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    My first Salsa, 2014 Fish. I have 4 rides on it and so far very pleased. Show me your Spearfish-fish1.jpg

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    Here is the new setup


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    Quote Originally Posted by grantini View Post


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    What fork are you running on her? travel? offset? year of your frame?

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    Show me your Spearfish-14238240_1162506110474054_625790897177251975_n.jpg


    2015 spearfish Medium 18"
    arch ex wheels laced to xt hubs
    2.4" maxxis ardent front tire tubeless
    2.25" racing ralph rear tire tubeless
    ks lev titanium 125mm dropper
    pivot 740mm carbon handlebar
    thomson elite 80mm 10deg stem
    ergon ti rail/carbon shell saddle
    ergon lock on grips
    xt 11sp shifter/der/11-42 cassette
    xt front and rear brakes w/160mm icetech rotors
    stock sram s1000 cranks with 30t raceface ring
    stock fox ctd evolution fork and rear shock
    deity plastic v2 pedals
    bontrager racelite cage

    Comes out to around 27.8 lbs with pedals and water bottle cage. Would like to upgrade to a fox sc fork, xtr cranks, and xtr pedals and hopefully get into the 25ish lb range... maybe some carbon wheels if necessary. I dont want to lose the dropper, its about 500g and worth it. Wishing salsa would sell the 2017 spearfish as a carbon frameset..

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbadwrench View Post
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    2015 spearfish Medium 18"
    arch ex wheels laced to xt hubs
    2.4" maxxis ardent front tire tubeless
    2.25" racing ralph rear tire tubeless
    ks lev titanium 125mm dropper
    pivot 740mm carbon handlebar
    thomson elite 80mm 10deg stem
    ergon ti rail/carbon shell saddle
    ergon lock on grips
    xt 11sp shifter/der/11-42 cassette
    xt front and rear brakes w/160mm icetech rotors
    stock sram s1000 cranks with 30t raceface ring
    stock fox ctd evolution fork and rear shock
    deity plastic v2 pedals
    bontrager racelite cage

    Comes out to around 27.8 lbs with pedals and water bottle cage. Would like to upgrade to a fox sc fork, xtr cranks, and xtr pedals and hopefully get into the 25ish lb range... maybe some carbon wheels if necessary. I dont want to lose the dropper, its about 500g and worth it. Wishing salsa would sell the 2017 spearfish as a carbon frameset..
    They are now only carbon

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    yep. just upset they arent selling a frameset only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbadwrench View Post
    just upset they arent selling a frameset only.
    No frameset, but they're selling the frame for $2,499, right?

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    Yep. Just sucks its that ugly black and puke yellow. I should have been more clear and meant to say that I would like the black/blue carbon frame as a frame only option.

    Took off my dropper(500g), replaced with a thomson elite post(~200ish?g). Ordered some chunky grips(60g) to replace the "heavy" ergon lock ons(130g), and ordered a 2017 fox 32 sc fork (1360g) to replace the 2015 fox evolution (1850g)

    Trying real hard to get into that 24lb range. from the 28 I was just at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbadwrench View Post
    Yep. Just sucks its that ugly black and puke yellow. I should have been more clear and meant to say that I would like the black/blue carbon frame as a frame only option.

    Took off my dropper(500g), replaced with a thomson elite post(~200ish?g). Ordered some chunky grips(60g) to replace the "heavy" ergon lock ons(130g), and ordered a 2017 fox 32 sc fork (1360g) to replace the 2015 fox evolution (1850g)

    Trying real hard to get into that 24lb range. from the 28 I was just at.
    Are the newer frames so much heavier? My '13 was 24.3 with pedals set up 1x10 and a 120mm Reba RL. The Alloy frame/rear shock/axle/collar was about 5.6lbs.

    You probably have a bit of weight hiding in your wheelset/tires. Heavy cassette can do some damage too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrenalnjunky View Post
    Are the newer frames so much heavier? My '13 was 24.3 with pedals set up 1x10 and a 120mm Reba RL. The Alloy frame/rear shock/axle/collar was about 5.6lbs.

    You probably have a bit of weight hiding in your wheelset/tires. Heavy cassette can do some damage too.
    Nope, my 2014 (first of the newer) weighs 5.6 lbs as well.

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    I don't know how heavy you are, but arch ex's aren't light wheels. The new Shimano XT 11 spd cassette is a tank as well (I have the same). If you are light, bike bling is slinging stan's crest wheelsets for $420, <1600g, what I use on all 29ers to reduce rotating mass.

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    I just had xt cranks installed, and also ordered mk3 crests, dt 350 hubs, and dt comp 1.8/2.0 spokes and alloy nipples. should be a bit lighter than my arch ex/xt hubs.

    im running a nobby nic 2.25 front and a racing ralph 2.25 in the rear. so those are pretty decent weight/traction mixture i think.

    i am running an xt 11sp cassette. is the xtr cassette a good upgrade?

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    XT M8000 11-40 cassette - 398g
    XTR M9000 11-40 cassette - 323g

    I just found this. Don't think thatll be worth the $$. I try to stick to at least $1 per gram as a rule of thumb when shedding weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrbadwrench View Post
    XT M8000 11-40 cassette - 398g
    XTR M9000 11-40 cassette - 323g

    I just found this. Don't think thatll be worth the $$. I try to stick to at least $1 per gram as a rule of thumb when shedding weight.
    Good job finding those weights, for some reason Shimano doesn't publish that on their site. Sunrace also 400g, Sram xg 1180x1 is only 315g, but you would also have to buy an xd driver freehub.

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    I've had my Spearfish for five or so years but it's been gathering dust since I started down the 29+ path, so I thought why not try to make a 29+ Spearfish!

    I installed a Fox 27.5+ Boost fork on the front that would clear any 3.0 tire, on the back I needed a 2.6 tire as that's all the clearance there is. I temporarily settled on a 2.4 Ardent mounted on a 50mm carbon Nextie rim that measured exactly 2.6 when mounted on the big rim. I've got a 2.6 Nobby Nic on the way

    The bigger tire would not clear the stock brace so I took out the hacksaw and dremil and cut it out. I had an old Amp Reseach bike in the attic that has a bolt on brace and it fit perfecltly after rounding the old welds off a little. The brace is now a half inch higher

    It ended up being a fun bike and the first couple of rides last week I set some PR's on a trail I've ridden hundreds of times. A Spearfish is meant to be raced though, so I raced a 12 Hour this past Saturday and ended up 1st overall with 125 miles. The bike was perfect with 10.5 psi in the front tire and 13.5 in the blown up Ardent.

    This is what Salsa needs to built but with more clearance in the rear!
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    The tricky part...

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    Under 26 lbs, It's got Next cranks on it now, INine hubs, Nextie 50 mm rims XTR 11SP, XTR brakes, Syntace bar and stem, Easton post

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    In action!

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    Tons of traction, never even slid in 125 miles of loose, silty cornering!

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    Nice work, SC. Thanks for posting that up!

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    That plus spear is sweet!

    I just got done building up the crests/dt350s.Show me your Spearfish-14522784_1198010406923624_1121971223571675467_n.jpgShow me your Spearfish-14717040_1198010426923622_8410397580545165757_n.jpg

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    Show me your Spearfish-pa190859a.jpg

    2011 Spearfish. Fox 100 mm ctd front, Fox RP23 rear. Sram X9 10 speed (11-36) with Shimano Deore 22-36 front chainrings. Shimano XT brakes. Mavic Cross One wheels with tubeless Maxis Ardent Race (29x2.20) front and Maxis Crosmark (29x2.25) rear - both are actually 54 mm wide. I got the bike for a good price second hand with the never-used Salsa framebag thrown into the deal. Put on the framebag and it hasn't come off again.

    Great bike.

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    Nice Lieven. What size is your bike and which framebag model is that? They currently list the 6 and 7 for the split pivot models but the prior frames called for a BG5710 and 11. The older ones look to be out of stock everywhere so I'm wondering how the 6 would fit my medium 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankZappa6 View Post
    What size is your bike and which framebag model is that?
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    I'm currently abroad for a week, but can check on the framebag after getting home again. Anyway it is one of these : 2013 & Prior Spearfish Frame Bag | Parts & Accessories | Salsa Cycles, but I don't remember what size exactly. Bike is a size Medium.

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    Spearfishers, I could use your advice. Looking at a spearfish for longer rides endurance racing in Colorado. I can't find a demo ride the closest I can get my hands on is a Horsetheif and that has a lot more travel. I have read a lot of good stuff about the spearfish but the 80mm out back is throwing me a bit. Everything seems to point that it rides like more but I was hoping to get input from someone that has ridden in Colorado or similar type trails. Thanks for any input you may be able to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenry View Post
    Spearfishers, I could use your advice. Looking at a spearfish for longer rides endurance racing in Colorado. I can't find a demo ride the closest I can get my hands on is a Horsetheif and that has a lot more travel. I have read a lot of good stuff about the spearfish but the 80mm out back is throwing me a bit. Everything seems to point that it rides like more but I was hoping to get input from someone that has ridden in Colorado or similar type trails. Thanks for any input you may be able to offer.
    The fish "is what it is," a short travel 29er, nothing more. That being said, xc bikes today have slacker head angles, shorter chain stays, longer top tubes, much funner to ride on technical rocky trails. My fish is my go-to all around trail bike, I ride it anywhere I would ride my trance. In fact, the 29er wheels alone roll over gnarly sh** so much better than little brothers, I almost prefer a short travel 29er for all around trail riding. I do use the entire rear shock on pretty much every ride, but have never felt any harsh bottom outs, and that's with 25% sag. Dropper post, 120mm fork, Hans Dampf 2.35 in the front, no-one can argue with its trail capabilities. If you're into huge jumps, 6'+ drops, downhill speed, and the gnarliest of gnar trails, then shes probably not your beast.

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    Who's running a 120mm fork on a split pivot fish? Thoughts?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane5001 View Post
    The fish "is what it is," a short travel 29er, nothing more. That being said, xc bikes today have slacker head angles, shorter chain stays, longer top tubes, much funner to ride on technical rocky trails. My fish is my go-to all around trail bike, I ride it anywhere I would ride my trance. In fact, the 29er wheels alone roll over gnarly sh** so much better than little brothers, I almost prefer a short travel 29er for all around trail riding. I do use the entire rear shock on pretty much every ride, but have never felt any harsh bottom outs, and that's with 25% sag. Dropper post, 120mm fork, Hans Dampf 2.35 in the front, no-one can argue with its trail capabilities. If you're into huge jumps, 6'+ drops, downhill speed, and the gnarliest of gnar trails, then shes probably not your beast.
    Shane,
    Thanks for the advice on this Spearfish. I have a different bike if I want to go off drops etc. It sounds like a good fit for what I am wanting to do with it. To continue to nag with questions how do you like it with the 120mm up front. Does it still stay planted on steep climbs?

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    The split pivot fish is designed for 506mm a-c with a G2 offset. Trying to find a super sale on a G2 fork proved hard for me, but I ended up with a 2014 G2 Fox float 120. Its a-c is only about 518mm. All in all it rides great, but I suspect that I don't like the G2 offset. I am going to try a standard offset fork at 120 and 100. The front end doesn't wander on climbs or feel high, but it feels harder to make sharp turns than on my yelli screamy with a 140mm fork on it, maybe due to G2?? I have a couple of 29er forks, so I will swap out for awhile and chime back in later when I get some rides in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane5001 View Post
    What fork are you running on her? travel? offset? year of your frame?
    I think it's a 13. It's red. Thats about all I know!


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    Show me your Spearfish-img_2825.jpg


    2015 Spearfish 3: Aluminum, Large Frame

    -Fox 100 mm, 32 mm sta CTD Evolution fork with 51 mm offset
    -Fox Float CDT Evolution rear shock
    -Shimano HG50 10 spd (11-36t cassette) with Shimano Deore (22-34 t) chainrings
    -Shimano Deore Hydro brakes (160 mm front and back)
    -WTB SX19 Rims with tubeless Nobby Nics (29x2.35)
    -KS Lev Dropper with 125 mm and external routing
    -Race Face Chester Flat Pedals
    -Bontrager Lock on grips
    -Bontrager ion 700 light

    Solid XC bike, is my primary racing platform

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    OK, Magura ts8 120, standard offset, tall 530mm ish axle to crown, probably as tall as you'd want to go with this frame. 3 rides and no prob, actually steers as good or better. Have't decided if its better than the g2 yet, only 3 rides, but cleared 3 super sharp turns first ride, and 2 super steep techy climbs on the 2nd ride.

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