Maybe with the 2012 Campy parts, you can mix & match a little easier. I purchased 2012 Centaur kit & it works flawlessly w/ a 2011 Ultegra 10-speed cassette. Rode 20 miles of hilly terrain in the rain yesterday (mud, gravel, asphalt) & it shifted perfectly. Go figure. :skep:
Originally Posted by pulser
its a 58
Originally Posted by cda 455
I have a few this one is right after I built it
i seriously thought about going the campy route. but, after thinking more about what i want to do on this bike, i chose to go full battle mode. here's what came this weekend. it allready looks fun. never built a bike from the ground up like this. getting the frame faced and chased this week and having the headset installed. can't warrant buying those tools. another box of goodies is on order and then it's off to the races with the motel room build. all i've decided on for wheels so far is king or 240s hubs. haven't figured out the rim choice yet. any thoughts?
x0 cranks 42/28
ritchey 4 axis
I went tubeless for the 1st time with WTB's new TCS wheels, and Vulpine SL TCS tires; 1.9, the max on a Vaya.
Stan's ZTR Crest or maybe a stock wheelset - American Classic MTB 29er Tubeless Wheels??? The AM 29er rims look pretty slick, not sure how they perform.
Originally Posted by yourideit
First time poster, long time rider. I recently built up my Salsa Vaya, here is the layout.
Frame: 60 cm Orange Vaya
Headset: Cane Creek 40 series
Bottom Bracket: Phil Wood stainless 111 mm JIS
Cranks: Sugino RD2
Chainring: Sugino Standard 38T
Sprocket: Surly Stainless 20T
Chain: SRAM PC-870
Brakes: Avid BB7 Road
Front: 700c 36H Velocity Chukker non-machined sidewalls, DT double butted spokes, Shimano Alfine DS501 dynamo hub, Avid G2 Rotor 160 mm
Rear: 700c 36H Velocity Chukker non-machined sidewalls, DT double butted spokes, Nuvinci N360 CVT, Avid G2 Rotor 160 mm
Tires: 700x32c Schwalbe Marathon Plus
Stem: Allsop Softride Stem
Handlebars: Nitto Randonneur D135 45 cm width
Seatpost: Cane Creek Thudbuster ST #7 elastomer
Saddle: ISM Adamo Tyhpoon
Pedals: Avenir pedals toe clips & straps
Fenders: Bontrager NCS
Cables: Jagwire Ripcord
Rear Rack: Sunlite mousetrap rack
Lights: B&M senso lights, Cyo N plus for front
Panniers: Ortlieb Back Roller classics
Chain Tensioner: Surly Singleator
Airzound horn to keep the drivers awake
I've got a few parts coming UPS to give her a spruce up. SKS P50 Fenders, 700 x 38 Vittoria Randonneur Hypers, Surly 42T SS chainring and 22T cog, and a SRAM PC-890 chain since my 870 is stretching out already... I'm a destroyer of chains. This will be the 3rd chain this year.
Nice set up!
Originally Posted by crazylemurboy
What made you go with Phil Wood BB?
I'm thinking about going Phil Wood on hubs and BB.
Thanks for the kudos! I am planning on upgrading a few things as time passes, but gotta stay within the monthly bike upgrade budget (which is becoming increasingly more generous).
I picked the Phil Wood because at the time I purchased it I was riding a 1979 Motobecane Grand Jubilee, which I blew the bottom bracket out on. It was Swiss threaded, and my options were new bike, or Phil Wood bracket. I crashed my Motobecane a few months back (I'm pretty rough on equipment... lol) and I managed to salvage a few parts, namely the pedals/cranks/bracket/rack. The bracket was also mentioned as being 'bombproof' and my Clydesdale body appreciates that. It is a great bracket. It doesn't cost significantly more a high quality Shimano or Campy bracket, fits JIS cranks, and is butter smooth. The other advantage is the mounting rings, which can be replaced to fit any bike. I would recommend it to anyone looking for a long term investment.
Here is a photo with the new 1.9 Kenda Karma's
Have you noticed any frame rub with those? The outside knobs would buzz pretty bad when I tried them. Nothing a grinder didn't fix :D
Originally Posted by Hvnfun
New Salsa Vaya
Here's my Salsa Vaya 2012 build. Back story: I actually bought a used LaCruz this summer and found it too small after buying a Fargo, so I changed the frames on it. (I have the LaCruz up for sale in classifieds.)
The Vaya is mellower riding than the LaCruz which I miss, but the Vaya fits me like a glove. I am using it or the Fargo for commuting to work in Denver-- 22 miles roundtrip. Both bikes are BLAST to ride.
The build is Salsa Vaya frame-57cm
Shimano 105 group
BB7 disc brakes
Brooks saddle and a Carradice saddle bag
Almost matching Salsa stem (I know it's been recalled and Salsa has been contacted, I am a risk-taker:thumbsup:)
The rear tires fit fine, I had problems with the front and even after grinding down they still rubbed. So I went with a Salsa CroMoto 26" 425mm fork, tire fit fine and I bet I could get a 2.35 in there now.
Originally Posted by xhx
If you've not found a solution yet look at Hope hubs. Their new Pro2EVO uses the same free hub as their Pro3 road hubs, which... have a Campagnolo free hub option!
Originally Posted by pulser
I have the pro3 and the switch from Shimano to Campagnolo only requires you to swap drive side spacer, not both like DT, so odds are the EVO should work.
DT 240s with athena 11 on my bike, no issues at all.
not sure if my hub measures 137mm or not but i can tell you that 5000km of dirt, tarmac and light xc has not made my vaya blink!
:eek: I could never imagine taking a grinder to my frame... but I treat my bike like a baby.
I'm quite certain he took the grinder to the tires' side knobs, not the frame.
Originally Posted by crazylemurboy
Happy Holidays Vaya Owners Around The Globe
Hi all, this is my first post here! After being inspired by all your rides, I have finally got a dream bike - and in time for Christmas too!
Specs of Build:
54cm Vaya frame and forks - 700c wheels.
Shimano XT Disc Hubs, 36 hole, Centre Lock & Shimano 160mm rotors.
Exal LX 17 Alloy double wall rims, 36 hole with rim braking surface - hand built
Schwalbe inner tubes and Marathon Plus tyres 700 x 32c - reflective walls
Shimano Tiagra triple STI 9 speed.
Shimano Tiagra triple front derailleur.
Shimano LX Long cage rear deraileur.
SRAM 9 speed 32-11 Cassette.
Shimano 9 speed chain & quick link.
Shimano triple chainset 50, 39, 30 & bottom bracket - 170mm cranks.
Shimano Cable Disc Brakes.
Salsa Bell Lap Moto Ace - 46cm cross bars.
Bike Ribbon Eleganza Bar Tape
Cane Creek CrossTop in-line levers
110mm Easton over-sized stem, Nitto shims to 26mm
Cane Creek S3 headset
27.2mm Seatpost & Salsa liplock binder.
San Marco Rolls Saddle
SKS Chromoplastic Mudguards
Madison Summit Pannier Rack Silver
Lots of 3M protection frame tape
My (58cm) Vaya had a nice Christmas. It's now sporting a large Revelate Designs Tangle bag.
First gravel ride was yesterday. The bag is fantastic. Both sides are easily opened and closed while riding. And it holds much more than I thought. Fit and finish are top notch as well. Extremely pleased with it so far.
Just finished my first mini tour - Tempe AZ to Tucson, with an overnight stop off at Picacho Peak...here's the rig at the destination spot...I am sure it's familiar to all from the Old Pueblo....:thumbsup:
Fender season is here:
Can anyone comment in Vaya sizing? I'm currently selling my two older bikes to get one "do all" bike that is a better fit for my aging back (ie I want more upright). My 19" YBBeat was purchased about 15 years ago when I could handle a more aggressive position. Sadly it hasn't been ridden much at all. I also got a Casseroll a few years ago (the ginger beer version with straight fork) in a 61cm and that feels just a tad long for me. I'm 6'1" (used to be 6'2" - that's what happens when you hit 50), and have fairly long legs so standover isn't an issue. For a Vaya I'm thinking either 58 or 60. I like the idea of the 58.5cm TT on the 58 but worry that I won't be able to get the bars as high as I'd like - though looks like they tend to ship with a long steerer.
ybtodd - I am 6'4" and young. I barely fit on my 60cm. Standover height is not an issue with these frames - seems like they size them according to TT length. I would advise you going for the 58 cm for less reach. The steerer tube is quite long from the factory, and the headtube is also very long. I have only 5 mm of spacers under my stem and the handlebars are about even with the seat. Stock, it was way above the seat.
thanks, that's what I was figuring. I just tore down my YBBeat and looked at the the Casseroll as well. The top tube is just too long the the 61cm Casseroll so I think that the 58.5cm top tube on the Vaya would be about right and I can dial in the bar height with spacers and stem.