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    Thanks for the compliment FTMN (Brandon?). After straddling your bike and Cippolini (Paul's) XL, realized the L was right for me.

    How do you like the Thudbuster? Have been seriously considering one. My first big ride on the Fargo was on the Luce Line. Nice photos and really nice looking build.

    richmotion - sorry I can't help. Am 6' and straddled an XXL and test rode and XL before deciding on the L. The stock build suits me fine. The reach seems good. A touch shorter than my pure road bike. It seems to handle just fine, though. In fact, with the slacker head tube angle, maybe it handles better than a road bike with a short stem. That's just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P.
    Ted - if you are at Sol Sessions, I'm totally jealous. At one point thought about it, but family obligations got in the way.

    Haven't ridden up there since '91 or so. Nothing left of what I used to ride, or so I hear. Want to see what happened.
    I was scheduled to go, but when I realized it was father's day weekend, (Doh!) I turned the truck southwards after the Adventure Ride and headed home instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P.
    How do you like the Thudbuster?
    I like it a lot! For a seatpost it's expensive (to me), but well worth it. I used to get a fair amount of lower back soreness, but I rarely do now that I've started using Thudbusters. I've had a LT (long travel) version on my hardtail mtb for a few years, and I'll never own a hardtail mountain bike without one. On singletrack it's made a big difference in comfort for me.

    This is my first ST (short travel) version and I'm liking it so far. I can see that it might be overkill for the terrain I'll most often ride on this bike, but if it helps keep me comfortable for a little longer during rides, it is worth it.

    If you get lower back pain after/during rides (and it isn't due to bike fit), it might be a good investment.

    Hope that helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by curriergroh
    I would request longer lashing straps on the handlebar harness if ordering again. Because of the need to fit between the drops the 'package' is shorter and fatter than is usual on a flat bar bike. We are maxing out the length to get around the dry bag as it is now.
    Anyone else have any feedback on using the Revelate (Epic) handlebar harness with woodchipper bars? Seems like a great concept, but just looking for confirmation on suitability for dirt drop bars.

    Or news on the Salsa Front rack?
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    Hello all. I just received my Fargo XT "in the mail" yesterday. It is sweet. I am looking forward to getting it built up and on the trails. I bought the XT on clearance from Bikeman - it was the last one they had. Seemed like a good price too :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P.
    Ted - if you are at Sol Sessions, I'm totally jealous. At one point thought about it, but family obligations got in the way.

    Haven't ridden up there since '91 or so. Nothing left of what I used to ride, or so I hear. Want to see what happened.
    Oops! Figured out where you were. Pretty close to me, actually. Didn't know about that ride or I might have joined.

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    Nice. And the blog was...hilarious. When I get up there and never leave, and am constantly around bugging you - then you will think differently. It would be nice to ride around with another Fargo <sigh>.
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    any XT builds left in stock? and what size for 6'4"?

    i can't find any at any local shops, and i'm not having much luck finding any online. anyone know of any online shops that have any XT builds left in stock? maybe on closeout?

    i'm not even sure what size i would need, as i'm not able to find one to test ride. i'm 6'4" with 36" inseam, and long orangutan arms, so i'm guessing XL (22")? i tend to prefer smaller frames because they make me feel more secure, so i'd even lean towards a L (20"), unless anyone here about my size convinces me otherwise?

    thanks for any help!

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    A few shots from TransWisconsin last week. IMHO, the Fargo was the right bike for this event. This event really made me want Salsa to hurry up with those new racks, and I'm going to likely make an investment in some stuff from Relevate Deisgns too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodpost
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    i'm not even sure what size i would need, as i'm not able to find one to test ride. i'm 6'4" with 36" inseam, and long orangutan arms, so i'm guessing XL (22")? i tend to prefer smaller frames because they make me feel more secure, so i'd even lean towards a L (20"), unless anyone here about my size convinces me otherwise?

    thanks for any help!
    I'm about your size (192 cm / 91 cm) with similar proportions and ride an XXL. XL would also be fine, but there is no way I would choose size L. The standover is fine on the XXL, so the only significant difference is that the XXL has a 1 cm longer top tube and 1 cm taller head tube that the XL. I do use a shorter stem than than Salsa uses on the full bike.

    The pictures below show a little about my riding position. Maybe that will help a little.





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    Quote Originally Posted by woodpost
    i can't find any at any local shops, and i'm not having much luck finding any online. anyone know of any online shops that have any XT builds left in stock? maybe on closeout?

    i'm not even sure what size i would need, as i'm not able to find one to test ride. i'm 6'4" with 36" inseam, and long orangutan arms, so i'm guessing XL (22")? i tend to prefer smaller frames because they make me feel more secure, so i'd even lean towards a L (20"), unless anyone here about my size convinces me otherwise?

    thanks for any help!
    Try Taylors Bike shop online I think they had an XL in XT. I got my XT build from Universal Cycles back in April. I don't know if they have any left or not.

    Good Luck, it's a great bike!

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    How did you guys miss this?

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    I built up a bare frame/fork so i have no idea about that wheel, but I went with WTB laserdisc trail 29er wheel. The rims are not the lightest or most bling but they are wide and very durable. These wheels seem to offer a lot of bang for the buck.

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    I am having a blast riding the Fargo although I am looking forward to taking up to the cabin in a couple of weeks to do some fire trail riding (unlimited trail riding up in the Sierras). I have some questions about what setup I should look at for outfitting the bike.

    I ordered some Cascadia fenders from Tree Fort Bikes. Th efew rides I have done (like on Catalina Island) we REALLY dusty so I hope the fenders will reduce the amount of dust I inhale.

    I mostly want to do road and trail touring. Mostly day trips but I would like to overnight at some campgrounds around the Sierras that are 10-20 miles out. I may have to wait a year until the kids (8 & 10) can muster it but they are well on their way. I have an older Jannd rear rack and Blackburn rear rack sitting around from touring I did years ago. The Jannd is wider and heavier duty.

    So, what recommendations would you have for mostly day tail rides with occasional overnight trail riding to campgrounds with the kids.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuyGadois
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    I mostly want to do road and trail touring. Mostly day trips but I would like to overnight at some campgrounds around the Sierras that are 10-20 miles out. I may have to wait a year until the kids (8 & 10) can muster it but they are well on their way. I have an older Jannd rear rack and Blackburn rear rack sitting around from touring I did years ago. The Jannd is wider and heavier duty.

    So, what recommendations would you have for mostly day tail rides with occasional overnight trail riding to campgrounds with the kids.

    Cheers!

    Guy
    I'm using the Blackburn EX2 rear rack with success. It is not horribly heavy (580g) and puts the weight a lot lower than a seat pack would. The Cascadia Fenders fit well and the rack is wide enough for the widest tire that fits the Fargo. I also have a large frame bag and I will get the new lightweight front rack from Salsa as soon as it becomes available.
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    Great ride today

    One of those days your glad to be alive and on your bike....especially the Fargo

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    woodpost - i'm 6'4" and ride the XL. I think the L would be too small for me but I wouldn't want to go to the XXL. The XL feels big (and my other bike is a 22" Pugsley).

    My $0.02.

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    I'm 6'4" (long torso, short legs), and ride an XXL with a 130 mm stem with no complaints. I use it for the road a little more than trail riding.

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    Wow some sweet rigs here. Got an email from someone suggesting I post this new Coconino Cycles touring rig on this thread (same genre they said). So here ya go. HT 70.5', ST 72', S/O 32.75", TT 24.5" (reflects my body), 44mm fork rake (fork by Vulture Cycles), 65mm drop. Fits an endomorph up front and up to 3" meats in back. Paragon sliders for versatility. Those are 2.55 WTB WWs on KH 47mm rims. Craftsmanship on this frame is stunning, as are fit and ride. - Taylor




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    Wow! If a Pugsley and a Fargo had a kid, it would be your Coconino.
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    Very, very nice. Impressed with the bike. Yeah, it does have a "Fargo Family" look to it.

    Gotta ask - are the bosses under the top tube for a Morph pump mount? Or is there some other reason for them?

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    Any one know if the wierwolf LT 2.55 - pictured above mounted to wider than average 27mm rims will fit in the Fargo sans fenders. I am constantly trying different WTB tires since there nice and there employee purchase program is so generously discounted. Right now I keep switching tires, pathway flat guard 38c's for commuting and city riding with some graveled paths. Then when I know i am going to be riding single track I put on some 1.9" knobbys.

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    The OP mentioned on the 29"er forum that he had 4 water bottle mounts. I'm guessing that top tube mounts the fourth bottle.

    To the O.P.: I love Steve Garro's work, and this is a sweet rig. I have to wonder though- do you have some lower rack mount braze ons? Why go with the Old Man Mountains when you have a custom builder that could weld on some rack braze ons on the lower regions of the frame/fork and use something more traditional for rack mounting.

    It seems that the racks you have just complicate wheel removal

    The saddle you are using didn't work for me and a few others around here that tried them. They are wonderfully comfortable, but the rails were bending on all of ours like butter. Hope yours works out for ya.

    Again, beautiful rig, and I hope your adventures are all fantastic, memorable, and safe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric P.
    Very, very nice. Impressed with the bike. Yeah, it does have a "Fargo Family" look to it.

    Gotta ask - are the bosses under the top tube for a Morph pump mount? Or is there some other reason for them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerjay
    Any one know if the wierwolf LT 2.55 - pictured above mounted to wider than average 27mm rims will fit in the Fargo sans fenders. I am constantly trying different WTB tires since there nice and there employee purchase program is so generously discounted. Right now I keep switching tires, pathway flat guard 38c's for commuting and city riding with some graveled paths. Then when I know i am going to be riding single track I put on some 1.9" knobbys.
    Should be no problem. I have a Gordo (35mm) with a LT 2.55 on the front of my Fargo and it fits fine. Haven't tried it on the back, but I have tried a RR 2.4 on the back with a Delgado Race 29er rim (25mm) and there was still a bit of room.

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    GT - Thanks for your well wishes and your always-thoughtful posts. And yes, GT and Eric P - the TT bosses are for a fourth water bottle.

    The OMM CS was sort of a two part coincidence. First--I just really liked the cold spring rack--how wide it is and the one piece aluminum top plate design. I like its sturdy build, its width, its load capacity and, admittedly, its utilitarian look. Second--my last rig's lower (weight bearing) eyelets were always coming loose. I felt like I spent my life oscillating between either tightening them or listening to them rattle. This axle mount design solved that, and I think (but have no evidence to substantiate it) that it may be a little better suited to handling heavy loads. It seems way more stout. I agree that it does make removing the wheel a bit cumbersome, but, in my particular circumstance--being able access rides, tours, groceries and all from home--removing the wheel is something I rarely do. So, for me, it's not a big deal.

    Sounds like I may have gotten lucky on the Sella. I'm going on three or four years on that one--some of those car-free years with lots of miles--with no problem with the rails bending. But it sounds to me like they may need to work on the consistency of their rail quality. It is the most comfortable saddle I've ever used.

    All the best -

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    Thanks for the explanation. Fair enough!

    You know what though, and this is something a lot of us would like to see, I'm sure, but we need some higher end, nicer looking, better performing mechanical disc brakes. Those Avids are getting long in the tooth. I just find it sort of ironic that a custom bike, a beautiful bike like yours, has to go with those brakes as the best mech brakes out there.

    That or some dang hydro drop levers already!


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    Quote Originally Posted by pierre meux
    GT - Thanks for your well wishes and your always-thoughtful posts. And yes, GT and Eric P - the TT bosses are for a fourth water bottle.

    The OMM CS was sort of a two part coincidence. First--I just really liked the cold spring rack--how wide it is and the one piece aluminum top plate design. I like its sturdy build, its width, its load capacity and, admittedly, its utilitarian look. Second--my last rig's lower (weight bearing) eyelets were always coming loose. I felt like I spent my life oscillating between either tightening them or listening to them rattle. This axle mount design solved that, and I think (but have no evidence to substantiate it) that it may be a little better suited to handling heavy loads. It seems way more stout. I agree that it does make removing the wheel a bit cumbersome, but, in my particular circumstance--being able access rides, tours, groceries and all from home--removing the wheel is something I rarely do. So, for me, it's not a big deal.

    Sounds like I may have gotten lucky on the Sella. I'm going on three or four years on that one--some of those car-free years with lots of miles--with no problem with the rails bending. But it sounds to me like they may need to work on the consistency of their rail quality. It is the most comfortable saddle I've ever used.

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    I keep hoping AVID will realize that the BB7 is a sought after part and make an ultimate version. I see an awful of bikes with BB7s that have swapped the roundagon rotor for something nicer. I have BB7s on my fargo and on another bike. Oddly enough the fargo has the mtb/long pull version with tektro long pull drop levers and my flat bar mtb has the road/short pull version with old cantilever era ultimate levers. The red ultimate levers with sealed bearing pivots are as nice as any thing out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted

    You know what though, and this is something a lot of us would like to see, I'm sure, but we need some higher end, nicer looking, better performing mechanical disc brakes. Those Avids are getting long in the tooth. I just find it sort of ironic that a custom bike, a beautiful bike like yours, has to go with those brakes as the best mech brakes out there.

    That or some dang hydro drop levers already!


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    Here, here! I am fond of the BB7's and just built a La Cruz frame with a new set - they work very well with SRAM's Rival levers...but while putting it together I was thinking the same thing GT, why aren't there better options OR hydraulic levers for drop bars. With all the other stuff coming available, this seems like a no brainer. Maybe after all this shifting stuff hits, someone will look at stoppers.
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    Are you guys saying this about the brakes because there is some perceived deficiency with the BB7s, or just because you'd like something newer and shinier?!?

    I for one am pleased there are no hydraulic road levers as I've had much more trouble with hydro brakes; if some ba$tard offers levers, I'm worried that none of the frame/bike builders will bother to make their products so cable disc callipers will fit. I can see that hydro discs might be good for the back of road tandems though.

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    I have absolutely no problem with the BB7 but I am sure that AVID/Sram could improve upon it. Just look at the difference between SD7 levers and ultimate levers. It would also be great to be able to buy BB7s with good rotors instead of those infernal roundagon rotors. And having overhauled a few bb7 calipers it would be cool to see a better seal and tighter tolerances. Easier to turn ergonomic adjuster knobs that dont fall off would be great. The old type turned easier but the plastic knobs fell off. The new ones are hard to turn but at least they dont fall off. Top loading pads could also be a nice touch.

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    I keep worrying Avid is going to try and "improve" the BB7 and wind up screwing them up! And then one of my favorite bike parts will be lost. If aint broke, don't fix it.

    @bikerjay: the newer style do allow you to use a torx bit to turn the inner knob, which makes them much easier to turn. Never had a problem with the outer knob, since it is easier to access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renegade44
    I keep worrying Avid is going to try and "improve" the BB7 and wind up screwing them up! And then one of my favorite bike parts will be lost. If aint broke, don't fix it.

    @bikerjay: the newer style do allow you to use a torx bit to turn the inner knob, which makes them much easier to turn. Never had a problem with the outer knob, since it is easier to access.
    another tip: I use some graphite spray http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...aphite5200.php
    on all sorts of parts
    makes cables super smooth

    and of course, when you replace pads on your BB7's, turn the adjusters in, to expose the threads inside the caliper and apply graphite spray, work it back and forth...

    its a no brainer...

    honestly...

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    Just looking for improvements....BB7's work well but there can be some improvement. A good set of hydraulics has what one friend of mine described as a "digital" feel to them and I agree. I have a few sets of hydraulic brakes on several other bikes and i like 'em.

    I have BB7's on two bikes as well and like them but maybe there are some things that could be done better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocho
    Just looking for improvements....BB7's work well but there can be some improvement. A good set of hydraulics has what one friend of mine described as a "digital" feel to them and I agree. I have a few sets of hydraulic brakes on several other bikes and i like 'em.

    I have BB7's on two bikes as well and like them but maybe there are some things that could be done better.
    My point exactly.

    I love BB-7's. I've had every version they've made and I've been a fan since 2003.


    Read that year carefully..........2003!

    You mean to tell me that SRAM can't make these any better?

    In seven years?

    I don't buy that for a minute, and in fact, I happen to know that they can and have done a better version. They won't make it because SRAM doesn't see fit to subsidize the project within the company. (As told to me by the head honcho brake guy at SRAM who shall remain nameless. )

    Yes, I am with all of you who say "don't fix what ain't broke", but I also yearn for an improvement that is sitting "in draft" at SRAM. I know that if it works better, is lighter, and is reasonably priced, we'd all fall over ourselves and buy them.

    Right? I think I am correct in thinking that.

    Give me the "Avid Mechanical Ultimate Black Box Boo-Yah 10" and make the BB-7 and BB-5 as is in addition.

    That's what I'm talkin' about here!
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    If the past few decades are any indication, we'll eventually get all of it. Good hydraulic levers for road bars, improved mechanical discs, less noise, and probably a few things we haven't thought of. I'm no big fan of Sram, but it's not surprising they have been tight fisted in the new product department recently. They seem to be focused on drivetrain parts these days. The improved Avid disc you describe, GT, is very interesting of course. Someone will make and sell it at some point. It might say Tektro on it or something.

    I've been using hydraulic discs since '02 and have had zero problems, not even much noise, but I've only used Shimano hydros. I like the BB7s on my Fargo just fine, much more than my limited experience with BB5s. Either brake responds well to some extra time and attention in getting the set up just right. Some of what's necessary for that is not obvious or intuitive. Practice, practice.

    Speaking of things taking a long time, ten years ago I daydreamed of a big finned aluminum coaster brake hub that actually worked well and didn't fry itself in short order. Still waiting for that to appear.
    29ers are just a fad, like disc brakes, suspension, indexed shifting and mountain bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerjay
    Top loading pads could also be a nice touch.
    Ab-so-F-ing-lutely.

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    How many of you guys have used your Fargos for fully loaded road touring?
    Say front & rear panniers and about 60lbs of load...

    I know that it's not what this bike was designed for but I'd like to have that option if I happen to buy Fargo.

    http://www.adventurecycling.org/foru...p?topic=6948.0
    This thread (don't like the style of posting either) reports 2 loaded bikes shimming violently to the point of not being ridable. Probably just a manufacturing defect but please share you experience.


    So ... how many of you guys have tried full front/rear load and some miles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by -5150-
    How many of you guys have used your Fargos for fully loaded road touring?
    Say front & rear panniers and about 60lbs of load...

    I know that it's not what this bike was designed for but I'd like to have that option if I happen to buy Fargo.

    http://www.adventurecycling.org/foru...p?topic=6948.0
    This thread (don't like the style of posting either) reports 2 loaded bikes shimming violently to the point of not being ridable. Probably just a manufacturing defect but please share you experience.


    So ... how many of you guys have tried full front/rear load and some miles?
    I have done fully loaded touring with the fargo......paved and gravel. Not sure I carried 60 pounds worth of gear though. I try to front load as much as possible. When I do that I have no issues.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/doug_goodenough/3952442173/" title="Oregon Bicycle Tour - Day 4 by Doug in Idaho, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2452/3952442173_d51ec576da_b.jpg" width="1024" height="810" alt="Oregon Bicycle Tour - Day 4"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/doug_goodenough/3950975735/" title="Oregon Bicycle Tour - Day 2 by Doug in Idaho, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/3950975735_d353cbb261_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="Oregon Bicycle Tour - Day 2"></a>

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    Rode my first century yesterday (July 10). Used the Fargo. It was all paved roads. Figured the wide tires and Woodchippers would be good for this ride. Averaged 13.9mph. Am happy to have finally gotten that done. Been on my list of things "to do" since getting back on the bike a few years ago.

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    Besides a flat, only issue was a bee/wasp/deer fly which flew up my shorts and sting my right leg. Luckily had some tights on underneath or it could have turned out worse.

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    Doug,
    Thats what I'm talking about, sweet setup you have there... have seen your bike before, well thought out
    I'm shooting for XL though and wonder how different HA and fork rake affect handling with front load.
    Any XL or XXL loaded rigs to share?

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    Read that thread. Haven't had the Fargo loaded up that much. But no shimmy at all with no or less than five pounds on the front. Doing my century yesterday probably did 2 miles total no handed. My Salsa handled it fine.

    A guess is it could be related to frame size. The rake and trail change as the sizes change. So one size that handles well with a front load might not on a different load. Jan Heine has gone in to exhaustive detail on this in Bicycle Quarterly.

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    Joined the Salsa Fargo movement about a month ago, and here's my contribution to the photo collection in this thread...

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    Some great Fargo builds here! I'm looking to join the rank of Fargo owners soon and I noticed that there's a lot of S.T. Thudbuster equipped Fargos. Why not the L.T. version? It's the same price and the weight isn't that much different. Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG410
    Some great Fargo builds here! I'm looking to join the rank of Fargo owners soon and I noticed that there's a lot of S.T. Thudbuster equipped Fargos. Why not the L.T. version? It's the same price and the weight isn't that much different. Just curious.
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    I want one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can't Afford One !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    so I just bought the Woodchippers and 8 Sp Ultegra Barcons and some linear pull Tekros and made a Schwinn Impact Pro Wanna Be.

    Yesterday was the Maiden Voyage and 4 Miles of rode and 6 Miles of some twisty trails in Banner Forest Port Orchard Washington.

    I Never realized how much fun this could be with the drop bars. I can't wait to do some overnighters in the mountains.

    THanks for all your comments I read the whole thing and learned alot.

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    Fargos on the GDR

    I just read the post about the shimmy in the fork and saw the question on this thread about it as well. We are carrying sixty pounds of gear but it is split between two bikes. Either way no shimmy for us after 1200 miles. We are currently in Pinedale Wyoming getting in some time with the Internets. And now some Fargo vacation pics.

    Day 1 leaving Canmore, rather than Banff, Whiteman's Pass
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/4qn6iiUM7ePeRP0MlWef9Q?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_YKc3OXfJ0OU/TCfhT2RDtcI/AAAAAAAAAWk/G4kJK7VDdrM/s400/P1010618.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/curriergroh/Honeymoon2GreatDivideRoute?feat=embedwebsite">Hone ymoon #2 - Great Divide Route</a></td></tr></table>
    Baynes Lake
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3UVKdBL1zjwwGwW7zwNrCA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_YKc3OXfJ0OU/TCflNy3656I/AAAAAAAAAXw/-aZIvX4O-TE/s400/P1010742.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/curriergroh/Honeymoon2GreatDivideRoute?feat=embedwebsite">Hone ymoon #2 - Great Divide Route</a></td></tr></table>
    Fargos on the town in Whitefish, Montana
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    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Rq0Ti_WnvjCiLdlTcxq_aA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_YKc3OXfJ0OU/TDjmKyQ_13I/AAAAAAAAAc4/bhMKYKOmqC8/s400/P1020209.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/curriergroh/Honeymoon2GreatDivideRoute?feat=embedwebsite">Hone ymoon #2 - Great Divide Route</a></td></tr></table>

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommignon
    I want one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I can't Afford One !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    so I just bought the Woodchippers and 8 Sp Ultegra Barcons and some linear pull Tekros and made a Schwinn Impact Pro Wanna Be.

    Yesterday was the Maiden Voyage and 4 Miles of rode and 6 Miles of some twisty trails in Banner Forest Port Orchard Washington.

    I Never realized how much fun this could be with the drop bars. I can't wait to do some overnighters in the mountains.

    THanks for all your comments I read the whole thing and learned alot.

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    Outsider, I see you are using STI shifters, probably 9spd. How did you do this? Are all 9spd STI shifters compatible with the factory build? I am considering to buy the SLX build, but I am not sure I will like the default bar-end shifters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvrdberger
    Outsider, I see you are using STI shifters, probably 9spd. How did you do this? Are all 9spd STI shifters compatible with the factory build? I am considering to buy the SLX build, but I am not sure I will like the default bar-end shifters...
    Yes, I'm using the Tiagra 9 speed STI shifters. I don't think I would be satisfied with barend shifters for my terrain. I got the frame only and built the bike with stuff I mostly had. I have an XT rear derailleur and a ancient Deore front derailleur. I use two rings in the front (currently 26/36) and the shifting works great. There is one compatibility issue to be aware of between the road STI shifters and the mtb front derailleur: The road STI shifter pulls different amount of cable for the front derailleur and therefore 3 rings won't work without some tricks. I've read that some older road front derailleurs might work with 3 mtb rings, but nothing more specific. For my terrain (and I do ride technical singetrack as well) the current setup works very well, but for places where there are long road descents the 36t ring would probably be too small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG410
    Some great Fargo builds here! I'm looking to join the rank of Fargo owners soon and I noticed that there's a lot of S.T. Thudbuster equipped Fargos. Why not the L.T. version? It's the same price and the weight isn't that much different. Just curious.
    I have the LT version on my Fargo and like it. The ST version would not be smooth enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsider
    Yes, I'm using the Tiagra 9 speed STI shifters. I don't think I would be satisfied with barend shifters for my terrain. I got the frame only and built the bike with stuff I mostly had. I have an XT rear derailleur and a ancient Deore front derailleur. I use two rings in the front (currently 26/36) and the shifting works great. There is one compatibility issue to be aware of between the road STI shifters and the mtb front derailleur: The road STI shifter pulls different amount of cable for the front derailleur and therefore 3 rings won't work without some tricks. I've read that some older road front derailleurs might work with 3 mtb rings, but nothing more specific. For my terrain (and I do ride technical singetrack as well) the current setup works very well, but for places where there are long road descents the 36t ring would probably be too small.
    I think the factory XT build has been terminated from Salsa, but I assume 9 speed road STI shifters would be compatible with mountain SLX rear deraileurs too, right?

    How may the 3 speed front SLX derailleur (factory SLX build) be tweeked to function with a 3 speed STI shifter for tripple chainrings? Has anyone done this? Please also upload photos of this tweek. Did a search in the forum but couldn't find anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvrdberger
    I think the factory XT build has been terminated from Salsa, but I assume 9 speed road STI shifters would be compatible with mountain SLX rear deraileurs too, right?
    ...
    Yes, the rear derailleur is no problem as long as both are 9-speed.

    ..
    How may the 3 speed front SLX derailleur (factory SLX build) be tweeked to function with a 3 speed STI shifter for tripple chainrings? Has anyone done this? Please also upload photos of this tweek. Did a search in the forum but couldn't find anything.
    I've seen a couple of pictures of such modifications, but I could not find anything now. It involved moving the wire more inwards (towards the seat tube) in order to make the wire move the derailleur more (a shorter lever).
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    STI shifters on the Fargo

    Ok, thanks for the information, Outsider.

    Appreciate if anyone would explain in detail, maybe with close photos, how I may mount a left Tiagra STI shifter (3 speed) in order to control the front Deore derailleur for the triple chainrings? (Actually, the Fargo factory SLX build has a Shimano Deore bottom-pull 3-speed front derailleur.) How is the wire connected to the derailleur? Is it easily done, or do I need extra derailleur accessories?
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    My tandem has Tiagra STI and LX rear with Tiagra front and works. I would try it and if it needs changing get the Tiagra front derailer they are the least expensive of the parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommignon
    My tandem has Tiagra STI and LX rear with Tiagra front and works. I would try it and if it needs changing get the Tiagra front derailer they are the least expensive of the parts.
    Do you use a "mountain" chain or a road-based chain like Tiagra?

    The SLX build chain is a 9-speed Shimano CN-HG53, and I'm wondering if it would be too wide for a Tiagra front derailleur. (In case I will need to change the front derailleur when using Tiagra STI shifters.)

    Also, mountain-based cranksets and chainrings may require a longer derailleur travel. Does anyone know whether the Tiagra 3-speed front derailler travels far enough for the Deore triple chainrings on the Fargo?
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    I am sure it does not travel far enough. Road cranks use a 45mm chain line where as mtb are 50mm. It probably swings in just enough but out enough. Also Shimano lists using STI road controls with MTB derailers as B list compatible. I would keep the SLX front derailer unless its proven not to work well. B list means it works and that shimano engineers have found a one or more minor performance losses compared to parts that were designed together. The other issue with putting STI on the stock build is the brakes. STI levers are short pull vs the longpull avid bb7 it comes with. You would need to swap to BB7 road calipers that are made for short pull levers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerjay
    The other issue with putting STI on the stock build is the brakes. STI levers are short pull vs the longpull avid bb7 it comes with. You would need to swap to BB7 road calipers that are made for short pull levers.
    The SLX build comes with BB5s, so some Road BB7s for use with the STIs would be a good upgrade anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerjay
    I am sure it does not travel far enough. Road cranks use a 45mm chain line where as mtb are 50mm. It probably swings in just enough but out enough. Also Shimano lists using STI road controls with MTB derailers as B list compatible. I would keep the SLX front derailer unless its proven not to work well. B list means it works and that shimano engineers have found a one or more minor performance losses compared to parts that were designed together. The other issue with putting STI on the stock build is the brakes. STI levers are short pull vs the longpull avid bb7 it comes with. You would need to swap to BB7 road calipers that are made for short pull levers.
    Thanks!

    I am not an expert, would I need to buy a complete new set of brakes, then? E.g. I see these ones at Universalcycles.com.
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    another one!

    not new, but new to me....
    was a build-up from another local rider....only thing I've changed was to swap over the Midge bars from another bike of mine, and rear tire change...

    running XT rear mech, 1x8 with Ultegra bar-end shifters, XTR front mech, BB7 mtb brakes, Semi rims on XT hubs
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    WTB WeirWolf LT 29er + Fargo = ?

    Does anyone know if there is enough tire clearance for WTB WeirWolfs on the Fargo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outsider
    Are those road BB7 calipers you are using with your Tiagra STI shifters, Outsider? What kind of rotors?

    And, by the way, are those Nokian Extreme 294 29x2.1 studded tires?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvrdberger
    Does anyone know if there is enough tire clearance for WTB WeirWolfs on the Fargo?
    yes.....rear will clear a Weirwolf 2.5 mounted on a Salsa Semi rim
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvrdberger
    Are those road BB7 calipers you are using with your Tiagra STI shifters, Outsider? What kind of rotors?

    And, by the way, are those Nokian Extreme 294 29x2.1 studded tires?
    Those are actually the BB5 Road disc brakes with G2 CleanSweep rotors. Avid does not say that the BB5 is compatible with these rotors, but I have not noticed any problems. The BB5 Road works well in my opinion. The touch is quite nice and they are easy to adjust.

    Yes, those are the Extreme 294 29x2.1 studded tires. I have two pairs of them, but I still hope for more alternatives. The grip on ice is not great, they are too narrow and they roll quite poorly. Too few studs in my opinion.
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    My Drop Bar Mountain Bike or Fargo Lite

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    I have 2 sets of wheels and Mountain Bike Tires on one and Road Bike Tires on the Other

    THis is a great way to go into the woods and have a great time.

    These are pictures near Bumping Lake Washington. I road about 50 miles this last week during a church camp out.
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    Actually, pics were requested earlier in the thread

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    Yep. Don't care if it's a Fargo or 700c or what. Love the spirit of the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerjay
    The other issue with putting STI on the stock build is the brakes. STI levers are short pull vs the longpull avid bb7 it comes with. You would need to swap to BB7 road calipers that are made for short pull levers.
    The Fargo SLX Build comes with BB5 Mountain brakes with 160 mm 6-bolt rotors. Are these rotors compatible with BB7 Road brakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikerjay
    I am sure it does not travel far enough. Road cranks use a 45mm chain line where as mtb are 50mm. It probably swings in just enough but out enough. Also Shimano lists using STI road controls with MTB derailers as B list compatible. I would keep the SLX front derailer unless its proven not to work well. B list means it works and that shimano engineers have found a one or more minor performance losses compared to parts that were designed together.
    I will try to tweak the Deore front derailleur on the Fargo SLX Build, to work with Tiagra STI shifters. I think I will need to adjust to a shorter "caliper"-like arm on the derailleur to work with short-pull STI shifter. Has anyone done this?
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    Here is my Fargo I built up a few months ago. Honestly, one of the most useful bike I have ever owned, while still maintaining funabilities. Everything from commuting everywhere to singletrack.

    I ran some road levers on my bb7 mtbs it when I first built it up, they worked just fine, but one of them was bent so I had to have it adjusted out a little far. The long pull levers helped that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprintcarblue

    Here is my Fargo I built up a few months ago. Honestly, one of the most useful bike I have ever owned, while still maintaining funabilities. Everything from commuting everywhere to singletrack.

    I ran some road levers on my bb7 mtbs it when I first built it up, they worked just fine, but one of them was bent so I had to have it adjusted out a little far. The long pull levers helped that out.
    You are the 2nd person to put your shift levers "sideways". Did you do that just to avoid possible dings on the top tube? I keep meaning to wrap the top tube on my Fargo where I might end up gouging in a crash.

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    Hey, I thought some of you might enjoy a comparison I did between my Salsa Fargo and my Singular Cycles Gryphon, which as you may know, are two similarly designed rigs. Here's the link to Twenty Nine Inches; http://twentynineinches.com/2010/08/...ycles-gryphon/
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    When I first put the shifter on, I felt like I was constantly hitting it on things (top tube included) and I saw one on sideways and decided to give it a try. I really liked how it shifted and it stopped hitting stuff and cleared my top tube. Although, I noticed yesterday on really steep inclines where I am standing pedaling and turning, that my knee can hit the shifter which doesn't work out well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprintcarblue
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    When I first put the shifter on, I felt like I was constantly hitting it on things (top tube included) and I saw one on sideways and decided to give it a try. I really liked how it shifted and it stopped hitting stuff and cleared my top tube. Although, I noticed yesterday on really steep inclines where I am standing pedaling and turning, that my knee can hit the shifter which doesn't work out well.
    What kind of bars you running? I have the woodchippers and they are plenty wide so my knees never come close to my sideways shifters. Another advantage of running them this way I think is less chance of damage to the shifter in wreck or tipover situations.

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    Mine are the wide woodchippers as well...I think it was kind of an anomaly as I was going up a really steep incline, turning, and trying to monster trucker over some fallen trees and my knee/thigh hit the shifter and it stopped me. If I would have had more speed I don't think it would have been a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprintcarblue
    Mine are the wide woodchippers as well...I think it was kind of an anomaly as I was going up a really steep incline, turning, and trying to monster trucker over some fallen trees and my knee/thigh hit the shifter and it stopped me. If I would have had more speed I don't think it would have been a problem.
    Ah, that never happens to me as I am 95% a gravel grinder....roots, rocks....what are those. Sometimes I have to maneuver around a pothole though

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    Guitar Ted,
    We need a forum for the Drop Bar Mountain Bike or Gravel Grinders or Mountain Touring. The Fat Bikes have there forum and there is obviously enough interest.

    Maybe you know who to contact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommignon
    Guitar Ted,
    We need a forum for the Drop Bar Mountain Bike or Gravel Grinders or Mountain Touring. The Fat Bikes have there forum and there is obviously enough interest.

    Maybe you know who to contact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_ID
    Ah, that never happens to me as I am 95% a gravel grinder....roots, rocks....what are those. Sometimes I have to maneuver around a pothole though
    I guess that is my usual riding as well...however I found some really fun single track not to far from where I am staying in Minneapolis this summer. I figured I would give it a whirl!

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    A hypothetical Fargo build for my girl . . .

    Hi Everyone,

    My first post - Woo Hoo!

    After much reading and checking out a large Fargo at the shop i've decided to build a fargo up fro my partner to go alongside my el Mariachi. I'm hoping to build a small 2010 fargo and have a list of possible parts and am hoping for some input.

    I guess i'm mainly after confirmation that they will all fit and work together.

    So here we go...

    • Fargo 2010 frameset small 16"
    • Seatpost Clamp Salsa 27.2mm
    • Cane creek S3 Headset 1.1/8"
    • Thomson Elite X4 MTB Stem 90mm 10 Deg 1.1/8" 31.8
    • Shimano SLX Chainset Double M665 170mm 22.36
    • Shimano HG93 Chain 9 Speed
    • Shimano Saint/SLX Cassette 9 Speed HG80 11.32
    • Shimano FD-M970 XTR Front Mech F-Type Top Swing
    • Shimano XTR Rear Derailleur Rapid Rise M970 GS Medium Cage
    • Shimano XTR STI Brake & Shifter Combo M970
    • Titec J-Bar 31.8
    • Avid BB7 Mountain, 160mm Rotor, 6-Bolt
    • Cane Creek Thudbuster ST Seatpost 27.2mm 396mm
    • Brooks England B17 STD Steel Ladies
    • Schwalbe Racing Ralph EVO Snakeskin 2.25
    • Velocity P-35 Rims


    Any insight and thoughts?

    Cheers,

    Sean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuldfasche
    Hi Everyone,

    My first post - Woo Hoo!

    After much reading and checking out a large Fargo at the shop i've decided to build a fargo up fro my partner to go alongside my el Mariachi. I'm hoping to build a small 2010 fargo and have a list of possible parts and am hoping for some input.

    I guess i'm mainly after confirmation that they will all fit and work together.

    So here we go...
    • Fargo 2010 frameset small 16"
    • Seatpost Clamp Salsa 27.2mm
    • Cane creek S3 Headset 1.1/8"
    • Thomson Elite X4 MTB Stem 90mm 10 Deg 1.1/8" 31.8
    • Shimano SLX Chainset Double M665 170mm 22.36
    • Shimano HG93 Chain 9 Speed
    • Shimano Saint/SLX Cassette 9 Speed HG80 11.32
    • Shimano FD-M970 XTR Front Mech F-Type Top Swing
    • Shimano XTR Rear Derailleur Rapid Rise M970 GS Medium Cage
    • Shimano XTR STI Brake & Shifter Combo M970
    • Titec J-Bar 31.8
    • Avid BB7 Mountain, 160mm Rotor, 6-Bolt
    • Cane Creek Thudbuster ST Seatpost 27.2mm 396mm
    • Brooks England B17 STD Steel Ladies
    • Schwalbe Racing Ralph EVO Snakeskin 2.25
    • Velocity P-35 Rims

    Any insight and thoughts?

    Cheers,

    Sean.
    I think it all looks great, but I do question the P-35 rim spec. I would downsize that to a Velocity Blunt. With the tires you are choosing, it will actually provide a better profile and will weigh less to boot.

    Otherwise, as I say, the rest seems quite reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    I think it all looks great, but I do question the P-35 rim spec. I would downsize that to a Velocity Blunt. With the tires you are choosing, it will actually provide a better profile and will weigh less to boot.

    Otherwise, as I say, the rest seems quite reasonable.
    Thanks Guitar Ted,

    You're probably right.. they are pretty serious rims. There was a set of them at the LBS for a good price... But the blunts will do fine. eBay has some built up with xt hubs for a decent price but i'm in Australia where the blunts are made so i'll see if i can do better here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuldfasche

    My first post - Woo Hoo!

    After much reading and checking out a large Fargo at the shop i've decided to build a fargo up fro my partner to go alongside my el Mariachi.
    Welcome Wuldfashel! You are going to post pictures, right?

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    This summer's adventures

    It's been a while since I contributed some real adventure photos. I haven't done a ton of riding this summer but I did get out on a couple of real adventures. Here's some recent photos of an overnighter to Pedernales Falls State Park from Austin. Feel free to click the album links for more photos.

    My recent camping setup. The goal was to eliminate panniers. (I need a much smaller sleeping bag!)
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/TIodjOrL4f3G6slHsXiwOkCiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3Fl5guBXI/AAAAAAAAGdM/sg0y6X1Di4Y/s800/IMG_0361.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    Heading out of town, 2 Surlys and a Fargo.
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/8dUZsVm4KYPKj6Nd5Hm5VECiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3FkhwwpVI/AAAAAAAAGdI/krkPR3VxTGc/s800/IMG_0358.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    Hot afternoon. Rest in the shade.
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tgf2X6jvif9XL1n_b3JTLECiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3FqjT-rbI/AAAAAAAAGdg/l_EveH7cUdI/s800/IMG_0372.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    Entering the campgrounds
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/639ClcfmSy5byIDlwnx-ukCiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3FxPkmowI/AAAAAAAAGd4/VDyMtBz2GCc/s800/IMG_0379.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    Post ride cool off
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/OlMcDjSE5YiVdAWD_cbK8ECiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3F09A7nVI/AAAAAAAAGeE/7apOyLkuB2k/s800/IMG_0390.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    Cool setting
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DpWGzDsP_tmSQUfRiWuONUCiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3FzhXn9kI/AAAAAAAAGeA/7cYlGYLS52A/s800/IMG_0386.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_UGYnoWoYnPRiQ_XK637hkCiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3F22dFg5I/AAAAAAAAGeM/23O8dhx57q0/s800/IMG_0403.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/e4B5J-Ij2dTU7wGRKBLtL0CiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=embedwe bsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3F6AE41yI/AAAAAAAAGec/uCrK84T3xoI/s800/IMG_0417.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    Grub time
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kTNlQptxXNP8SAREiFsYcUCiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3F9O3rfYI/AAAAAAAAGes/iI8qFzuFz0U/s800/IMG_0429.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    Sunset "out there." Priceless.
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/vG5OCWXuI8hj316lq8kkvUCiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3F9yfP2XI/AAAAAAAAGew/MNprrVxaofc/s800/IMG_0435.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    Homeward bound.
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/fmRA49_22ccNUQN7ZoneIkCiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TF3GCdFDpxI/AAAAAAAAGfI/0kDcLq4JIiY/s800/IMG_0455.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>

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    Fargo Adventure: Quest for the best BBQ in Texas

    Here's yet another adventure from this summer. A bro and me decided to head out from Austin for a one day quest for some of the best BBQ in Texas. If you live in central Texas and have heard anything about nearby Lockhart TX you'll know that this small town features no less than four legendary barbeque restaurants: Smitty's, Black's, Kreuz Market, and Chisolm Trail.

    We rode from town and managed to eat at both Black's and Smitty's before making our way home.

    Here's some scene's from along the way.
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/LeQYSZO_0a6cfD9cnw4G5ECiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywNJQweaI/AAAAAAAAGXs/dRIi1Oba-nw/s800/IMG_0685.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3yO8YuGypMtgPFAaMVk7aECiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywRJIvkFI/AAAAAAAAGYA/QiK7Xsvx7vU/s800/IMG_0695.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/IUXeTq9_mcewq5EDaALMT0CiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywSQH-yII/AAAAAAAAGYE/n1uTs8uyWZI/s800/IMG_0697.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qxqTUPE4qSnJgwNyKfTggUCiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywTO0G8aI/AAAAAAAAGYI/LIrxX6AG0cY/s800/IMG_0699.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/yCcs8cAU9dm9_-uayi6Ic0CiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=embedwebsite">< img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywTnC7q_I/AAAAAAAAGYM/xQKyL2uYsW4/s800/IMG_0700.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/IwriDHFSIx0Lbs5FsrbNokCiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywUqqMKXI/AAAAAAAAGYY/zW9WOGuFshM/s800/IMG_0701.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/yhZ5Eudrn8d9MjDfVkbVAkCiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywWUs-SlI/AAAAAAAAGYo/Z8g-eVVhNWE/s800/IMG_0704.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/MbhH0BzLP2tjTJ3rC-LZi0CiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywW3LQyhI/AAAAAAAAGYs/qDkIoYum9Y4/s800/IMG_0705.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/x0DDCJNhGjeKrB8dji6DPECiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywYaBpzoI/AAAAAAAAGY0/J4OgrfjSKhc/s800/IMG_0709.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YUmUVE2TfQnOM92twGCZC0CiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywZqZ7iLI/AAAAAAAAGZA/Nwt00KxXhDw/s800/IMG_0717.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    Scene's from Smitty's, one of the oldest barbeque restaurants in TX. Open fires literally three feet from where you wait in line to order. It's unreal.
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/vAtzLdABbNaxYMfLt6Om0ECiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywaTR7dDI/AAAAAAAAGZE/ik41A1j8Irw/s800/IMG_0721.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>
    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/JijHzEVljHG2T9lBTs4xn0CiL4X0uwj6kkhREy2H09w?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_pXYWICYvyC0/TFywa8LKVwI/AAAAAAAAGZI/hZDu4Bf8j0U/s800/IMG_0722.JPG" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/slinville/Rides2010?authkey=Gv1sRgCJeyvIrc7OKjgQE&feat=embed website">Rides 2010</a></td></tr></table>

    Wide open spaces, bikes, best friends, and barbeque. One truly great day.

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    I just traded my fargo frameset back to the store i got it from for credit on stuff I can actually use (and with two other unbuilt 29er frames, a fargo isn't one of them since I don't do bicycle camping) so I never got to try my 14 bottle cages trick out on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuldfasche
    Hi Everyone,

    My first post - Woo Hoo!

    After much reading and checking out a large Fargo at the shop i've decided to build a fargo up fro my partner to go alongside my el Mariachi. I'm hoping to build a small 2010 fargo and have a list of possible parts and am hoping for some input.*

    I guess i'm mainly after confirmation that they will all fit and work together.

    So here we go...


    Thomson Elite X4 MTB Stem 90mm 10 Deg 1.1/8" 31.8
    Titec J-Bar 31.8


    Any insight and thoughts?

    Cheers,

    Sean.
    The whole build looks very good, but as someone who has tried every different alt flat bar on the market on his Fargo, this stem may not be long enough. One thing I noticed is that a shorter stem with a flat bar instead of drops makes the steering very fast and twitchy. I have a medium Fargo, and I have a cut down Fleegle bar with a flipped Thomson 140mm stem. This was the only way I could get the bars far enough forward to make the bike handle properly. It rides like a dream now, and it's by far my favorite ride. Just a heads-up before you drop the coin on a Thomson stem. Good luck with your build!
    Last edited by hooker_47; 08-15-2010 at 05:50 PM.

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    I jut got back from three weeks cycling in Scotland. The fargo was perfect for hauling around all the stuff and my kid on the trailerbike. Great country; beautifull landscape, great villages, nice people, great bars to dry up after getting soaking wet from the rain. The fargo worked again beyond expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pottser
    I jut got back from three weeks cycling in Scotland.
    What gorgeous scenery! This family outing will be remembered for a long time.

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    2011 Update

    A new Fargo color and/or build spec will be released in September...
    Anyone heard details?

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    Fargo fork options

    I need a replacement rigid fork for my XXL Fargo. They are listed for sale but out of stock all over the place. LBS/Salsa dealer is having no luck actually getting one. If I canít get a hold of a Salsa Fargo fork, are there any other options known to work on a Fargo frame? I donít seem to be able to match the 50mm rake specíed on my frame. 43mm rake is where most of the aftermarket forks seem to be. I know little about changing fork rake other than it is not recommended. On top of that, most of the other forks being manufactured have some degree of suspension correction, presumably making them unuseable on a Fargo or throwing another huge variable in the mix. Any suggestions? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahunamoose
    I need a replacement rigid fork for my XXL Fargo.
    Have you contacted any of the Salsa crew? They are pretty helpful and will to point you in the right direction.

    Can the fork be repaired? With it being steel it can be welded and repainted. If you know of a bike builder in your area, they may be able to assist you with your problem.

    Good luck and hopefully you'll be back on the Fargo soon.

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    Some more pictures to keep this thread alive.







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    How good is the fargo on pavement? I'm trying to decide between a Surly LHT or the Fargo for my first touring bike. I think it would be nice to have the off-road capabilities with the Fargo but I'm not sure it will come at a cost during long road tours. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tw3nty9er
    How good is the fargo on pavement? I'm trying to decide between a Surly LHT or the Fargo for my first touring bike. I think it would be nice to have the off-road capabilities with the Fargo but I'm not sure it will come at a cost during long road tours. Thanks in advance.
    I don't think there is a mentionable difference between them on pavement once you put some big slicks or semi-slicks on the Fargo . The only thing I can think of is the bottom bracket height, which might or might not be a tad low if you put some 32 mm Schwalbe Marathons on the Fargo, since it is designed for bigger tires.

    I think it comes down to whether you want disk brakes and the additional off-road capabilities (which BTW are very good) of the Fargo. I would have no trouble at all doing a long road tour with my Fargo.
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    The stock Fargo is impressive on the road right out of the box. I thought the first thing I'd replace on mine would be the tires, since I don't use it on trails or at least haven't done so yet. As it turned out, quite a few other things got swapped out, including the wheels, but I'm still using the big fat Vulpines that came on the bike. They look like they would be incredibly slow on pavement, but they don't seem to be. Having the ability to turn off onto a jeep road or even yummy singletrack on an impulse is well worth whatever loss of efficiency (real or perceived) I'm tolerating by keeping those big donuts on there. At some point, I'll try some proper highway tires on it, I suppose, but I'm not in any hurry. Even with low tire pressure and all the crap I've hung on the bike to test its capabilities, it never seems sluggish on pavement. Of course it's no road racer, and mine's a real tank at the moment, but I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out why it rolls so well. Is it the 60 tpi casing? I wouldn't think that would do it.
    29ers are just a fad, like disc brakes, suspension, indexed shifting and mountain bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tw3nty9er
    How good is the fargo on pavement?
    I ride both pavement and dirt roads and the Fargo's real potential lies in the gravel grinder trails in my opinion. I have a set of Vittoria Randonneur Hyper 32's on the Fargo now and it makes for a nice ride on pavement.

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