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    WANTED: Horsethiefs!!! photo and discussion thread.....

    I just purchased a 2014 close out
    Got it for a real good price
    I love it so far
    It does everything well

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    Where are they having closeouts on the Horsethief? Thanks
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    Re: WANTED: Horsethiefs!!! photo and discussion thread.....

    My LBS had one

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    New 2014 HT 1, love the bike. Great geometry, cush descending however can't tell the difference with the fox C and T and D on the rear. Way too soft during climbing, set up per sag rec about 30% in the rear, then stiffened it up and still too soft during climbing. Anyone else?

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    [QUOTE=silasandeli;11534689]New 2014 HT 1, love the bike. Great geometry, cush descending however can't tell the difference with the fox C and T and D on the rear. Way too soft during climbing, set up per sag rec about 30% in the rear, then stiffened it up and still too soft during climbing. Anyone else?[/QUOTE

    Im coming from a cross country bike so I knew I had to get used to it but it climbs well for as slack as it is. I keep mine in trail mode the whole time and it climbs try scooting up on the seat for steep climbs and maybe switch to climb mode to get more of a locked out feel. May have to set sag higher as you mentioned. It is definitely an awesome bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch1171 View Post
    Im coming from a cross country bike so I knew I had to get used to it but it climbs well for as slack as it is. I keep mine in trail mode the whole time and it climbs try scooting up on the seat for steep climbs and maybe switch to climb mode to get more of a locked out feel. May have to set sag higher as you mentioned. It is definitely an awesome bike.
    Coming from a hard tail, I keep both in full descend, all the time, but I also ride in the NE where rocks and roots thrive. I never feel like I'm being robbed of any power or any bobbing unless I'm standing and pedaling up a super steep section and I'm about to stall. For me, I just set it and appreciate it as its actively working 95% of the time...


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    My 2014 Horsethief
    Medium frame, Pike, Reverb, Crest/Hope Wheels, Sram gearing, RF cranks, Ergon grips and saddle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter E View Post
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    Peter- is that Pike a 140? Looking hard a Horsethief 1 Carbon (I love purple) but a 140mm Pike would void the warranty based on its axle to crown.

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    Sorry, read through the forum (imagine that!) looks like everyone who's doing a Pike on these guys is running it at 120mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter E View Post
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    Looks sweet Peter! Love the PIKE on there!

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    Yes it's a Pike set at 120. Looks taller in this photo

    Personally I think it's a little strange that Salsa did not test this frame with a 140mm +34mm stanchion fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter E View Post
    Yes it's a Pike set at 120. Looks taller in this photo

    Personally I think it's a little strange that Salsa did not test this frame with a 140mm +34mm stanchion fork.
    I could not agree more.

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    Built this up just in time for sub zero temps and snow...hoping for nicer weather in the near future.

    happy trails...

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    Just picked up from universal cycles. 13 horse thief. Have to say. Most fun bike I have ever ridden. Just sold an ibis ripely and this bike is a lot more fun. Couldn't beat the price. $659 for frame and fox ctdk. Put my pike and is lev dropper on it. Love this bike!


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    Question about sizing. I am 6' 2.5" with a 36 cycling inseam. Coming off an xl on-one inbred. I am wondering if those taller folks who ride a 2014 HT think I can get away with a size L horsethief ?
    LBS has a very good deal on a size L 2014 but no XL to compare. They put a longer stem on it and it seems to feel decent. Definately smaller feel than the inbred but I have riser bars on the inbred that puts the bars level with the seat. Bars are lower in the HT. I am a large guy at 240lbs . On paper it seems to fit but just wondering if anyone around my height tried both and chose the L with positive results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEIGUY View Post
    Question about sizing. I am 6' 2.5" with a 36 cycling inseam. Coming off an xl on-one inbred. I am wondering if those taller folks who ride a 2014 HT think I can get away with a size L horsethief ?
    LBS has a very good deal on a size L 2014 but no XL to compare. They put a longer stem on it and it seems to feel decent. Definately smaller feel than the inbred but I have riser bars on the inbred that puts the bars level with the seat. Bars are lower in the HT. I am a large guy at 240lbs . On paper it seems to fit but just wondering if anyone around my height tried both and chose the L with positive results.
    I'm 6'3 and heavier than you, think my inseam is less than yours. I've got about 100 miles on my new 2014 XL HT 1 and so far it feels right to me. They had a large but I never even tried throwing a leg over it so I can't comment. I had a XL Spearfish for 3 years and figured XL was gonna be right for me.

    I also have an XL On One Scandal so I gotta think we run about the same.

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    Thanks cobi, that is what I thought, appreciate the response. I passed on the size L as I just thought it was a little to small. Too bad it was a super deal. $2200 Canadian for a HT2 new. Hard to find a used one at that price. If anyone wants an L , Mikes bike shop in moncton , NB has a great deal on their remaining 2014 HT's and Spearfish

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    New HT2 Owner!

    I also got mine on closeout from Universal Cycles($1799)

    It's sweet and rides great!! I have already changed out some of the components with the money I saved.

    Thomson seatpost, stem and bars
    Blue Salsa QR seat post clamp
    SRAM XX 2x10 twist shifters
    Spur Cycles Grip Rings
    Kustom Kaps top cap
    Ergon Saddle

    Haven't decided on the next step, pretty good right here.

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    Hello guys!
    Has anyone tried to ride HF with a B+ wheel? Will it fit?

    First of all I get interested in split pivot frames, as I have now old (2012) one.
    It doesnt fit, too small chainstay clearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxus View Post
    Hello guys!
    Has anyone tried to ride HF with a B+ wheel? Will it fit?

    First of all I get interested in split pivot frames, as I have now old (2012) one.
    It doesnt fit, too small chainstay clearance.
    not that I know of yet...CS/SS clearances are tight!
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    Anyone running a 150mm dropper on their Horsethief? I have a medium HTc1 and curious if another 30mm in post length is an issue as I know the Tompson post is 400mm.

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    Hope this post helps a few others, I was able to find some information elsewhere.

    The seat post tube depth on my HTc1 size medium is 235mm (+/- 5mm) from the top of the tube to the bend.

    I measured my Thomson Elite seat post (31.6mm x 367mm) and found I have the Thomson post inserted into the seat post tube 137mm leaving 230mm from the top of the seat post tube to the seat clamp.

    Using the chart below I found to get a 230mm clamp height on the 150m Reverb (same as the Thomson post installed) I need to insert the Reverb post 200mm into the tube leaving 10mm above the top of the seat post tube to get my desired seat height, not much leeway. The 150mm dropper should work and result in getting the seat about 25mm lower than the 125mm dropper when it is down all the way.


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    I picked up my first MTB after 11+ years. 2014 Horsethief 2. Lime green. Haven't gotten to really ride it yet but soon...

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    This was a teaser from my LBS. I'm picking her up on Saturday and can't wait!
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    I have a carbon Horsethief 1. You will NOT be disappointed.

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    Today was the first ride on her! It's such a fantastic bike! I was happily amazed that it's only 26 lbs. with a totally stock build and tubeless.
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    Finally got the racks!

    Racks are annoying to install on this car. Seems pretty stable? This is my first bike in over 10 years. Let's see if I can't kill myself.
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    Picked up a 2013 yesterday!

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    I'm looking into this frame as my next full susser and have a couple questions for you owners.

    1. Anybody have a frame weight on the aluminum or carbon frame? Don't know why they don't post info on this type of thing. I saw a review that speculated 6.5lbs for the aluminum version but that seems awfully optimistic to me.

    2. Sizing, my current hardtail has a 450mm reach which is spot on perfect for me. I'm only 5'11" but I'd want a size large for the reach measurement. I'd rather not have the long seat tube but the standover is still adequate. What sizes are people my height running?

    Thanks for the help!

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    Salsa graciously got back to me so I thought I'd share.

    Horsethief AL in size L: 3005g

    Horsethief Carbon in size L: 2765g

    He also noted that the stiffness and acceleration between the carbon and the aluminum is a night and day difference.

    I'm pretty much between this and the upcoming canfield riot for my next bike. Just waiting to see how canfield's geometry pans out.

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    im 5'10" on a good day and just got a medium Carbon 1. It fits me perfectly, but im glad it isn't any smaller. A large probably would be right for you.
    I'm sure the Canfield will be a fun bike but this Horsethief is pretty damn awesome. I've been riding it like it's stolen! :-)
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    I'm curious about how much abuse the HT can take. Is anyone using it more as a light all mountain rig (drops, jumps, etc.)? Also what is the BB height on the HT? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Not used to the whole BB drop thing. Last, is anyone running a 130 pike?

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    In terms of abuse, I know a guy that rides hard and drops off nearly any opportunity presented and spent a whole season on a HF and what broke was a Derby fatty rim. The frameset held up just fine.
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    Thinking of a 2015 carbon build... Anybody want to add anything? Not much info out there yet.....
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    any chance of getting a b+ wheel in the rear triangle? can anyone take some measurements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drinkwat View Post
    I'm curious about how much abuse the HT can take. Is anyone using it more as a light all mountain rig (drops, jumps, etc.)? Also what is the BB height on the HT? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Not used to the whole BB drop thing. Last, is anyone running a 130 pike?
    I've got a 130mm pike on my 2014 model HT, it was a HUGE. upgrade from the stock fox fork. I've been riding mine pretty hard and it hasn't let me down at all. My riding partner has a 27.5 trek slash with 160mm travel front and rear and I can hang with him on the downhills and tech stuff with ease, then I blow him away on the climbs. I haven't taken it off any drops higher than around 3ft, but it has been flawless on everything I've thrown at it. I've found that the harder you push this bike, the better it performs.
    As far as the bb height, I'm not sure, but I live in Arizona and deal with A LOT of rock gardens, boulders, deep washes , tight rocky single track and all sorts of chunky stuff and haven't hit anything with the bb shell, but I still get an "in the bike feel" it is a very stable bike that responds very well to body movement. In my opinion it's a very any trail worthy bike, it simply does everything well

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    Nice reply leearjr... Keep that stuff coming...Going to order one soon. Live in Colorado and that bike sounds perfect....
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    Still loving my XL 2014 HT1. I'm 6'3.5" and it is just right but it is a big bike for sure. It has really improved both my steep downhill riding and technical uphill riding coming off a Giant Anthem X 29. The Giant was a nice XC/endurance race bike but the HT is a real trail bike.

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    Thanks for the replies! Everything you all have mentioned confirms my impressions of the bike. I have no doubt that it is robust. Still can't seem to find any info on the bb height. I would really like to know and it seems odd that Salsa doesn't publish it.

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    The BB drop is 1.4". That is center of the axle to center of the BB. The actual BB height would depend upon the tires and BB diameter.

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    Twowheelchri thanks for the reply. I saw on the website where they listed the drop. I think that it's odd that they don't list BB height on the stock builds. Most other bike manufactures list BB height and it would make it easier to compare bikes if Salsa followed suit. Not a big deal, I'm just curious.

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    Custom built Small 2014 Horsethief. Bought the frame and fork from Pro Bike Supply in Newport Beach CA (www.probikesuply.com). Awesome customer service btw!! Frame came in at 2790 grams, super light weight for a aluminum frame! Final weight w/o pedals is 26.65 lbs! I may swap out the crank for a raceface carbon crank effectively dropping the weight in the 25lb range.
    This is my second HT, i originally had a 2012 HT. The first one was a blast to ride, the only thing I find different between the two is that, on the new 14 HT, I no longer have to switch the rear lockout during climbs. Front end feels WAY lighter when you want the lift the front to clear large roots. The 14 HT also handles super tight twisties with ease! The HT does not feel like a normal 29er, but more like a 26er, insane!
    Majority of the trails I ride are rock gardens....fast rock gardens! Some days I wished I had 200mm of travel due to the super rough terrain, but the HT is still very much in control and predictable. On the climbs, I keep the suspension in full open, actually works better than closed. First i had it in the closed position and found myself loosing traction over loose and muddy rocks. I initially blamed the tires for bad traction in the rocky and muddy trail, but after switching the rear shock to full open, I gained a noticeable amount of traction...wow! Enjoy the photos below!








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    Noah-

    Is that a Stage fork? At 130, does it fit into the A-C specs for the frame?

    Might be my next upgrade . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ru-tang View Post

    Is that a Stage fork? At 130, does it fit into the A-C specs for the frame?
    Yes, and no. It is a Stage, but at 130 the fork is 538mm in length. So it's over the 532mm length they say is the maximum, but so is the fork they spec on the carbon Horsethief 1 - a Revelation 130mm, which is also 538mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OperatorBo View Post
    Just picked up from universal cycles. 13 horse thief. Have to say. Most fun bike I have ever ridden. Just sold an ibis ripely and this bike is a lot more fun. Couldn't beat the price. $659 for frame and fox ctdk. Put my pike and is lev dropper on it. Love this bike!


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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    any chance of getting a b+ wheel in the rear triangle? can anyone take some measurements?
    B+ prototype at SOC. Utilises carbon front triangle similar to HT. Not sure when it would be available to the masses though.

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    That is a stellar looking bike! Reminds me of my '12 with the color of frame and white fork, but that above bike looks way meaner. I really like my '12 HT, but it's a big bike for me (5'11" size large), and I am looking for a medium frame. Anyway, I think a 26+ version of a horsethief would be the one (dirtythief, horsewizard).
    Huh? What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OperatorBo View Post
    Just picked up from universal cycles. 13 horse thief. Have to say. Most fun bike I have ever ridden. Just sold an ibis ripely and this bike is a lot more fun. Couldn't beat the price. $659 for frame and fox ctdk. Put my pike and is lev dropper on it. Love this bike!


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    Ohh that's awesome another Horsethief owner in the Ogden Area! Here is my 2013 build also. Hopefully we'll see each other on the BST one day.
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