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    buying a new nomad

    hey guys,

    i've been looking over all the posts about the nomad and i'm looking to buy a new one myself.
    i understand that there is a problem in the old models of the nomad with dhx air as a rear suspention. and i was wondering whether i should the old model and switch the rear suspention to dhx coil, or buy the 09 model asuming the problem is solved. i would like as well your advice about the fork. should i buy a fox flot forks or a vanilla...?

    i will appreciate your opinion.

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    What kind of problems? I have an '08 w/ DHX Air and it's just awesome.
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    Nomads w/air shocks ARE a problem for people that weigh around 190 lbs and over. Now there will be some in this weight range that will argue that they have no probs w/theirs, but for the most part, there is no mid stroke support w/90% of the air shocks on most VP bikes when the rider is 190 lbs and over. Just do a search, you'll find plenty. I say go coil AND even better, get a Cane Creek Double Barrel. You'll thank me later.
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    [QUOTE=man w/ one hand]there is no mid stroke support w/90% of the air shocks on most VP bikes when the rider is 190 lbs and over./QUOTE]


    Quoestion, mwoh - that apply to all air shocks, or the DHX only? I ride (and love) a 4x with an RP23, but I'm well over 190 - do you think I'd benefit from a coil on that too?

    It's first FS bike, so I don't really have a lot to compare to , hence the question

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    It's not just heavy riders either. My wife couldn't stand her nomad with a dhx air and she's only 130lbs. It rides low in the travel and wallows if set up correctly and if you add pressure to eliminate that it's harsh. We switched it to a dhx coil and she loves it. I don't know how anyone could like the dhx air on a nomad unless they have never ridden anything better I guess.

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    I have had a Nomad now for almost 3 years and just put on a DHX coil about 3 months ago. I wish I would have done it on day 1. Get a Nomad and go out and kick ass!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryM
    It's not just heavy riders either. My wife couldn't stand her nomad with a dhx air and she's only 130lbs. It rides low in the travel and wallows if set up correctly and if you add pressure to eliminate that it's harsh. We switched it to a dhx coil and she loves it. I don't know how anyone could like the dhx air on a nomad unless they have never ridden anything better I guess.
    I totally agree. I'm about 145lbs with gear on and no matter what setup I did on the cannister; I wasn't satisfied with the midstroke loss. The stock DHX-C fix that problem. Since then I got mine PUSHED and completely different shock. If you have extra cash though; CCDB is the way to go.

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    thanks guys for the help,
    man w/ i checkt the Cane Creek Double Barrel and its looks great, but very expensive,
    what about the fork what do u guys say, float or van?

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    get an RP23 with it ... i gave my dhx air to my friend and he put it on his heckler and moved his RP23 to my nomad and wow what a difference

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    [QUOTE=honourablegeorge]
    Quote Originally Posted by man w/ one hand
    there is no mid stroke support w/90% of the air shocks on most VP bikes when the rider is 190 lbs and over./QUOTE]


    Quoestion, mwoh - that apply to all air shocks, or the DHX only? I ride (and love) a 4x with an RP23, but I'm well over 190 - do you think I'd benefit from a coil on that too?

    It's first FS bike, so I don't really have a lot to compare to , hence the question
    Yes, I am speaking mainly about the DHX air, however TNC loves some of the Manitou air shocks and says they don't suffer as much from the DHX air type issues. "Benefit from a coil", that would depend on the kind of riding you do, but w/the experience most have had here w/DHX air, IMO, yes, you will benefit, but be aware; bike weight will go up some, but well worth it. There are some who have put the RP23 canister on their DHX shocks and seem to like the changes it makes to the shock. Since you're already running a RP23, i.e. a DHX w/RP23 can, if you feel like you are wallowing in travel and feel like there is no support at mid-stroke; I'd seriously consider a coil.

    Here's a link in this same forum, SC, that has some really good info from TNC on the Manitou ISX-6 air shock. Nomad ISX-6 set up thread

    If you're considering a DHX coil, I'd think about getting it PUSH'd, way better than stock, but I'd seriously consider a Cane Creek Double Barrel, costly - yes, take a few weeks to get it - yes, but IMO you'll have the "best, most adjustable, best functioning, dependable shock offered at the present time. It will completely change the ride of your bike, no matter what you're riding.

    Cost of New DHX coil + PUSH rebuild, just about = cost of new Cane Creek Double Barrel. Best of the two; CCDB !!!

    I love my Nomad/CCDB. I'm running a Marzocchi 06 66sl fork at the present time, but for dh'n I run a 05 66rc that gives me about 1" - 1 1/2" taller ft end.
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    this can be an issue for lighter riders who 'pump' the bikes through/over terrain more than some as well.

    an RP23 as described above can be a good option. Make sure you're not looking at a high-volume version though. not sure you'll improve your experience much over the DHX Air unless you go with the low (regular) volume air canister.

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