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    Dropper post on a Tallboy C?

    Anyone running a dropper post on their Tallboy C? Which model? How do you like it? Bonus for pics!

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    I running a KS LEV on my Tallboy LTc and love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwick37 View Post
    I running a KS LEV on my Tallboy LTc and love it.
    Looks great, that is the one that I have been eyeballing! How is the cable attached to the top tube? Does it have a quick disconnect to remove the post or am I seeing things?

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    Oh, the LTc has the cable stops for a dropper post. I have the original TB, so no stops. Anyone have one on their TBc?

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    I have had my TallboyC since last August with the dropper post. I have the Reverb on it. I love having a dropper. I put one on my Tallboy cause it is my one bike that I use for everything. I have had some problems with this Reverb, but it is working right now. We will see how it holds in St George this weekend. My next dropper will be the KS Lev. Have heard nothing but good about them. If you are using your Tallboy for more than just hard XC riding/racing like I do, then I recommend a dropper.Dropper post on a Tallboy C?-image.jpg

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    Mine is set up 'Moab XC' It's got a gravity dropper now. Riding without a dropper post is 100% not an option now. It roughly equivalent to riding without disc brakes. Oh, and my TalboyC has cable guides for a dropper post. What year is yours?
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    Thanks guys. Mine is a 2012 model with QR rear. I do have a stop at the front of the top tube, but it looks different than the one on your frame. I will have to look at it a little closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfs69 View Post
    Thanks guys. Mine is a 2012 model with QR rear. I do have a stop at the front of the top tube, but it looks different than the one on your frame. I will have to look at it a little closer.
    They aren't stops. They are just guides. Stops are fittings that the cable actually fits into and stops . This may be the confusion?

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    they are stops. the regular tallboy has dropper stops on all years. the rear one is hard to find as its right above the shock mounting

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    Definitely has a cable stop, so not sure if I could easily attach a cable or not.

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    2012 frames have GUIDES not stops. Or at least the ones I've seen and I've seen a lot. Either way, you can still run a dropper post with some crafty use of zip ties.

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    I ran a Specialized Command Post Blacklite on my TBc for awhile (using the cable stops under the top tube), and liked it a lot. When I got a TRc I moved the dropper post to that bike.

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    Here it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfs69 View Post
    Here it is.
    Can't tell from that view. Can you run housing though it?

    The thing with cable STOPS is I suppose they will work just fine with a cable actuated post but they present obvious problems with hydro lines . However, Like I said before, zip ties can certainly make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Can't tell from that view. Can you run housing though it?

    The thing with cable STOPS is I suppose they will work just fine with a cable actuated post but they present obvious problems with hydro lines . However, Like I said before, zip ties can certainly make it work.
    I don't think that I can run hydro hose because the back side is smaller diameter than the front, and I doubt that it would fit. My LBS is pretty good, I am sure they could come up with something. Thanks for the help.

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    Dropper post on a Tallboy C?

    What's the other side look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    What's the other side look like?
    Seriously? That's clearly a cable stop and not a hydraulic hose guide so you can't easily attach a hose to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bog View Post
    Seriously? That's clearly a cable stop and not a hydraulic hose guide so you can't easily attach a hose to it.
    The other side of the FRAME. As in what's the guide/stop on the other side look like? Hard to tell, but it looks like there is a cable on the other side running full housing. So don't be a ******, i'm only trying to help.

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    Cable stops only on the non-LT version, sorry. Saying that you've seen tons of the frames with dropper hose guides isn't helping anyone.
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    Dropper post on a Tallboy C?

    Quote Originally Posted by bog View Post
    Cable stops only on the non-LT version, sorry. Saying that you've seen tons of the frames with dropper hose guides isn't helping anyone.
    Buddy. I OWN one with guides.
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    Been using the Reverb with great success. I also have one on my TBLTc. I think they work great.
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    Yeah, Stop on both sides of the top-tube unfortunately. There are guides on the down-tube for the rear brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pachaven View Post
    Been using the Reverb with great success. I also have one on my TBLTc. I think they work great.
    Thanks, nice bike. How do you have the cable attached to your top-tube, (or do you?) I can't tell from your photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfs69 View Post
    Thanks, nice bike. How do you have the cable attached to your top-tube, (or do you?) I can't tell from your photo.
    Just zip tie the dropper post cable to another cable. I've done this a number of times with older frames or frames that just don't have anythign for dropper posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Just zip tie the dropper post cable to another cable. I've done this a number of times with older frames or frames that just don't have anythign for dropper posts.
    That sounds like a great idea.

    I also found these guys: Amazon.com: Problem Solvers Stick-On Hydraulic Housing Guide Bag of 5: Sports & Outdoors

    I found a great deal on a KS Lev, I just may pull the trigger. Thanks for all of the help folks. And by all means, if others out there have photos, post em up!

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    The problem with those 'problem solvers' is you have to zip tie them around your frame. The irony here is this far less clean than just zip tying it to an existing hose/cable.

    Re: Lev... Between my fiancee and I we have two preLEV posts, a Lev and a gravity dropper. The LEV, while expensive is really REALLY nice. It's also cable actuated so you COULD use those stops. It's just that generally dropper posts run full housing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Re: Lev... Between my fiancee and I we have two preLEV posts, a Lev and a gravity dropper. The LEV, while expensive is really REALLY nice. It's also cable actuated so you COULD use those stops. It's just that generally dropper posts run full housing.
    These are the two posts I'm considering for my Tallboy. If you had to choose one between the two, which would it be?

    I'm not really concerned about the cost difference. I am very concerned about which post would be the most reliable. I hate when things break down in the woods.

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    Here's a shot of mine with the LEV on it. Works well with the cable stops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeonD View Post
    These are the two posts I'm considering for my Tallboy. If you had to choose one between the two, which would it be?

    I'm not really concerned about the cost difference. I am very concerned about which post would be the most reliable. I hate when things break down in the woods.
    -All things being equal, the LEV is far superior. The remote awesome. I often ride with my thumb resting on it. THe GD remote is awkward no matter where you put it.

    -The infinite adjustability is awesome on the LEV. The GD is down, up or one inch down (2inch also available).

    -The GD comes up way to fast. The LEV comes up at a perfect speed.

    -The LEV looks great. The GD look like some sort of industrial prototype from the 80s.

    All that being said, the GD is tried and true and very reliable. Both our pre-LEV KS posts have gone back to KS for service. Both were turned around in one week. The LEV is an obvious improvement. Reliability is unproven for us, but initial reports are good. Good luck.

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    I ordered a 150mm Lev. Great sale on them at Bikebling.com right now, also used 15% off code: 15off300

    I also ordered some self-adhesive cable guides. If they don't work, I will just zip the cable to another one.

    The main reason that I am excited about using a dropper is the fact that I have very long legs, and my center of gravity is really high. I think this will make a very positive impact on my riding. I will post up a photo when it comes in.

    Thanks again for all the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfs69 View Post
    I ordered a 150mm Lev. Great sale on them at Bikebling.com right now, also used 15% off code: 15off300

    I also ordered some self-adhesive cable guides. If they don't work, I will just zip the cable to another one.

    The main reason that I am excited about using a dropper is the fact that I have very long legs, and my center of gravity is really high. I think this will make a very positive impact on my riding. I will post up a photo when it comes in.

    Thanks again for all the help.
    One caution with BikeBling. I've ordered 2 KS posts from them. Ended up getting 0 from them. Same story same time. Ordered posts. waited a while. Realized post is still delivered :P. Called bikebling. Bike bling siad post is backordered. Ok fine, whatever. Waited months before ordering from other vendor. So my advice? Be absolutely sure they have what you want in stock. That being siad, they do have great prices.

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    I'm planning on a KS Lev for my TRc build. One thing I'm concerned about is clamping the bike in my work stand via the post (as shown by the OP). Will this tend to loosen the post over time, particularly when the bike is turned to various angles causing the post to bear additional weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinepig View Post
    I'm planning on a KS Lev for my TRc build. One thing I'm concerned about is clamping the bike in my work stand via the post (as shown by the OP). Will this tend to loosen the post over time, particularly when the bike is turned to various angles causing the post to bear additional weight?
    You don't want to clamp the post like that pic for a number of reasons. Would you clamp your fork stanchions? No. Just clamp the frame. or pull more post out and don't clamp the stanchion.

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    I just got a Yakima top tube adapter to address this issue, and I'm very happy with it as a solution. I didn't like clamping the frame (carbon with weird tube shapes) or pulling out more post (screwed with my cable routing). I have a KS Lev on a Tallboy LTc.

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    hillharman - I have the same concerns about clamping the frame or moving the post. The Yakima piece may be the way to go. Are you able to clamp one end below the collar on the KS post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinepig View Post
    hillharman - I have the same concerns about clamping the frame or moving the post. The Yakima piece may be the way to go. Are you able to clamp one end below the collar on the KS post?
    The adapter will actually sit below the seat tube collar if you need it to. I also have enough room to put it on the seatpost itself if necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    I didn't like clamping the frame (carbon with weird tube shapes).
    But you're ok RIDING at 25mph down a rocky hill? I think it can handle a clamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    But you're ok RIDING at 25mph down a rocky hill? I think it can handle a clamp.
    The clamp can exert fairly large forces on small surface areas that may or may not have been designed to handle them. Just being careful. The tubes are also so big and swoopy that they can be hard to clamp.

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    Watch this video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    Watch this video.

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    Seen it a million times. Don't have to sell me on it. The durability and transparency in testing is what keeps me coming back to Santa Cruz.

    The truth is that it's actually really hard to clamp the LTc frame anywhere due to the shape. If it were easy, I'd probably be doing it that way.

    I'd bet willing to bet that breakage due to clamping your frame wouldn't be covered by warranty. I doubt someone will show up in this thread to answer, but it would be interesting to hear what they said if you called and asked. They don't show any destructive frame clamping tests in that video.

    Edit: My point is just that I'd almost guarantee you I could damage a frame with a screw-based clamp. It might be difficult, but like I've said, they can generate extremely high point loads, especially on tubes that don't fit in them (like shaped carbon tubes). Anyone have a busted carbon frame they want to try to crush with a bike stand clamp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwind View Post
    -All things being equal, the LEV is far superior. The remote awesome. I often ride with my thumb resting on it. THe GD remote is awkward no matter where you put it.

    -The infinite adjustability is awesome on the LEV. The GD is down, up or one inch down (2inch also available).

    -The GD comes up way to fast. The LEV comes up at a perfect speed.

    -The LEV looks great. The GD look like some sort of industrial prototype from the 80s.

    All that being said, the GD is tried and true and very reliable. Both our pre-LEV KS posts have gone back to KS for service. Both were turned around in one week. The LEV is an obvious improvement. Reliability is unproven for us, but initial reports are good. Good luck.
    I also want to echo these remarks. The GD is a very solid post that "just works" and could probably be rebuilt trailside if you had the parts. The Lev is in a different league, however, and represents the only dropper that I know of that doesn't have a glaring flaw. In my opinion, a moving cable attachment point is a glaring flaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    The adapter will actually sit below the seat tube collar if you need it to. I also have enough room to put it on the seatpost itself if necessary.
    I was talking about between the collar on the seatpost and the seat tube clamp, which I'm guessing is the same as what you're doing. Anyway, thanks for a great tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogboy View Post
    Here's a shot of mine with the LEV on it. Works well with the cable stops.
    Thanks, I got my post in a week, but they sent the wrong size. They got a new one out that day, so good customer service on their part.

    Can you let me know how you attached the cable to the cable stops and what position you have the cable (towards the rear I would guess?). Also, what pressure is everyone using, or just going with what it came with?

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