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    5010 Picture Thread

    I don't see an official SOLO picture thread, just the "Has anyone got their SOLO yet" thread, so post up your SOLO photos here.

    I'll post some photos of mine after I assemble it.

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    OK. I'll play. Check out those orange nipples...
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    Some assembly required
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    5010 Picture Thread-solo-haven.jpgSwapping the 750mm wide Havoc bars for 711mm Haven bars.
    I'm used to the EC70 XC bars, which are 685mm wide, so even the Havens will be wider than I'm used to.

    I found some of last year's (2012 model) Haven bars at a good price. They look to be identical to the 2013 bars except for the graphics.

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    As new as it will ever be

    Got mine last night, it won't get any newer than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiendbear View Post
    OK. I'll play. Check out those orange nipples...
    Were the orange nipples stock, or were the wheels custom built?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamK View Post
    Got mine last night, it won't get any newer than this.

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    Nice. Was this a custom build, or did you just swap the fork?

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    Nice jabrabu. Where'd you get the frame only option at? I can't seem to find them anywhere but Cambria, and they are not due to arrive till 9/15.

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    WilliamK - I'm looking at the Pike as well. Is this one 150?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmc1171 View Post
    Nice jabrabu. Where'd you get the frame only option at? I can't seem to find them anywhere but Cambria, and they are not due to arrive till 9/15.
    It wasn't a frame-only. I'm just assembling it myself. This isn't normally allowed, but I have a family bike shop connection and I get a better deal if I do the assembly myself.

    I've assembled a couple of Specialized bikes, and they require very little assembly -- pretty much just install the wheels and handlebars. But assembling Santa Cruz bikes is almost like building from scratch. The cranks and headset were installed, but that's about it. So I still have a lot of work to do. Need to trim brake hoses and bleed brakes, install cables and housings, etc. I'm going out of town in a couple of days, so it will be a couple of weeks before I finish it and ride it.

    I'm swapping the Maxxis HR2 tires for Nobby Nics, and having a really tough time getting the beads to seat, even with a compressor. I've done lots of tubeless setups before, so I'm guessing it's the Enve rims that make it tough. They came with gorilla tape and tubeless valves installed and a couple of small bottles of Stan's sealant in the box -- this is the first time I've seen a bike come set up for tubeless out of the box.

    I like the newer Shimano triggers, with multi-release, instant release, and dual-release (push and pull). I'm not crazy about the SRAM triggers, though. I plan to swap to a twist shifter later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu View Post
    Were the orange nipples stock, or were the wheels custom built?
    Custom Wheels... Stan's Arch EX rims (decals removed) with orange nipples.

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    First night home.
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    I had my LBS build a frame up for me. So yeah I guess you could kind of call it that as I selected the parts I wanted to include. The Stealth, enves and XX1 are the same as what is offered by SC though.

    Yep, I specifically wanted the Pike and it had to be as close to 130mm as possible (for my liking). And I definitely didn't want 150mm, too much for me - just wouldn't suit the balance with the rear travel and the geo all round (unless you just do gravity I suppose, but then, get a Bronson and smash it). I like 150, I love the Bronson, but it is too high and too long and a wee bit heavier. Even 140mm for the Solo seemed too much on paper, but there is no other fork available in the market anyway, I had one short ride and all is good, very very good. Wow in fact.

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    err, bad english there - "built" a frame up

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    It's starting to look like a bike.

    I still need to install the chain, shifter cable and housing, and route and trim and bleed the brake hoses and Reverb hose. Then adjust everything to fit.

    The 2.35 Nobby Nic snakeskins look to have a lot of volume.

    I wanted the solid gray stickers on the Enves to better match the gray Santa Cruz decal on the bike, but got the gray outline stickers instead. They are nice and stealthy, though.

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    I swapped the 34t XX1 chainring for a 32t that I found for $23.
    I also installed Race Face protective boots on the crank arms.

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    Looks badass jabrabu! Digging the stealth look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu View Post
    The 2.35 Nobby Nic snakeskins look to have a lot of volume.
    Sweet rig!!! How much clearance do you have on those Nobby's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyman_1970 View Post
    Sweet rig!!! How much clearance do you have on those Nobby's?
    Plenty of clearance. A big reason I decided to upgrade from my 650b TRc was so I could fit these tires. On the TRc I was limited to the 2.25 NN, which wasn't available in a snakeskin version. I think a 2.4 tire (like the Vee Trail Taker or High Roller II) would fit on the Solo no problem.

    Compared to the 29x2.3 tires on my other bikes, the 27.5x2.35 NNs look a lot fatter. The tread is only as wide as the casing, but the casing is quite wide and tall.

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    Thanks, I'm wanting to run Conti Mountain King 2.4's on mine and wanted to make sure there was going to be plenty of clearance.......those Nobby's look big......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andyman_1970 View Post
    Thanks, I'm wanting to run Conti Mountain King 2.4's on mine and wanted to make sure there was going to be plenty of clearance.......those Nobby's look big......
    According to this thread: 27.5 Tire Size Reference
    the Nobby Nic 2.35 has the largest diameter and the 3rd largest width of the 27.5 tires listed.

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    Another photo of the incomplete build.
    I'm going out of town for a week, so it will probably be awhile before it's done.
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    New crank skins work great.
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    I've had my Solo since early July, but due to circumstances beyond my control (business travel, rainstorms, etc), I am just now putting some miles on it.

    Overall, absolutely love it. I think SC has a winner on their hands. Agile, fun to throw around, and highly maneuverable.

    I bought the low-end RAM build as I am an SRAM guy, so I plan on replacing the entire drivetrain eventually. The Shimano stuff is working well for a base build, though, for what it's worth.

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    How did your local shop reduce the new Pike fork travel to 130mm? Was there any specific spacer or adapter needed?

    Thanks,
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    XX1 with Reynolds/I9 Torch wheels

    Thanks to Nate from Competitive for a great bike and great service. Stealth reverb on back order. Race face crank protectors on the way (have dinged rocks and roots on early rides, but think I'll get used to it).

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    SOLO Picture Thread

    Could an owner of the matte black/green post a photo of the LHS of their frame and also the underside of the downtube....just want to see how much gastly green there is....more pics the better...

    Also I'd appreciate someone posting the specs of their Fox CTD shock.

    Cheers

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    Here's mine:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    Could an owner of the matte black/green post a photo of the LHS of their frame and also the underside of the downtube....just want to see how much gastly green there is....more pics the better...

    Also I'd appreciate someone posting the specs of their Fox CTD shock.

    Cheers
    Here you go. This is all the green on the bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbissett View Post
    Here you go. This is all the green on the bike
    Thanks mate, looks like I can easily hide the green with some nice matte black 3M contact....love the black/haaate the greeen

    Also if you could have a look at your Fox CTD's shock and let me know the velocity/rebound/boost valve tune....muchly appreciated!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbissett View Post
    I bought the low-end RAM build as I am an SRAM guy, so I plan on replacing the entire drivetrain eventually. The Shimano stuff is working well for a base build, though, for what it's worth.
    That was exactly my plan. I bought the aluminum RAM27 kit with the intent to replace the drive train and brakes. I'm a huge 1x fan, but the 11 speed versions are just way too pricey, so I decided to go 1x10.

    First, this turned up at our office reception.

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    I completed the build and rode it home.

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    And then immediately replaced cranks with RaceFace Evolve SS and the X0 type 2 derailleur. No need for a chain guard so far!

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    Brakes are now Magura M2, that together with the ShiftMix clamps make the cockpit super clean

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    Seems I don't have any good bike pictures from the handful of rides I've taken with it in the last couple weeks, but here is a video I shot down in Soquel: Soquel Demonstration Forest - YouTube

    And finally some battle scars

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    I love this bike already. Took me a couple rides to figure out the balance, which is quite different from my old Stumpjumper 29er HT, but now I'm getting really comfortable with it. The Fox CTD shocks work great for me. Very impressed with how stiff the climb mode is.

    Super happy with this bike and the build I went for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teknolog View Post
    That was exactly my plan. I bought the aluminum RAM27 kit with the intent to replace the drive train and brakes. I'm a huge 1x fan, but the 11 speed versions are just way too pricey, so I decided to go 1x10.

    First, this turned up at our office reception.

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    It's interesting that yours came with so much already assembled out of the box -- the cranks, chain, derailleurs, cables, brakes, etc. If you look at post #3 in this thread, you can see that mine only had the cranks and headset installed. I just got back from vacation and haven't had time to finish assembling mine. Hopefully I can work on it tonight.

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    The big 2.35 Nobby Nics have good clearance.

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    I made some more progress on the build tonight. Installed the chain, got the brake hoses and Reverb hose routed and shortened, and partially installed the shift cable and housing.

    The bike weighs right at 25 lbs. with no pedals. This is a medium with the XX1 Enve kit, bars switched to Easton Haven carbon bars, and tires switched to Nobby Nic 2.35 snakeskin tubeless.

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    Got my Solo last Friday. Took it out 3 times and each ride gets better. This is the R build. Just threw an X-fusion Hilo on it and carbon bars from my old 29er.
    Loving this bike so far and find myself at work day dreaming about riding it!
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    Finally finished building mine.

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    I should get to ride it this weekend.

    I'm not sure if the stock 70mm stem will work for me (I typically use a 90mm stem), but I'll give it a try since the bars are wider than I normally use. I have an 80mm Easton EA90 stem and a 90mm Thomson in my parts bin, so I can experiment.

    I also don't know if I'll like the stock Peaty grips. I typically use ESI Chunky grips, but I'll give these a try.

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    SOLO Picture Thread

    What fork is that Jaba....

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    Installed my Hilo dropper post. Gonna drop my large chain ring for a 34t-sized bash guard to get a little extra clearance. Will eventually swap wheels out for Stan's ZTR Arch EX. My bike is almost at 30 lbs. Not sure how people are getting these so light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    What fork is that Jaba....
    That's the stock Fox Float 32 CTD with kashima.

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    That's the stock Fox Float 32 CTD with kashima.
    Length....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    Length....
    130mm. This is a stock XX1 Enve build. The only things I changed were the handlebars and tires, and I installed a 32t chainring in place of the 34t.

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    Hello everyone, sorry for my poor English but I translate with google:-P
    I wanted to know if the carbon SOLO if you ride well and is agile in climbing because I wanted to sell my highball carbon and take the SOLO C. ...
    Fitted well to what might come of weight? byby

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu View Post
    130mm. This is a stock XX1 Enve build. The only things I changed were the handlebars and tires, and I installed a 32t chainring in place of the 34t.
    I love your setup....looks sick. Have you put a scale on it to see what it comes in at yet?

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    Is this at Moab? I'm heading there in 1.5 weeks for Outerbike. Great pictures.

    Btw, anyone know why they changed the name away from Solo to 5010? visually looks the same, just wondering what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eonicks View Post
    Btw, anyone know why they changed the name away from Solo to 5010? visually looks the same, just wondering what happened.
    That was discussed in this thread. Seems they didn't vet the trademark before naming the bike, and Rocky Mountain already had it. Pretty incompetent if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eonicks View Post
    Is this at Moab? I'm heading there in 1.5 weeks for Outerbike. Great pictures.
    South of Moab. Hwy 211 leading into Canyonlands, and the Needles district in Canyonlands. (Mainly the Elephant Hill trail.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry1me View Post
    I love your setup....looks sick. Have you put a scale on it to see what it comes in at yet?
    Yep, it was right at 25 lbs without pedals.

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    My Solo on top of San Pablo Ridge facing SF Bay. The climb up was pretty insane, and one of those instances where I hate myself for going 1x10. But I do love this configuration.

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    Very nice bike....

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    All the running gear off my 650b TRc including the 26r F120 fork w/ custom decals and I covered the green decals with matte black vinyl wrap (also geat for cable run areas).

    Driveway test rides feel that it isn't a TRc (the best bike SC have ever made imo.)

    Build weight is 23.25lbs.


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    Hi Gripo, A nice stealth look to your bike there mate. Awesome light weight to. Yep, it's different, but similar. Hmm, black pikes would totally black you out there....
    Cheers W

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    White solos?

    WHITE Solos--do they exist? I have not seen one in the wild, in the shop, or on this forum. Just shades of orange and black. Anyone has one?

    I wanted a white one (because my current hardtail is orange) but ordered orange instead because the wife and daughters thought white would be too plain. Then shop called to say orange is at least 4 weeks back-ordered, but SC could ship white today. So i told them white it is.

    I'll be in for a surprise. It will be relatively rare, I guess!

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    The Aluminum SOLO comes in white. Here is a pic of the one i demo'ed in Flagstaff, AZ. Awesome bike, just waiting on the funding.[/ATTACH=CONFIG]835928[/ATTACH]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    All the running gear off my 650b TRc including the 26r F120 fork w/ custom decals and I covered the green decals with matte black vinyl wrap (also geat for cable run areas).

    Driveway test rides feel that it isn't a TRc (the best bike SC have ever made imo.)

    Build weight is 23.25lbs.

    Why do you think the TRc is better?

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    Had it for a week, finally got to take it off road. Very fun bike, looking forward to getting used to its handling compared to my last bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by g3rglit View Post
    Had it for a week, finally got to take it off road. Very fun bike, looking forward to getting used to its handling compared to my last bike

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    What build did you get g3rglit? Also, what kind of bike/setup are you coming from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by herrmannryan View Post
    What build did you get g3rglit? Also, what kind of bike/setup are you coming from?
    I got the base R spec build, but upgraded both fork and shock to the CTD-Ks. I also brought a fairly new set of XT brakes over from my previous bike. I like SRAM 2x10 and have X9 gear from my previous bike, so I'll be putting that on after a few rides as well, once I get a high-clamp FD.

    I would like some lighter wheels and tyres, but am very happy with it for the moment!

    Previous bike was a 2009 Specialized FSR Xc, with X9 running gear and XT brakes, XT wheels. Travel is about the same, although shock and fork were cheaper (X-Fusion shock, RS Recon fork). The Solo seems more playful. I'm not a geometry expert, but am sure there's an obvious reason for it. As it stands the build on the Solo is nearly a kilo heavier but didn't notice on the trails hopping rocks and logs.

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    All the running gear off my 650b TRc including the 26r F120 fork w/ custom decals and I covered the green decals with matte black vinyl wrap (also geat for cable run areas).

    Driveway test rides feel that it isn't a TRc (the best bike SC have ever made imo.)

    Build weight is 23.25lbs.

    Gripo,
    Could you please share your findings about the differences between the TRc and the Solo?

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    Hello everyone, sorry for my poor English but I translate with google:-P
    I wanted to know if the carbon SOLO if you ride well and is agile in climbing because I wanted to sell my highball carbon and take the SOLO C. ...
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    Can anyone comment on how well the Solo climbs? I like climbing nearly as much as descending (singlespeeder...can you tell ) and want something that doesnt move around a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jk View Post
    Can anyone comment on how well the Solo climbs? I like climbing nearly as much as descending (singlespeeder...can you tell ) and want something that doesnt move around a lot.
    Climbing on the Solo is great. The VPP suspension eliminates a lot of the bobbing. It's light, and loves to go uphill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jk View Post
    Can anyone comment on how well the Solo climbs? I like climbing nearly as much as descending (singlespeeder...can you tell ) and want something that doesnt move around a lot.
    Yes, climbing is excellent. No need to lock out the fork or shock. I leave both wide open in "descend" mode for most riding. For long fire road climbs, I sometimes switch to the middle "trail" setting, but I find there is no need to use the "climb" mode at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiendbear View Post
    Yes, climbing is excellent. No need to lock out the fork or shock. I leave both wide open in "descend" mode for most riding. For long fire road climbs, I sometimes switch to the middle "trail" setting, but I find there is no need to use the "climb" mode at all.
    I found this to be true and I too come from an SS background.

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    I covered the green decals with matte black vinyl wrap (also geat for cable run areas).
    Can you post pics that show what the vinyl wrap looks like? I hate the green, too

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    Gripo,
    Could you please share your findings about the differences between the TRc and the Solo?
    Before I go giving a review I think I have some sorting to do with the 26r forks?

    With only 2 rides on the Solo I have observed a more quicker turning, forward riding position and a front end that's not as easy to lift....making a bike that isn't at all like the TRc despite having almost the same geo.

    On researching Fox's A2C height of the 26 v 27.5 F120 I believe the culprit is the 17mm difference....

    Quote Originally Posted by drootang View Post
    Can you post pics that show what the vinyl wrap looks like? I hate the green, too
    The vinyl wrap is a 3M product that's being used in the automotive industry to wrap cars....found mine on eBay.

    It was flexible enough when heated gently with a hair dryer to conform with the bend under the upper down tube.....

    I have covered ALL the green decals on the bike with it.


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    I switched the chainring to a Wolftooth 30t with bash guard. The bash guard may be overkill with a 30t ring, but I ride some really rocky terrain and it gives some peace of mind. It also provides some minor chain retention, although chains usually seem to drop to the inside, not outside.

    I switched the trigger shifter to a grip shift. I like Shimano triggers okay, but really don't like SRAM triggers.

    I also installed some new XTR Trail pedals, which were replacements for a set that broke.

    The bike weighs 25.7 lbs. This is an XX1 Enve build with Easton Havon carbon bars and Nobby Nic tires. I don't know Gripo got his down to 23.25. The lack of a dropper post might save a pound, but I'd be interested in knowing where the rest of the weight savings is.
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    Actually Jaba it's easy to work out by the spec.....more a layed back XC'r build.

    Frame: SoloC w/Fox CTD shock
    Headset: CCk 110
    Fork: 26r Fox F120 CTD (some 150g lighter than F32-130mm)
    Bars: Thomson Carbon 730mm
    Stem: Easton Havoc 55mm w/Ti Bolts
    Grips: ESI Racers Edge
    Headset Spacers: Carbon
    Seatpost: Thomson Masterpiece
    Seat Clamp: Salsa QR
    Seat: Charge Scoop Ti
    Cranks: SRAM X9 w/WTC 26t DM ring
    Derailluer: Zee WR
    Cassette: XT 11-36t
    Chain: XT
    Pedals: Superstar Mag Lite (260g PP)
    Brakes: Hope Race Levers w/M4 Calipers
    Rotor: Clarks 160mm Floating (ALL brake bolts Ti)
    Wheels: Hope P2 w/Stans Crest Rims
    Tyres: F-Schwalbe NN2.25 R-Maxxis Xmark 2.25 folding both setup tubeless!!
    Other Stuff: Home made DT/BB guard & plumbers self almagimating tape around RHS chainstays & mudflap over lower pivot.


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    Gripo, definitely interested in your feedback. I'm trying to decide on a 26 TR_a or a Solo_a.

    I think the difference in lifting the front wheel is probably attributed to 2 things:
    - The longer chain stay.
    - The larger difference between the wheel axle and the BB(think BB drop).

    After a little while riding I'm curious if this still bothers you vs some of the benefits of the solo. Also interested in your take on any difference of maneuverability between the 2, harder to navigate twisty singletrack on the solo?

    Same questions for anyone else who went from 26 tr to solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dansMTB View Post
    Gripo, definitely interested in your feedback. I'm trying to decide on a 26 TR_a or a Solo_a.

    I think the difference in lifting the front wheel is probably attributed to 2 things:
    - The longer chain stay.
    - The larger difference between the wheel axle and the BB(think BB drop).

    After a little while riding I'm curious if this still bothers you vs some of the benefits of the solo. Also interested in your take on any difference of maneuverability between the 2, harder to navigate twisty singletrack on the solo?

    Same questions for anyone else who went from 26 tr to solo.
    He is also riding with a 26" 120mm fork... If anything contributes to the handling, this is it.

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    rereading his posts, I did misunderstand that - thought he was comparing the 26 on the tr to the 27.5 fork on the solo.

    Yeah, I'm more interested in the comparisons with the appropriate fork on each frame. Thanks!

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    I had a TRc with 26" wheels for awhile, then put 650b wheels on it, then I bought a SOLOc, so I can provide my personal comparison.

    First of all there were some setup differences between the bikes. The TRc had Easton EC70 bars, 685mm wide. I originally used an 80mm stem, but had trouble keeping the front end from wandering and lifting on climbs, so I switched to a 100mm stem, which worked well for me. The Solo has Easton Haven bars, 711mm wide. It originally had a 70mm stem, but I swapped to an 80mm stem. So bottom line, the Solo has wider bars and a shorter stem than the TRc did. The Solo also has the new Fox CTD fork and shock, compared to the TR's RLC fork and RP23 shock.

    Climbing: The Solo climbs better -- less bobbing and the front end stays planted better.

    Pedaling efficiency: The Solo pedals more efficiently with less bobbing. This could be due to the new VPP pivot points or the Fox CTD shock. I suspect mostly the latter, since the bike also lost some plushness compared to the TRc. On the TRc I had to add air to the rear shock (reducing sag and not getting full travel) to keep it from feeling wallowy in the mid-stroke.

    Playfulness: The TRc felt more playful and more agile -- easier to lift the front end, easier to manual.

    Descending: The TRc felt a little better on rough descents. I think this is mainly because the fork and shock were plusher.

    Cornering: For some reason I felt more confident pushing the TRc harder in corners. Since the geometries are pretty much the same, I'm guessing this is due to the different cockpit setup. The TRc absolutely railed the turns, both with 26" and 27.5" wheels. The Solo corners great too, but I just don't have the confidence to really push it like I did the TRc. However, my local trails have been pretty dry and dusty since I got the Solo, so this could have something to do with it.

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    Had my bike a while now. Couple of months maybe.
    An original SOLO. :-)

    Done lots of single track riding, fire roads and old rail trails on it.

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    Just starting my SOLO badged 5010. Still waiting for some bits and pieces,
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    Correction. Racing Ralph Trailstar rear

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    Has anyone modded their fork or removed the 10 mm spacer from their Fox setup? Curious to see how that has changed the bike.

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    Installed a 2014 Fox 27.5 Float CTD 120 today and gained 23mm in A2C height (1deg of slackness) and 210g of weight (uugh) pushing the SoloC up to 23.8lbs.

    But, the extra height has helped the SoloC feel a little more normal, not quite 650b TRc like...more towards a TBLTc, long stable.....

    I want to spend a little more time on the Solo before giving more concise feedback, but at this stage I'd recommend that if you are considering to move on from a converted TRc that you get some test rides on the Solo.

    The pros/cons are really personal ie. ranging from what you like in a bikes ride qualities to even the conditions you ride in.

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    As New as it gets, Still a SOLO not a 5010, upgraded forks to 140mm 32s with Kashima,
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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    Has anyone modded their fork or removed the 10 mm spacer from their Fox setup? Curious to see how that has changed the bike.
    +1 here. Also, with no air, are people seeing the o ring pushed all the way to the crown under compression? Mine only goes to the middle of the "Kashima" logo. Too much oil in the air chamber? Something else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    Installed a 2014 Fox 27.5 Float CTD 120 today and gained 23mm in A2C height (1deg of slackness) and 210g of weight (uugh) pushing the SoloC up to 23.8lbs.

    But, the extra height has helped the SoloC feel a little more normal, not quite 650b TRc like...more towards a TBLTc, long stable.....

    I want to spend a little more time on the Solo before giving more concise feedback, but at this stage I'd recommend that if you are considering to move on from a converted TRc that you get some test rides on the Solo.

    The pros/cons are really personal ie. ranging from what you like in a bikes ride qualities to even the conditions you ride in.
    Thanks for the input...
    Do you still consider the TRc the best bike SC has ever made?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadTony View Post
    +1 here. Also, with no air, are people seeing the o ring pushed all the way to the crown under compression? Mine only goes to the middle of the "Kashima" logo. Too much oil in the air chamber? Something else?
    Using Jabaru's explanation from another thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu View Post
    "I opened the new Fox CTD fork on my Solo. Some oil came out of the lowers, but I'm not sure if it was the full 30cc recommended. At least they weren't dry. (On the Fox RLC that came on my TBc, only a few drops came out when I opened it up, so it was nearly dry when new.) The seals still had some visible grease inside them.

    The float fluid in the air chamber looked to be the correct amount.

    I soaked the foam rings, put 30cc of oil in each of the lowers, and a tube of float fluid (5cc) in the air chamber. It does have noticeably less stiction now. I had rebound set fully fast before and it still felt a little slow, but after servicing it I needed to dial in some rebound damping (about 4-5 clicks in from full fast)."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gripo View Post
    Installed a 2014 Fox 27.5 Float CTD 120 today and gained 23mm in A2C height (1deg of slackness) and 210g of weight (uugh) pushing the SoloC up to 23.8lbs.

    But, the extra height has helped the SoloC feel a little more normal, not quite 650b TRc like...more towards a TBLTc, long stable.....

    I want to spend a little more time on the Solo before giving more concise feedback, but at this stage I'd recommend that if you are considering to move on from a converted TRc that you get some test rides on the Solo.

    The pros/cons are really personal ie. ranging from what you like in a bikes ride qualities to even the conditions you ride in.
    120? Do you mean 140?

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    120? Do you mean 140?
    I believe he ment 120.
    He was on a 26" 120 before and is on 650b 120 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    I believe he ment 120.
    He was on a 26" 120 before and is on 650b 120 now.
    I'll be darned. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadTony View Post
    +1 here. Also, with no air, are people seeing the o ring pushed all the way to the crown under compression? Mine only goes to the middle of the "Kashima" logo. Too much oil in the air chamber? Something else?
    Middle of the Kashima logo is bottom out. That's as far it goes. Run some really low pressure, then bottom it out. You'll feel the bottom out. Won't go any further regardless of oil level.

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    Middle of the Kashima logo is bottom out. That's as far it goes. Run some really low pressure, then bottom it out. You'll feel the bottom out. Won't go any further regardless of oil level.
    My new Fox 27.5" F120 has an actual stauchion length of 130mm.....but with all the air out only pushes the o-ring to 120mm....

    This is normal for Fox forks to have 5-10mm of extra staunchion above the claimed travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiendbear View Post
    Middle of the Kashima logo is bottom out. That's as far it goes. Run some really low pressure, then bottom it out. You'll feel the bottom out. Won't go any further regardless of oil level.
    Exactly. That's what I meant by "with no air"- with the pressure in the fork fully vented to ambient pressure. My confusion is that I measure the travel to the middle of the Kashima logo to be 5-10 mm short of the 130, and I didn't know if an excess of oil (incompressible) could cause a premature "bottom out" feeling. Good to know that it stops where it should on my fork. I suppose removing the spacer would further extend the fork in the uncompressed position, if I wanted more travel, but I think I'll see how it goes as is. Thanks for the info!

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    Remember when 130 mm was a LOT of travel? Now 130 mm is just the starting point of long travel bikes and considered "trail" and not AM.
    My old Stumpy 26er from 2008 was 120 mm front and back so I guess the Solo is pretty comparable. VPP suspension doesn't feel as plush even though the Solo has more rear and front travel. Oh well, who care. I love the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    Remember when 130 mm was a LOT of travel? Now 130 mm is just the starting point of long travel bikes and considered "trail" and not AM.
    My old Stumpy 26er from 2008 was 120 mm front and back so I guess the Solo is pretty comparable. VPP suspension doesn't feel as plush even though the Solo has more rear and front travel. Oh well, who care. I love the bike.
    Funny...we both are coming from 120mm stumpy, and on the "hooligan 5010" (black law breaker/trademark-infringing Solo.) I'm only 1 ride in on mine, and still sorting a lot out, but this bike is FUN, and a massive improvement on the technical steeps. (Wider bar, slacker geo, dropper, and bigger wheels). I am loving the stealth black and green, too!

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    For those who were chiming in about the fork issue: I had my LBS look inside and it turned out my fork had a major problem. Major enough to the point that they just ordered me a new fork under warranty. I guess the air spring assembly was messed up. I don't know the specifics but I am glad I had him tear into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    For those who were chiming in about the fork issue: I had my LBS look inside and it turned out my fork had a major problem. Major enough to the point that they just ordered me a new fork under warranty. I guess the air spring assembly was messed up. I don't know the specifics but I am glad I had him tear into it.
    What exactly was your fork doing that you had them investigate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadTony View Post
    What exactly was your fork doing that you had them investigate?
    I initially wanted them to remove my spacer to bump the fork up to 140 mm (which I confirmed with Santa Cruz was okay), but I told him that the fork was not getting nearly as much travel I thought it should, so I asked the shop manager to investigate while he was in there. I will try to get more info when I pick up my bike this weekend. Getting a whole new fork, which I did not expect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    I initially wanted them to remove my spacer to bump the fork up to 140 mm (which I confirmed with Santa Cruz was okay), but I told him that the fork was not getting nearly as much travel I thought it should, so I asked the shop manager to investigate while he was in there. I will try to get more info when I pick up my bike this weekend. Getting a whole new fork, which I did not expect.
    Thanks, Gnar. I just re-measured mine, it's right at 125mm, rather than the stated 130. No big deal in the short term, I'll probably remove the spacer later, though. Other than the imperceptible difference in travel, it felt good enough for a first run for me. I'm not as hard over on immediately upgrading the fork anymore. If I like 140, but want more stiffness, I'll look at upgrades then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadTony View Post
    Thanks, Gnar. I just re-measured mine, it's right at 125mm, rather than the stated 130. No big deal in the short term, I'll probably remove the spacer later, though. Other than the imperceptible difference in travel, it felt good enough for a first run for me. I'm not as hard over on immediately upgrading the fork anymore. If I like 140, but want more stiffness, I'll look at upgrades then.
    I remember measuring the stanchion of my fork when I got it and it measured about 140 mm or so. I think Fox has a little stanchion exposed that is not actually used. 125 mm sounds low for a 130 mm travel bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GnarBrahWyo View Post
    I remember measuring the stanchion of my fork when I got it and it measured about 140 mm or so. I think Fox has a little stanchion exposed that is not actually used. 125 mm sounds low for a 130 mm travel bike.
    I have more than 125mm of stanchion exposed. It's 125mm from the seal to the mid-point of the Kashima logo where it bottoms out. I didn't measure the remaining exposed stanchion, but it seemed to be 10-15 mm from memory.

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    Loving the Pike, is it 34mm? Are there are any issues warranty/otherwise with running a 34 on the 5010. I just need that extra stiffness and would prefer the 5010 over the bronson right now.
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    Hi Magpie, Yes the Pike is the fork of the moment. There seems to be a few having issues with the Fox. For me, I always thought the Fox 34 came out too heavy to start with and I stayed away from it and then I rode a few demo bikes with them on, and I stayed right away from them.

    The Pike is a 35mm stanction, plenty stiff, lighter than a Fox and the fork action is top class as many have reported. You get all the travel and the quality of the travel on small and big hits is great as well as being controlled during pedalling.

    For me the Pike makes the bike.

    As for Warranty, I can't tell you whether it is or not. My Pike is set at 140mm and I think SC has stated the Solo is good for 120mm to 140mm forks. Personally it doesn't really matter to me, these frames are rediculously tough.

    If you want a quality fork that offers no real weight disadvantage but does the magic with directional stiffness, this one would be on your shopping short list. The new Marz looks good but weighs about the same as a Fox 34, but I'd expect it would be pretty classy in action. Good luck

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    Awesome reply. I would think SC should honor the 140 mm but that's just a side note in a worst case scenario. The pike just makes so much sense and is killing reviews. Seriously considering the 5010 now, especially if I can find a SOLO printed frame on sale somewhere haha. Thanks!

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    Haha yeah, I offered my bike back to the LBS when the name changed, told them it was rare and a sought after thing now and that's why it was at a premium price over and above what I bought it for, but they didn't buy it - the argument or my slightly used bike.

    The fork definitely gives it a more solid feel. It's planted and ready for business. Yet it is still more playful than a Bronson and, maybe it's how I have my rear shock, but mine really flys on bunny hops and jumps. It loves to take air, I'm having so much fun popping off stuff. Way more poppy than the Bronsons I rode and more than my old Trc.

    Re the side note. You may remember when SC first brought out the 100mm travel Blur XC carbon. People were wondering if it was okay to run a 120mm fork on a straight steerer set up. I know that the boys at SC were running these with 160mm Lyrics and loving it - but what the factory staff do is different to what they would warranty for you... Just saying, there's plenty of leeway for the idiot factor and warranty parameters are very safe conservative parameters.

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    Mine just showed up on Monday night. Took it for the first ride last night and as soon as I got to the trail it started pouring rain. Can't wait to test it out in dry conditions! Also my frame is still a SOLO.

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    Cool, you got a collectors item to. Nice bike

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    I guess I am only getting a new air spring assembly after all. Just wanted to clarify that. I will look into the details of it when I pick up the bike, hopefully this weekend.
    btw, my replacement frame still says "Solo". I got lucky there.

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