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    Another new Santa Cruz bike coming this spring?

    Santa Cruz Bronson - 650B Enduro Racer in Carbon and Aluminum - Pinkbike

    Santa Cruz hinted that the Bronson was only the first of two big releases this spring. Sea Otter may hold another gem. we'll keep you posted.
    What could it be?

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    Yeah read that, I'd say a new 26 inch nomad.

    Why? Because in the bike vid about the bronson, they say they were working on 3 26" mules. Then they suddenly had to put out a 650B due to the demand. But they say the 26ers were really good. Longer travel is where the 26 is still selling so yeah a new nomad.

    Also have a look at the Nomad, it is completely different to the rest of the carbon bikes now, the rear triangle is the old style and the hump on the top tube etc. They are going to bring it into line with the look of all the other carbon bikes.

    That's what i reckon anyway, could be completely wrong, but definitely a 26.

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    Maybe a 650b Blur XC. The market is focused on longer-travel all-mountain 650b bikes, so a short-travel 650b XC race bike would fill a gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu View Post
    Maybe a 650b Blur XC. The market is focused on longer-travel all-mountain 650b bikes, so a short-travel 650b XC race bike would fill a gap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markymark View Post
    Yeah read that, I'd say a new 26 inch nomad.

    Why? Because in the bike vid about the bronson, they say they were working on 3 26" mules. Then they suddenly had to put out a 650B due to the demand. But they say the 26ers were really good. Longer travel is where the 26 is still selling so yeah a new nomad.
    Funny, I got the opposite out of the video- Thought Joe had said they did 2 rounds of mules and thought they had a redesigned Blur LT done, then 650b became the rage and they decided to make it 27.5 so had to go back and redo it a bit. He then says 27.5 is good for people don't like 29" or for longer travel applications, which to me means they are moving in that direction overall.

    I would bet that SC won't totally abandon 26" yet. The nomad is definitely due for an update. It will be interesting to see if they keep it 26, go 27.5, or are scrambling to make a 29" (ala Spec. Enduro). I bet they are working on both a 26 and 27.5 and waiting a couple months to see if the bronson sells or not.

    Next bike is logically a 650b V-10 and a 650b women's model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu View Post
    Maybe a 650b Blur XC. The market is focused on longer-travel all-mountain 650b bikes, so a short-travel 650b XC race bike would fill a gap.
    Except that market is incredibly well covered already by 29ers (unless you are under 5'5).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnmark View Post
    Next bike is logically a 650b V-10
    They just released a new iteration of V10 few months ago and haven't even shipped it to all customers yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mehukatti View Post
    They just released a new iteration of V10 few months ago and haven't even shipped it to all customers yet.
    Are they really still behind on orders for the last revision? It was announced almost 5 months ago and I wouldn't have guessed there is a huge DH market to fill.

    Also, you have to take into account that SC doesn't necessarily wait around to update a bike, they do it when they see a need. Maybe adding 650b makes a small market even smaller and its not a top priority for sales, but I would assume if the Syndicate are racing on 27.5 enduro bikes, they are definitely testing/riding 27.5 V-10s.

    Maybe it won't be released for sale soon, but I would bet its underway for the Syndicate guys.

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    New Nomad with a VPP3
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    Another new Santa Cruz bike coming this spring?

    170 mm travel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    Thank you, sir! Got any butter n' salt?
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    shorter travel 650? Tallboy revision/new TB model? looking forward to seeing what's next. Oh, and let's get some stigmata's going

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    Follow the newest 650b Fox fork... and you'll find SC's next 650b bike. A trail based bike based on this 140 mm fork (which is not yet available). A sub 25 lb, burlier TRc, with Maxxis Ardent rubber and 140 mm of travel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiendbear View Post
    Follow the newest 650b Fox fork... and you'll find SC's next 650b bike. A trail based bike based on this 140 mm fork (which is not yet available). A sub 25 lb, burlier TRc, with Maxxis Ardent rubber and 140 mm of travel...

    Sneak Peek: Fox 650b/27.5 140mm Fork | Mountain Bike Review
    Do you know something, or are you just putting 2 and 2 together? I think it's a solid possibility... just curious if you have inside info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiendbear View Post
    Follow the newest 650b Fox fork... and you'll find SC's next 650b bike. A trail based bike based on this 140 mm fork (which is not yet available). A sub 25 lb, burlier TRc, with Maxxis Ardent rubber and 140 mm of travel...

    Sneak Peek: Fox 650b/27.5 140mm Fork | Mountain Bike Review
    Why can't we get a burly trail fork?? 130x34 or 140x36? C'mon!
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    Isn't that just the Bronson? It's supposed to be releasing at Sea Otter whatever it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiendbear View Post
    Follow the newest 650b Fox fork... and you'll find SC's next 650b bike. A trail based bike based on this 140 mm fork (which is not yet available). A sub 25 lb, burlier TRc, with Maxxis Ardent rubber and 140 mm of travel...

    Sneak Peek: Fox 650b/27.5 140mm Fork | Mountain Bike Review

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    I'd like to see a 650b TRc personally. The Bronson looks sweet, but looks like it replaces the Blur LT and Nomad. At least it would in my quiver. The Bronson looks sweet, but it looks like too much travel and is too heavy for most of the NorCal trail riding I do on a regular basis. Like my Nomad, if I had one, it would be my road trip bike, and my first choice for the bike to take to Ashland/ Washington/ Moab etc.

    Based on the Bronson's travel though, I'm guessing anything that the Nomad replaces would be a 7" travel bike with the fox 36 170mm fork as the spec. That would fill a logical niche in their lineup.

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    Vp free c...?!

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    Another new Santa Cruz bike coming this spring?

    Probably a 650b DH'er

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    I'm hoping for a 650 AM HT, but less chameleon and more Jamis Komodo 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnmark View Post
    Funny, I got the opposite out of the video- Thought Joe had said they did 2 rounds of mules and thought they had a redesigned Blur LT done, then 650b became the rage and they decided to make it 27.5 so had to go back and redo it a bit. He then says 27.5 is good for people don't like 29" or for longer travel applications, which to me means they are moving in that direction overall.

    I would bet that SC won't totally abandon 26" yet. The nomad is definitely due for an update. It will be interesting to see if they keep it 26, go 27.5, or are scrambling to make a 29" (ala Spec. Enduro). I bet they are working on both a 26 and 27.5 and waiting a couple months to see if the bronson sells or not.

    Next bike is logically a 650b V-10 and a 650b women's model.
    That would be nice or a smaller 29 VPP for women. Looking for a bike for my wife right now, so far the Trance X in XS is the only one looking like a good fit.

    Would love to get her a TBc in small.
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    The geometry for size small 29ers simply does not work, but many women XC racers are doing it anyway. I think they're handicapping themselves but to each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigrocks View Post
    Vp free c...?!
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    Probably a 650b DH'er
    Both of these seem unlikely. Like everything else about the V-10, you'll likely see 650B on team bikes for a year or more before they make it to the general public, if they ever do. I don't think there's much of a market for freeride bikes, either, at least not compared to the kind of volume they are doing on Tallboys and TRcs.

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    I'm betting its going to be a 275 specific trail bike (i.e., a TRc designed for 650b).
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    An all mountain 29er hardtail (slack, short stays, 120-140mm fork) in both aluminum and carbon would be cool. If you trust the forums, this is a very popular category right now. There aren't really any offerings in this category in carbon, so they could make a splash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I'm betting its going to be a 275 specific trail bike (i.e., a TRc designed for 650b).
    BINGO! xc 27.5, bank on it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I'm betting its going to be a 275 specific trail bike (i.e., a TRc designed for 650b).
    All they need to do is make a new TRc rear triangle with replaceable dropouts, so you can set it up with either 26" or 27.5" wheels.

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    That would be great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    An all mountain 29er hardtail (slack, short stays, 120-140mm fork) in both aluminum and carbon would be cool.
    Dear God no!

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    I reckon its a Nomad update, its long overdue and would be typical as I've just bought a Nomad c!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by onecar View Post
    I reckon its a Nomad update, its long overdue and would be typical as I've just bought a Nomad c!...
    Doesn't really make financial sense to update both All Mountain bikes in the lineup at once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onecar View Post
    I reckon its a Nomad update, its long overdue and would be typical as I've just bought a Nomad c!...
    I don't understand at all why people keep clamoring for a Nomad update . . . . in SC's eyes, the Bronson likely IS the "update" to the Nomad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I don't understand at all why people keep clamoring for a Nomad update . . . . in SC's eyes, the Bronson likely IS the "update" to the Nomad.
    Totally wrong, broseph. The Nomad needs to be updated with VPP4, at least 185mm of travel, and a bailout parachute for when I launch too hard. I don't want any of the XC Bronson crap. 650B wheels are too weak for how hard I schralp it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddski View Post
    BINGO! xc 27.5, bank on it!
    Available end of August then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    Totally wrong, broseph. The Nomad needs to be updated with VPP4, at least 185mm of travel, and a bailout parachute for when I launch too hard. I don't want any of the XC Bronson crap. 650B wheels are too weak for how hard I schralp it.
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    Updated tallboy LT, stealth dropper post, slacker head angle bring it in line with pretty much every other long travel 29er at 68, a little more travel to be up there with the enduro when it comes out, knock a little of the CS length

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrower78 View Post
    Updated tallboy LT, stealth dropper post, slacker head angle bring it in line with pretty much every other long travel 29er at 68, a little more travel to be up there with the enduro when it comes out, knock a little of the CS length
    yes would be nice but it wont come! I would like to see aswell an updated version with a 68 head angle and more like an evo stumpi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrower78 View Post
    Updated tallboy LT, stealth dropper post, slacker head angle bring it in line with pretty much every other long travel 29er at 68, a little more travel to be up there with the enduro when it comes out, knock a little of the CS length
    Yeah not happening, at least not this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrower78 View Post
    Updated tallboy LT, stealth dropper post, slacker head angle bring it in line with pretty much every other long travel 29er at 68, a little more travel to be up there with the enduro when it comes out, knock a little of the CS length
    1) Wouldn't that me more of a new bike rather than an updated one? Tallboy E maybe?

    2) If you bring it "inline" with all the others, how would it be different than all the others?

    Copying everyone else isn't necessarily a good business model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack69 View Post
    yes would be nice but it wont come! I would like to see aswell an updated version with a 68 head angle and more like an evo stumpi.
    With all due respect, why not buy an evo stumpi then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BXCc View Post
    With all due respect, why not buy an evo stumpi then?
    Have you ridden a FSR Specialized? I wasn't impressed, like the VPP much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thrower78 View Post
    Updated tallboy LT, stealth dropper post, slacker head angle bring it in line with pretty much every other long travel 29er at 68, a little more travel to be up there with the enduro when it comes out, knock a little of the CS length
    This has to be a joke . . . . right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    I don't understand at all why people keep clamoring for a Nomad update . . . . in SC's eyes, the Bronson likely IS the "update" to the Nomad.
    Cause it's a hugely popular cult bike that's way overdue for a new model. The current frame is really heavy compared to the rest of the lineup. Needs all the "update" stuff added to it too.

    Because the designers at SC are all true 26 nuts and haven't bought out a new 26 in, what, 3 years? Seems they only bring out the 29 and 27.5 for the $$$. I think they really wanna bring out a 26. Seb kemp was racing it in the euro enduro series and loved it too.

    Of course, I could be completely wrong

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    I'm hoping something with 180mm to sit between nomads and v10's.

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    Nomad Lt 180mm travel , Float 180 up front, etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffus View Post
    Nomad Lt 180mm travel , Float 180 up front, etc....
    Yes please! Something to compete with the intense Uzzi. Only in carbon please !

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