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    5th element AIR on a Heckler?

    Found a pretty good deal on a used Heckler....has a great build with the exception of a 5th element Air rear shock. Any thoughts on this shock?
    The bike has a Pike up front.....
    I'd use it for what a Heckler was intended to be used for....
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    I've tried 2 air shox on the heckler, the fox float and the 5 element air.
    As i'm a heavy guy the heckler worked best with the 5 elememt air, very little pressure good pedal platfom (no bob). With the fox float i had to put a lot of pressure and the bike bobbed to much.

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    I'm also a big guy at 6'1 and 210 lbs. My heckler came with the 5th air and I was very skeptical at first since my previous experience with air shocks was that they just can't hold up to the abuse of a heavy or aggressive rider. I must admit though that I have been thoroughly impressed with this shock. It has a great pedal platform and performs more like a coil shock, but saves a ton of weight! I'd definitely recommend it. I've had other bikes with fox and rock shox air shocks, and in my opinion the 5th air is much better at handling "real" mountain biking.

    I have my heckler setup with a 6" sherman up front and the bike feels very well balanced. It weighs in right at 30 lbs.

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    You are taking your chances with the 5th air. Sure, there are some riders that have had few or no problems, but on the whole, the 5th air has been a sketchy shock. The progressive 5th coil is a decent shock, but I would not touch the 5th air.

    The Blur has a long history with the 5th air and shock failures.

    The Specialized Enduro had the 5th air for the first year of the new design, but switched over to a different shock after having nothing but problems and multiple shock failures.

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    Most shox fail because people doesn't read the manual.

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    ronny is right - the 5th air has a history of issues with the blur - both IFP and main chambers not holding pressure and also oil leakages. Specialised offered a custom 5th air shock with the 05 enduro but changed to fox due to similar problems also.

    im 210lbs without gear and ive been riding a blur with 5th air for 3 years without any issues whatsoever - the thing doesnt leak an ounce of pressure and I love the ride - nice and simple to tune with next to zero bob.

    i guess its a risk you need to assess - i know alot of failures have been due to users overtightening the pump attachment which causes valve failure so if you go for it then make sure you stop tightening as soon as pressure is registered on your pump!!

    good luck

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    never get the full story

    Quote Originally Posted by ronny
    The Specialized Enduro had the 5th air for the first year of the new design, but switched over to a different shock after having nothing but problems and multiple shock failures.
    Not the shocks fault............

    i believe specialized had alignment issues between their frame & swingarm on the enduro bikes for 05, and because the 5th air gravity was hard mounted (not on spherical washers as 5th recommends) the mis-alignment which was up to 1.5mm on some enduros, basically thrashed/twisted the 5th air gravity into destruction.

    i believe specialized have been cagey about the real issues and in late 05 released a tech sheet on 05 enduros and the alignment issue.

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    Never get the whole story???

    Specialized chose to spec the Enduro with a shock that has a very bad track record. The result speaks for itself. There are many Enduro riders who reported the 5th air would not hold air over the course of the ride. Other problems included the shock sticking down and complete failures. There was a hell of a lot more going on with the 5th air on the Enduro than just alignment problems.

    I was interested in the 05 Enduro until I found out about the 5th air and lack of optional shocks.
    Last edited by ronny; 02-23-2006 at 07:14 AM.

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