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    The 2013 brown looks awesome ...so much better than Salsa's web photos suggested.

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    Loving my Fargo Now with brown Brooks B17 and brown Salsa Gel bar tape.

    Still fiddling with my cockpit geometry, choice is between a 90mm or 100mm hi-rise stem. The 90mm I currently have fitted (borrowed from another bike!) gives a great position but the front wheel is a little light on steep climbs.

    For non-UK readers, these pics are titled 'Farguynaut' as they were taken on Nov 5 'Guy Faulkes' day


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    Beautiful sunset Tim..... or beautiful dawn?

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    Thanks everyone for the ideas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueViajero View Post
    Beautiful sunset Tim..... or beautiful dawn?
    Do you mean 'Jason'? If so, thank you and it's a sunset here in Scotland

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    This may or may not be the right forum for this, but what backpack do people like who ride the Fargo on multi-day bikepacking trips? Looking for something not too big with a water bladder about 3 liters... Any recs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acoldsteadyrain View Post
    This may or may not be the right forum for this, but what backpack do people like who ride the Fargo on multi-day bikepacking trips? Looking for something not too big with a water bladder about 3 liters... Any recs?
    I have an older rei bag that has held up really well. Holds a bladder and everything. I got it from their online outlet for a steal

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason-l View Post
    Do you mean 'Jason'? If so, thank you and it's a sunset here in Scotland
    I`m so sorry Jason.

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    I have been reading this thread since its' inception. in 2011 I debated between a Stumpjumper Comp 29er and the Fargo. I was working pt at a small LBS and the killer employee purchase on the Stumpy won me over. Fast forward a year and I had my left leg amputated below the knee. I decided my offroad would be a little more limited and we had moved 20 miles out of town with 5 miles of gravel to get to the ,mailbox and pavement. I gave my stumpy to a son and I ordered a Fargo. I am 5'10' with 34" inseam, ape arms, and a very short torso. As an indicator, my wife is 5'4", and she towers over me when we sit together on the sofa. When the Fargo came in, I knew I wanted to try and set it up with the drops. I left the steerer uncut and used an adjustable stem to allow me to get it dialed. I left the Woodchipper IIs on for 8 months. I eventually installed some inline cable adjusters to allow me to fine tune the derailleurs. With the Sram stuff, they should be included. I have not needed the ones for the BB7s, but I did need some for shifters. As winter approached, I went to some riser bars with Ergon grips with bar ends and X7 shifters and Avid brake levers. I also moved my stem down the steerer a couple of inches and used a 25mm longer stem. I also had to move my saddle back. I really like the set up for now. I hope to add a Mukluk to my stable in 2013 and then I would rebar the Fargo. I have liked the 10 speed cluster and I have enough gearing choices with the stock double. I just don't think I want to go back to the Apex shifters. I am thinking a Mary bar or something that gives multiple hand positions with mountain bike shifters and brake levers. I don't see myself doing enough offroad to justify suspension forks and giving up the multiple cage functions of the stock fork. I may even use some Gripshift on the next set up. I would have a mtn bar on a Mukluk with X5 or
    X7s.
    I have really enjoyed the Fargo and it would be the last one to leave. We ride a Burley tandem and the Fargo is my solo bike. I also have a 2013 Specialized CF Roubaix. It would be the first to leave, and it might to make room for a Muk.
    I don't do any touring. I have a 50 mile loop into town and back and the first 27 miles are dirt/gravel and then the highway back with the last 5 on the dirt again. The Fargo excells!
    The Muk would be my winter bike and a spare offroad bike for one of my sons in the summer.
    Thanks for all the years of keeping my Fargo lust active! I live in NE Nevada and have thousands of miles of old two track, but not much singletrack. I keep thinking of trying to raise Doug ID whenever we go to Lewsiston to visit her family. That's where she was born.
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    hi guys

    can somebody give me a favor and measure an L-sized fargo front to rear and floor to top?

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    Hi wombat, I have a L Fargo 2 2013.

    The height, from the top of the hoods to the tire, is 108cm or 42in.
    From tire to tire it measures 183cm or 72in.

    Hope that helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by i.wombat View Post
    hi guys

    can somebody give me a favor and measure an L-sized fargo front to rear and floor to top?
    Of course, the stem choice and position would effect the height measurement by quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Careby View Post
    I have come to the conclusion that drop bars aren't going to work for me. My back is old and battered and demands an upright, relaxed riding position. I've tried to get that with Woodchipper bars on the Fargo, but at the height I need they just don't work.

    The good news is that while the Fargo's short top tube and high head tube work against mounting a flat bar in "normal" mountain bike riding position, it's fine for the upright, relaxed position I'm looking for. My most comfortable bike is a LHT with Surly Open Bar on a high stem. Measuring it side-by-side with my Fargo, it's very similar and I can see that it would easily be possible to get the same position. The Fargo has a couple more inches of uncut steerer tube height, but because of the head tube angle it intrudes back into the cockpit space. Even though I need the height, I plan to cut the steerer tube and use a high angle stem for more "belly room". I've ordered a set of H-bars to try on the Fargo, but if they don't work out I can fall back to the Open Bar.

    So put me on the list of deviants who have strayed from the official "drop bar only" Fargo design.
    Because of my unique build and riding with a prosthetic, the Fargo makes an awesome relaxed mtn bike fit. I am 5'10" with 34" inseam and long arms and very short torso. The riser bars and Sram mtn bike controls are nice and better than the Apex for me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by docfuel View Post
    I'm looking for a go anywhere bike. I was thinking a monster cross style with a 29er frame, rigid fork and drop bars. As a background, I'm really a competitive triathlete who likes to bike. Three years ago, I was talked into getting a mountain bike, and I get a huge kick out of it. It may even be benefiting my racing. I'm nowhere near skilled enough for technical single track riding, so I stick steeper fire roads and a few easier single and double tracks. I want a bike that I can take on on a trip and enjoy most anything that they have out there. I might even want 2 sets of wheels with different tires for pure trail or mixed riding.

    Some of the frames I've considered are the Fargo and the Soma Juice. It was suggested that consider a Surly Ogre. It appears, from the comments here, that the Fargo might be just the bike I need. I notice that there were some reports of shimmy, which I don't particularly care. It is unlikely that I'll be doing any trekking, BTW. I'm 5' 10.5" tall and have a 33 inch inseam. I'm 60 and not particularly flexible, so a long top tube probably wouldn't work well without a really short stem, which I would think, would make the Ogre a poor choice, but I just don't know.

    Does the Fargo seem like a good choice, or would you suggest something else? Any suggestions on a fork would be appreciated, as well. I thought that changing the bar-ends to thumbies would probably be preferable, as well.
    I don't know what you ended up buying, but I am 60, 5'10" and a 34" inseam. I also ride with a bk prosthetic and the Fargo fits my mtn bike needs and a L works very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acoldsteadyrain View Post
    Hi wombat, I have a L Fargo 2 2013.

    The height, from the top of the hoods to the tire, is 108cm or 42in.
    From tire to tire it measures 183cm or 72in.

    Hope that helps!
    thanks, you helped me a lot!
    (i'm building kind of a closet for my current and future bikes)

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    I just finished my Fargo build...

    Tomorrow morning will be my first commute on my new ride. I have built up bikes before, but this was my first time building up my own wheels. They are ZTR Flow rims with the stickers removed laced to DT Swiss 240 hubs. I hope they stay as true under use as they are now...

    I have ordered a set of Tubus racks (Tara for the front and Logo for the back) as the Fargo is destined to become my mule. Once I have those, I will strip the OMM racks from my El Mariachi and convert it back to the simplistic 2x2 commuter I have come to miss...
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    Quote Originally Posted by landlocked View Post
    Tomorrow morning will be my first commute on my new ride. I have built up bikes before, but this was my first time building up my own wheels. They are ZTR Flow rims with the stickers removed laced to DT Swiss 240 hubs. I hope they stay as true under use as they are now...

    I have ordered a set of Tubus racks (Tara for the front and Logo for the back) as the Fargo is destined to become my mule. Once I have those, I will strip the OMM racks from my El Mariachi and convert it back to the simplistic 2x2 commuter I have come to miss...
    Beautiful bikes...

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    I have just had another fantastic mini adventure on my Fargo. This bike is shaping up to be something pretty special. I can imagine it being a very longstanding and faithful companion.

    So the plan was for a sub 24hour overnighter. It's pretty wet and cold in Northern England at this time of year. The plan was to ride, meet up with friends at a Beer Festival, ride some more, sleep in a Bothy (a mountain refuge or shooting hut) overnight, they go and watch the biggest historic motor rally in Europe the next morning.

    It went well. The Fargo was fantastic, the morning crisp and bitterly cold, company was great, the beer outstanding and the rally cars hit the spot too!

    Fargo on frozen Yorkshire Moors.


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    Result!


    First Dawn


    I'm stepping outside. I may be some time.


    Sun rises over the moors and on our way again


    And finally an old Porsche at full chat through the forest.


    A magic weekend made all the better for being on a Fargo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acoldsteadyrain View Post
    Long time lurker, Fargo-newbie. Just picked up a 2013 Faro 2 and was going to post some pics, but apparently I have to make 10 posts first.

    Question: If I wanted to pick up some size 40/42 tires to run on the Fargo for road/easy dirt rides, what are some good brands/tires? Thanks!
    Just picked up a 2013 Fargo 2 myself, after the first ride I changed out the tires with some Schwalbe Marathon Mondial 700x40. I already had the tires on another bike, just a matter of swapping them out. I ride everything from pavement, rails to trails, back road's in southern IL to a little single track. These work well for me, but do have their limits. The tires are not very good in Sand or Mud, also have to be a little more careful when crashing single track, the front tire likes to slide out. If I did not already have the tires I might have considered the 1.75" or 2.0".

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    Anyone ever try the Clement's that Salsa runs stock on the Vaya? Debating between those and the Schwalbes....

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    Enjoying my Fargo! Nothing like taking a half day at work on a 30 something degree day so I can go ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acoldsteadyrain View Post
    Anyone ever try the Clement's that Salsa runs stock on the Vaya? Debating between those and the Schwalbes....

    Here is a review I wrote: Gravel Grinder News: Gravel Grinder Gear: Clement X'Plor MSO Final Review
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    In early October I rode my Fargo across Iowa (420 miles, 50% gravel) with the Clement X'Plor MSO tires and they performed very well. I had no flats and found the tires comfortable and very stable in all but the roughest gravel. These are the tires I will use for all my mixed terrain road rides and touring. My Fargo felt like a totally different bike than with the Race Kings.

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    salsa / revelate frame bag by mbeganyi, on Flickr

    love the salsa / revelate frame bag.
    have the race kings back on. studs soon.
    really miss the vulpines. will be sad when they wear through. will have to check out some of these replacements. they have been my go to gravel / dirt / bikepacking mixed road / trail / dirt / forest road tire.

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    Thanks you guys, great input on the Clements.

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    front der

    sorry if this has been asked but what front derailleur are people using

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnelson View Post
    sorry if this has been asked but what front derailleur are people using
    campy centaur triple with barcon shifters on an XT 3 ring crankset

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    Have a shimano xt derailleur with force shifters. Took an xt 2 ring crankset and converted it to 44-28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bnelson View Post
    sorry if this has been asked but what front derailleur are people using
    The new version of the Fargo requires a top-pull front derailleur, the previous one uses a bottom pull low clamp. I run a SRAM X7 low clamp dual pull.
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    Thanks for all the information will look into all the options

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    IMG_8843 by mbeganyi, on Flickr


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    time to put on the studs...

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    Suspension Fork Options

    So what susser fork could I use on the Fargo? I want an 80mm and I want to run my stock wheels with 9mm QR axles. I have a Gen II in a L. I want a decent fork for light trail use. I have some riser bars and X7 shifters. I don't want to spend $500 or more...
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    I run the Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700x50 on my Fargo with Stans rim strips on the stock DT Swiss rims. I use the bike as a commuter over gravel and paved roads along with bike paths. Seems to be a great tire that does well on all surfaces.

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    First impressions

    Thanks to everyone for this great thread. It was really helpful in deciding to get a Fargo. Just wanted to comment on some of the topics that have been discussed regarding the Fargo, sizing, toe overlap, etc. I am 6'2" with long arms and legs, and size 49 feet. I went with the large size. It fits very well with stock components and is my most comfortable bike by far (also have stumpy and roubaix). With regards to toe overlap, it is close. I have about a half inch of room between my toes and the Race King tires that come stock. Am I going to install fenders, no. Size 2.4 inch tires, maybe. Studded 2.4 inch tires, probably not unless I want my toes aerated, will depend on the true tire size. But I am really happy with this size because I have been doing a fair bit of mountain biking with it and the clearance is good and the wheel base is even shorter than my stumpy which I really appreciate on some of the technical stuff (this is not a point and shoot bike ;-). I also use it commuting and it is a great commuting bike for all the canal trails, bike paths, and gravel paths that I take to work. Even good for the construction zones. It really is a go everywhere bike and really happy I chose it over the vaya that I was also looking at. My stumpy and roubaix and both starting to collect dust and are not happy with the new addition to the stable! ;-)
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    Nice Fargo. I wear size 49 insulated Northwave winter shoes and have fenders on my XL 2012 Fargo and haven't had any issues with clearance. Tires are 700x50 but I also did a few rides with the Race Kings before changing and had ok clearance as well with Planet Bike fenders. If I do a bikepacking trip I'll pull the 2.4 ardents off my NinerRIP and remove the fenders. Hopefully there is still room for toe clearance. Is the picture taken near Buffalo Creek? I don't recognize the trail sign but it looks like the landscape. By the way, my Roubaix is a little lonelier as well!

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    Hi 7ski, I too opted for the Fargo in lieu of the Vaya. Couldn't be happier. Really feel like there are few limits with the Fargo, and the sacrifice in terms of speed/road riding appears to me to be negligible at best.

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    The Fargo is quite possibly the best all-around (non-downhill/serious mountain biking) bike going right now. Light>moderate singletrack, gravel, paved, fire roads, touring etc. It handles it all.

    It has become my preferred bike in my stable. I have a Bianchi San Jose I used to use for gravel riding, and it is now collecting dust.
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    I'm asking here because many Fargos have Thudbusters, as does mine: how do you adjust the angle of the seat with a Thudbuster? I'm going to try that, or maybe a new saddle, as I love my Fargo, but it's become a literal pain in the nuts.

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    Thudbuster

    The thud buster has two adjustment screws on the bottom u can change the angle with.

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    Loosen the rear screw, then adjust with the knurled knob/screw that is about 4-5 cm in front of that and tighten the rear screw again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acoldsteadyrain View Post
    Hi 7ski, I too opted for the Fargo in lieu of the Vaya. Couldn't be happier. Really feel like there are few limits with the Fargo, and the sacrifice in terms of speed/road riding appears to me to be negligible at best.
    I have a 30 mile one way commute and lose about 15 minutes of total time vs my light carbon road bike. Average speed difference about 2 mph. The comfort of the bike is worth it plus being able to jump curbs and hit potholes without worry. The bike is the Swiss Army knife of bikes!

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    The 6 mile climb from my house to the usual meeting place for most of my road bike rides takes about 30 minutes on the road bike and about 32 on the MTB with Race Kings. From there, I lose about 1-1.5 mph over the next 13 miles and 2100' of climbing. Downhill, if I don't spin out, I keep up just fine. Actually, if I spin out, I can keep up by tucking.

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    This might be pure sacrilege, but just a quick preview of the direction I'm going in as it currently sits in the shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miltony527 View Post
    Is your frame bag a Carousel Design Works? I'm fascinated by those. Salsa should make a production frame bag for this bike.
    They do!

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    Two years ago I thought about the Fargo, but since I had most parts from an old bike, I ended up with the Surly Cross Check, which is an excellent versatile bike. I never got the Fargo out of my head though.

    Yesterday I ordered a Salsa Fargo Titanium Frame!

    Model 2012 - there are some left here in Europe, and much cheaper than the 2013-model which is still not available here. I also ordered some serious parts, I think I got the right symbiosis of price, weight and durability.

    Ready to go my Fargo should weigh around 23,2 lbs, naked. Added with fenders and racks it should make a very light touring bike. Stripped I will have an excellent CC-mountainbike, which should handle everything I am able to.
    I am very looking forward to build it up. I will post pictures and parts list when finished...

    Richard

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    Richmotion:
    So if several of us put together a group buy for European Ti Fargos and made it worth your while, would you buy them and ship to us here in the U.S.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richmotion View Post
    Two years ago I thought about the Fargo, but since I had most parts from an old bike, I ended up with the Surly Cross Check, which is an excellent versatile bike. I never got the Fargo out of my head though.

    Yesterday I ordered a Salsa Fargo Titanium Frame!

    Model 2012 - there are some left here in Europe, and much cheaper than the 2013-model which is still not available here. I also ordered some serious parts, I think I got the right symbiosis of price, weight and durability.

    Ready to go my Fargo should weigh around 23,2 lbs, naked. Added with fenders and racks it should make a very light touring bike. Stripped I will have an excellent CC-mountainbike, which should handle everything I am able to.
    I am very looking forward to build it up. I will post pictures and parts list when finished...

    Richard
    Good project!
    Greetings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owlish View Post
    Richmotion:
    So if several of us put together a group buy for European Ti Fargos and made it worth your while, would you buy them and ship to us here in the U.S.?
    First you should know that the Fargo TI 2012 is sold for USD 2122 here in Europe. That was the cheapest one available, Frame only, of course. In your case I would wait for the 2013, I strongly believe that the newer frame is still cheaper in the US than the older one here in EU. If you are still interested I could ask how many there are left and what the shipping to the US would cost. But I think it is not worth shipping an already more expensive frame back to the US...

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    Good points. I'll be patient. Thanks for replying!

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