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    You´re welcome. Since I plan a tour across the western US for next year (already did AZ on my Surly) I was thinking about waiting and buy a complete Fargo in the US.

    But patience regarding a new bike is somewhat hard to obtain...

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    flat bars

    Great pictures and nice looking bike.

    Do flat bars change the rec'd frame size vs drop bars??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owlish View Post
    Good points. I'll be patient. Thanks for replying!
    I have a US made fargo ti in XL for sale. ridden for 112km.

    PM if interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by rides2slow View Post
    Great pictures and nice looking bike.

    Do flat bars change the rec'd frame size vs drop bars??

    Thanks.

    Thanks for your kind words.
    As for your question, I bought my usual size frame, never mounted bar drops. It's a little shorter than abitual but better so, with the stem can be configured to own taste.
    Greetings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueViajero View Post
    Thanks for your kind words.
    As for your question, I bought my usual size frame, never mounted bar drops. It's a little shorter than abitual but better so, with the stem can be configured to own taste.
    Greetings.
    Thanks for the help.

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    Looking for a 2012 Fargo ti. Any on-line vendors? Any help would be appreciated.....Thanks!

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    Me too! Size medium. TIA

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    Fargo cockpit tweaking

    Really inspiring stuff - glad you're riding. I built up my Salsa Fargo 2012 a few weeks ago, and have gone on a few single track rides around Phoenix on it. The initial build was:

    - On One Mary bars
    - x9 grip shifters + ergon grips
    - bb7 brakes
    - Mavic T521 wheels (super heavy)
    - FSA 20mm offset seatpost, 350mm
    - old-school, what looks like an 8 sp crank (nice shape, strong) 22/34/44
    - xt front D
    - x9 rear D
    - 11-34 9sp cassette
    - thomson 110mm x 5 degree stem

    Mary bars are great. They really put you back and upright. So upright, I feel like it's too much. I just tweaked the bars a little, instead of the Marys I put on the on one Fleegle bar, with a thomson 100mm x 0 degree stem. The position def feels more aggressive.

    I really like the grip shifters - they are precise, easy to use and don't interfere with grip. Downside is since the shifter is fatter than the grip, it does feel odd. Not too bad, but I'm still getting used to it.

    I also have ridden the bike with a suspension fork, x-fusion slide 29. It's currently set at 100mm, but I'll change it to 80mm soon - 100mm is just too much for that frame, feels off.

    Anyway, the fargo is a great hard tail as well. I really enjoy some of the rockier/more technical terrain with a suspension fork more than without.

    I'll post back re: Fleegle bars after a few rides.

    Quote Originally Posted by bwfox View Post
    I have been reading this thread since its' inception. in 2011 I debated between a Stumpjumper Comp 29er and the Fargo. I was working pt at a small LBS and the killer employee purchase on the Stumpy won me over. Fast forward a year and I had my left leg amputated below the knee. I decided my offroad would be a little more limited and we had moved 20 miles out of town with 5 miles of gravel to get to the ,mailbox and pavement. I gave my stumpy to a son and I ordered a Fargo. I am 5'10' with 34" inseam, ape arms, and a very short torso. As an indicator, my wife is 5'4", and she towers over me when we sit together on the sofa. When the Fargo came in, I knew I wanted to try and set it up with the drops. I left the steerer uncut and used an adjustable stem to allow me to get it dialed. I left the Woodchipper IIs on for 8 months. I eventually installed some inline cable adjusters to allow me to fine tune the derailleurs. With the Sram stuff, they should be included. I have not needed the ones for the BB7s, but I did need some for shifters. As winter approached, I went to some riser bars with Ergon grips with bar ends and X7 shifters and Avid brake levers. I also moved my stem down the steerer a couple of inches and used a 25mm longer stem. I also had to move my saddle back. I really like the set up for now. I hope to add a Mukluk to my stable in 2013 and then I would rebar the Fargo. I have liked the 10 speed cluster and I have enough gearing choices with the stock double. I just don't think I want to go back to the Apex shifters. I am thinking a Mary bar or something that gives multiple hand positions with mountain bike shifters and brake levers. I don't see myself doing enough offroad to justify suspension forks and giving up the multiple cage functions of the stock fork. I may even use some Gripshift on the next set up. I would have a mtn bar on a Mukluk with X5 or
    X7s.
    I have really enjoyed the Fargo and it would be the last one to leave. We ride a Burley tandem and the Fargo is my solo bike. I also have a 2013 Specialized CF Roubaix. It would be the first to leave, and it might to make room for a Muk.
    I don't do any touring. I have a 50 mile loop into town and back and the first 27 miles are dirt/gravel and then the highway back with the last 5 on the dirt again. The Fargo excells!
    The Muk would be my winter bike and a spare offroad bike for one of my sons in the summer.
    Thanks for all the years of keeping my Fargo lust active! I live in NE Nevada and have thousands of miles of old two track, but not much singletrack. I keep thinking of trying to raise Doug ID whenever we go to Lewsiston to visit her family. That's where she was born.
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    I got a Selle Anatomica "Titanico X" saddle for mine last week, and have put 60 or so miles on it so far. It is absolutely fantastic - I really had no idea a bike saddle could be this comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krshultz View Post
    I got a Selle Anatomica "Titanico X" saddle for mine last week, and have put 60 or so miles on it so far. It is absolutely fantastic - I really had no idea a bike saddle could be this comfortable.
    Yea, I, too, put a Titanico on my Fargo a couple of weeks ago. I bought the Mahogony one. It matches the decal on the 2012 Fargo 2. It has been surprisingly nice. I have tried Brooks 3 times and end up not being happy with them. I am going to put a Titanico on my new CX bike that is coming. Then I need to put a suspension fork on the Fargo. I am still liking the X7 shifters and brakes on a longer flatter stem and a riser ATB bars. I have held the Woodchippers back with the Apex brifters in case I decide to use them for long distance rides.
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    For the folks on here who haven't noticed: Selle Anatomica has their saddles on sale right now for $99.00. If you're riding on a saddle you don't like right now, it's something to consider.

    Another note: I asked about carrying the bicycle by the nose of the saddle. They said they'd rather I not do that, since these bikes can get so heavy fully loaded. I have a staircase to climb on my commute, and there's really no way around having to carry the bike up it. Mine's heavy enough with just my rear rack and commuting gear - I can't imagine what some of the bikepacking rigs on here weigh. In any case, with a loaded Fargo, it's best to not carry it by the nose of a Titanico saddle. Just FYI.

    Quote Originally Posted by bwfox View Post
    Yea, I, too, put a Titanico on my Fargo a couple of weeks ago. I bought the Mahogony one. It matches the decal on the 2012 Fargo 2. It has been surprisingly nice. I have tried Brooks 3 times and end up not being happy with them. I am going to put a Titanico on my new CX bike that is coming. Then I need to put a suspension fork on the Fargo. I am still liking the X7 shifters and brakes on a longer flatter stem and a riser ATB bars. I have held the Woodchippers back with the Apex brifters in case I decide to use them for long distance rides.
    Ha! I got the same color for the same exact reason. And I'm thinking about binning the Thudbuster now, too. I figure I can get the weight I added with the Titanico back if I switch to something like a Thomson seatpost. Maybe. It's not like I bought this bike for it to be a flyweight racing machine anyway.

    I ordered a standard Titanico, and was sent a Titanico X by mistake. I weigh 160 or so, and figured I needed the standard model, so I emailed. The next day, I got a phone call from them. We decided that I'd stick with the X, since I'm doing some off road riding. Not only that, if I didn't like the X, I can send it back through their usual return policy and get a standard. I currently have no intention of ever giving this saddle back to anybody, for any reason. I absolutely love it.

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    Selle-AnAtomica on a Fargo

    Quote Originally Posted by krshultz View Post
    I got a Selle Anatomica "Titanico X" saddle for mine last week, and have put 60 or so miles on it so far. It is absolutely fantastic - I really had no idea a bike saddle could be this comfortable.
    What type of terrain are you riding? I put a Titanico on my Fargo, as I love it on my road and touring bike, but, riding single track on it was literally a pain in the ass (and elsewhere). I was constantly in fear of coming down hard on the nose of that thing and really hurting myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatolyg View Post
    What type of terrain are you riding? I put a Titanico on my Fargo, as I love it on my road and touring bike, but, riding single track on it was literally a pain in the ass (and elsewhere). I was constantly in fear of coming down hard on the nose of that thing and really hurting myself.
    Mostly paved stuff sine I got the Anatomica. My commute to work is 10 miles each way. There is some bounding through parking lots, construction sites, and over curbs and stuff, but its mostly paved road and greenway. There is also a stretch of singletrack, but I haven't had a real singletrack ride for any amount of time in months now.

    When I do ride singletrack on this bike, I can't say that I'm super racy or aggressive. But it's been months now, and I'm in a lot better shape than I was, so maybe that will change.

    Have you got the Thudbuster (or some other suspension seat post) on yours?

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    Quick question. Can I put Deore trigger shifters..or any kind of trigger shifter on the stock Woodchipper 2 bars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krshultz View Post
    Mostly paved stuff sine I got the Anatomica. My commute to work is 10 miles each way. There is some bounding through parking lots, construction sites, and over curbs and stuff, but its mostly paved road and greenway. There is also a stretch of singletrack, but I haven't had a real singletrack ride for any amount of time in months now.

    When I do ride singletrack on this bike, I can't say that I'm super racy or aggressive. But it's been months now, and I'm in a lot better shape than I was, so maybe that will change.

    Have you got the Thudbuster (or some other suspension seat post) on yours?
    Makes sense. For pavement, the AnAtomica saddle is boss. I tried both it and a brooks b17 on singletrack here in Phoenix, and I liked the b17 a bit better, but both were just inadequate for that type of riding. I just picked up a Selle SMP saddle, so we'll see about that.

    I don't have a thudbuster on the bike, and I am not really sure I'll get one - the issue isn't so much the vibration, it's the hard landing. And even with a thudbuster, a hard landing on a hard saddle maybe damaging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bethany1 View Post
    Quick question. Can I put Deore trigger shifters..or any kind of trigger shifter on the stock Woodchipper 2 bars?

    Nope: Road controls only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus7Clark View Post
    If you've got some specific questions, create a new post. We all need more pics.

    Here ya go. New gold ano Midge Bars on my Fargo Gen I that started this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatolyg View Post
    Makes sense. For pavement, the AnAtomica saddle is boss. I tried both it and a brooks b17 on singletrack here in Phoenix, and I liked the b17 a bit better, but both were just inadequate for that type of riding. I just picked up a Selle SMP saddle, so we'll see about that.

    I don't have a thudbuster on the bike, and I am not really sure I'll get one - the issue isn't so much the vibration, it's the hard landing. And even with a thudbuster, a hard landing on a hard saddle maybe damaging.
    I can see how coming down hard on the business end of an Anatomica could be...eventful. On the other hand, in the small number of times I've done that with other bikes and saddles over the years, none have been a picnic. Aside from the hard nose and a perfectly reasonable fear of falling onto it, was there anything else that made you dislike the saddle on singletrack? Just curious. I'll be trying mine for the first time this weekend, weather and wife permitting.

    I put another several rides on the Anatomica, all on pavement with occasional detours through the woods. Yes. It is boss on pavement, just unbelievably good. I might ditch the Thudbuster. As I've gotten more fit, I find that on climbs, I feel like I'm bouncing around all over the place with that post.

    Anyway, this '12 Fargo 2 is fast becoming one of my favorite things I've ever owned. I've been having a blast with it. I never, ever would have predicted that I would bike 10 miles to work on a 35 degree day, but here I am, doing just that a few days a week. I can't imagine a better all purpose, goes anywhere bike for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krshultz View Post
    I can see how coming down hard on the business end of an Anatomica could be...eventful. On the other hand, in the small number of times I've done that with other bikes and saddles over the years, none have been a picnic. Aside from the hard nose and a perfectly reasonable fear of falling onto it, was there anything else that made you dislike the saddle on singletrack? Just curious. I'll be trying mine for the first time this weekend, weather and wife permitting.

    I snow put another several rides on the Anatomica, all on pavement with occasional detours through the woods. Yes. It is boss on pavement, just unbelievably good. I might ditch the Thudbuster. As I've gotten more fit, I find that on climbs, I feel like I'm bouncing around all over the place with that post.

    Anyway, this '12 Fargo 2 is fast becoming one of my favorite things I've ever owned. I've been having a blast with it. I never, ever would have predicted that I would bike 10 miles to work on a 35 degree day, but here I am, doing just that a few days a week. I can't imagine a better all purpose, goes anywhere bike for me.
    Yeah, beside the fear of coming down on it, my sit bones would get beaten up on it. I hear maybe tilting the seat a bit may help it, maybe I'll try that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatolyg View Post
    Yeah, beside the fear of coming down on it, my sit bones would get beaten up on it. I hear maybe tilting the seat a bit may help it, maybe I'll try that.
    I have mine tilted nose-up by probably 1/4". The directions they sent me with my billing statement said to start at 1/8" nose p, and go for a ride. With no hands on the bars, see if I slid forward, and to tilt the seat back more until I didn't. It looks a little funny, and now that I think about it, that cold exacerbate the fear of coming down on it some.

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    I really like the B17 off-road, it seems to dampen things and take the edge of vibes. I didn't care for the Thudbuster and B17...was to much. I should pick up a firm elastamor and give it another go or mount the WTB Silverado to it. I could see running it with something like a WTB. For off-road I don't know why you are landing on your saddle...operator error in my experience has had me bounce on the nose and smash 'em. Any groin to saddle contact is gonna hurt. I'd suggest working to be more suspension like with your arms and legs anticipating impacts.

    On another note, I'm not having good luck with the Thomson X2. It slips every now and then. Might have to go back to my x4 until I can find one with similar rise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by singlefin View Post
    I really like the B17 off-road, it seems to dampen things and take the edge of vibes. I didn't care for the Thudbuster and B17...was to much. I should pick up a firm elastamor and give it another go or mount the WTB Silverado to it. I could see running it with something like a WTB. For off-road I don't know why you are landing on your saddle...operator error in my experience has had me bounce on the nose and smash 'em. Any groin to saddle contact is gonna hurt. I'd suggest working to be more suspension like with your arms and legs anticipating impacts.

    On another note, I'm not having good luck with the Thomson X2. It slips every now and then. Might have to go back to my x4 until I can find one with similar rise.
    I feel the same way about the Thudbuster / Anatomica combo. It's a little too much, it feels...wobbly. I also agree that I only come crashing down onto the nose of a saddle when something else has gone badly wrong. You make a good point that it's going to hurt with a Brooks, an Anatomica, or a whatever.

    Thanks for the tip-off on that Thomson. I was just looking at their stuff and I guess i'll hold off for now.

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    So I spoke with Thomson and they are replacing my X2. Said the bore on the newer ones is smaller. I'll update after I get it. Wasn't expecting that since its intended use is road. Either way awesome customer service!!
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    I went in a different direction:







    -Brooks B17 honey saddle
    -Brooks honey bartape
    -Schwalbe Big Apples 29x2.0
    -Woody's Fenders - custom made Brazilian walnut
    -Portland Design Works payload rack

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    @the_agent: Best looking Fargo I've seen. Nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by krshultz View Post
    I feel the same way about the Thudbuster / Anatomica combo. It's a little too much, it feels...wobbly. I also agree that I only come crashing down onto the nose of a saddle when something else has gone badly wrong. You make a good point that it's going to hurt with a Brooks, an Anatomica, or a whatever.

    Thanks for the tip-off on that Thomson. I was just looking at their stuff and I guess i'll hold off for now.
    It depends how you're riding and what type of trails you're riding. But it things get technical, it's much easier to have a lower saddle that is a bit soft. I think Selle AnAtomica is generally designed for your saddle to be higher or level w/ your handlebars, whereas in mountain biking saddle is designed to be at same level or lower. So, for fire road touring, AnAtomica works well, but for singletrack, it's not optimal.

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    Thought i'd post up a shot of my fargo since my daughter got me fenders for christmas and i think that i now have it where i want!

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    New Fork

    I got this new 80mm travel Reba RL fork with G2, (51mm), offset for my Fargo Gen II. Can't wait for the trails to clear off in spring to try it out.
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    Great thread. Good research for my first build. Got my Fargo 2013 frameset from the LBS last week. Will post some pics from the build.

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    Ok guys, this is serious. I ordered a Fargo TI 2012 - frame. Unfortunately I won´t get it before January. Now because of the delivery delay the dealer offered me the 2013 model at a special price if I would wait for it. So the difference for me would be about 100 USD between these two frames. Downside is that I would have to wait even longer.

    So far I heard the 2013 model is no longer made by Linskey in the US, butted tubes, better finish - if all that is true. I saw that there are no rear upper rack mounts, people must buy the salsa seatclamp. And they changed the cable routing. What about the weight?
    Any other arguments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richmotion View Post
    I saw that there are no rear upper rack mounts, people must buy the salsa seatclamp. And they changed the cable routing.
    Wow...why would they get rid of the rear upper rack mounts? That would be a deal breaker for me. I do like the new cable routing on the 2013s though.

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    I should add to actually provide a useful comment that I have a 2011 Ti Fargo which is still my favorite bike ever. As a matter of fact I'm loading it up now for quick overnighter tomorrow in the forecast snow! Should be interesting getting home if we get much more snow than predicted.

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    How much longer is the wait time for the 2013, or do you know?

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    As I order from Germany, Europe (living in Austria) any given information would not apply to US... My dealer said "end of January..." - the same dealer who said 1 - 5 days delivery time for the 2012 Fargo TI. That was 4 weeks ago.

    It´s not even the dealer´s fault, he get´s the info from the import company. I do not understand why they have nothing in stock, but say so. Nor do I understand why and how they can still order 2012 models. Maybe they can´t.

    I see that one coming.

    Given the fact I can still choose: Which one should I take? I still think the 2012 model is a good choice, I need less patience (hopefully) and spare a little money. And even I am not an US citizen I buy an american frame.

    Regarding upper rear rack mounts: Yes, they are missing on the 2013 Fargo TI. You have to buy the Salsa Rack Lock seatclamp which has integrated rack mounts. I can only assume that Salsa wanted to reduce production costs by getting rid of them.

    More riders switch from racks and bags to frame bags, overkill saddle bags and anything-cages. Maybe racks are overrated...

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    Tough choice. I would take whichever one I could get.
    For what it's worth, my LBS (in the U.S.) checked his computer last week and said there were plenty of Fargo TI's (medium) available. I'm waiting to pull the trigger because I've never been able to ride a bluidy steel Fargo to confirm that it's the bike of my dreams. Soon as I do —

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    I plan on writing a detailed account of my build. Here is a pic for now. I'm very happy with it.


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    Topcat how are you enjoying the Topeak Rack and rear bag?

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    MagicCarpt —
    Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what is the rubber piece on your top tube? A bumper, for leaning against supports? I keep seeing these on Fargos but not on any other bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owlish View Post
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    Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what is the rubber piece on your top tube? A bumper, for leaning against supports? I keep seeing these on Fargos but not on any other bike.
    Likely for when the bars spin around to protect the top tube. That is what I have one for.

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    It's just to stop the bar ends from damaging the top tube. I started a thread about sizing Woodchipper bars in the Salsa forum a while back which contains some handy links to rubber bar ends that might negate the need for top tube protection. I am in Australia, so while the item is cheap, the postage makes it a bad value buy. I plan on making it a bit more attractive if I can and will get those bar ends one day. My bar end hits the cable mount, so no big deal as far as dings go, but could still damage bar tape.

    EDIT: Sorry, I must have been typing when bmike posted.

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    We've got a customer at the shop where I work and we just got word his large 2013 Fargo Ti is shipping now. If I get permission to take some images, I will.

    Rack mounts missing on the new ones will maybe lose a few folks, but rackless touring/bikepacking type set ups are what Salsa is designing this for I guess. Seems that works better off road for many. Vaya still has rack mounts, and is billed as their touring bike, so maybe that explains things better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCarpet View Post
    It's just to stop the bar ends from damaging the top tube. I started a thread about sizing Woodchipper bars in the Salsa forum a while back which contains some handy links to rubber bar ends that might negate the need for top tube protection. I am in Australia, so while the item is cheap, the postage makes it a bad value buy. I plan on making it a bit more attractive if I can and will get those bar ends one day. My bar end hits the cable mount, so no big deal as far as dings go, but could still damage bar tape.

    EDIT: Sorry, I must have been typing when bmike posted.
    The rubber bar ends suck, at least the ones I tried. Keep the tape / padding on there.

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    Does anyone use a Revelate Tangle bag on their Large Fargo? What size Tangle bag do you recommend? It looks like it would either be the Medium or the Large as the Large Fargo has a 20" top tube. Does anyone run either the Medium or Large Tangle bag have a preference for any reason? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dysun View Post
    Topcat how are you enjoying the Topeak Rack and rear bag?
    I like them, easy on and off fairly roomy only down side is i can't put it on with my ortlieb panniers as the clips that hold them on stick up just high enough that the topeak bag won't slide into its track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    I got this new 80mm travel Reba RL fork with G2, (51mm), offset for my Fargo Gen II. Can't wait for the trails to clear off in spring to try it out.
    I have a 100mm X-Fusion Slide fork on mine, and I think it rides great (although the front end is a little high, and I do want to change the fork to 80mm), but my question is about the G2 geometry - how does it compare to a non-G2 fork? Does the bike handle better/easier due to the extra offset? Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    @the_agent: Best looking Fargo I've seen. Nice!
    Thanks! It took about 2 months to get all the parts together, but I think it was worth it. Quite the head turner. I'll post a before and after shot when I get a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatolyg View Post
    I have a 100mm X-Fusion Slide fork on mine, and I think it rides great (although the front end is a little high, and I do want to change the fork to 80mm), but my question is about the G2 geometry - how does it compare to a non-G2 fork? Does the bike handle better/easier due to the extra offset? Thank you!
    First- Here is the Gen II Salsa Fargo geo page link for reference: Salsa Cycles | Bikes | Fargo 2

    Notice that the fork length is 468mm. In other words, compensated for an 80mm travel fork. That explains why your 100mm fork, (and the G2 Fox 100mm fork I tried first), raises the bars up. Longer axle to crown there.

    Secondly you will notice that the head angle is 71° on large Fargos w/stock fork installed. Fork offset is 45mm as listed on their site.

    Any replacement suspension fork that is 80mm travel, non-G2 will be pretty close to Salsa's intended handling traits. However; that doesn't mean you can't "tune your ride" a bit.

    Putting a G2 offset fork on the Fargo I have does two things- 1st it reduces the "trail figure" vs a 46mm offset Reba, which makes the handling a touch less stable/quicker. I like that. You may not. It is simply a choice I could make, or that anyone could make, if they wanted a sharper/quicker handling bike.

    Secondly, that little bit more of an offset kicks the front tire out just a hair, reducing the possibility of toe overlap. I do not care about that, personally, but it is a "benefit" for some, possibly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    Notice that the fork length is 468mm. In other words, compensated for an 80mm travel fork. That explains why your 100mm fork, (and the G2 Fox 100mm fork I tried first), raises the bars up. Longer axle to crown there.

    Secondly you will notice that the head angle is 71° on large Fargos w/stock fork installed. Fork offset is 45mm as listed on their site.

    Any replacement suspension fork that is 80mm travel, non-G2 will be pretty close to Salsa's intended handling traits. However; that doesn't mean you can't "tune your ride" a bit.

    Putting a G2 offset fork on the Fargo I have does two things- 1st it reduces the "trail figure" vs a 46mm offset Reba, which makes the handling a touch less stable/quicker. I like that. You may not. It is simply a choice I could make, or that anyone could make, if they wanted a sharper/quicker handling bike.

    Secondly, that little bit more of an offset kicks the front tire out just a hair, reducing the possibility of toe overlap. I do not care about that, personally, but it is a "benefit" for some, possibly.
    Thanks for a thorough explanation.

    I think the first step for me is to correct the geometry by reducing front travel. Play around with it, and see what happens. I don't have overlap issues with my current setup, but, a quicker bike sounds interesting, though I'd rather just get better and see if it makes a difference. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acoldsteadyrain View Post
    Does anyone use a Revelate Tangle bag on their Large Fargo? What size Tangle bag do you recommend? It looks like it would either be the Medium or the Large as the Large Fargo has a 20" top tube. Does anyone run either the Medium or Large Tangle bag have a preference for any reason? Thanks!
    I have a medium frame and my tangle bag is a small. I ordered it directly from Revelate and in my notes wrote if medium is big or small feel free to adjust my size to what fits the best. I got a sticker with a note on the back saying a small fits best (for a medium).
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