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    For blur ltc 2012 the headset is it 44mm/49mm ?
    Wanted to get angle headset but not sure about the size.

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    So the measurements will be 44 for top, 49 for bottom?

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    yes the upper is a ZS44 and the lower a EC49

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    Frame: Blur LTc size M
    Fork: Fox 32 Talas 150
    Shock: Fox RP23
    Brakeset: Shimano XT
    Rotors: Formula 180/160mm
    Handlebars: Funn Fatboy 785/15mm rise
    Stem: Raceface 60mm
    Grips: ODI Rogue
    Shifter: Shimano Deore
    Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT
    Crankset: Shimano XTR
    Chainguide: MRP G2 Mini Medium Angle
    Seatpost: Rock Shox Reverb 125mm
    Saddle: bargain-bin Felt
    Wheelset: Shimano XTR Trail
    Front Tire: Maxxis Minion DHF Exo 3C 2.5" (tubeless)
    Rear Tire: Maxxis High Roller Tubeless 60a 2.35" (tubeless)

    Not psyched on the RP23, thinking about maybe trying a CCDB. What other shocks do people recommend for the LTc? Does the LTc work better with a more linear or more progressive shock (CCDB air vs coil?)

    I may also sell the 32 Talas and buy a 2012 36 Float RLC from a friend of mine...

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    Trek7000rider, how do you like the MRP G2 guide? Did you have to make any modifications or was it set it and forget it? I happen to have a Blur LTc frame in the mail as we speak and I'm trying to decide between buying a direct mount front derailleur or a chainguide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kubikeman View Post
    Trek7000rider, how do you like the MRP G2 guide? Did you have to make any modifications or was it set it and forget it? I happen to have a Blur LTc frame in the mail as we speak and I'm trying to decide between buying a direct mount front derailleur or a chainguide.
    The guide mounted up with 0 modifications, just took a good bit of tweaking to get running smooth like with any other guide. I did get the medium angle guide which is supposed to be the best fit with VPP bikes, but I've heard that some people have had success with the normal g2 mini.

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    Jumped on a 2012 36 Float rlc (lowered to 150mm) on Craigslist last night... Still need to cut the steerer and get it dialed, but here are some (admittedly poor) pics i took after i put the fork on:
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    And she's finally done. I'm effing loving this bike.






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    How do you like the Zee brakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    How do you like the Zee brakes?
    Zee brakes are the triple truth. I don't care what the weight penalty is. Is it overkill? Yes, but I like overkill. I do take this bike on shuttle runs though so they will come in handy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    Zee brakes are the triple truth. I don't care what the weight penalty is. Is it overkill? Yes, but I like overkill. I do take this bike on shuttle runs though so they will come in handy.
    Sweet . . . I'm no weight weenie (I rock a set of Hope's) at all. Glad to hear they are working for you, and yeah . . . its a badass bike.
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    i have just built a 2013 blur and i am a bit shocked by how close the left hand crank is to the chain stay.
    i am running xtr bb with xtr cranks and it is very close
    anyone had any issue with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    And she's finally done. I'm effing loving this bike.




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    I've been on my blur LTc for about a year now, so I figure it's time for some updated pics.

    Frame is a 2011 size XL, original build was the RAM package.

    Changes/upgrades:
    - Stans Flow EX wheelset
    - Schwalbe Hans Dampfs 2.35 EVO Trailstar TL-Ready (running tubeless)
    - Specialized Command Post Blacklite 100mm drop
    - Set up as 1x10 with 32 tooth ring and MRP G2 Mini SL
    - Funn Fatboy 750mm low rise bar
    - Sunline V-one 65mm stem
    - Oury grips
    - Shimano M530 pedals








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    Quote Originally Posted by drumstix View Post
    Great looking bike! Quick question. I noticed that your bike has a through axle rear end, is this new for 2013 or a special order?
    The newest version has the 12x142mm rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lunchwagon View Post
    I've been on my blur LTc for about a year now, so I figure it's time for some updated pics.

    Frame is a 2011 size XL, original build was the RAM package.

    Changes/upgrades:
    - Stans Flow EX wheelset
    - Schwalbe Hans Dampfs 2.35 EVO Trailstar TL-Ready (running tubeless)
    - Specialized Command Post Blacklite 100mm drop
    - Set up as 1x10 with 32 tooth ring and MRP G2 Mini SL
    - Funn Fatboy 750mm low rise bar
    - Sunline V-one 65mm stem
    - Oury grips
    - Shimano M530 pedals

    Hi

    what's the model of your Rockshox fork?

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    It's a 2011 Revelation RL 150 with the 15mm maxle. I've been pretty happy with it. Sometimes I think I want a Lyric or Fox 36 for the added stiffness, but I'm going to stick with what I have for now.

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    just got my blur ltc. will like to know for the 3m tape , there are a few sizes, which parts of the bike do i stick the 3m on ?
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by xokokx View Post
    just got my blur ltc. will like to know for the 3m tape , there are a few sizes, which parts of the bike do i stick the 3m on ?
    thanks
    Did you mean the 3M BATHROOM Tape?

    If so, I put them on areas that will have cable rubs. I also put on areas that will have mud rub when riding through thick and sticky mud - Left and right areas of inner Chain stays and seat stays. Also I put tape on the Seat and Chain Stay brace where chain slap will likely to occur.

    Congrats on your new Ride!

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    Ok thanks.

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    Just put together a new Blur LTc. I also just let go of my Heckler....bittersweet

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    your going to be sooooo stoked! I had a chance to test drive one yesterday.. incredible IMO.

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    I took it out on some techy st last night and it was outstanding. No real different feel than my Heckler other than a million times more stiff and responsive. Wow.
    How do I post pics? For some reason it is saying I have to post 10 times before I can post a pic.

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    I thought i'd get a few opinions on sizing. i've been riding a large for some time now. i'm about 6'2 or so 190. the seat tube is def. too short for my liking as i have to max it out to get proper length. i've been wondering if i should switch to an xl. i like drops and techincal stuff. i also like having a more compact cockpit. i'm worried if i go to xl i'll lose this feeling but i have never tried an xl. i would test ride one if that were an option but maybe some of you guys can weigh in. i have about a 32 inch inseam, but a long torso. thanks for any insight.

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    hi all brothers and sisters..just drop to ask..i am 5.6' height what size of blur lt carbon frame should i go for? thanks in advance

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    Frame - 2012 Santa Cruz Blur LT2 Carbon
    Shock - Fox Float CTD BV Adjust Kashima
    Fork - Fox 34 TALAS 160 FIT CTD w/Trail Adjust.
    Bars - Answer Pro Taper 720 AM Carbon Riser Bar 2012 - 1/2" Rise - 720mm
    Stem - Answer Rove AM Stem 2012 - 60mm - 31.8mm
    Headset - Hope Pick n Mix Headsets - Top Cup - 1.1/8" - Integral 43.95mm & Bottom Cup - 1.5" - Traditional 49.57m
    Headset spacers - Answer Logo Spacer 2012
    Grips - ODI Ruffian with ODI Lock-Jaw Clamps / Snap Caps.

    Rear Shifter – Shimano XT M785
    Rear Mech - Shimano XT M785
    Front Shifter - Shimano XT M785
    Front Mech - Shimano XT M785
    Cables - Shimano XT

    Crank - Shimano XT M785
    Chainrings - Shimano XT M785
    Cassette - Shimano XT M785, 11- 36, 10 speed.
    Chain - Shimano XT
    Bottom Bracket - Shimano XT M785
    Pedals - Point One Podiums
    Front Hub – Hope Pro2 Evo - QR15
    Front Rim - NoTubes – ZTR Flow EX
    Rear Hub - Hope Pro2 Evo - QR
    Rear Rim - NoTubes – ZTR Flow EX

    Rear Axle - Hope QR Steel Skewers
    Tyre Front - Hans Dampf Evo Snake Skin TrailStar
    Tyre Rear - Hans Dampf Evo Snake Skin PaceStar
    Tyre Sealant - Notubes Stans Tire Sealant.

    Front Brake Lever – Formula The One Factory
    Front Caliper - Formula The One Factory
    Front Rotor - Formula Floating Rotor 180mm
    Rear Brake Lever - Formula The One Factory
    Rear Caliper - Formula The One Factory.
    Rear Rotor - Formula Floating Rotor 180mm

    Saddle - Gobi XM
    Post - Reverb 125 Seatpost 30.9 x 380mm MMX
    Clamp – Santa Cruz

    Weight: 13kgs (29lbs)

    Very much in an AM set up just now and will look to getting a light weight set of rims and tyres come the spring for some more XC type riding.

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    $3100 for a 2013 Blur LTc with XT build, Zee Brakes, Fox 34 Kashima w/trail adjust

    This is a dang deal!

    **PRICE REDUCED** 2013 Santa Cruz Blur LT Carbon (XL) - Pinkbike

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    And she's finally done. I'm effing loving this bike.
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    Dang good deal here:
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    This is a dang deal!]
    I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are super hard up on cash for any myriad number of reasons . . . . but c'mon man. This site is free for us . . . the least you could do is fork over $2 for some adspace instead of linking to ANOTHER ad forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are super hard up on cash for any myriad number of reasons . . . . but c'mon man. This site is free for us . . . the least you could do is fork over $2 for some adspace instead of linking to ANOTHER ad forum.
    For sure, should've just posted this in the first place....**PRICE REDUCED** 2013 Santa Cruz Blur LT Carbon Frame/Fork (Red/XL) - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories

    Sorry for the bombarding, it will stop now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanM View Post
    For sure, should've just posted this in the first place....**PRICE REDUCED** 2013 Santa Cruz Blur LT Carbon Frame/Fork (Red/XL) - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories

    Sorry for the bombarding, it will stop now.
    Good on you, man. GL with the sale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danridesbikes View Post
    Does it come with crown race for 1 1/8" straight or tapered steerer tube?
    Do you guys know if its easy to switch between the two using a different crown race, like on the other cane creek headsets?

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    Weighs about 32 lbs according to a digital bathroom scale, but I'll be going from heavy duty tubes to tubeless shortly, which should save a good bit of rotating weight...

    Unfortunately I had shoulder surgery a couple days before I got the shock, so I haven't been able to try it out. Those of you running coil shocks on your blur lt's-- what spring are you running? I'm 140lbs with gear, but I usually run my bikes a little on the stiff side. Currently have a 400 on the shock but I'm thinking I might get a 350 to try.

    Also debating either offset shock bushings or an angleset/works headset...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek7000rider View Post
    Those of you running coil shocks on your blur lt's-- what spring are you running? I'm 140lbs with gear, but I usually run my bikes a little on the stiff side. Currently have a 400 on the shock but I'm thinking I might get a 350 to try.

    Also debating either offset shock bushings or an angleset/works headset...
    Hey man, I just ran thru the TF Tuned spring calc based on your info... I got ~275lbs spring for you. Hell, I'm 190 geared up for trail riding and I ride a 350lbs Obtainium (3" stroke spring) on a Marz Roco WC w/ ~4 turns on the preload collar. to get ~28% sag. This agrees w/ the TF Tuned spring calc for a shimmed/VPP combo.

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    How you liking the Blur LTc? I'm thinking of geting one of these.
    Quote Originally Posted by jonesy07 View Post
    Heres mine. I have just posted this but somehow i put it in TBc section. Sorry guys.

    Spec is :


    Blur LTc size Large
    Fox34 160 Float
    Cane Creek DBAIR
    Easton Haven carbon wheels
    XTR drive and Trail brakes
    X0 type 2 rear and shifter (1x10)
    Fatbar (waiting for Enve DH to arrive)
    Prologo saddle
    XO Chain guide with E Thirteen 33T
    XTR trail peddles
    Thompson 4x stem
    Reverb

    Weight i think is just below 28 lbs but i need to get some proper scales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunt pimp View Post
    How you liking the Blur LTc? I'm thinking of geting one of these.
    Though I don't think you are asking me specifically, its a great bike and I'm quite pleased with it. It does a lot of things pretty well, but it doesn't really excel at any one thing, which is a nice trade off for me. The bike climbs well and is decently comfortable on extended climbs (6+ miles). In the techy climbs though, the front wanders and wants to lift pretty readily, however, if you know this habit, its relatively easy to compensate.

    On the descent, it also does pretty well, probably better headed down than up IMO. Its stable at speed and handles both small and large hits readily. I don't have many problems with pedal strikes either. Took it to mammoth bike park this past summer and it handled 90% of the trails there with ease. The only things I did NOT do was take any drops over 3 feet.

    I run the RP23 with a 3x10 drivetrain and a 32 Float shimmed to 140mm. Had it at 150 for ~18 months and am much happier at 140. More stable and responsive at speed.

    With all that said . . . I'd wait until at LEAST Sea Otter to see what SC is cooking up . . . rumors abound that something new is coming, perhaps a 650b. Either way though, the LT2/c and Nomad are both due for a refresh so I'd wait to see what happens.

    Something else to think about too is the TRc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunt pimp View Post
    How you liking the Blur LTc? I'm thinking of geting one of these.
    I'm happy with my Blur LTc, and I'm a one-bike person. It's crazy reliable and works for everything. The frame has 7,000 hard miles on it in all weather conditions. Still on the original bearings and there is no play or squeaks. I have no issues with a wandering front wheel, and I ride very steep ****. (Running a 140mm.)

    This said, I chose this bike a couple of years ago. If I were in the market today and wanting a SC bike, I'd be looking at the TRC and TBLT, or I'd wait for the LTc / Nomad refresh that should appear soon. The LTc is a solid performer and a quality bike, but it's been basically unchanged the last three years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polymathic View Post
    I'm happy with my Blur LTc, and I'm a one-bike person. It's crazy reliable and works for everything. The frame has 7,000 hard miles on it in all weather conditions. Still on the original bearings and there is no play or squeaks. I have no issues with a wandering front wheel, and I ride very steep ****. (Running a 140mm.)

    This said, I chose this bike a couple of years ago. If I were in the market today and wanting a SC bike, I'd be looking at the TRC and TBLT, or I'd wait for the LTc / Nomad refresh that should appear soon. The LTc is a solid performer and a quality bike, but it's been basically unchanged the last three years.
    Thanks. I was just curious. The Blur LTc frame is on sale for a great price right now. Don't know if I can pass it up

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    Late to the game. Was originally saving for a TRc, but could not pass up the Garage Sale deal. Played the patience, internet game and got everything on sale or bidding wars on Ebay.

    Frame Santa Cruz Blur LT Carbon 2012 frame matte black
    Rear Shock Fox Racing Shox Float CTD Kashima
    Fork Fox Racing Shox 32 Talas 150 CTD Fit Fork
    Headset Chris King Inset 3 Red
    Handlebar Easton Haven Carbon Black
    Stem Thomson X4 70mm Black
    Grips ODI Lock-On Grip - Rogue Red
    Brakes Avid Elixir 9 Disc Brake White OEM
    Brake Levers Avid Carbon Black
    Shifters SRAM X.0 Trigger Shifters Chrome
    Front Derailleur SRAM X.0 Direct mount
    Rear Derailleur SRAM X.9 Type 2 Grey, long cage
    Cranks SRAM X.9 2x10 Speed Crankset White
    Chainrings SRAM X.9 36-22 with Bashguard
    Bottom Bracket SRAM GXP Grey
    Chain KMC X-10 Ti Chain
    Cassette SRAM PG-1050 10 speed 11-36
    Pedals Crank Brothers Candy 3 Pedals Red
    Front Rim Stan's NoTubes FlowEx White
    Rear Rim Stan's NoTubes FlowEx White
    Hubs Chris King ISO Disc Hub Red
    Spokes DT Swiss Competition Black w/ red nips
    Front Tire Kenda Nevegal DTC tubeless 2.35
    Rear Tire Kenda Nevegal DTC tubeless 2.35
    Saddle WTB Rocket V Team Saddle Black
    Seatpost KS LEV
    Seatpost Clamp Salsa LipLock Red

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honolii29 View Post
    Late to the game. Was originally saving for a TRc, but could not pass up the Garage Sale deal. Played the patience, internet game and got everything on sale or bidding wars on Ebay.
    Don't feel bad, I ride with a guy who is sponsored by Santa Cruz and he still prefers his Blur LTc for 90% of the riding he does. His opinion actually kept me from selling my LTc and getting a TRc.
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    Loving the ride, especially descending. I won't miss the TRc because I've never had one. I am glad I got the BLTc because even with the higher BB I still get the occaisional pedal strike where I ride, lots of technical lava. Coming of a first generation Giant Reign, the VPP feels less plush on the small stuff than the Maestro, but it climbs better to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honolii29 View Post
    Loving the ride, especially descending. I won't miss the TRc because I've never had one. I am glad I got the BLTc because even with the higher BB I still get the occaisional pedal strike where I ride, lots of technical lava. Coming of a first generation Giant Reign, the VPP feels less plush on the small stuff than the Maestro, but it climbs better to me.
    Great looking bike. I really like the subtle red accents . . . its easy to over-do a "color theme" and I think you've kept it classy.

    I've never ridden a Maestro before, but I agree that the BLT can be a little harsh . . . really make sure to take the time to tune the shock, and in all honesty you might consider getting it PUSH'd. I think the shock is the limiting factor . . . not the design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honolii29 View Post
    Loving the ride, especially descending. I won't miss the TRc because I've never had one. I am glad I got the BLTc because even with the higher BB I still get the occaisional pedal strike where I ride, lots of technical lava. Coming of a first generation Giant Reign, the VPP feels less plush on the small stuff than the Maestro, but it climbs better to me.

    KONA....sweet, I just spent a week out there and was wondering what it would be like to eat schite on the terrain out there. I know the novice surfing was bad enough, hard to imagine being on the mtb. A brief run on the beach around Mauna Lani area put my ankles through the test and nicely ate up my running shoes.

    Sweet build on the BLTc, I had to block myself from the SC Store during their sale as I could easily justify three more projects with their frame sale. I'm quite happy with my 2012 BLTc and it's set up with Maxxis Ardent 2.4 to eat up the snow packed trails of Northern NM (I've been meaning to post it but with limited time to ride I gotta be in the saddle whenever I have a free moment).
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    Have you decided what size of BLTc is for you yet? I am right there with you on that (I'm 5-5), my first BLTc was a med and when opportunity knocked I switched to the small. I actually dig both frames. I rode the med with a short 70mm stem and a straight post. I loved the climbing and slower rides on the med frame. When I pointed it down I did not feel as confident as I do on the small frame. I have the small frame set up with a longer stem and wish that my Reverb post was set back. It seem like I am truly in between sizes, as I feel advantages on both sizes. I'm currently riding the small and have my medium out for sale. I spend a lot of time on a SS 29r so when I'm on the BLTc I'm all about the cheek to cheek descents, so I've decided to love on the small frame rather than the medium while saving my grueling long mile rides for the hardtail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OO7 View Post
    I've never ridden a Maestro before, but I agree that the BLT can be a little harsh . . . really make sure to take the time to tune the shock, and in all honesty you might consider getting it PUSH'd. I think the shock is the limiting factor . . . not the design.
    Agreed.
    The best I've had on my BLTc was a Roco WC coil, and it still needed a bit of work... Now I've been spending some time tweaking w/ a Monarch RC3+...opening the shim stack up a bit. All I can say the potential of the BLTc frame is really limited by a crappy (Fox) shock! I overshot the opening of the RC3+ (almost NO LSR damping now) and it still did better than any RP23 and DHX 5 Air I've had on my frame. And, the frame was NOT harsh w/o LSR...but was a bit of an out of control pogo stick doing the slow speed tech/chunder riding...but a cloud at high speeds!

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    Don't most reigns come with fox shocks? Are those shocks working better with the maestro?

    Having had RP23 and CTD on the BLT, CTD > RP23. Better say, CTD >>>>> RP23. I never liked the 23.

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    a question to anyone who has ridden an aluminium nomad as well as a blur lt carbon.
    which one is a stiffer frame?

    think clyde and XL frame with a 160 lyrik, and I'm trying to figure out which one would be more suitable in terms of stiffness.
    hope I'm not hijacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p_cycle View Post
    a question to anyone who has ridden an aluminium nomad as well as a blur lt carbon.
    which one is a stiffer frame?

    think clyde and XL frame with a 160 lyrik, and I'm trying to figure out which one would be more suitable in terms of stiffness.
    hope I'm not hijacking.
    I've had Aluminium and Carbon Blur LT's and a Carbon Nomad, all with similar builds (aggressive AM build with 36's up front), and ridden alloy nomad. Both carbon bikes were a bit stiffer than the alloy versions, although not that much that it really made a huge difference. At the end of the day weight and geometry were the deciding factors for me. I currently back on the Blur LTc as I prefer the shorter wheelbase and handling. Easier to pop off things and more fun. Nomad was more point and shoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p_cycle View Post
    a question to anyone who has ridden an aluminium nomad as well as a blur lt carbon.
    which one is a stiffer frame?

    think clyde and XL frame with a 160 lyrik, and I'm trying to figure out which one would be more suitable in terms of stiffness.
    hope I'm not hijacking.
    I have 2007? Nomad (Marz 66 RC2 170mm/Fox DHX 5.0 coil) and a Blur LTc (Marz 55 Micro Ti 160mm/Manitou Evolver). The LTc, to me, is much more stiff than the Nomad, and the Nomad is very stiff. I have never ridden a more stiff bike, especially in the rear triangle, than the Blur LTc.

    But, I think they are different bikes for different uses. I find my LTc is more fun on my trails, which do not have extended downs, but lots of rocky ups and downs. Of course, it is fun to take the Nomad on these same trails--as grahamt said, more p and s.

    You are not considering a Nomadc? Just a stiff as the LTc maybe.

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    nomad c is way off budget.
    ltc is within reach only because of the current sale.

    I was thinking ltc, with an internal lower cup headset for my 160 1 1/8 lyrik, would keep geometry at around 150 normal headset equivalent and the rigidity of the 35mm fork. concerned about the seat angle with a 160 fork and that it will sit way into the travel.
    no extended downs here as well, but plenty rocky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p_cycle View Post
    nomad c is way off budget.
    ltc is within reach only because of the current sale.

    I was thinking ltc, with an internal lower cup headset for my 160 1 1/8 lyrik, would keep geometry at around 150 normal headset equivalent and the rigidity of the 35mm fork. concerned about the seat angle with a 160 fork and that it will sit way into the travel.
    no extended downs here as well, but plenty rocky.
    That's effectively my current setup but with 36's. You wont regret it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p_cycle View Post
    nomad c is way off budget.
    ltc is within reach only because of the current sale.

    I was thinking ltc, with an internal lower cup headset for my 160 1 1/8 lyrik, would keep geometry at around 150 normal headset equivalent and the rigidity of the 35mm fork. concerned about the seat angle with a 160 fork and that it will sit way into the travel.
    no extended downs here as well, but plenty rocky.
    Quote Originally Posted by grahamt View Post
    That's effectively my current setup but with 36's. You wont regret it.
    Do you mean zero stack when you say internal? I am considering replacing the EC bottom with a ZS. I think this will work since my fork has a 1 1/8" steer tube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clydecrash View Post
    Do you mean zero stack when you say internal? I am considering replacing the EC bottom with a ZS. I think this will work since my fork has a 1 1/8" steer tube.
    I've got a zero stack ZS reducer with 1 1/8 steerer.
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    zero stack is what I meant indeed.
    ZS49/30 by cane creek to be exact. specs say 4mm height for the lower cup, and the sc official geo accounts for a 529 A-C and 15mm lower cup height.
    so in paper we have only 5mm increase in total stack with a 545 A-C 160 fork.
    pretty close I guess and grahamt verifies that.

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    I have decided to change to a ZS. Thanks for the replies.

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    Can anyone recommend a chain retention device for a 2 x 10 chainset om my 2011 Blur LTc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelak999 View Post
    Can anyone recommend a chain retention device for a 2 x 10 chainset om my 2011 Blur LTc?
    Does your 2x10 setup have a bash guard or no?

    i use a blackspire stinger bb mount on my 2x9 setup but i believe it requires a bash guard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelak999 View Post
    Can anyone recommend a chain retention device for a 2 x 10 chainset om my 2011 Blur LTc?
    I use the Bion. C-guide on my LTc. It is working very well so far, but I would not be surprised if it gets ripped off on some ride. I use a bash/32/22 crank. Search the forums for other discussions on its use and failures. If you are using a double crank (no bash), I think MRP has made a device. Check them and the Santa Cruz site for info.

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    Im using a XT M785 double crankset with 38 & 26 rings.
    Im not keen on the Bionicon and would rather get a E13 style thang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelak999 View Post
    Im using a XT M785 double crankset with 38 & 26 rings.
    Im not keen on the Bionicon and would rather get a E13 style thang.
    It appears your cranks are non bash compatible. The ltc doesn't have iscg mounts (unless you have the one they just released), so a bottom bracket mount is the only possibility. Don't Know of any that work without a bash guard. Have you considered trying a clutched rear derailleur like the shimano shadow or sram type 2. i hear they work pretty dang good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sra1218 View Post
    It appears your cranks are non bash compatible. The ltc doesn't have iscg mounts (unless you have the one they just released), so a bottom bracket mount is the only possibility. Don't Know of any that work without a bash guard. Have you considered trying a clutched rear derailleur like the shimano shadow or sram type 2. i hear they work pretty dang good.

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    Well, a BB mount can work, but you cannot really get the roller above the bottom of the crank (which you want to do). Others have used the stinger or similar, and kind of bashed the roller into the chainstay. There are some other threads on this.

    I tried the shadow + on my XC HT which has a double crank. It worked OK, but it made the rear shifting not as easy (I use XTR shifters). I ended up turning the + off, and, yes, using a C-guide. But some really like the +.

    ISCG mounts on the new LTc. Hmmm. Maybe they changed the chainstay a little so that a retention device works better. I seem to remember that Santa Cruz said on their site before for the "old" LTc that is wasn't really designed for a chain retention device.

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    Yeah im not sure how they pulled it off but i know the new one has iscg mounts, angled grease ports to prevent damage, and a 142mm thru in the rear. I have heard they only added the 142 due to customer demand, and that they didn't even really notice a difference between the standard quick release and the 142 thru. Id love to have iscg on my blur ltc but it could be worse. Have you though of tryign the sram type 2 over the shadow? I love the feel of the x0 shifters. I bet paired with a type 2 would be pretty darn good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sra1218 View Post
    I have heard they only added the 142 due to customer demand, and that they didn't even really notice a difference between the standard quick release and the 142 thru.
    I will notice the difference every time the rear wheel moves in the dropout and the disc starts rubbing.

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    Starting to get parts together for my Blur LTc build.

    So far:

    Blur LTc frame w/CTD Kashima shock - Size Small
    DT Swiss EXM 150 carbon tapered
    DT Swiss 240s 15mm front, 10mm rear
    X9 crank w/ Chris King BB

    Still deciding on 26" vs. 650b. Got plenty of time to do it, though. That's one good thing about being deployed to AFG. I can hunt for deals and make better decisions than I might make back home.

    Also: Anyone have any good ideas for a zero stack, light weight headset that will fit this frame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    Starting to get parts together for my Blur LTc build.

    So far:

    Blur LTc frame w/CTD Kashima shock - Size Small
    DT Swiss EXM 150 carbon tapered
    DT Swiss 240s 15mm front, 10mm rear
    X9 crank w/ Chris King BB

    Still deciding on 26" vs. 650b. Got plenty of time to do it, though. That's one good thing about being deployed to AFG. I can hunt for deals and make better decisions than I might make back home.

    Also: Anyone have any good ideas for a zero stack, light weight headset that will fit this frame?
    Personally, there is no way I'd convert the BLT2 to a 650b. Lots of folks have and very few have stuck with it. The BB height is what kills it for most.

    As for a headset, can't go wrong with Cane Creek or Chris King.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zelak999 View Post
    Can anyone recommend a chain retention device for a 2 x 10 chainset om my 2011 Blur LTc?
    I've been really happy with the e*Thirteen TRS+. It's what comes stock on the higher end Santa Cruz packages, and it's a pretty slick setup. Shark fin to keep the chain from dropping off the small ring, roller/guide to keep it from dropping off the top. And it has a taco bash guard underneath to save your big ring. Kind of a pain to get the spacing right, but once you do you just forget it's there and go ride.

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    Hmmm. Good point about the BB height. I ride a HT 29er as my "main" bike, but it has a fairly normal BB height. This would push the BB higher than that, and stepover height might be a little too high with 650b.

    I'll look into it.
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    My LTc has 1CM lower BB height with fat 26" tires. Skinnier 650B tires will probably not even get it to spec, at least nothing that fits in the back. There is also little gain in wheel diameter to be had.

    Measure your BB height.

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    Currently in AFG. I have the frame, fork, hubs, crank, etc. Nothing put together, so I couldn't measure anything even if I was in the country.

    But, you're saying that something like a 2.35 will only be 1cm lower than a 650b tire?

    Seems like there's not much of a discernable size difference, and parts availability will be much better with 26" wheels.
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    Blur LT Carbon Setup Thread

    I'm running a 2.35 Nobby Nic and it measures about 28.75 inches in diameter. So there can be quite a difference from a 26".

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    [QUOTE=TwoHeadsBrewing;10182285]I've been really happy with the e*Thirteen TRS+. It's what comes stock on the higher end Santa Cruz packages, and it's a pretty slick setup. Shark fin to keep the chain from dropping off the small ring, roller/guide to keep it from dropping off the top. And it has a taco bash guard underneath to save your big ring. Kind of a pain to get the spacing right, but once you do you just forget it's there and go ride.

    That looks cool, Is the E13 BB Mount? What year is your Blur LT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zelak999 View Post
    That looks cool, Is the E13 BB Mount? What year is your Blur LT?
    The guide comes in either BB or ISCG mount. My Blur is the 2012 model, so since it has ISCG tabs that's what I got.
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    I've built two Blur LTC's with 650's, one for me and one for my buddy and we absolutely love them. To me, the increase in bottom bracket height went unnoticed after a ride or two but the increase in wheel size is definitely appreciated. I thought the 650 idea was stupid for a while (before I tried it) because it seemed like a minimal increase but you definitely notice it. My Tallboy C used to be my go-to bike when I had 26" wheels on my Blur but I hardly ride the Tallboy anymore.

    As for bottom bracket height, mine is rougly 13 7/8" unloaded. My tires both measure about 27 3/4" tall (Ardent 2.25 and WTB Race 2.2).

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    Le Duke: I just built a new LTc with a "dedicated" 650b front end (fork + wheel) and 26" rear (literally just picked it up, so no pics yet). I've experimented with a 650b Pivot Firebird conversion (front and rear) and found no perceivable downside as far as BB height. Maybe I'm just not good enough of a rider to sense the height increase, in which case, ignorance is bliss. However even the Firebird with it's massive tire clearance would only accept a Neo Moto 2.3 in the back and the tire just felt undergunned for SoCal conditions.

    So I'm starting out with a 26" rim shod with a nice big Purgatory 2.2. I'd like to go for a bigger volume tire but for now it will do. BTW, the new bike has a Cane Creek 40 series headset...trouble free, nice looking and less expensive than the top drawer stuff. Pics to follow soon.

    EDIT: Finally got a ride in on the 650/26 BLTc. Front end feels tall, light and a bit "floppy". I think it would be better with a 650b on the back, but that isn't in the cards for now. Back to a 26" front wheel for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    But, you're saying that something like a 2.35 will only be 1cm lower than a 650b tire?
    Seems like there's not much of a discernable size difference, and parts availability will be much better with 26" wheels.
    Yes and Yes. In my current 26x2.4 rear there is half inch clearance in the swingarm. If you go with a bigger wheel you still need some clearance, so that distance can go down to 1/4". This will also raise the bottom 1/4 inch (6mm). Since the bottom is already lower than spec by 1 CM, you still end up in a bike that is lower than the website charts.

    That brings to your second point: There is not much difference in wheel diameter. There is a price to pay: Less parts availability and deals, less tire clearance for mud (I currently have 1/4" mud in swingarm), less rear travel, etc.

    If you are into 650B a good buy is the X-Fusion Velvet fork, designed for 650B with no clearance issues.

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    How much clearance do you have between the rear tire and frame at full compression?
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    Hi, Im new to the site... just thought id post up my planned build. Im currently riding a 2011 santa cruz butcher. I was planning on getting one more year out of it until i saw the carbon blur frames on sale for such a steal! i plan on weighing my butcher before i build up the blur frame so i can see the weight diffrence. Anyway, Here is my planned build. Everything has been shipped and now im just doing the wonderful waiting game!

    2012 Blur LTC (large)
    Fox Float 36 160 forks...(open bath, have been Pushed)
    Fox CTD rear shock
    Stans Flow rims laced to Chris King hubs
    Avid elixir 7 brakes( 180 or 160 on front and 160 rear)
    Continental Mountain king Protection tire...(tubeless 2.2 rear and 2.4 front)
    shimano XT crank (with single 34 tooth ring)
    strait line AMP pedals
    XTR 10 speed chain
    XT shadow pus medium cage rear derailleur
    xt 10 speed shifter
    xt cassette
    x-fusion hi lo post
    SDG FXR seat
    Chris king headset
    Funn Funnduro stem
    ODI ruffian lock on grips


    Im sure i left off something... and i apologize for the random parts list in no particular order... what would you guys think the bike will weigh around using those parts??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhood14 View Post
    Hi, Im new to the site... just thought id post up my planned build. Im currently riding a 2011 santa cruz butcher. I was planning on getting one more year out of it until i saw the carbon blur frames on sale for such a steal! i plan on weighing my butcher before i build up the blur frame so i can see the weight diffrence. Anyway, Here is my planned build. Everything has been shipped and now im just doing the wonderful waiting game!

    2012 Blur LTC (large)
    Fox Float 36 160 forks...(open bath, have been Pushed)
    Fox CTD rear shock
    Stans Flow rims laced to Chris King hubs
    Avid elixir 7 brakes( 180 or 160 on front and 160 rear)
    Continental Mountain king Protection tire...(tubeless 2.2 rear and 2.4 front)
    shimano XT crank (with single 34 tooth ring)
    strait line AMP pedals
    XTR 10 speed chain
    XT shadow pus medium cage rear derailleur
    xt 10 speed shifter
    xt cassette
    x-fusion hi lo post
    SDG FXR seat
    Chris king headset
    Funn Funnduro stem
    ODI ruffian lock on grips


    Im sure i left off something... and i apologize for the random parts list in no particular order... what would you guys think the bike will weigh around using those parts??
    I'd guess 28ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLMcLovin View Post
    I'd guess 28ish.
    I have similar build on my TR at 28 lbs. You lose the 1.5ish lbs over me going 1x10 so that
    about cancels out the frame weight. I'd say you're just above 28 lbs.

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    Awesome! Thats around what i was hoping for... i really wanted a bike that climbs better than my butcher and a lighter build. Ive still got my 150mm revelation dual air forks i can throw on if i feel the 160s are to much. My butcher weighs 32.6 lbs on a bathroom scale so im definitely hoping to drop 4 lbs and a bit of it will be tire weight. Right now im running 2.2 and 2.4 trail king ust tires. Stupid heavy!!! Front tire is 1100 grams alone and the rear is around 850 i believe. With the mountain king protection tires im lookin at dropping up to 1 1/2 pounds of tire weight. Anyways... thanks for the response ill keep it updated once my parts start arriving!

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    Does anyone have any data on how much the Burgtec offset bushings a) change head angle for one vs. two bushings (you can do one bushing, or both bushings, correct?) and b) change total suspension travel?

    I'd like to go 650b, drop the BB a hair, and still maintain the vast majority of the 140mm of rear wheel travel.
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    Le Duke - I have one offset bushing (Proshox) in and the BB is between 13.4" and 13.5" depending on the tire profile/tread. I'd guess the HA is pretty close to 67*, but haven't confirmed it with a trust worthy tool. No difference in ride quality to me, and certainly no frame clearance issues.

    Anyway, here's mine:





    2012 Large Blur LTc
    2012 Fox 36 Float RLC set at 150 mm with PUSH'd high volume piston kit (hooray for full travel)
    XT cranks, 175 mm
    Time ATAC carbon body pedals
    36 tooth E13 ring
    Shimano 10 speed medium cage XTR clutch derailleur (<-- best thing since toilet paper and tampons)
    XT cassette 11 X 36
    XCX ST E13 chain guide
    XT brakes (not current gen, but previous model I believe), 160 mm rear, 180 front
    DT Swiss 5.10D hoops laced to 440 rear and Hadley front
    WTB Silverado saddle
    KS 950r dropper post
    Race Face Atlas bar cut down to 760 mm
    Thomson X4 50 mm stem
    Fox Float CTD Kashima shock
    Forte Pisgah 2.3 rubber, front and back


    Checks in at a hair over 29 lbs. Could lose weight with the wheels & tires, but the dam rims won't die, and I'm not a fan of most narrower profile tires. Like to rock a carbon bar, but most of the wider models I'd prefer are way pricey. Great bike overall, especially for the sale price.
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    2012 Medium Blur LTc
    2012 RS Revelation Dual Position Air 150mm
    Chris King Headset
    Truvativ Stylo Cranks 22-32-Bash, 175 mm
    Crank Brothers Candy 1
    SRAM X0 Rear Derailleur 9-Speed
    Sram 990 11-34T
    Sram X0 Shifters
    Magura Marta SL Brakes 160 mm rear, 180 front
    Stans Olympic ZTR 355 hoops laced to Chris King Hubs
    Fizik Gobi Saddle
    Thomson Elite Seat Post
    Easton Haven Carbon Low Rise Bar
    Thomson X4 70 mm stem
    Fox Float CTD Kashima shock
    Ardent 2.25 front, Ignitor 2.1 Rear, Tubeless
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Blur LT Carbon Setup Thread-photo-1.jpg  


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    25.6 lbs ^^^

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    Anyone went from the original RP23 to a new Kashima CTD Trail Adjust on their Blur LTC? Is it worth the upgrade? Thx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polymathic View Post
    Anyone went from the original RP23 to a new Kashima CTD Trail Adjust on their Blur LTC? Is it worth the upgrade? Thx.
    My aluminum frame had RP23 and the LTc I got to replace it came with CTD. It was only $50 more than RP23 when you buy a frame. Much better shock, I got my $50 worth.

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    Just messing around...

    I haven't ridden it yet...maybe this wknd. But the new numbers look very interesting, yeah?

    Blur LTc - unshimmed...
    HTA: 69*
    BB: 13 3/4"
    160mm by Fox 36, and 140mm by Monarch RC3+, 2.4 Conti TK rear tire
    Blur LT Carbon Setup Thread-blur-ltc-unshimmed-reduced.jpg

    Blur LTc - shimmed down...
    HTA: 67*
    BB: 13 3/8"
    140mm by Fox 36, and 126mm by Monarch RC3+, 2.2 Conti TK rear tire
    Blur LT Carbon Setup Thread-blur-ltc-shimmed-down-reduced.jpg

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    Yes indeed. Looking forward to results. Are those wheels set up tubeless? I'm curious how the Reynolds work -do they hold air and not burp as well as Stans?

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    Yes indeed. Looking forward to results. Are those wheels set up tubeless? I'm curious how the Reynolds work -do they hold air and not burp as well as Stans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowshon View Post
    Yes indeed. Looking forward to results. Are those wheels set up tubeless? I'm curious how the Reynolds work -do they hold air and not burp as well as Stans?
    The Reynolds I have on there are the older MTN-C Specials that were being sold for $575 on Chainlove about a year ago. They came w/ qr and 15mm qr. But I found that you can get some DMR Revolver endcaps and turn them 20mm.
    The rims are NOT designed to be tubeless...no bead shelf. But I slapped in some Stans rubber strips and they seal up beautifully.
    Now, I'm looking for rear end caps to turn them into 142mm TA...but I don't think they'll go :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Blur LTc - unshimmed...
    HTA: 69*
    BB: 13 3/4"
    160mm by Fox 36, and 140mm by Monarch RC3+, 2.4 Conti TK rear tire
    How did you get 69* with 160mm fox 36 and that shock? Shouldn't it be slacker than spec (68) which is with a shorter fork?

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