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    Spearfish 1x setups ?

    Anybody put a 1x setup on a spearfish? What did you use and how did it work?

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    I run a 1x9 using an xt crank (32t), xtr cassette (11-34), and a sram attack grip shift. I have a truvativ bash guard as well as a n-gear jump stop chain guide. I'd occasionally drop my chain but i finally found the sweet spot for the chain guide, so far so good. I'll eventually upgrade to a ss specific ring with a higher tooth profile as well as an mrp guide to help boost my confidence when riding rockier terrain.

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    I'm heading overseas for the next three months but upon my return, a Spearfish with XX1 is going to be my project... I imagine it will be INSANE

    Someone else do it in the meantime so I can live vicariously...

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    Im making the switch to a 1X10 and ordered these parts:

    HomeBrewed Spider-less Chain ring

    Sram X9 Type 2 RD

    And an MRP chain Guide

    Hope it works!

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    Ran mine with a 32-bash in front, with another bash on the inside. Worked great, but too hard to climb for me here in CT. Now using a 28 tooth in front with the same 11-34 and its perfect. I use the entire cassette now on my rides. I took a link or 2 out and it never comes off the ring either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAGASAN View Post
    Im making the switch to a 1X10 and ordered these parts:

    HomeBrewed Spider-less Chain ring

    Sram X9 Type 2 RD

    And an MRP chain Guide

    Hope it works!
    What crank will you use with the spider-less ring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macbeth View Post
    I'm heading overseas for the next three months but upon my return, a Spearfish with XX1 is going to be my project... I imagine it will be INSANE

    Someone else do it in the meantime so I can live vicariously...
    Nah...I'll live vicariously through your Japan trip...and through your XX1.

    I thought I was the only Spearfish XX1 nutjob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hansel12 View Post
    What crank will you use with the spider-less ring?
    I will be using the X9 that came on the bike.

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    My Spearfish is 2x10, but if I was going to go 1x, I would probably use a MRP bling ring and either a MRP 1x or Paul's chain keeper. (I am running XO cranks, so the direct mount bling ring is appealing.)

    I am running a similar setup on my hard tail and it seems to work great.

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    Here's my 1X10 set-up. First ride on it in the morning.


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    Here's mine! I'm using a Sram S1000 crank? with a Race Face 32t front ring, a Sram 11-36 PG1070 10 speed cassette, and a X9 short cage. Plenty of gear for the trails in and around Houston/Austin. I never rode the bike in 2x form so I can's comment on a performance change. I can however say that I saved a good bit of weight and cut back on the chance of a drivetrain mechanical.

    Oops... Forgot to mention my chain watcher. Never lost a chain with my old MRP guide, but I did lose the chain off of the bottom while ratcheting in a tech section.


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    Here's mine:

    1x10
    Zee shifter
    XT Shadow mech
    XT 11-36 cassette
    FSA V-Drive crank with KCNC bolts & FSA single specific ring (34T)
    Superstar XCR chain device
    KMC X10 SL chain

    Only done about 10 miles on it but so far so good!
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    Did you use the mrp bling ring on a bb30 crankset for your 1x system
    Quote Originally Posted by HAGASAN View Post
    Here's my 1X10 set-up. First ride on it in the morning.


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    I'm using an MRP bling ring on a BB30 crank on my Spearfish. Works perfectly, thus far.

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    Awesome, mrp told me it wouldnt work for some reason, glad to hear otherwise. What chain guide are you running?
    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    I'm using an MRP bling ring on a BB30 crank on my Spearfish. Works perfectly, thus far.

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    Also I love your blog i read it every morning.
    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    I'm using an MRP bling ring on a BB30 crank on my Spearfish. Works perfectly, thus far.

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    Currently, I'm running a SRAM Type 2 rear derailleur, and no chainguide. I'm contemplating the need...wtih the winter, I haven't run any really harsh terrain yet.

    If I had to run a chainguard, I think it would be possible to bastardize a Paul seatpost-mounted one.

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    Ok the mrp guy told me to use a d-mount 1x guide, Im not sure how a direct mount would attach to a spearfish frame
    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    Currently, I'm running a SRAM Type 2 rear derailleur, and no chainguide. I'm contemplating the need...wtih the winter, I haven't run any really harsh terrain yet.

    If I had to run a chainguard, I think it would be possible to bastardize a Paul seatpost-mounted one.

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    I think MRP makes a direct-mount clamp version that may work on a Spearfish...not positive, though.

    Who'da thunk that ISCG tabs would be nice on a light, XC bike?

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    Spearfish 1x setups ?-mrp-bling-ring.jpgSpearfish 1x setups ?-mrp-chain-guide.jpg
    Quote Originally Posted by lawfarm View Post
    I think MRP makes a direct-mount clamp version that may work on a Spearfish...not positive, though.

    Who'da thunk that ISCG tabs would be nice on a light, XC bike?
    I've only got about 40 miles on this set up, but so far it's been great! I tried the Pauls Keeper and got a dud (machined incorrectly), so I went with what I have experience with, why change what works?

    Jeff

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    I had my Spearfish 1 set up 1 x 9 (36 front/11-34 rear) with great success. I had a light weight bash guard on the outside of the of the chainring and homemade chainguide (a road triple front der. with the outer cage cut off, very clean and light) on the inside. Had to go 2 x 10 for several races with longer, steeper climbs. XX 1 is in my future as soon as I can mount an XX 1 front chainring onto a Rotor or XTR crankset.

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    I've only got about 40 miles on this set up, but so far it's been great! I tried the Pauls Keeper and got a dud (machined incorrectly), so I went with what I have experience with, why change what works?

    Jeff[/QUOTE] Is that just a 1x clamp mount guide?

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    @ tkjohnson21,

    It is, with a X9, BB30 crank set.

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    Thats the same setup I plan to use did you have any trouble setting it up?
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    @ tkjohnson21,

    It is, with a X9, BB30 crank set.

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    Not really, I need to remove some of the non drive BB spacers used to achieve proper chain line and use the threaded, lockable adjustment instead.

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    I know this thread is a bit old, but I'm hoping some one who has already gone to the trouble of converting to a SF to a 1x set up can help me out with my chain guide selection. What guides has any one tried, and what works. The last time I set a bike up with a 1x setup it took several attempts to find a guide that would fit right, eventually I ended up with a BB mount MRP 1x (a great solution that won't work on the Fish). Has any one tried a Paul's keeper (other than the one that wasn't machined properly) with any success? I'm really just trying to avoid the $100 high mount solutions, but if I have to I will. Thanks for the help guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob12676 View Post
    I know this thread is a bit old, but I'm hoping some one who has already gone to the trouble of converting to a SF to a 1x set up can help me out with my chain guide selection. What guides has any one tried, and what works. The last time I set a bike up with a 1x setup it took several attempts to find a guide that would fit right, eventually I ended up with a BB mount MRP 1x (a great solution that won't work on the Fish). Has any one tried a Paul's keeper (other than the one that wasn't machined properly) with any success? I'm really just trying to avoid the $100 high mount solutions, but if I have to I will. Thanks for the help guys.
    I used an MRP seatstay mounted keeper, and milled a poly spacer to move the keeper part over a bit. It worked perfectly.

    That said, I'm now running a Type 2 Rear Derailleur, and took the keeper off. I have had 0 problems with chain retention. If it was me, I'd skip the retention device and do a rear derailleur with the clutch mechanism (SRAM Type 2, or Shimano _______). I'm running a regular MRP bling ring, so the derailleur is my only retention device. It works awesome.

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    Lawfarm, thanks for the response. The X9 type 2 is definitely an option, especially if the cost of the chain guide is the same as the new rear D. Just a quick question, as I know very little about the new clutch derailleurs, will my OE shifter work with the new design? If you have a moment, and it's simple enough to explain, can you explain how the clutch mechanism works. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob12676 View Post
    Lawfarm, thanks for the response. The X9 type 2 is definitely an option, especially if the cost of the chain guide is the same as the new rear D. Just a quick question, as I know very little about the new clutch derailleurs, will my OE shifter work with the new design? If you have a moment, and it's simple enough to explain, can you explain how the clutch mechanism works. Thanks again.
    1. Yes, cost is pretty comparable, and the X9 Type 2 should work well for you.

    2. The cable pull/actuation ratio is the same as the previous generation of X9, so it should work with your OEM shifters.

    3. Essentially, it employes a spring-driven clutch to maintain rearward tension on the derailleur, which helps eliminate chain slap. By maintaining tension on the chain, it also helps ensure that the chain stays on the chainring, helping to eliminate dropped chains. As an added 'neat' feature, the SRAM version has a little button you can use to lock the derailleur forward, eliminating chain tension, so you can drop or reinstall the wheel easily.

    I did find, once I went 2x10, that I wanted gripshift so I could drop the whole cassette faster (for example, when transitioning from a downhill to an uphill). Your mileage may vary.

    This was my original conversion, with a stock OEM shifter and no chain-retention device. Because I'm anal-retentive, I then added a chain retention device. It was unnecessary, and has since been removed.

    Good luck!

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    Lawfarm, thanks again for the info. One last question for you, are you running a short or medium cage rear derailleur? If I understand things correctly, I can run the short cage if I intend to run the bike as a 1x, but if I ever want to go back to a 2x set up I would need to run the mid-cage (or put the OE derailleur back on). The advantage of the short cage being - less chain= less chain motion (?). Again, any help is greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob12676 View Post
    Lawfarm, thanks again for the info. One last question for you, are you running a short or medium cage rear derailleur? If I understand things correctly, I can run the short cage if I intend to run the bike as a 1x, but if I ever want to go back to a 2x set up I would need to run the mid-cage (or put the OE derailleur back on). The advantage of the short cage being - less chain= less chain motion (?). Again, any help is greatly appreciated.
    I'm not sure if the short cage will work--haven't tried it, and haven't done the calculations. I run a medium cage, which as you note works with 1x or 2x setups.

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    I can say the Pauls Keeper is poorly designed, mine came in machined incorrectly and marred up the frame. The pinch bolt cut into the paint and would ride up and down the seat tube when tightened or loosened.

    My MRP 1x seat tube mount is excellent, I have it set up with BB30 X9 cranks and a 32t Bling Ring. I also run a 36t cassette and a short cage X9 (non type 2). It's been flawless for many many miles!

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    Spearfish 1x setups ?-spearfish-office.jpgSpearfish 1x setups ?-mrp-chain-guide.jpgSpearfish 1x setups ?-mrp-bling-ring.jpg

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    Spearfish 1x setups ?-mrp-bling-ring.jpgSpearfish 1x setups ?-mrp-chain-guide.jpg

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    Have you looked into the Wolf Chain rings? I just ordered mine yesterday and other locals have had great success with them. No chain guide needed. Currently I am running an e-13 38t with the origin 8 guide. It hasn't given me any problems, but would love to lose the extra little weight which is why I went with the wolf ring.

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    I have been running Wolf Tooth Component chainring on my Spearfish 1 w/XX1 for 3+ months. I have it on an XTR 985 Race crankset and it has performed perfectly. 4 weeks of riding throughout Colorado (including the Crested Butte Enduro) and Moab with not one dropped chain.

    No doubt the other "wide/narrow" chainrings work too, but the fact that they have gone through the effort to fit cranksets other then 104/4 bolt pattern makes Wolf Tooth Components stand out from the crowd.

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    Thanks to everyone for the help and info. I bought a new HBC 32 tooth spiderless chainring off e-bay (what a lucky find) and a short cage X9 type 2 rear derailure. I ordered an MRP 1x guide too, just in case (also a new/used part off e-bay) but it has yet to show up. Put the ring and rear D on yesterday afternoon and took the bike out for a test ride. Everything works great, I hit some pretty rough high speed down hill sections and the chain stayed silent and in place - love it! I can't see any need for the guide.

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