• 01-06-2014
    HEY HEY ITS HENDO
    3 Attachment(s)
    Heckler 26,... now 29er! :-)
    Heckler 2009, 222mm DHX 5, 1 X 9, Boxxer forks with the brace chopped out (dropped crown),
    .... tyres do not contact the seat tube or fork bottom crown
    i fell in love with it on the first ride :thumbsup:
    ... no more pedal strikes for me!

    Attachment 860547

    ...click for higher res.
  • 01-06-2014
    HEY HEY ITS HENDO
    3 Attachment(s)
    ...Not for the squeamish!!
    20mm bolt through and dual crown keeps it stiff ...

    Attachment 860585

    Attachment 860586

    Attachment 860587
  • 01-07-2014
    Warshade
    Hmm...seems like a bad idea.
  • 01-07-2014
    smmokan
    Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
  • 01-07-2014
    sooner518
    whoa. that is....inventive... how does the rear tire not hit the seat tube???? it looks like itll hit even at like half travel....
  • 01-07-2014
    expatrider
    BB looks freakishly high......
  • 01-07-2014
    scmalex
    make it stop
  • 01-07-2014
    moefosho
    Curious... what type of riding is that used for?
  • 01-07-2014
    moefosho
    Doesn't the fork arch have multiple reasons for being there?
    1. Stiffness. A 20mm through axle and double crown will help, but that middle attachment is huge when it comes to stiffness.
    2. To some extent, wouldn't the legs would operate independently? At least for forks where one side is the spring and one is the damper?
    3. There is no way that suspension engineers have more knowledge about their products than you do right?
    4. Is this trolling?
    5. I really hope this is just trolling.
  • 01-07-2014
    Steve.E
    That BB is hilariously high. But well done for being creative!!
  • 01-07-2014
    HELLBELLY
    Check in after you case a jump and that fork folds up like a cheap suit. The roughest riding I would do on that bike might be a golf path. Good luck. :skep::devil:
  • 01-07-2014
    Yama Arashi
    Crazy sauce. Lay off the doobies br0!
  • 01-07-2014
    danridesbikes
    2. To some extent, wouldn't the legs would operate independently? At least for forks where one side is the spring and one is the damper?



    ........your shitting me right?
  • 01-07-2014
    Flip D
    I did a conversion similar to this one time(but without the hacksaw). The BB was so high it was like I looking at the trail from Google Earth.
  • 01-07-2014
    eurospek
  • 01-07-2014
    Salespunk
    Looks like an intense 6.6....
  • 01-07-2014
    GardenGnome
    Remove the SC decals, and people will think you're riding a super top-secret AM test mule!!
  • 01-07-2014
    bog
    heckler - check!
    Boxxer - check!
    29er wheels - check!
    Hacksaw - check!
    Good medical and dental plans - check?
  • 01-07-2014
    mlx john
    Full face helmet bro.
  • 01-07-2014
    hillharman
    Definitely one of the most insane things I've seen on these forums.
  • 01-08-2014
    zod
  • 01-08-2014
    tangaroo
    Please post pics after the accident that leads you to the understanding that you probably shouldn't have done that.
  • 01-08-2014
    wyatt79m
    Hmmm, seems legit?



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  • 01-08-2014
    rglsr
    Aside from the butchered fork, the BB is higher than the axles, do the math, it ain't good.
    Maybe you can run 50% sag with all that extra travel and end up OK? Or not.
  • 01-08-2014
    OGRipper
    Whatever drug you're on is a hell of a thing.

    But please tell us it's a coffee/bar/bike party/stoopid bike
  • 01-08-2014
    Motosc
    Are you taking too much advantage of the recently legalized recreational pot law in CO?
  • 01-08-2014
    dropmachine.com
  • 01-09-2014
    Stupendous Man
    Its only January and we already have the post of the year
  • 01-09-2014
    Hwy49er
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HEY HEY ITS HENDO View Post
    ... no more pedal strikes for me!

    Understatement of the year.
  • 01-09-2014
    JMac47
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stoney22 View Post
    Understatement of the year.

    I think it was done for the recycle value of what was removed!

    OMG take the SC stickers off for sure......
  • 01-09-2014
    Kronk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danridesbikes View Post
    2. To some extent, wouldn't the legs would operate independently? At least for forks where one side is the spring and one is the damper?



    ........your shitting me right?

    The legs might do more independently, regardless of one leg having the spring. Have you ever checked out the twisting of the legs on an older set of inverted DH forks? Also, even though the forks were single crown the I have seen in person and in photos, a 20mm thru axle didn't stop failure when arches broke.
    Then again, it may just end up a sloppy steering fork, or be just fine.
    I hope we hear back from the OP either way once some time has been put on the set up.
  • 01-09-2014
    tangaroo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kronk View Post
    The legs might do more independently, regardless of one leg having the spring. Have you ever checked out the twisting of the legs on an older set of inverted DH forks? Also, even though the forks were single crown the I have seen in person and in photos, a 20mm thru axle didn't stop failure when arches broke.
    Then again, it may just end up a sloppy steering fork, or be just fine.
    I hope we hear back from the OP either way once some time has been put on the set up.

    We have not heard from the OP bc:

    A. He is terribly embarassed
    B. That death contraption failed in every way imaginable leaving him incapable of responding.
  • 01-09-2014
    scrublover
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HEY HEY ITS HENDO View Post
    ... no more pedal strikes for me!

    Learning how to ride properly and timing your pedal strokes would have been way cheaper and far less flexy.


    ...does it come in rootbeer?
  • 01-09-2014
    GardenGnome
    ...this is the best thread ever! MacGyver called, he wants his bike back! And he's pissed!!
  • 01-10-2014
    markymark
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  • 01-10-2014
    TAOS1
    1 Attachment(s)
    Attachment 861500


    :eekster::eekster::eekster:
  • 01-10-2014
    sooner518
    im thinking this has to be a joke. no one would actually do that. im guessing he had an old dual crown fork that doesnt work anymore lying around and decided to play a joke. no way that the rear wheel doesnt hit the seat tube after about 3 inches of travel, and no way that 'modified' fork will last a single drop off a curb.
  • 01-13-2014
    Fuglio
    I love it!!


    That is one cool bike!!

    <Img src=http://toonbarn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Rigby-and-Mordecai-are-out.jpg>
  • 01-13-2014
    reformed roadie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scrublover View Post
    Learning how to ride properly and timing your pedal strokes would have been way cheaper and far less flexy.


    ...does it come in rootbeer?

    I believe that Santa Cruz's version of that color was called - and insanely appropriate here - skid mark.


    Learning how to ride has nothing to do with wanting enough BB clearance to ride your local trails. I hear this crap all the time on the inter-web, and it is a joke. If you have to focus part of your brain on where your pedals are, you are compromising.
    That being said, the OP's solution is a bit over the top.
  • 01-15-2014
    biker99
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rglsr View Post
    Aside from the butchered fork, the BB is higher than the axles, do the math, it ain't good.

    Unless I've missed something, he hasn't altered where the axles and BB are on the frame...

    On a separate note, those photos were date stamped in Sep - I genuinely want the OP to give us an update (although I suspect it was a spoof with a fork bust beyond repair...)
  • 01-15-2014
    danridesbikes
    time stamp for the fork cutting is right, however the OP lost the axle, so it was November before it was built, which is the time stamp on the bike pic if you click it and look closely

    i think he's 200+ miles in, ok he's not hucking or doing massive downhill runs but works fine though,

    no tyre/seat tube interference - the cable guide on the seat tube was removed
  • 01-15-2014
    rglsr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by biker99 View Post
    Unless I've missed something, he hasn't altered where the axles and BB are on the frame...

    On a separate note, those photos were date stamped in Sep - I genuinely want the OP to give us an update (although I suspect it was a spoof with a fork bust beyond repair...)


    I think you're missing something, basic frame geometry....
    Longer I2I on rear shock = higher rear axle in relationship to bb. Single pivot rear triangle moves rear axle down in relationship to bb as shock length increases.
    Longer travel front fork/increased axle to crown = higher bb period, axle height remains constant (in relationship to ground) bb height increases as front travel/axle to crown height increases.
    Even with the 29" wheels effectively raising the axle height in relationship to the ground, that bb is ridiculously high....Check out a 29" frame, the bb has much more "drop" to maintain appropriate bb height.
  • 01-15-2014
    HEY HEY ITS HENDO
    ....... will i die?
    Quote:

    Even with the 29" wheels effectively raising the axle height in relationship to the ground, that bb is ridiculously high....Check out a 29" frame, the bb has much more "drop" to maintain appropriate bb height
    ..would you care to expand on your sweeping statement?
    you could teach us all about bottom bracket height,
    why it should be where you think it should be
    advantages/disadvantages etc etc

    Cheers, Graham
  • 01-15-2014
    rglsr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HEY HEY ITS HENDO View Post
    ..would you care to expand on your sweeping statement?
    you could teach us all about bottom bracket height,
    why it should be where you think it should be
    advantages/disadvantages etc etc

    Cheers, Graham

    Don't get me wrong, I like the crazy factor here, not trying to be a dick. A higher bb does effect the handling of the bike, 13-13.5" is fairly common for a mid travel FS frame (26, 27.5 and 29 inch) these days. Hey at least you won't have to worry about pedal strikes and run your seat low so you can put your feet on the ground....
  • 01-15-2014
    HEY HEY ITS HENDO
    Apology accepted! :thumbsup:

    Quote:

    A higher bb does affect the handling of the bike
    :madman:
  • 01-15-2014
    scrublover
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    I believe that Santa Cruz's version of that color was called - and insanely appropriate here - skid mark.


    Learning how to ride has nothing to do with wanting enough BB clearance to ride your local trails. I hear this crap all the time on the inter-web, and it is a joke. If you have to focus part of your brain on where your pedals are, you are compromising.
    That being said, the OP's solution is a bit over the top.

    Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!
  • 02-02-2014
    Derp
    Kill it with fire!

    Reminds me of a time when I saw a dude with a monster T on a Rock Vertex XC hardtail. Like your headtube much? Didn't think so.
  • 02-02-2014
    Acme54321
    OP probably is in the ICU after front tire plowed into the lower crown on the first big hit he took.
  • 02-02-2014
    chuckeieio
    I demand a video of a rocky descent! :thumbsup:
  • 02-02-2014
    disgustipated
  • 02-02-2014
    mtbgaijin
    My crystal ball sees painful things in your future.
  • 02-02-2014
    Jim311
    Fantastic. I'm sure there's no reason for that half inch thick piece of metal anyway, probably just something the lawyers at Rockshox made them put on.
  • 02-02-2014
    rotten1
    You have a way to go before you achieve this level of greatness:

    WOW!!! What A Bike!!! Totally Custom
  • 02-02-2014
    Hobine
    Heckler 26,... now 29er! :-)
    Lefties are good forks, so this should be twice as good right?
  • 02-02-2014
    juancho142
    I'm guessing REDALP bikes' designers will be stoked with this.

    You should think this through. You will die riding this.
  • 02-02-2014
    MAFIA
    maybe you get to far 26 to 29 new 27.5 fork will do it loool
  • 02-02-2014
    Fluidworks
    This is glorious. We need a ride update ASAP. The hospital will have WiFi for you to use.
  • 02-02-2014
    mlx john
    Did he died?
  • 02-02-2014
    tangaroo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mlx john View Post
    Did he died?

    Wut?
  • 02-02-2014
    bluesbiker
    Love it. Hope it works for you. If not, can I have what's left of your wheels?
  • 02-02-2014
    NorthSideOf50
    If it were me, I would have gone 650b and changed out the front shock to a Fox as most of them will clear:thumbsup:. It would be interesting if he would do a Go Pro of his front fork and measure the flex.
  • 02-03-2014
    SHIVER ME TIMBERS
    looks flexy
  • 02-03-2014
    doakwolf
    LOL geo looks spot on ;)
  • 02-03-2014
    dfiler
    It's probably just at the powder coater to get the fork touched up after sawing.

    Gotta say, nice job covering the stanchions with tape. That'll save them from getting scored up by the metal shavings.
  • 02-03-2014
    Bikinfol
    This is definitely for lateral stability, as you go around a sharp turn the shock on the outside (relative to the turn) will compress more than the inside. hitting any rocks while in the turn will reduce your control. With a Dual crown, this will be less noticeable, but the stress on the bushings will be too great and probably by the end of this season you will need to service it.
  • 02-03-2014
    SkepticCycles
    1 Attachment(s)
    Badder Ass
    That's almost as nice as this one:
    Attachment 867041
    WOW!!! What A Bike!!! Totally Custom
  • 02-03-2014
    Sahagún
    I would like to watch a video of your hecker in action
  • 02-03-2014
    J-Ha
    I'm having trouble getting over that first image of the sawzall in action... Yeah, the one where the thumb is under the blade.
  • 02-03-2014
    juancho142
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  • 02-03-2014
    juancho142
  • 02-03-2014
    rsaulte
    hell yes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by HEY HEY ITS HENDO View Post
    Heckler 2009, 222mm DHX 5, 1 X 9, Boxxer forks with the brace chopped out (dropped crown),
    .... tyres do not contact the seat tube or fork bottom crown
    i fell in love with it on the first ride :thumbsup:
    ... no more pedal strikes for me!

    Attachment 860547

    ...click for higher res.

    Its a great idea the bad ass rock shock can take it. The crown will bearly clear a 26 in tire...now the fork is fit for service, maybe even a 26x2.40
  • 02-03-2014
    omini
    But will it bend?

    Seriously, under braking, latteral forces of the wheel, bigger wheel, longer lever...
    If it's a good idea all the weight weenies would be sawing their lowers to shed a couple grams.
  • 02-03-2014
    danridesbikes
    Quote:

    Your obviously trolling with that front derailleur though
    the front mech is functioning as a chainguide
  • 02-03-2014
    MTBeing
    Heckler 26,... now 29er! :-)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by expatrider View Post
    bb looks freakishly high......

    Yea! Take it to Rampage next year.
  • 02-03-2014
    KrisRayner
    Heckler 26,... now 29er! :-)
    I was kinda hoping to see V brakes....you know, for the weight savings.
  • 02-03-2014
    steven_first
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  • 02-04-2014
    Hercule de FooFoo
    1 Attachment(s)
    Fixed it
    The problem with this thread is that all those haters are just not innovators. See, I fixed it. Removing the brace wasn't the problem, not putting it back in was the problem!

    Rigidity restored and no chance of death.

    Attachment 867220
  • 02-04-2014
    Sahagún
    I could recommend you a good dentist
  • 02-04-2014
    exp18
    All the haters out there are just jealous because they don't have the Balls to try this! I say Go Man Go
  • 02-04-2014
    zutroy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by exp18 View Post
    All the haters out there are just jealous because they don't have the Balls to try this! I say Go Man Go

    Yeah, it's called intelligence. Could be one of the stupidest ideas I've ever seen.
  • 02-04-2014
    cl.mustard
    Jesus Christ.
  • 02-04-2014
    lubes17319
    There are currently 2616 users browsing this thread.

    HEY HEY ITS HENDO is on the list, so at least he didn't died.
  • 02-04-2014
    Yama Arashi
    This thread is making the rounds on facebook via all the various bike specific pages.

    Shit pile is getting deeper!
  • 02-04-2014
    wholesalestunna
    I'm not going to hate, and admire your creativity. Definitely creative and ballsy. I'm looking forward to seeing how it works out.
  • 02-04-2014
    dfiler
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lubes17319 View Post
    There are currently 2616 users browsing this thread.

    HEY HEY ITS HENDO is on the list, so at least he didn't died.

    If he dies, it will be from lethal fit of laughing.
  • 02-04-2014
    bollingbroke
    But guys! They don't have braces in gta 5, so it must be fine!
  • 02-04-2014
    rodgerdodger
    Just for the record, a white brothers groove 200 and Manitou Dorado can both be set up 29er without a hacksaw
  • 02-04-2014
    rockhop
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lubes17319 View Post
    There are currently 2616 users browsing this thread.

    HEY HEY ITS HENDO is on the list, so at least he didn't died.

    That's because he's trolling. Hard to type with only one hand free.
  • 02-05-2014
    dfiler
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rodgerdodger View Post
    Just for the record, a white brothers groove 200 and Manitou Dorado can both be set up 29er without a hacksaw

    Oh I could so totally use a hacksaw to 29erize one of those forks too. Not a bad idea actually.
  • 02-05-2014
    2poormtnbkr
    Jra
  • 02-06-2014
    juancho142
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lubes17319 View Post
    There are currently 2616 users browsing this thread.

    HEY HEY ITS HENDO is on the list, so at least he didn't died.

    YET. He didn't die YET.
  • 02-09-2014
    Johnclimber
    It's all gone a bit quiet on here, did he survive?
  • 02-10-2014
    Morpheous
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danridesbikes View Post
    2. To some extent, wouldn't the legs would operate independently? At least for forks where one side is the spring and one is the damper?



    ........your shitting me right?


    No, this is correct. the axle alone is not enough to keep the legs in sync.
  • 05-14-2014
    doezel
    Any news on this?
  • 05-14-2014
    HEY HEY ITS HENDO
    ...:thumbsup: still kickin`ass!
    daily commuting,
    weekly local rides
    couple of full days out on the trails
    same components, changed / adjusted nothing at all !!
    Great thread eh,
    ... all the `we know less than nothing` comments gave me a RIGHT laugh! :D :D
  • 06-03-2014
    moefosho
    Glad to see you are still alive.
  • 09-09-2014
    danridesbikes
    nah, he picked a satnav up from me last week
  • 09-09-2014
    rotten1
    That may be why he hasn't responded in a while...
  • 06-04-2015
    HEY HEY ITS HENDO
    . . . . . . not dead yet!!
    1st post updated with action pic!
    only component change is 222mm DHX Air
    yep, still alive with all my teeth!! lol :thumbsup:
  • 06-04-2015
    capoz77
    I endorse this thread!