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    Carbon Nomad!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    There is a rumor that S/C will be showing off a carbon Nomad at Sea Otter....... can't wait to see her!

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    When you have that many !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s, you had better have a picture to back up your rumor.
    "It looks flexy"

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    ^ x2! LOL

    I respectfully submit that you consider this thread utterly worthless without pictures.

    But goddam that would be sick.

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    Well, it might be worthless until Friday, when Sea Otter's going on. I doubt they'd do a debut for SO though, as they just came out with the new blur...

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    winkie was implied BTW.

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    If true, I wonder what that thing would cost?...Ouch!

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    i started a rumor of question...no facts...it wouldnt be a wise bizness choice if they dont even have anodized nomads avaible for all fill in backorders.

    i bet its carbon blur lt or something completely different..

    maybe carbon xc hardtail or who knows...v10?

    all Kirt told me was that it was "something brand new never before seen"

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    Santa cruz is a bit unorthodox though. It'll be interesting to see what comes out.
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    Awesome! Now you get to pay 2x as much for minimal performance benefits! * high five *

    Its not like the Nomad is really in need of a carbon model, so what would be the point exactly?
    Stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropmachine.com
    Awesome! Now you get to pay 2x as much for minimal performance benefits! * high five *

    Its not like the Nomad is really in need of a carbon model, so what would be the point exactly?
    Actually, I think the nomad above all other long travel AM bikes needs carbon. Think of how many coffee drinking old men who ride them for XC and to the coffee shop there are, it fits the bill for a 6.5 inch travel carbon bike perfectly!

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    [QUOTE=curtykills]i started a rumor of question...no facts...it wouldnt be a wise bizness choice if they dont even have anodized nomads avaible for all fill in backorders.


    The Carbon units are produced by another outside vendor specializing in the carbon technology so the availability factor would vary from the current alloy production runs. As far as business decision goes I think it is wise. The target market is different due to the price point. By still offering single pivot, VPP and now carbon they have broadened their market. During this economic down turn I'm sure SC was able to negotiate a good contract with the vendor. Keep in mind many folk simply can't afford the carbon versions as they become available. As much as I'd love to own a LT2 or Nomad carbon unit I'd have to wait for sloppy seconds as I did for my LT2.

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    Something never seen before from SC : Like a 29er carbon hardtail ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    Actually, I think the nomad above all other long travel AM bikes needs carbon. Think of how many coffee drinking old men who ride them for XC and to the coffee shop there are, it fits the bill for a 6.5 inch travel carbon bike perfectly!
    Well, I know of one group that does that right now

    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    If true, I wonder what that thing would cost?...Ouch!
    Have we hit the $10,000 plateau in mtb yet? I have seen Spec getting dangerously close enough to the point where the numbers are no longer even and hover just under the 10k mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    Actually, I think the nomad above all other long travel AM bikes needs carbon. Think of how many coffee drinking old men who ride them for XC and to the coffee shop there are, it fits the bill for a 6.5 inch travel carbon bike perfectly!
    Hey...where and how I ride my carbon Nomad will be absolutely none of your business.

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    Unless you ride it with an arm made of titanium and an RP3 for an elbow, you're a sissy.

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    How about a carbon Heckler? for 2010 keeping the single pivot in the space age

    based around a 160 fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffus
    How about a carbon Heckler? for 2010 keeping the single pivot in the space age

    based around a 160 fork
    Seems like it would defeat the whole motive and purpose of the Heckler...simplicity, value, durability. And no...I'm not spoiling for a carbon vs. aluminum durability debate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    Seems like it would defeat the whole motive and purpose of the Heckler...simplicity, value, durability. And no...I'm not spoiling for a carbon vs. aluminum durability debate.
    There was another thread that discussed this... maybe a carbon rear swingarm with the standard Heckler5 front? Even if it was merely optional... For those with $$$ to burn, they could do a Ti front triangle too.
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    Seems like it would defeat the whole motive and purpose of the Heckler...simplicity, value, durability. And no...I'm not spoiling for a carbon vs. aluminum durability debate.
    I get your point TNC , I suppose it would be a £2000 carbon frame (£1200 alloy) instead of £3000 Carbon Nomad (£2000 alloy) Blur Xc is £2300 and going up.

    It would be nice simple and light

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    I'm betting on a carbon 29er hardtail. Totally uncharted waters for Santa Cruz on both territories.

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    The super-secret California way (think Apple) does not always serve them well. I purchased a Titus Racer X Carbon a week before the news was official. Had I known the Blur XC Carbon was about to sproing into the market I would have waited. The double wammy is that I really like the Titus and might buy another in the future. It's one thing to create anticipation, but at what cost to your own business?

    Hmmmm

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    Why would SC make a new Nomad, the Nomad 2 has been around for how many months? like 6? I would bet on a 4X, they took it off ther site, it was also the last bike to be the older generation of vpp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    Actually, I think the nomad above all other long travel AM bikes needs carbon. Think of how many coffee drinking old men who ride them for XC and to the coffee shop there are, it fits the bill for a 6.5 inch travel carbon bike perfectly!
    wow...that is poetry and i am jealous i did not write that! very well said

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    I am liking the sound of a carbon chameleon.

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    I'm not buying a DH/FR bike until they come out with the carbon V-10.

    I'll also be holding my breath until it ships. Starting now.
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    Hey!...did you hear that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frs1661
    I'm not buying a DH/FR bike until they come out with the carbon V-10.

    I'll also be holding my breath until it ships. Starting now.
    It sounded like Frs1661 hitting the floor from oxygen deprivation.

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    08 xl ano slate nomad frame for sale pm me. need to sell fast
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    It sounded like Frs1661 hitting the floor from oxygen deprivation.
    Luckily my roommate found me in time to resuscitate me... I'll just have to come to terms with my shamefully metallic bicycles for the time being.

    Someday I'll be able to ride through airport security without setting off the metal detector. Until then my dream to wheelie drop off a 787 onto one of those stair-cars will have to wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    Actually, I think the nomad above all other long travel AM bikes needs carbon. Think of how many coffee drinking old men who ride them for XC and to the coffee shop there are, it fits the bill for a 6.5 inch travel carbon bike perfectly!
    . . . yes and when are they shipping these suckers out, Im ashamed to park my alloy Nomad at the cafe cause all the other "old men" have carbon long-travel two wheel couches.


    Once aron a time when you got old you purchased one of those Brooks saddles with big springs built in so one could travel in relative comfort deapite the hemorrhoids and now we buy 160mm travel carbon AM bikes.

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    Carbon Blur LT

    I'm betting on a Carbon Blur LT.
    Look at this : http://www.santacruzmtb.com/blurlt_carbon/
    It's the only page which asks you a password. Perhaps would it be unlocked during the Sea Otter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rami
    I'm betting on a Carbon Blur LT.
    Look at this : http://www.santacruzmtb.com/blurlt_carbon/
    It's the only page which asks you a password. Perhaps would it be unlocked during the Sea Otter.
    Any hackers out there.

    Its all getting a bit X files isn't it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rami
    I'm betting on a Carbon Blur LT.
    Look at this : http://www.santacruzmtb.com/blurlt_carbon/
    It's the only page which asks you a password. Perhaps would it be unlocked during the Sea Otter.
    *Raises an eyebrow*

    Interesting find.
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    The associated images are up.. http://www.santacruzbicycles.com/gra...rbonheader.gif

    Indeed, hers a pic of it - http://www.santacruzbicycles.com/gra..._carbon_tr.jpg



    Go forth and, err, yeah.

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    Neat. I guess people will be getting deals on the Alloy Blur LT's now too!
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    Holy god damn, I was just contemplating getting an LT2, looks like I'll just have to save for that dream build instead of the R AM kit after all, now it seems a carbon frame is on my list

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Well, I know of one group that does that right now


    Have we hit the $10,000 plateau in mtb yet? I have seen Spec getting dangerously close enough to the point where the numbers are no longer even and hover just under the 10k mark.
    Hey JC,

    I think the Scott Genious LTD has surpassed the $10,000.00 mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winerdiner29er
    Hey JC,

    I think the Scott Genious LTD has surpassed the $10,000.00 mark.
    Good lord:
    http://www.feedthehabit.com/mountain...mountain-bike/

    $13,224.99 MSRP (USD)

    And it weighs barely under 23lbs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by al_bullit
    The associated images are up..

    Holy sh1t! Way to break a story. I should be ready for a new bike around the time I get enough money saved up for one of these.
    Ride it like you stole it!

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    double post

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    Nice job website haxors.

    I'm confused as to why you guys think the Alu BLT2 will go down in price? It just came out. Couldn't this be positioned as a higher end version of the BLT2 and priced accordingly? There seems to be room in the pricing for that. I guess I'm saying I wouldn't hold my breath for a price drop on the Au BLT2 but if it happens that'll be a nice thing for the consumer. Used ones, however, that's another story... upgrade time for BLT owners!

    Oh, and I think that the BLT2C is mighty fine looking. I'd ride one if I were made of money.

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    Man those decals blow on the carbon frames. Pretty bike, though. Well, looks like I'll be trying to get my hands on a used blt2, now. Hey hey!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy_Steve
    Man those decals blow on the carbon frames. Pretty bike, though. Well, looks like I'll be trying to get my hands on a used blt2, now. Hey hey!
    I gotta agree. Not a fan of the decals on this or the BXCC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffylooking
    Nice job website haxors.

    I'm confused as to why you guys think the Alu BLT2 will go down in price? It just came out. Couldn't this be positioned as a higher end version of the BLT2 and priced accordingly? There seems to be room in the pricing for that. I guess I'm saying I wouldn't hold my breath for a price drop on the Au BLT2 but if it happens that'll be a nice thing for the consumer. Used ones, however, that's another story... upgrade time for BLT owners!

    Oh, and I think that the BLT2C is mighty fine looking. I'd ride one if I were made of money.
    Basic product economics scruffy. Have you seen prices of nomad mk1s lately? Especially the frames with a 1.25" headtube. How about blur xc aluminum builds? You can pick one up @ backcountry for $1800 shipped, rp23, reba sl fork, deore/xt build, ect... How much did those aluminum frames retail for in 2008? I forget the exact number, but it wasn't much less than this build going on @ backcountry.

    There will always be people who need the latest and greatest. Even though no-one has wholly admitted to "I'm calling my LBS to put down a deposit" on this forum, I bet there are tons of lurkers who are doing it right now. S*hit, the xc carbon just came out what, 2 months ago, and there are already quite a few threads on it.

    Granted, the blt2c is different from the blt2 is respects to it being carbon, and looks like it's going more along the line of competition to say:

    stumpjumper fsr expert
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    blt2 - xt build
    blt2-c - xt build

    It's not a replacement like the blt2 did to the blt1, or the bxc-c to the bxc, so the pricing won't be as drastic as the blt1s and bcxs dropped. However, there will still be a drop of prices, especially on used frames. Santa Cruz & the LBS might not accept the fact that the aluminum frames are worth less now, but with a boutique manufacturer like Santa Cruz and very limited production/availability, I think it will. People want boutiqe, they want the best, and now this blt2-c is the ultimate trail bike! Looks like I'll be watching ebay for the next year or so...

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    Order for XC carbon canceled. Order for carbon LT placed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfab25
    Order for XC carbon canceled. Order for carbon LT placed...
    well, that was quick, and one on the board. Indyfab, what size is your blt2? Hahahahaha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy_Steve
    well, that was quick, and one on the board. Indyfab, what size is your blt2? Hahahahaha.
    Large...and I'll be selling it pretty cheap as I got a great price on it. Justa waiting on ETA for that thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy_Steve
    Basic product economics scruffy. Have you seen prices of nomad mk1s lately? Especially the frames with a 1.25" headtube. How about blur xc aluminum builds? You can pick one up @ backcountry for $1800 shipped, rp23, reba sl fork, deore/xt build, ect... How much did those aluminum frames retail for in 2008? I forget the exact number, but it wasn't much less than this build going on @ backcountry.

    There will always be people who need the latest and greatest. Even though no-one has wholly admitted to "I'm calling my LBS to put down a deposit" on this forum, I bet there are tons of lurkers who are doing it right now. S*hit, the xc carbon just came out what, 2 months ago, and there are already quite a few threads on it.

    Granted, the blt2c is different from the blt2 is respects to it being carbon, and looks like it's going more along the line of competition to say:

    stumpjumper fsr expert
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    blt2 - xt build
    blt2-c - xt build

    It's not a replacement like the blt2 did to the blt1, or the bxc-c to the bxc, so the pricing won't be as drastic as the blt1s and bcxs dropped. However, there will still be a drop of prices, especially on used frames. Santa Cruz & the LBS might not accept the fact that the aluminum frames are worth less now, but with a boutique manufacturer like Santa Cruz and very limited production/availability, I think it will. People want boutiqe, they want the best, and now this blt2-c is the ultimate trail bike! Looks like I'll be watching ebay for the next year or so...
    Oh, I totally agree with you on the used bike front. BLT2s should be showing up. Any. Second. Now.

    Just wondering if it'll change the pricing of new AL BLT2s. I like your Stumpy analogy, Stumpy. That's what my mind first jumped to. BLT2 frame geo in two flavors: AL and Carbon. Priced accordingly. That said, Speedgoat just put BLT2s on sale. What perfect timing.

    Everything else SCB seems to be on sale, too.

    And yes, I've been following the resale market on Nomad 1s with 1 1/8th. I'm about to list mine. Cue sad trombone.

    Indy - You bike pimp. Didn't you JUST get a BLT2 in AL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfab25
    Large...and I'll be selling it pretty cheap as I got a great price on it. Justa waiting on ETA for that thing.
    See? Any. Second. Just. Passed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5H0CK3R
    Holy sh1t! Way to break a story. I should be ready for a new bike around the time I get enough money saved up for one of these.

    WOW. Very tempting. Wonder how many people will actually be able to afford this guy.

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    I can't help but think this is a bad series of moves for them. They really seem to be pumping out frame after frame without allowing enough saturation time between them. The line between being innovative and being flighty is beginning to blur. (no pun intended) Sweet upgrade? For sure, but with a complete redesign just a year ago, it just seems too soon in my opinon. From shops sitting heavy on aluminum BLT2's, to riders who just finally saved up to purchase the current model since its release last year, I can't help but think that aside from bike shop employees and wealthy spenders, there must be a small bit of resentment under the excitement?

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    I made the comment about the BLT2 price going down because I just picked up an ano black alloy blur XC, DXC build kit for $1600 on Chainlove last week. Before the BXC Carbon came out this build was $3239 MSRP. Pretty good discount on the old style in this case.

    If they continue to produce an alloy version of the BLT2 they may not be discounted so heavily, or at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banshee Rider
    I can't help but think this is a bad series of moves for them. They really seem to be pumping out frame after frame without allowing enough saturation time between them. The line between being innovative and being flighty is beginning to blur. (no pun intended) Sweet upgrade? For sure, but with a complete redesign just a year ago, it just seems too soon in my opinon. From shops sitting heavy on aluminum BLT2's, to riders who just finally saved up to purchase the current model since its release last year, I can't help but think that aside from bike shop employees and wealthy spenders, there must be a small bit of resentment under the excitement?
    I look at it the other way. If they saturated the market with AL bikes, most folks would have been pissed at a late arrival of the same bike in carbon. I know I would have gone carbon before the AL. Shoot, a lighter, stiffer version of the bike I have now....good to go! It's not like the AL guys are losing out. Not to mention all the cats that still believe that carbon isn't a good frame material...

    Good moves from my point of view as it is the perfect bike for me....why wait?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffylooking

    Indy - You bike pimp. Didn't you JUST get a BLT2 in AL?
    Early last year I got an LT2. Was going to split the bike into a carbon XC and a Nomad simply for racing reasons. I canceled the order last week for the XC because I decided I wanted to still race on the LT2 and keep a good economic stance. Best of both worlds now... I
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    Interestingly... This link does not work anymore. Wonder what happened??

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    Whaddya mean, works for me???
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    Scb.....

    .........Will have something with 29 inch wheels.
    They DID buy a Fisher Superfly after all............

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    I wouldn't count on aluminum BLT2's going down too much in price. They will be hundreds less than the carbon ones, they will be more readily available and some folks just aren't sold on carbon mountain bikes yet.

    Separately I hope we never see a 29er from SCB. They pride themselves in innovation and to release one now would just be a copy cat market share move. Maybe if they could come up with some cool new idea for a 29er. Like maybe they could they could put 26" wheels on it and call it a real mountain bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RubberSideUp
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    Separately I hope we never see a 29er from SCB. They pride themselves in innovation and to release one now would just be a copy cat market share move. Maybe if they could come up with some cool new idea for a 29er. Like maybe they could they could put 26" wheels on it and call it a real mountain bike!
    Zing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frs1661
    Zing!


    Doesnt Specialized force newer product down your throat every year? the last 3 years the epic and stumpjumper fsr models have not been consistent...what about S works...7$ bike different every single year? cmon now!

    zing bing!

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    interesting,but I don't like carbon......I wont a titanium chameleon.....

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    Carbon Nomad

    I'm fine with the whole carbon Blur thing. Just as long as they keep the Nomad aluminum, the Nomad is fine the way it is. Just my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banshee Rider
    I can't help but think this is a bad series of moves for them. They really seem to be pumping out frame after frame without allowing enough saturation time between them. The line between being innovative and being flighty is beginning to blur. (no pun intended) Sweet upgrade? For sure, but with a complete redesign just a year ago, it just seems too soon in my opinon. From shops sitting heavy on aluminum BLT2's, to riders who just finally saved up to purchase the current model since its release last year, I can't help but think that aside from bike shop employees and wealthy spenders, there must be a small bit of resentment under the excitement?

    I sort of agree... was just thinking about the same thing the other day...
    Just got a new V10. Couldn't help but think "how soon till it becomes the "old model"?
    And this type of thinking was only brought by the flurry of new bikes...

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    You must of just bought one..

    A carbon nomad would be a great addition. It would kill all ibis mojo sales and be a bike that nobody can compete with. The strength of the frame would be incredible.

    We're talkin' 28 lbs. nomads that are stronger than today's frames.

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    Well I hope everyone is happy, the rumor was corrected and the pictures are up.

    Now for some more stuff... I would be naive to think that all the other bikes from the S/C lines won't be re-made into carbon, think about this. There are new tests being conducted as we speak that will proove that carbon has equal or greater impact strength than alumminum, this is the one thing that has kept the most alumaniacs from going carbon. The test are going to show that when executed correctly if carbon fails aluminum would have failed too or sooner, so the only barrier that has kept the industry from trancending to carbon will be dispelled. With a frame that is stronger, stiffer and lighter it is really a no brainer, not to mention the fact that once production molds and intel has been done it is easier to manufacture too.

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    Carbon is going to be more and more prevalent

    Due to increased safety guidelines in Europe that will eventually make their way to the US, more and more manufacturers will build their bikes out of carbon. Why you ask? Well, the short story is the new regs call for a certain amount of frame strength to be built that will withstand a frontal impact using any fork that could be potentially installed. So all of the bikes designed around 100mm or so of travel, have to be able to hold up in a frontal impact when a 160mm travel fork is installed. With alloys and steel, that means big and very thick (heavy) downtubes and top tubes so frames don't crumple. With carbon, it means more carbon in a few specific areas. No bike company wants their new full suss or hardtail to have gained an extra .25-.5 lbs or more. It's a stupid rule, much like the UCI's wheel regulations that punish a rim that doesn't break when you hit a curb, but that's another gripe altogether.
    I like to start out slow and then back it off a notch.

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    Does this European rule take into account the design limitations of a bike - as in if a manufacturer prints "OK for 80-120mm forks ONLY" or something? Otherwise I can see them making longer travel forks with only 1.5" steerers and shorter travel a tapered 1.5 to 1.125 steerer so solve that problem.
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    Not really

    Orange just discontinued their Prestige, a classic steel hardtail, because it failed when tested with a 160mm single crown fork. Sure, they could have beefed it up, but then you have a tank. I think the wording is a bit ambiguous. As it was explained to me (becoming more and more like the "telephone game") the frame can't fail with any fork that might or could be installed on it. I guess it depends how good your legal department is.
    I like to start out slow and then back it off a notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tboned
    It would kill all ibis mojo sales and be a bike that nobody can compete with.
    Doubt it. First, the Mojo is a XC / AM bike, more directly comparable to the Blur LT. Second, the Mojo is not just light, but a good design. Third, the DW-Link was noticeably better than VPP to me, and although the very short spin I had on a VPP2 Blur recently felt very good, it didn't suggest that VPP2 is better than the current DW design, which also continues to evolve. My guess is that Nicol will keep improving the Mojo and it will continue to sell, although that won't take anything away from a CF Nomad.

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    Hi all,
    who's gonna build the new Blur frame, which provider?

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    No I'm serious it will kill everyone of their sales

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    Quote Originally Posted by tboned
    No I'm serious it will kill everyone of their sales

    All your sale are belong to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unoveloce
    Orange just discontinued their Prestige, a classic steel hardtail, because it failed when tested with a 160mm single crown fork. Sure, they could have beefed it up, but then you have a tank. I think the wording is a bit ambiguous. As it was explained to me (becoming more and more like the "telephone game") the frame can't fail with any fork that might or could be installed on it. I guess it depends how good your legal department is.
    really interesting - any chance you have a link? thanks!

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    Carbon Nomad

    It is in the works!!! Or they are working on it. But it will be a little bit of time before it is realized.

    I met a very reliable source on a local riding area and those are the only words that I can get out of him. Very reliable source.

    My apologies that no additional info about the "reliable source" can be provided without jeopardizing the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tboned
    You must of just bought one..

    A carbon nomad would be a great addition. It would kill all ibis mojo sales and be a bike that nobody can compete with. The strength of the frame would be incredible.

    We're talkin' 28 lbs. nomads that are stronger than today's frames.
    I did just buy one and if the carbon one came out I would buy one of those two. I'm just not a huge fan of Carbon mountain bikes, It's just doesn't make me want to get on it and ride it after a crash through a rock garden. At least with aluminum you can see the dent. Carbon you don't until it fails. I have seen to many Carbon Specialized bikes at the bike shop with the rear ends snapped from a crash. For XC applications I think it's fine but when you are talking about 3' to 4' drops, gnarly rock gardens, sketchy singletrack with trees everywhere. I would rather have Aluminum. But unfortunately I'm a sucker for new so I would probably buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loll
    It is in the works!!! Or they are working on it. But it will be a little bit of time before it is realized.

    I met a very reliable source on a local riding area and those are the only words that I can get out of him. Very reliable source.

    My apologies that no additional info about the "reliable source" can be provided without jeopardizing the information.
    Probably fanning the flames but I to have got info from a so called "reliable source". He reckons the reality of these rumors will be brought to light in about 3 weeks. Of course if I told you who it was he would deny ever saying anything.

    Im waiting in the dark for the dudes in black to come and wipe my memories. Kinda MTB X files thing going on

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    In the Turner forum, DT himself refers to an ad of the new Nomad carbon in the latest edition of Decline magazine (unless I read the post wrong).

    Anyone know of an electronic version of the ad??

    Anyone willing to scan in the ad . . . I'd love to see what it looks like.

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    Yes it's in the new Decline magazine and man is it sweet. They show a Nomad frame in white with black graphics. Got to have one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNC
    If true, I wonder what that thing would cost?...Ouch!
    Not to pick but why do people keep saying this? Both Blurs cost $400 more than the aluminum. More yes but not ridiculous at all.
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    Uh oh...reminds me of back in 07 when I took a photo of the new Heckler in Decline.
    I am immune to your disdain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triumphman
    Yes it's in the new Decline magazine and man is it sweet. They show a Nomad frame in white with black graphics. Got to have one!
    Triumphman,
    Am I just not seeing it? what issue and page are you looking at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikegee
    Triumphman,
    Am I just not seeing it? what issue and page are you looking at?
    It's in the May issue on page 34/35, I just got it yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triumphman
    It's in the May issue on page 34/35, I just got it yesterday.
    dude scan that picture!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner518
    dude scan that picture!
    And when it gets taken down...post it again!
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    I can´t belive the picture is in a magazine and nobody has posted it here yet!!

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    Just wait a couple days...right?
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    I don't think Santa Cruz wants it out there so I am not posting it. Unless it's OK by MtotheF which I don't think it is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NickShepherd
    Quick, get that cat back in the bag!!! Oh, and could you get a closer shot of the left page?
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    It is the stiffest, strongest frame they've ever made...lol.
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    Sexy!!!!
    Now for the when? I bet they don't hit the shores before August

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    looks sweet

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    priceless,

    from their blog

    and yes, crappy iphone pictures on a company blog of a new bike that is about to be launched, as opposed to nice big glossy pdfs and websites, is all part of a diabolical and many layered nefarious marketing plan the sole purpose of which is to confuse and frustrate potential customers, eventually leaving them so completely banjaxed that they have no alternative but to numbly buy our bikes. because we strategically employed the power of subliminal suggestion throughout the underhanded campaign. if you don’t want to buy a new carbon Nomad, DO NOT LOOK AT THIS PICTURE!! oops, too late
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    I'm guessing 6.3 lbs, $2499. Are those ISCG mounts I see?
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    What's going on in the drop out area?

    Maxle? Syntace's new standard? All of the above?

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    Carbon tubes - both the straight ones [ I ] and the curved ones [ S ] - are sexy indeed; together, they make a $.

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    just for that white color and cool graphics its a hit for me! bring it on!
    as for the blur ltc, with those two lame color options, i'll stay away.

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    When my Nomad1 finally kicks the bucket, I will definitely be in line for one of these.

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    Hard for me to see, Maxle rear??

    Will try to find a copy of the mag myself.

    Thanks, everyone!

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