November before it was built, which is the time stamp on the bike pic if you click it and look closely

    i think he's 200+ miles in, ok he's not hucking or doing massive downhill runs but works fine though,

    no tyre/seat tube interference - the cable guide on the seat tube was removed

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    Quote Originally Posted by biker99 View Post
    Unless I've missed something, he hasn't altered where the axles and BB are on the frame...

    On a separate note, those photos were date stamped in Sep - I genuinely want the OP to give us an update (although I suspect it was a spoof with a fork bust beyond repair...)

    I think you're missing something, basic frame geometry....
    Longer I2I on rear shock = higher rear axle in relationship to bb. Single pivot rear triangle moves rear axle down in relationship to bb as shock length increases.
    Longer travel front fork/increased axle to crown = higher bb period, axle height remains constant (in relationship to ground) bb height increases as front travel/axle to crown height increases.
    Even with the 29" wheels effectively raising the axle height in relationship to the ground, that bb is ridiculously high....Check out a 29" frame, the bb has much more "drop" to maintain appropriate bb height.

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    ....... will i die?

    Even with the 29" wheels effectively raising the axle height in relationship to the ground, that bb is ridiculously high....Check out a 29" frame, the bb has much more "drop" to maintain appropriate bb height
    ..would you care to expand on your sweeping statement?
    you could teach us all about bottom bracket height,
    why it should be where you think it should be
    advantages/disadvantages etc etc

    Cheers, Graham
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEY HEY ITS HENDO View Post
    ..would you care to expand on your sweeping statement?
    you could teach us all about bottom bracket height,
    why it should be where you think it should be
    advantages/disadvantages etc etc

    Cheers, Graham
    Don't get me wrong, I like the crazy factor here, not trying to be a dick. A higher bb does effect the handling of the bike, 13-13.5" is fairly common for a mid travel FS frame (26, 27.5 and 29 inch) these days. Hey at least you won't have to worry about pedal strikes and run your seat low so you can put your feet on the ground....

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    Apology accepted!

    A higher bb does affect the handling of the bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    I believe that Santa Cruz's version of that color was called - and insanely appropriate here - skid mark.


    Learning how to ride has nothing to do with wanting enough BB clearance to ride your local trails. I hear this crap all the time on the inter-web, and it is a joke. If you have to focus part of your brain on where your pedals are, you are compromising.
    That being said, the OP's solution is a bit over the top.
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    Kill it with fire!

    Reminds me of a time when I saw a dude with a monster T on a Rock Vertex XC hardtail. Like your headtube much? Didn't think so.

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    OP probably is in the ICU after front tire plowed into the lower crown on the first big hit he took.

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    I demand a video of a rocky descent!
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    Calmer'n you are.

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