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    Blur TRc pictures

    Cant find a thread with TRc pictures, so I'll start on off with my build.. Sneeks in at 24.95lbs.. first ride in the Rocky Peak district England and its one Rocket of a bike.. never felt under travelled
    The Chainset btw, is XTR M970, then I turned down a worn out outer ring to make it into a bash, the ceramic coated at Shawnee bike coating







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    love the black and green color. such a sick lookin bike man.

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    cheers, looks even better in the flesh, the matt black finish is amazing.

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    Beautiful built simonm. Size of the frame?

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    many thanks, I'm very happy with it.. Size is a small.

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    very nice, Simon

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    to continue this Blur TRc picture thread:

    mine is size M





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    Simon - nice work on the cranks.

    Zauberer - 36 Float fork? How much travel?

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    How is the new shadow plus xtr living up to the hype. Im considering one. Would love to know what you think of it!

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    How much abuse can the trc can take?

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    Those are some sweet rides.
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    Sweet rides!

    Simonm: Digging the Renthal stem - wish we saw those more in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravitythief76 View Post
    How is the new shadow plus xtr living up to the hype. Im considering one. Would love to know what you think of it!
    I decided to try this shadow+, because I wanted to know if I could ride without a chainguard and don't drop my chain.

    My experience after 1 month:

    No, the shadow+ doesn't eliminate dropping the chain from the middle ring totally.
    On really ambitious descends with rocks and roots I've dropped down my chain sooner or later ...

    The shadow+ reduces the oscillation of the chain, that's for sure. My chain is more quiet, less hammering against the chainstays

    My conclusion: the shadow+ is perfect for smooth trails, but for engaged all mountain riding the shadow+ is not enough for me. A chainguide will be the way to go in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikedrd View Post
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    Zauberer - 36 Float fork? How much travel?
    axle to crown is reduced to 520mm, so the travel should be around 135mm I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by zauberer View Post
    I decided to try this shadow+, because I wanted to know if I could ride without a chainguard and don't drop my chain.

    My experience after 1 month:

    No, the shadow+ doesn't eliminate dropping the chain from the middle ring totally.
    On really ambitious descends with rocks and roots I've dropped down my chain sooner or later ...

    The shadow+ reduces the oscillation of the chain, that's for sure. My chain is more quiet, less hammering against the chainstays

    My conclusion: the shadow+ is perfect for smooth trails, but for engaged all mountain riding the shadow+ is not enough for me. A chainguide will be the way to go in the future.
    Exactly what i wanted to know. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzblue242 View Post
    Sweet rides!

    Simonm: Digging the Renthal stem - wish we saw those more in the US.
    Many thanks, Yeh, there really cool, good size and rise too.. looks amazing in the flesh. There Fatbars are really nice too.

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    My Large TRc... 22.9 pounds in it's current form. No dropped chain with my Shadow+, but I'm sure the XCX guide (1x10) is helping with that, and it's definitely quiet. I only have crappy iPhone pics at the moment, but it'll give ya the idea!







    For anyone that's curious about the lighter build, I also have a Nomad, so the TRc really is my XC/Trail rig although it's taken everything I've thrown at it so far.


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    Do want. Badly.

    Will wait until better colors come out . . . . though that green and black would go nicely with my Special ed. Hopes

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    What a great bike, super fun

    Here are some pictures of my Trc. The handling of this bike is off the charts. Super fast and super fun.

    Here is my glossy beast

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    I changed most of my parts over from my XCc - the bar is new and the XX revelation world cup with carbon crown is new. Nice.
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    Trying out the Lopes limited edition chain guide. I have been pretty happy with it so far, doesn't drag too much on the climbs. However, these things get noiser with use (I am betting).

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    Anyway, loving the bike. The more aggressive you are with it the more it rewards you.

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    ^^^ How did you get a Gloss frame? I thought these were only available in Matte carbon?

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    High quality pictures William

    I'm thinking to put this chainguide on my TRc.
    Is it a good choice?

    Today I've some moved pictures of my Blur TRc.
    Nothing special, but I hope you could imagine the fun factor of this trailbike

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    Oh I forgot to mention I upgraded my XX brakes to 2012 models. The new ones are very smooth to use, I am very impressed so far. The smoothness adds to the already excellent modulation.

    So far so good with the chain guide, the test will be how it goes over time I guess.

    Hey great video zauberer. It shows some really good high speed sections, nice. I will be planning a trip to Switzerland, and I loved that footage you had there - some similarities to what I expect it will be like, I saw the cable car in the background in one spot. Good work mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by godfather View Post



    For anyone that's curious about the lighter build, I also have a Nomad, so the TRc really is my XC/Trail rig although it's taken everything I've thrown at it so far.


    Thank you for helping me rationalize owning a TRC while still holding onto my NomadC.

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    I think the gloss finish is a result of using heli-tape. I've got a very similar finish on my Blur XCc as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    ^^^ How did you get a Gloss frame? I thought these were only available in Matte carbon?
    Maybe he uses a (carbon) polishing wax or something like this, because Matte surfaces are very sensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowtron View Post
    Thank you for helping me rationalize owning a TRC while still holding onto my NomadC.
    Hahaha! Glad someone else out there is in the same boat!

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    blur trc

    I have a few rides on my new Blur TRc. Coming off blur LTc with short shock. I loved that bike, but it wasn't perfect. I was hoping the TRc would be better than my modified LT in a couple areas. The short shock blur LTc had similar bb height (12.75), head angle (67) and 115 mm of travel which was really fun. The seat angle ended up being too slack. The bb was really low. I felt like the suspension was compromised as the short shock didn't really work with Santa Cruz' plan for leverage rate/axle path.
    Well, Santa Cruz fixed it all with the TRc. I love the geometry. My bb is 12.9, head angle is 67 with 140 fork. Unbelievable handling. I am really impressed with the suspension. The Kashima shock is noticeably more plush than any other 125 mm bike I have ridden. By the way, if you get one, don't forget the pro pedal works a bit backwards compared to the previous versions. Pedaling platform works well. I couldn't be happier with the bike.
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    I'm gettin' kinda pissed at all you people RAVING how great this bike is (because I don't have one) . . . . isn't there ANYTHING about this thing you don't like (that I can use to internally justify not having one)?


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    Quote Originally Posted by godfather View Post
    Hahaha! Glad someone else out there is in the same boat!
    Urm.. I own a TRc and a Nomad C too... is there a pattern here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    I'm gettin' kinda pissed at all you people RAVING how great this bike is (because I don't have one) . . . . isn't there ANYTHING about this thing you don't like (that I can use to internally justify not having one)?

    A few more rides in......

    Nope, this bike is fantastic.. Only think I may do is drop the fork to 130... I don;t think I'll even notice Downhill.. but will be a bit less wandery up hil..


    BTW, did I mention this bike is amazing ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zauberer View Post
    High quality pictures William

    I'm thinking to put this chainguide on my TRc.
    Is it a good choice?

    Today I've some moved pictures of my Blur TRc.
    Nothing special, but I hope you could imagine the fun factor of this trailbike

    Where is that Trail ! its supurb ! nice riding, nice vid too

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm View Post
    Urm.. I own a TRc and a Nomad C too... is there a pattern here ?
    I don't have a TRC yet. Its in the plan for next spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm View Post
    . . . this bike is fantastic . . . did I mention this bike is amazing ?


    My wife is going to be sooooo pissed if she see's a new bike show up. I can't exactly camouflage it either since the current bike is silver. Hmmmm . . . .

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    You need one now

    Hey 007, it is a stunningly good bike. If your a passive rider, it's absolutely fine, but if you are an active rider then it is ballistic. Through essess it is so fast, I wiggle my hips the bike whips from side to side kicking mini roosts and the bike can still go faster through essess - faster than me . Corners with support, well, it's just a matter of how brave you are - the capability of the bike is so good that you have to lift your game.

    I rode a demo with a 120 SID, it was fine and great fun, and as others are doing, it is still super fun with 130 or 140 fork too.

    I think your wife will appreciate the unique geometry, she'll understand.

    What else can I tell you, oh, the seat post split is foward facing for improved dirt control, the lower link is better protected, the cabling is improved via downhill mounts, so theres no exposed cable on the downtube for improved dirt control. Um, it's a classy rig.

    I bought my green machine from the LBS, they offered a gloss coat option and I said yes. So they stripped it down, sent it away, it came back gloss coated, was reassembled and it might be my wishful thinking, but I reckon the dirt washes off easier.

    I reckon you need a Highball to 007

    Cheers

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    So there are three major factors pushing me towards this bike . . .

    1.) I want something lighter. My BLT-2 is 30.9 lbs and I'd like to shed a couple pounds from that. This will cost me pretty big $$$. I'm primarily thinking a new wheelset, which with my tastes is going to come in right around the $900 mark.

    2.) I think that the BLT-2 is a bit overkill for what I ride. I rarely leave the ground as it is. I've been thinking about lowering my fork from 150mm down to 140mm as it is.

    3.) The geo on the bike looks spot on for what Im looking for . . . relaxed HT with a decent ETT length for a more stretched out feel. The Blur has me a little more upright that I would prefer and aside from running a super long stem (and sacrificing control) I don't know how to achieve what I want. I already have 750mm bars (with an 80mm stem).

    The problem is that I don't think I can get much for my BLT frame. Even though its in impecable shape, I won't get near what I need to make the swap budget friendly.

    Now, if we're talking 29ers . . . I'd opt for a TB before the HB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    So there are three major factors pushing me towards this bike . . .

    1.) I want something lighter. My BLT-2 is 30.9 lbs and I'd like to shed a couple pounds from that. This will cost me pretty big $$$. I'm primarily thinking a new wheelset, which with my tastes is going to come in right around the $900 mark.

    2.) I think that the BLT-2 is a bit overkill for what I ride. I rarely leave the ground as it is. I've been thinking about lowering my fork from 150mm down to 140mm as it is.

    3.) The geo on the bike looks spot on for what Im looking for . . . relaxed HT with a decent ETT length for a more stretched out feel. The Blur has me a little more upright that I would prefer and aside from running a super long stem (and sacrificing control) I don't know how to achieve what I want. I already have 750mm bars (with an 80mm stem).

    The problem is that I don't think I can get much for my BLT frame. Even though its in impecable shape, I won't get near what I need to make the swap budget friendly.

    Now, if we're talking 29ers . . . I'd opt for a TB before the HB.
    I like how you think!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm View Post
    Where is that Trail ! its supurb ! nice riding, nice vid too
    thanks simonm!

    this trail is on Wildkogel in the Austrian Alps.
    exactly there Wildkogeltrail Neukirchen Salzburger Land

    That's the same mountain where the Nine Knights MTB took place 2 weeks ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    So there are three major factors pushing me towards this bike . . .

    1.) I want something lighter. My BLT-2 is 30.9 lbs and I'd like to shed a couple pounds from that. This will cost me pretty big $$$. I'm primarily thinking a new wheelset, which with my tastes is going to come in right around the $900 mark.

    2.) I think that the BLT-2 is a bit overkill for what I ride. I rarely leave the ground as it is. I've been thinking about lowering my fork from 150mm down to 140mm as it is.

    3.) The geo on the bike looks spot on for what Im looking for . . . relaxed HT with a decent ETT length for a more stretched out feel. The Blur has me a little more upright that I would prefer and aside from running a super long stem (and sacrificing control) I don't know how to achieve what I want. I already have 750mm bars (with an 80mm stem).

    The problem is that I don't think I can get much for my BLT frame. Even though its in impecable shape, I won't get near what I need to make the swap budget friendly.

    Now, if we're talking 29ers . . . I'd opt for a TB before the HB.
    TB was on my short list as well. I may need to add one, or possibly a HB, to the fleet...

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    I was into this frame until I realized it was a 26er!

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    Few pics of mine that I picked up today. Transfered everything from my LT2.
    Had an awesome first ride on it today, just looking forward to doing lots more






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    Differences between the BLT and BTR????

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    I saw a green stickered up TRc at Glentress Scotland yesterday, the Dirtschool guys are using them and have them kitted out with matching components too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfas View Post
    Differences between the BLT and BTR????
    The TRc has a longer wheelbase, shorter chainstays, lower BB, but same head angle as the LT (with a 130 fork). The frame is a pound lighter than the LTc, I have come from an alloy LT so almost 1 1/2 pounds lighter.

    Main things I have noticed are that is unbelievebly stiffer, when you pedal it moves, there is no feeling of loss of power. Found the uphills a lot easier.
    It is very stable at speed, I am running a 140 fork which gives a 67.5 head angle.
    Felt easier to move around than the LT, ? due to weight or due to shorter chainstays, maybe a combination of both.
    Lower BB made me feel like I was lower in the bike which I like.
    The new kashima shock really makes a difference as well, it is much smoother.

    For me persoanlly, the bike just felt more suited to me, the geometry, ride feel etc, all really suit me and what I ride.

    LT and TR are both awesome bikes, it is just a question of what suits you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zauberer View Post
    I decided to try this shadow+, because I wanted to know if I could ride without a chainguard and don't drop my chain.

    My experience after 1 month:

    No, the shadow+ doesn't eliminate dropping the chain from the middle ring totally.
    On really ambitious descends with rocks and roots I've dropped down my chain sooner or later ...

    The shadow+ reduces the oscillation of the chain, that's for sure. My chain is more quiet, less hammering against the chainstays

    My conclusion: the shadow+ is perfect for smooth trails, but for engaged all mountain riding the shadow+ is not enough for me. A chainguide will be the way to go in the future.
    Note that the Shadow Plus RD needs some tightening of the friction mechanism after a while. It will loosen up after a bunch of hours of riding and starts to lose its effectiveness. If you read the manual you can tighten up the friction mech in under 10 minutes. It really helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bog View Post
    Note that the Shadow Plus RD needs some tightening of the friction mechanism after a while. It will loosen up after a bunch of hours of riding and starts to lose its effectiveness. If you read the manual you can tighten up the friction mech in under 10 minutes. It really helps!
    thanks!
    I remember having read this in the manual, but I forgot this.
    At the moment I will try to tighten up the friction but I will try a chainguide too.

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    to those of you who have gone from a LT2 or LTc to a TRc, how does the TRc behave in the downhills? is it still capable to cope with rough trails in spite of the short rear travel??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban View Post
    to those of you who have gone from a LT2 or LTc to a TRc, how does the TRc behave in the downhills? is it still capable to cope with rough trails in spite of the short rear travel??
    Yes, I have found mine more stable.
    Gone from an LT2 to TRc.

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    ok Frodo, I have right now a NomadC and and a LT2 and I'm really thinking about replacing the LT2 with a TRc but I need to justify myself, hehehe

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    Do you need to justify it to yourself or the wife ?

    A lot I guess wil depend on what you ride and how you like to ride it.

    The TRc seems just as capable as the LT but in a lighter and stiffer package, for what I ride it works for me.
    e.g. tracks like this, one of the grade 4's, good fun track Billy T track, Rotorua, NZ - YouTube

    I think the TRc would be a more of a departure from the Nomad C than what the LT2 is, although not having ridden a Nomad I cannot back that up.This might give you more variation between your bikes if thats what you want.

    I have a TRc and a Chameleon, works as a 2 bike set up for what I need.

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    ban, I would tend to agree with Frodo on this one. While I don't have a great deal of time on any of the LT's, I have ridden an LTc a little bit. I own a TRc and a Nomad C. I think there is more of a variation between the TRc and Nomad C compared to the LT/Nomad. The TRc can be built as serious endurance racer or long travel XC rig, or as a burly shorter travel all mountain machine. I set mine up 1x10 with XTR shifter/der/cranks, XX cassette, MT8 brakes, Thompson stem and Masterpiece post, lighter wheel and tires, and I would feel totally comfortable racing XC on it. It's super light (22.9 lbs), stiff, and fast, up and down. A quick change of wheels/tires, throw on my Reverb, swap in a wider bar and maybe a shorter stem (50mm vs 70mm) and I will go ride lift access or shuttle runs no problem. I even considered racing a mellow DH course on it. As I have a Nomad C as well, I don't feel the need to mess with tranforming the bike, but it is certainly that versatile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo1095 View Post
    one of the grade 4's, good fun track Billy T track, Rotorua, NZ - YouTube
    That looks like an awesome trail!

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    wife of course....hehe....yes, it's what you and godfather are saying, I'm looking a bike to have a wider gap between my Nomad and my current LT2, so I think it's time to save and...convince wife!!! nice trail, btw!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo1095 View Post
    Do you need to justify it to yourself or the wife ?

    A lot I guess wil depend on what you ride and how you like to ride it.

    The TRc seems just as capable as the LT but in a lighter and stiffer package, for what I ride it works for me.
    e.g. tracks like this, one of the grade 4's, good fun track Billy T track, Rotorua, NZ - YouTube

    I think the TRc would be a more of a departure from the Nomad C than what the LT2 is, although not having ridden a Nomad I cannot back that up.This might give you more variation between your bikes if thats what you want.

    I have a TRc and a Chameleon, works as a 2 bike set up for what I need.
    this is exactly what I want the TR for....
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    ban, I would tend to agree with Frodo on this one. While I don't have a great deal of time on any of the LT's, I have ridden an LTc a little bit. I own a TRc and a Nomad C. I think there is more of a variation between the TRc and Nomad C compared to the LT/Nomad. The TRc can be built as serious endurance racer or long travel XC rig, or as a burly shorter travel all mountain machine. I set mine up 1x10 with XTR shifter/der/cranks, XX cassette, MT8 brakes, Thompson stem and Masterpiece post, lighter wheel and tires, and I would feel totally comfortable racing XC on it. It's super light (22.9 lbs), stiff, and fast, up and down. A quick change of wheels/tires, throw on my Reverb, swap in a wider bar and maybe a shorter stem (50mm vs 70mm) and I will go ride lift access or shuttle runs no problem. I even considered racing a mellow DH course on it. As I have a Nomad C as well, I don't feel the need to mess with tranforming the bike, but it is certainly that versatile.

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    Does anyone know if you can you run a flush bottom headset cup on the TRc? Will the fork still clear the downtube? I want to run a Float 36 reduced to 140mm and would prefer to use the flush cup to keep the front low enough.

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    Anyone got an idea what length rock-shox reverb seatpost I should use on an XL TrC? 380mm or 420mm? I'm 6'4"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Anyone got an idea what length rock-shox reverb seatpost I should use on an XL TrC? 380mm or 420mm? I'm 6'4"
    lardy,
    I'm 6' riding a large TRc and a large Nomad C. I've got a 380mm Reverb. It's got way more material in the seat tube than I need. I might have 1"-1 1/2" of seat post exposed between the collar and the top of the seatpost. For reference I ride a 350mm Thomson Masterpiece post on the TRc when I'm not running the Reverb. I haven't measured how much post I have exposed, but I know I have more in the seat tube than SC calls for.

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    Godfather - thanks for that - will go with the 380 as it looks like I should have more than enough with that

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    lardy,

    For reference, I measured my Masterpiece post on the TRc frame today. I measured approx. 8", or about 200mm from the top of the seat tube to the seat rail. That's on a 350mm seat post. As I said, with the Reverb I could only lower the post about another 1"-1.5" into the seat tube from where I normally ride with it, but I could easily raise it 3"+ and still have more than enough post in the seat tube to meet SC's requirements. As long as you don't have much more than 10"-11" of exposed seat post, I think you will be ok with the 380, given the 100mm minimum insertion requirement. If you are close to that 11" range, the 420mm version might be the safer bet.

    Hope that helps!

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    Any build with 32 Talas 150 ? Too high ???

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    150 voids the warranty. Besides, 130 is perfect.

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    I would recommend a 140mm fork.
    The TRc frame geometry and stiffness with this super rear suspension earns every millimeter of front travel to take full advantage of the potentiality of this great bike.

    have a look what Mike Ferrentino says:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bog View Post
    Note that the Shadow Plus RD needs some tightening of the friction mechanism after a while. It will loosen up after a bunch of hours of riding and starts to lose its effectiveness. If you read the manual you can tighten up the friction mech in under 10 minutes. It really helps!
    After trying this but still loosing my chain in rough terrain, I put a chainguide on my TRc. I'm sure this problem is solved now with a shaman racing enduro chainguide.

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    I seriously think this bike could lead to a divorce...or to me selling some bikes out of my garage. I have been saying that I wanted a FS for my 30th birthday, but this is the machine I have been waiting for. Always loved the looks of a shorter travel slopestyle bikes, but have been wanting one with more of an XC twist in weight and geometry. This bike would be a great compliment to my 29er SS and Pugsley.

    Keep the pictures coming.

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    Seriously considering this bike to replace my current Blur 4X, which has been my favorite trail bike for many reasons. The one thing that may hold me back is that the TRc still uses a QR 135 mm rear axle, which is one complaint I have with my 4X. It has noticable flex in hard turns and sometimes the QR gets misaligned in fast, rough, rocky sections of trail. So far, I have not been able to determine that it is just a QR issue, as it has happened with 2 different rear wheels and QRs.

    Do any of you current TRc owners notice too much flex around the rear axle? Do you know if the drop outs will actually fit a 10 mm rear axle instead? (I can't fit one in my 4X)

    Any feedback would be appreciated. Is anyone thinking "I wish they had specified this frame with a 142 mm axle"

    thanks!

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    While I'm a fairly light rider (155-160lbs) riding a large TRc, and I may not be stressing the rear end like some of the bigger, stronger guys, I would have to say that I sense no discernable flex in the rear end of my bike. I also have a Nomad Carbon, and while it feels slightly more robust in general, the rear end doesn't feel noticeably stiffer in terms of seat of the pants feel. Santa Cruz has been pretty vocal in saying that the addition of a thru axle on either of these frames had very little effect on rigidity, tracking or performance of the rear end, and the additional weight had no significant benefit.

    My two cents...

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    QR quality

    Not all QRs are the same. I had new wheels and brakes on my Chameleon and I was getting movement from the the QR. After rough stuff the rear brake would start to rub etc. I replaced the QR with a much more expensive QR and I haven't had a problem since.

    On my blur XCc I ran a 10mm rear axle - it stiffens things up nicely. As SC have said to, I don't think you will notice any difference between a solid 10mm and a 12mm axle. There are other forces at play elsewhere to worry about.

    Anyway, yes I run the same 10mm rear axle on my TRc. It works fine, and I have the piece of mind that it will be stiffer than a QR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scn View Post
    Seriously considering this bike to replace my current Blur 4X, which has been my favorite trail bike for many reasons. The one thing that may hold me back is that the TRc still uses a QR 135 mm rear axle, which is one complaint I have with my 4X. It has noticable flex in hard turns and sometimes the QR gets misaligned in fast, rough, rocky sections of trail. So far, I have not been able to determine that it is just a QR issue, as it has happened with 2 different rear wheels and QRs.

    Do any of you current TRc owners notice too much flex around the rear axle? Do you know if the drop outs will actually fit a 10 mm rear axle instead? (I can't fit one in my 4X)

    Any feedback would be appreciated. Is anyone thinking "I wish they had specified this frame with a 142 mm axle"

    thanks!
    I run King HD rear hub with fun bolts on my Nomad. A lot stiffer than the 135 QR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scn View Post
    Seriously considering this bike to replace my current Blur 4X, which has been my favorite trail bike for many reasons. The one thing that may hold me back is that the TRc still uses a QR 135 mm rear axle, which is one complaint I have with my 4X. It has noticable flex in hard turns and sometimes the QR gets misaligned in fast, rough, rocky sections of trail. So far, I have not been able to determine that it is just a QR issue, as it has happened with 2 different rear wheels and QRs.

    Do any of you current TRc owners notice too much flex around the rear axle? Do you know if the drop outs will actually fit a 10 mm rear axle instead? (I can't fit one in my 4X)

    Any feedback would be appreciated. Is anyone thinking "I wish they had specified this frame with a 142 mm axle"

    thanks!
    Easy fix, run a DT Swiss 10 mm RWS. Will give you 99% of the stiffness of a 12mm axle and all you'll ever need in the context of this bike. All you need is a rear hub in a 10x135 thru-axle configuration. ->


    Hadley and King also both offer 135 bolt-on options that are reasonably light. The Hadley is available in a Ti configuration even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Err View Post
    Easy fix, run a DT Swiss 10 mm RWS. Will give you 99% of the stiffness of a 12mm axle and all you'll ever need in the context of this bike. All you need is a rear hub in a 10x135 thru-axle configuration. ->


    Hadley and King also both offer 135 bolt-on options that are reasonably light. The Hadley is available in a Ti configuration even.
    Will these work on an AL BLT-2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scn View Post
    Do any of you current TRc owners notice too much flex around the rear axle?
    thanks!


    No, no noticeable flex at the rear end with a standard 5mm DT-Swiss RWS 135mm QR

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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    Will these work on an AL BLT-2?

    they'll work on most any 135 QR frame.

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    here is some pics of my trc and some from my shop.
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    I wish my LBS had some of these built up to demo . . . as much as I love my BLT-2, I am really wanting a carbon frame and based on what I have seen and read of the TRc, its much more inline with my riding style. The BLT I think is a bit overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm View Post
    many thanks, I'm very happy with it.. Size is a small.
    Simonm, what is your high?

    Thanks.

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    Anyone running a Fox 32/120 .....have a spare fork in my garage that might allow an economy build of the TRc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    Anyone running a Fox 32/120 .....have a spare fork in my garage that might allow an economy build of the TRc
    I'd also like to know. That's what I'd be putting on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm View Post
    Urm.. I own a TRc and a Nomad C too... is there a pattern here ?
    Yup, most likely. Just ordered a TRc to complement the Nomad alum. The Nomad has definitely made me a stronger rider uphill but you certainly feel it after 2-3 hours of climbing.

    This is why I think the TRc and Nomad is a great combo: on long XC rides with lots of climbing it'll be the TRc (majority of my riding); on shorter rides it'll be the Nomad (this will help keep the legs fit); on shuttle days it'll be the Nomad with the heavier wheel set and longer fork.

    I'll post pics when the bike is ready...hopefully, by end of next week. Will be joining the club soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frodo1095 View Post
    Few pics of mine that I picked up today. Transfered everything from my LT2.
    Had an awesome first ride on it today, just looking forward to doing lots more

    Was the MRP 2X chain guide a drop in install or did you have to do any modifications? I appreciate any tips you can provide.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUNKY View Post
    I was into this frame until I realized it was a 26er!
    Its called a mountain bike, not a "26er".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricardo12 View Post
    Was the MRP 2X chain guide a drop in install or did you have to do any modifications? I appreciate any tips you can provide.

    Thanks!
    I didnt install it, was done by my LBS, but as far as I know no midifications were made in order to get it to fit.
    Runs nice as well, seems a bit more noisy than my Lopes 1x chain guide, but doesnt bother me or anything. Hasnt created any shifting issues and have had no dropped chains so I am very happy with it.

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    And you can normally use both cogs in the move? Looks and sounds very nice

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    You guys are insane for running the Lopes guides without a bash... With that low of a BB one strike to the chain/ring and bam. Your ride is over....
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    Quote Originally Posted by screamingeagle3 View Post
    And you can normally use both cogs in the move? Looks and sounds very nice
    Shifting has never been an issue, moves easily.

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    Just built up a TRc 650B....weight is 24.9lbs with frame protection in place ie. down tube protection plate, chainstay/seat stay wrapped in an old tube and 3M tape in place.

    Had to place a 3mm spacer in the shock to ensure the rear wheel doesn't bottom out on front cable stop on the back of the seatpost tube......all's good.

    Spec.
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    *Fox 32/120 Tapered RLC FIT
    *CC XiiX Headset
    *Thomson X4 70mm Stem
    *Gravity Carbon 710mm Bars
    *ESI Racer Edge Grips
    *XT Shifters
    *2012 XT Cranks 32/22t
    *Kedge Lite Bashring
    *Kedge Chain Keeper
    *Superstar Mag Lite Pedals
    *XT 10spd Derailuer
    *XT 11-36t Cassette
    *Thomson Masterpiece Seatpost
    *Charge Knife Saddle
    *XTR Trail Brakes w/Goodridge Hoses
    *Hope 160mm Floating Rotors
    *American Classic 650B Wheelset
    *Schwalbe RR 2.25 Tyres
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    Just built up a TRc 650B....weight is 24.9lbs with frame protection in place ie. down tube protection plate, chainstay/seat stay wrapped in an old tube and 3M tape in place.

    Had to place a 3mm spacer in the shock to ensure the rear wheel doesn't bottom out on front cable stop on the back of the seatpost tube......all's good.

    Spec.
    *Medium Frame w/RP23
    *Fox 32/120 Tapered RLC FIT
    *CC XiiX Headset
    *Thomson X4 70mm Stem
    *Gravity Carbon 710mm Bars
    *ESI Racer Edge Grips
    *XT Shifters
    *2012 XT Cranks 32/22t
    *Kedge Lite Bashring
    *Kedge Chain Keeper
    *Superstar Mag Lite Pedals
    *XT 10spd Derailuer
    *XT 11-36t Cassette
    *Thomson Masterpiece Seatpost
    *Charge Knife Saddle
    *XTR Trail Brakes w/Goodridge Hoses
    *Hope 160mm Floating Rotors
    *American Classic 650B Wheelset
    *Schwalbe RR 2.25 Tyres
    Photos of this build, if you please?!!!!

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    Ditto. Would love to see pic of the TRc 650b, not to mention a ride report...
    Jerome...

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    So here she is. Just the standard XT package, but with a 2X crank, MRP 2X chain guide and I replaced the crossmark tires to X King (R) and the newer Mountain King (F) both in 2.2. These tires are smaller than the 2.2 Trail King I have on the MKII (btw, she's in one of the images, just have to look carefully). I thought tire stability was going to be a problem but so far so good. I will be converting them to tubeless today.

    Upcoming changes will be to Odi cross trainer grips and a 50MM stem. Still debating on an adjustable seat post. Current weight is 24.7 with tubes and an uncut fork steerer on a large frame.

    I took her on a 30mi loop with 2,200 ft of climbing. Wow! Coming from the Nomad she flew up the hills - off course the 6 pound weight reduction helped a lot. On the downhill portion I had the same smile on my face descending as I do with the MKII. I'll have more to add once I dial in the shock and fork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tp806 View Post
    Photos of this build, if you please?!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerome... View Post
    Ditto. Would love to see pic of the TRc 650b, not to mention a ride report...
    Jerome...
    Here's pics & one of my home made bashie, it just bolts to the water bottle mounts and attaches to the BB via some velcro.....


    Spec.
    *Medium Frame w/RP23
    *Fox 32/120 Tapered RLC FIT
    *CC XiiX Headset
    *Thomson X4 70mm Stem
    *Gravity Carbon 710mm Bars
    *ESI Racer Edge Grips
    *XT Shifters
    *2012 XT Cranks 32/22t
    *Kedge Lite Bashring
    *Kedge Chain Keeper
    *Superstar Mag Lite Pedals
    *XT 10spd Derailuer
    *XT 11-36t Cassette
    *Thomson Masterpiece Seatpost
    *Charge Knife Saddle
    *XTR Trail Brakes w/Goodridge Hoses
    *Hope 160mm Floating Rotors
    *American Classic 650B Wheelset
    *Schwalbe RR 2.25 Tyres
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    Can anyone with a TRc comment on this,

    I've been asking my LBS to take a look but, on the upper pivot bolt on my TRc, the bolt does not go all the way through the frame so it falls flush with the frame on the non drive side. Can anyone else confirm that the bolt either does or doesnt end flush with the frame. I can see thread inside the hole.. just doesnt sound right.

    tyia

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm View Post
    Can anyone with a TRc comment on this,

    I've been asking my LBS to take a look but, on the upper pivot bolt on my TRc, the bolt does not go all the way through the frame so it falls flush with the frame on the non drive side. Can anyone else confirm that the bolt either does or doesnt end flush with the frame. I can see thread inside the hole.. just doesnt sound right.

    tyia
    I was concerned about this same thing on my Blur LTc. I actually took a pic and emailed it to SC and they said it was fine. That was 8 months ago and I have not had any issues with it.

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    I've had a look on my TRc pivot bolt.
    Yes, this bolt seems to be a bit short.

    No problems with this bolt since I've got my Blur Trc end of July '11

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    ahh, cool, looks like all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm View Post
    Can anyone with a TRc comment on this,

    I've been asking my LBS to take a look but, on the upper pivot bolt on my TRc, the bolt does not go all the way through the frame so it falls flush with the frame on the non drive side. Can anyone else confirm that the bolt either does or doesnt end flush with the frame. I can see thread inside the hole.. just doesnt sound right.

    tyia
    picture..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    Here's pics & one of my home made bashie, it just bolts to the water bottle mounts and attaches to the BB via some velcro.....


    Spec.
    *Medium Frame w/RP23
    *Fox 32/120 Tapered RLC FIT
    *CC XiiX Headset
    *Thomson X4 70mm Stem
    *Gravity Carbon 710mm Bars
    *ESI Racer Edge Grips
    *XT Shifters
    *2012 XT Cranks 32/22t
    *Kedge Lite Bashring
    *Kedge Chain Keeper
    *Superstar Mag Lite Pedals
    *XT 10spd Derailuer
    *XT 11-36t Cassette
    *Thomson Masterpiece Seatpost
    *Charge Knife Saddle
    *XTR Trail Brakes w/Goodridge Hoses
    *Hope 160mm Floating Rotors
    *American Classic 650B Wheelset
    *Schwalbe RR 2.25 Tyres
    Do you get full rear travel with 650B wheel set up or do you have to reduce the travel a little bit?
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    Placed some spacers for safety sake = about 120mm of travel now.....the shock already has it's travel limited from the factory....

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    good idea, here are a couple,




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    The BLT-2's look exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonm View Post
    good idea, here are a couple,



    That's interesting. Engineering best practices always recommend to thread in the through bolt with end protrude with 2-3 threads or at least flush to the threaded end. I don't think it should be exception for bike industry unless there is some special reason we don't know.
    What Santacruz say?
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    If i run a 120mm fork on the trc what would the head tube angle be?

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    68,5° HA with a 32 120mm fork I guess

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    This thread need another pic:

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