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    Fond goodbye to my Tallboy, Epic next

    I've been ridding a Tallboy for 2 years, since before there were letters after the name. I came from a Rip9 but that's another story.

    I really liked the Tallboy but wasn't 100% happy with the rear shock. I started with the stock Rp23 and had too much mid stroke wallow. I think what really effected me was riding a single speed hardtail half the time. I found I was always using the platform and I came to want a firmer and firmer feel. I didn't notice or care about pedal bob and am not an mtb racer but was annoyed by a wallowy feel. I switched to an RT3 Monarch about a year ago to get more platform and it was better but with both shocks I kept upping the pressure for a firmer feel. I also liked how the bike rode with less sag while climbing. The downside was not using 3/8" of the shock travel and it was fairly harsh on rough downhills. I was considering buying a Pushed RT3 but they are difficult* to get and expensive. A Monarch XX with full lockout was another option.

    Instead I gave in and bought an inexpensive used 2012 Epic alloy frame. For the feel I want it's better. With the brain 2 clicks from full on it's firm while pumping smooth terrain but opens up on rough downhills to be much plusher than my Tallboy was. However I can't imagine buying a Horst link bike without the brain as it has so much pedal bob without the the brain set high. A DW link bike with the brain would be a winner in my book. I also plan to send the shock to specialized yearly for service but will probably try to get a 2014 carbon Epic frame at some point.
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    "Big Gulps huh?...Allllriggghhht....Welp, See ya later!"

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    Until patents run out on the brain and DW link, you will never get that bike.
    Grit, spit, and a whole lot of duct tape!

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    Hmmmm......I split my time from my Tallboy and a Highball SS. Doesn't seem to be a problem for me.....and I actually spend more time on the SS.
    I crashed hard enough on my Tallboy to break my leg,
    The carbon is way more durable than most people.

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    While I'm sure not many people are looking for the same outcome I am, somewhere someone is, so this is my bread crumb trail. I've been on full suspension since my Proflex 855 followed by a bunch of others and used to prefer fully active followed by various short links. When I first heard of the Brain thing I thought it was unnecessary but things change.
    I wonder if I'll tire of the Brain thing before the patent runs out?
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    I appreciate the perspective. I've demoed the XXL TB, and my brother owns one as well, and it does seem to wallow a bit for my taste. Nice bike, but not quite the pedaling performance I was looking for. I ended up with a DW Mojo, which has the pedaling characteristics that I was looking for. I do have a flexible rear shock, with open, strong platform, and lockout, which makes the bike even more versatile. I also have a HT Santa Cruz, so I'm a fan of the brand, and I really appreciate that they make some big bikes for us tall folk.

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