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    Quote Originally Posted by jbandt View Post
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    Well I guess it's just me, but the drops look more parallel to the ground on the website vs my 2016.

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    it has to be the angle the camera is at. in the top pic the camera is above. in the bottom picture the camera is below.

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    also, the bars on the top bike appear to be rotated sightly more upward than on the bottom bike, but the differing perspectives make that hard to assess as well.
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    [QUOTE=j
    Well I guess it's just me, but the drops look more parallel to the ground on the website vs my 2016.

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    Look at the radius of the bend. It is the same model bar in both images.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JNKER View Post
    Hi gang-

    One, I want to subscribe to the thread because I'm a new (2015) Fargo owner but two, I'm a reading correctly in the forums that Fargos cannot accept fenders? I'd love to commute in the rain with it. If there are hacks (clamps, zip ties, etc.), I just didn't see them.
    This was covered earlier, but you can get the alternator plates for the rear eyelets. I just bought these: https://goo.gl/1PFEBc

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACosta View Post
    Pretty awesome that Eurovelo trip. Is the route mainly on roads?
    mainly on dedicated bike paths, mostly paved
    the rest on low traffic roads

    here's the network map, what I did is the 15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    With a pair of ski straps.
    I used straps for my tent on the handlebar but it wasn't a great idea

    it flattened the jagwires on the headtube, rubbing off the paint
    plus I experienced less shifting performance and a German lbs told me it was because of the wires being squeezed in a awkward routing

    didn't you experience same issues?

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    [/ATTACH]The Salsa Fargo Thread-image.jpgJust upgraded my Fargo with dura ace hydro disc brakes. Have not upgraded to Di2 yet but do have plans to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciquta View Post
    I used straps for my tent on the handlebar but it wasn't a great idea

    it flattened the jagwires on the headtube, rubbing off the paint
    plus I experienced less shifting performance and a German lbs told me it was because of the wires being squeezed in a awkward routing

    didn't you experience same issues?
    Honestly, I haven't experienced that issue, and I've carried a drybag this way many times. With the cables routed flush with the bars almost all the way to the stem, they are already parallel with the bars and push out of the way easily without kinking or torqueing, in my experience. But it may also depend on how much excess cable one has and how large of a bag.

    As far as paint rub goes, either stick a little clear frame-saver tape on the rub areas, or embrace it as a sign that you are using the bike as it was intended.
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    Long time lurker here with a fitting dilemma. I'm 5'10" (178 cm) with a 30.5" (77.5 cm) inseam. Translated that means I have a long torso and have a 6' fingertip to fingertip wingspan. Not exactly gorilla long arms, but you get the picture. I own a 2013 Fargo size large. It was something of an impulse buy and I've been really pleased with the bike. I've test ridden medium framed Fargos and El Mars which seemed to be OK, but I felt cramped a bit. Since I was riding on platform pedals and not keeping my feet exactly planted, I got enough toe strike to keep me thinking that my large frame Fargo was the right size. That said, I'm still thinking this bike is a little too big for me. In the drops or on the hoods, I'm comfortable with a 100mm stem, but standover is very intimate. Has anyone with a build like mine started out on a large, switched to a medium and been happy with the results? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ballen35748 View Post
    Long time lurker here with a fitting dilemma. I'm 5'10" (178 cm) with a 30.5" (77.5 cm) inseam. Translated that means I have a long torso and have a 6' fingertip to fingertip wingspan. Not exactly gorilla long arms, but you get the picture. I own a 2013 Fargo size large. It was something of an impulse buy and I've been really pleased with the bike. I've test ridden medium framed Fargos and El Mars which seemed to be OK, but I felt cramped a bit. Since I was riding on platform pedals and not keeping my feet exactly planted, I got enough toe strike to keep me thinking that my large frame Fargo was the right size. That said, I'm still thinking this bike is a little too big for me. On the drop or on the hoods, I'm comfortable with a 100mm stem, but standover is very intimate. Has anyone with a build like mine started out on a large, switched to a medium and been happy with the results? Thanks!
    Sounds like you need to find a frame set in a large with a lower stand over, rather than a different size. A quick check of Surlys show
    The Karate Monkey with a stand over 1 cm shorter. I didn't check the other Salsas. I suspect anything with a very high stack will have a higher stand over. The Fargo SO was the same as the Krampus, ECR, and Ogre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ballen35748 View Post
    Long time lurker here with a fitting dilemma. I'm 5'10" (178 cm) with a 30.5" (77.5 cm) inseam. Translated that means I have a long torso and have a 6' fingertip to fingertip wingspan. Not exactly gorilla long arms, but you get the picture. I own a 2013 Fargo size large. It was something of an impulse buy and I've been really pleased with the bike. I've test ridden medium framed Fargos and El Mars which seemed to be OK, but I felt cramped a bit. Since I was riding on platform pedals and not keeping my feet exactly planted, I got enough toe strike to keep me thinking that my large frame Fargo was the right size. That said, I'm still thinking this bike is a little too big for me. In the drops or on the hoods, I'm comfortable with a 100mm stem, but standover is very intimate. Has anyone with a build like mine started out on a large, switched to a medium and been happy with the results? Thanks!
    I wish I had some good advice for you, but I'm more or less in the same boat. I'm trying to figure out which Fargo to buy...I'm about 1 inch taller than you, but with the same inseam and wingspan. I've ridden a medium, which just felt a little too upright for me, though it also had a fairly short 80mm stem. I'm leaning towards getting a large, though I've never had the chance to try one out yet. I feel like with my torso-heavy proportions, I am always between sizes. Curious to see what your conclusion ends up being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigoz5 View Post
    I wish I had some good advice for you, but I'm more or less in the same boat. I'm trying to figure out which Fargo to buy...I'm about 1 inch taller than you, but with the same inseam and wingspan. I've ridden a medium, which just felt a little too upright for me, though it also had a fairly short 80mm stem. I'm leaning towards getting a large, though I've never had the chance to try one out yet. I feel like with my torso-heavy proportions, I am always between sizes. Curious to see what your conclusion ends up being.

    Other than the standover intimacy, the bike fits me well and for the time being, I'm so done with agonizing over changing frames or selling this one and getting a new bike. I'm just going to ride the crap out of it and have some fun. I have a full kit of Revelate bags, 2-3 sets of tires, Jones bars ( to swap in when the mood strikes, stem length advice noted) and a really nice set of custom wheels from Sugar for this bike and I love the versatility. Being honest with myself, the most adventuring I'll ever do on this bike would be to ride the Maah Daah Hey next year. Maybe four days on that trail will convince me to go a different direction.
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    So has anyone seen any creative ways of using Di2 or Etap with dropbars?

    I'm normally pretty much a retrogrouch these days, but the idea of being able to build a brifterless dirtdrop setup using the various toggle switches is pretty cool. I'm just not sure if anyone's done it yet? (I think the SRAM timetrial blips would be the way to go, but then the rest of their system probably isn't suited to offroad yet)

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    So has anyone seen any creative ways of using Di2 or Etap with dropbars?
    You can use TRP Hylex brakes and use their integrated Di2 switch.

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    Unless you want carbon; I would look at the new Salsa Timberjack 27.5+ in Medium (the defacto replacement for the steel El Mariachi). TIMBERJACK 27.5+ X1 | Bikes | Salsa Cycles Great deal for $1400; even if you decide to upgrade to drop-bars. In my opinion the Fargo's reach is way too short for someone with long arms.

    Med. Timberjack (27.5 +) = Reach: 430mm / Standover: 29.5"
    Med. Fargo (27.5 +) = Reach: 368mm / Standover: 30.6"

    Quote Originally Posted by ballen35748 View Post
    Long time lurker here with a fitting dilemma. I'm 5'10" (178 cm) with a 30.5" (77.5 cm) inseam. Translated that means I have a long torso and have a 6' fingertip to fingertip wingspan. Not exactly gorilla long arms, but you get the picture. I own a 2013 Fargo size large. It was something of an impulse buy and I've been really pleased with the bike. I've test ridden medium framed Fargos and El Mars which seemed to be OK, but I felt cramped a bit. Since I was riding on platform pedals and not keeping my feet exactly planted, I got enough toe strike to keep me thinking that my large frame Fargo was the right size. That said, I'm still thinking this bike is a little too big for me. In the drops or on the hoods, I'm comfortable with a 100mm stem, but standover is very intimate. Has anyone with a build like mine started out on a large, switched to a medium and been happy with the results? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by buell View Post
    You can use TRP Hylex brakes and use their integrated Di2 switch.
    That is cool, but personally I'm hoping it'll be possible to de-integrate brakes and shifting. I like the idea of just being able to put shifter buttons wherever - so either the sram blips, or shimano sprint shifters. From some quick reading, I think the shimano pave/climbing shifter is probably the closest solution right now, but it's a little chunky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newfangled View Post
    So has anyone seen any creative ways of using Di2 or Etap with dropbars?

    I'm normally pretty much a retrogrouch these days, but the idea of being able to build a brifterless dirtdrop setup using the various toggle switches is pretty cool. I'm just not sure if anyone's done it yet? (I think the SRAM timetrial blips would be the way to go, but then the rest of their system probably isn't suited to offroad yet)
    I am planning on Di2 on my Fargo, although my wife may beat me to it. We just put on the Dura Ace Di2 hydro brakes so part way there. I think with areo bars I would like the Di2 barcon shifters as well. Looking at our options.
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    So poking around a bit more, apparently this eshifting-for-any-derailleur scheme just got announced in the last few days (and I swear, I have zero affiliation with any other this):

    XShifter brings wireless electronic shifting to any bike, any derailleur - Bikerumor



    The split clamp on the shifter is cool, because it could probably be finagled onto drops easily enough, but is still probably too chunky for good dirtdrops ergonomics.

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    First post so play nice!

    Considering this 2010 Fargo Local owner and in great shape with some nice options (internal gears, hydrolic brakes) for $800 cad (about $600usd) but I just can't get past the lack of drop bars. Have been told to budget $300-400 to convert as breaks are hydrolic and shifter won't mount on new bar so need to replace bar (potentially stem), shifter and brake levers.

    Looking for for advice a) is the bike worth $800 as is, b) is it worth it to upgrade to drop bars and c) any further thoughts on possible alternative (less expensive) bar mods.

    I'm mostly looking for a kick ass commuter with possible touring options. Thanks!! (Oh. Also, I noted someone earlier saying theirs did not take fenders which this one clearly has. I'll ask tomorrow about the brand they used in the build)


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    Quote Originally Posted by John-Z View Post
    . Also, I noted someone earlier saying theirs did not take fenders which this one clearly has. I'll ask tomorrow about the brand they used in the build)
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    You can't put fenders on stock models since 2014, when they added the alternator dropouts.
    No problems with older dropout.


    A flat bar Fargo doesn't make much sense to me... anyway if you want to save have a look at Mary Bar.

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    soma gator bar too
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    Quote Originally Posted by John-Z View Post
    First post so play nice!

    Considering this 2010 Fargo Local owner and in great shape with some nice options (internal gears, hydrolic brakes) for $800 cad (about $600usd) but I just can't get past the lack of drop bars. Have been told to budget $300-400 to convert as breaks are hydrolic and shifter won't mount on new bar so need to replace bar (potentially stem), shifter and brake levers.

    Looking for for advice a) is the bike worth $800 as is, b) is it worth it to upgrade to drop bars and c) any further thoughts on possible alternative (less expensive) bar mods.

    I'm mostly looking for a kick ass commuter with possible touring options. Thanks!! (Oh. Also, I noted someone earlier saying theirs did not take fenders which this one clearly has. I'll ask tomorrow about the brand they used in the build)


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    You can't tell condition (entirely) from the photo, but it looks like a good deal if everything is serviceable. I'd wait on the bar until you ride it. If you're set on replacing them, you might consider Jone's H-Bars (not droppers but pretty comfy and you won't need new brake levers or shifters) or trading with someone who's going to flats with their Fargo. Those are Planet Bike Fenders, I'd consider a Problem Solvers Fender Flute on the front, to solve the gap issue with the front fender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buell View Post
    yes buy it
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciquta View Post
    A flat bar Fargo doesn't make much sense to me.
    Me either! Love the look / set up of the bike with drop bars.

    Quote Originally Posted by buell View Post
    soma gator bar too
    Bam! That could be the ticket to a cheap way of switching over for now and then I can get the proper levers on there down the road when I have a bit more $$

    Quote Originally Posted by Forster View Post
    I'd wait on the bar until you ride it... I'd consider a Problem Solvers Fender Flute on the front, to solve the gap issue with the front fender.
    I think this is exactly what I will do and if I want to swap over, will likely go with Soma's bar. The tip on the Problem Solver is awesome. I live in the NW so this bike needs to stand up to the rain.

    Really appreciate the thoughtful input. I will post a pic of the bike once I've made a few more modifications. While I'm at it - any one have any really good light suggestions? I want to get something more substantial than the typical flashing white and red LEDs but don't want it to be super cumbersome or take away from the bike's overall set-up.

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    What type of internal gear hub?

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    Here is my recent build

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    Long time reader, first time poster...

    Hello!
    I love my 2013 salsa fargo 2, and I have come here over the last few years to get advice and guidance, so thanks everyone for posting!

    I recently moved back to colorado, and i do about 50/50 trail riding and dirt road exploring. For this i recently took off my stock conti race king tires, and updated to...

    Maxxiss minion DHF 2.5" on front
    Maxxiss minion SS 2.3" on rear

    So far I'm loving it. Has anyone else put minions on your fargo?

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    Just a quick update - bought the bike! Managed to lower the front fender and swapped out the saddle this weekend. Still on the hunt for a Soma (or similar) bar... considering also the Jones H bar but would really like a drop bar.

    Love it so far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John-Z View Post
    Just a quick update - bought the bike! Managed to lower the front fender and swapped out the saddle this weekend. Still on the hunt for a Soma (or similar) bar... considering also the Jones H bar but would really like a drop bar.

    Love it so far!

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    The Salsa page says the Firestarter fork steerer length is 30 cm. My 2015 Fargo (bought new) has only a 26cm steerer.

    Did the Fargo have a shorter steerer, or is it likely the LBS cut it?

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    my uncut '14 fork is over there leaning against the wall... the steerer measures 30cm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samwe View Post
    The Salsa page says the Firestarter fork steerer length is 30 cm. My 2015 Fargo (bought new) has only a 26cm steerer.

    Did the Fargo have a shorter steerer, or is it likely the LBS cut it?
    Salsa started cutting the forks and setting the star nuts right about that time and adjusted for frame size, usually leaving three spacers under the stem. I think the last Fargos we built at the shop where I work that had uncut steer tubes were '14 models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samwe View Post
    The Salsa page says the Firestarter fork steerer length is 30 cm. My 2015 Fargo (bought new) has only a 26cm steerer.

    Did the Fargo have a shorter steerer, or is it likely the LBS cut it?
    Generally, all forks sold separately from bikes come with a long enough steerer for several applications (like all sizes of Fargo). Most Fargo's forks (factory build) seem to have a longish steer left so the customer can decide how many spacers they want. I run one of my spacers on top (2013 Fargo) because I don't want to commit to a shorter steerer in case I decide later to raise the bar due to a back/shoulder/wrist problem.
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    Rainy ride

    Took a ride in the rain yesterday around the lake. Not a soul in sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moniemoe View Post
    I was wondering if anyone on here has an xsmall frame. I am 5'1 and considering a fargo for my dirt/trail touring but am concerned about such a small frame on 29er tires. An problems fitting a butt bag between the saddle and the rear tire? Are there any other shorties out there?
    The Salsa Fargo Thread-mg_5901-1024x683.jpg

    look like this rider decided to forego the frame bag and seat post bag in favor of a backpack. hard to tell from this pic whether a seat pack would clear the tire. i imagine there are frame bags that will squeeze into that triangle if you want to go with a camelbak and/or place the bottle underneath the downtime... or on the fork....

    the photo comes from this article....
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    Here's the Salsa Fargo in action this past weekend. Short overnight trip to a local brewery. 40km there, beer, overnight, 40km back made it a very simple but very nice weekend.

    My Fargo and my wife's Ogre.



    Fork bottle cage actually keep the bottles pretty clean.



    We stayed at a nice local hotel/chalet. How the wife likes it





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    Rad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciquta View Post
    You can't put fenders on stock models since 2014, when they added the alternator dropouts.
    No problems with older dropout.
    You can if you are creative or buy different plates.
    I have the replacement dropout plates with the extra eyelet, but for my wifes bike I am thinking about replacing the dropout pivot bolt with a stud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samwe View Post
    You can if you are creative or buy different plates.
    Definitely. There are also options like this:

    Flipper Rear

    or this:

    https://ridepdw.com/collections/fenders/products/origami-fenders

    I've used both, and they both do what a fender is supposed to do.

    The fact is, there are a variety of fender options available for Fargos, even those built after 2014. They may not all be a "traditional road/touring fender" but then again, the Fargo isn't a traditional road/touring bike, either.
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    The Salsa Fargo Thread

    Gravel / back roads in Michigan. Love this bike.



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    That 'Bomb Pop' blue is one of my favorite Fargo colors ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    That 'Bomb Pop' blue is one of my favorite Fargo colors ever.
    It's what sold me when I saw it online. The color is amazing and after riding it a couple years think it is the most comfortable bike I have ever had.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    That 'Bomb Pop' blue is one of my favorite Fargo colors ever.
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    Anyone have an idea of when the 2017 Fargo framesets will be available? I've gotten a myriad of answers from different shops. Just wondering if anyone here has an inside scoop, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    That 'Bomb Pop' blue is one of my favorite Fargo colors ever.
    Blue is my favorite color and this might be the best blue I've seen.
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    Hi,new to Mountain Bikes,and am looking at the Fargo,Jamis Dragonslayer,marin PM1 and the Krampus with the fargo as my #1 choice.As I am 6'4",I was concerned a bit with your comment regarding the Fargo reach possibly being too short.

    What I don't get is since the Fargo has drop bars that appear to extend way beyond where a mountain bike handlebar does,doesnt that effectively extend the reach?

    Am I missing something?

    Any input greatly appreciated



    Quote Originally Posted by Erik_A View Post
    Unless you want carbon; I would look at the new Salsa Timberjack 27.5+ in Medium (the defacto replacement for the steel El Mariachi). TIMBERJACK 27.5+ X1 | Bikes | Salsa Cycles Great deal for $1400; even if you decide to upgrade to drop-bars. In my opinion the Fargo's reach is way too short for someone with long arms.

    Med. Timberjack (27.5 +) = Reach: 430mm / Standover: 29.5"
    Med. Fargo (27.5 +) = Reach: 368mm / Standover: 30.6"

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    Quote Originally Posted by taowave View Post
    Hi,new to Mountain Bikes,and am looking at the Fargo,Jamis Dragonslayer,marin PM1 and the Krampus with the fargo as my #1 choice.As I am 6'4",I was concerned a bit with your comment regarding the Fargo reach possibly being too short.

    What I don't get is since the Fargo has drop bars that appear to extend way beyond where a mountain bike handlebar does,doesnt that effectively extend the reach?

    Am I missing something?

    Any input greatly appreciated
    The Fargo has a relatively short top tube to counter the increase in reach from the drop bar.
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    Taowave,

    I'm 6"4" and ride a 2015 XL. The reach is fine. Every time I get on, which is often, I fall in love again. I just can't believe how comfortable and fun my Fargo is.

    That being said, my Fargo is my gravel, touring/bikepacking and urban assault ride. It handles singletrack fine but is sketchy when things get steep and rocky. If "mountain biking" is your focus you may want to look for something with a suspension fork and riser bar.

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    Hi GM,
    Sounds like I will be riding the Fargo exactly as you do.I have ZERO interest in any biking activity with the word steep,rocky and bike, or just rocky/bike in the same sentence

    I would like the ability to hit light trails,but that's where it begins an ends

    thanks!


    Quote Originally Posted by GreenMason View Post
    Taowave,

    I'm 6"4" and ride a 2015 XL. The reach is fine. Every time I get on, which is often, I fall in love again. I just can't believe how comfortable and fun my Fargo is.

    That being said, my Fargo is my gravel, touring/bikepacking and urban assault ride. It handles singletrack fine but is sketchy when things get steep and rocky. If "mountain biking" is your focus you may want to look for something with a suspension fork and riser bar.

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