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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    And there are a couple of nits I have about the Fargo, that if I could change, I would.
    • Single speed- Yes, you can get an ENO hub, but that doesn't appeal to me, and it won't work with an Alfine hub. I think the Fargo would rock with an internally geared hub.
    I came soooooo close so many times to getting a Fargo, but my long range plans include an Alfine without a tensioner. Still, I was sorely tempted......

    Now I have this, derailleur for now, but it will morph to an Alfine as funds allow.



    Not trying to hijack, I think the Fargo is a wonderful bike; I'm not sure it invented the adventure bike category (we were all dreaming and talking about what we wanted in a all rounder bike here for some time). Salsa stepped up and produced that bike that many could afford, since a custom was going to be very pricey. They deserve huge credit for the fact that were willing to take the chance and build it (and they will come? yes, they did)! That is why I am still following this thread.
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    One Year On The Fargo

    Here's the promised blog post on my year on a Fargo: http://g-tedproductions.blogspot.com...sa-cycles.html

    Can't wait for another year to start!
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    I have a question for Fargo riders who have also spent alot of time on "standard 29ers." and cyclocross bikes.

    Does it basically ride like a rigid 29er? or does it feel like a crossbike with big tires? If you're not going to load it for a divide ride, is a rider better off sticking with a crossbike or something like a karate monkey?

    Trying to decide which way to go. I will always keep my cross bike, but not sure weather to go more mountain bike than the fargo. I pretty much only ride gravel roads. No trails within 60 miles of me. So I don't get there very often. I have a cross check, and love its versatility, that is what is appealing to me about the Fargo. options. Any insight would be appreciated.

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    I don't see a problem with a CrossCheck for basic gravel road riding. Unless you want to do something that requires racks, or you want options like multiple bottle mounts, I don't see a fargo being an advantage to you.

    The Fargo rides like a rigid 29"er more than a cross bike. It is heavier, and will do single track, etc. really well.

    A cross bike isn't really suited to single track, not like a Fargo is, and in general, they are lighter bikes.

    I think what you would be best served by is a "Fargo lite". Something that had a Fargos load bearing capabilities, but not as off road oriented. And................I wouldn't be surprised to see such a bike from Salsa in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by bspstp
    I have a question for Fargo riders who have also spent alot of time on "standard 29ers." and cyclocross bikes.

    Does it basically ride like a rigid 29er? or does it feel like a crossbike with big tires? If you're not going to load it for a divide ride, is a rider better off sticking with a crossbike or something like a karate monkey?

    Trying to decide which way to go. I will always keep my cross bike, but not sure weather to go more mountain bike than the fargo. I pretty much only ride gravel roads. No trails within 60 miles of me. So I don't get there very often. I have a cross check, and love its versatility, that is what is appealing to me about the Fargo. options. Any insight would be appreciated.
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    Is the crosscheck Fun Guy Green though ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    ...SNIP... and it won't work with an Alfine hub. ...SNIP...
    Why not?

    I realize it doesn't have any "built-in" means of adjusting chain tension but between chain/cog teeth, half links & full links that's 1/8", 1/4" & 1/2" of adjustment. Isn't that enough? Chains are supposed to be replaced anyway if there's more than 1/16" stretch so I really don't see adjustment being an issue. And from the slack in chains (sloppy!) I've seen on the SS bike pics on this site it doesn't seem to be an issue for many others who aren't using tensioners on non-SS-specific frames.

    Having written all that ... I would prefer a built-in tensioner of some sort. That's the only thing that's stopping me from buying the frameset. I've put in bids on eBay on Mariachis (that's plural) but I keep on changing my mind & never following thru. The Fargo is just calling my name! Dont' particularly like the color (easily DIY remedied) but that is one sweet bike! And it's less than the Mariachi!

    So ... GT ... why can't the Alfine be used? What about the Rohloff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sometimes
    Why not?

    I realize it doesn't have any "built-in" means of adjusting chain tension but between chain/cog teeth, half links & full links that's 1/8", 1/4" & 1/2" of adjustment. Isn't that enough? Chains are supposed to be replaced anyway if there's more than 1/16" stretch so I really don't see adjustment being an issue. And from the slack in chains (sloppy!) I've seen on the SS bike pics on this site it doesn't seem to be an issue for many others who aren't using tensioners on non-SS-specific frames.

    Having written all that ... I would prefer a built-in tensioner of some sort. That's the only thing that's stopping me from buying the frameset. I've put in bids on eBay on Mariachis (that's plural) but I keep on changing my mind & never following thru. The Fargo is just calling my name! Dont' particularly like the color (easily DIY remedied) but that is one sweet bike! And it's less than the Mariachi!

    So ... GT ... why can't the Alfine be used? What about the Rohloff?
    Well, just read your response, you answered the question you asked for me.
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    I'm loving the new Fargo so far! Here are a few shots. More photos at my blog below. Cheers.





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    A little FYI to those of you considering a Fargo frameset: There appears to be some really good closeout pricing on '09 models right now. My favorite LBS said Salsa had lowered their cost by $150 and was able to offer me a price well south of $500. I don't know what the availability is for the "normal" sizes but when my shop checked QBP there were 15 XXLs in stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    Well, just read your response, you answered the question you asked for me.
    Oh ...

    Although I have an Alfine hub, I haven't yet built it up into a wheel so I'm not that familiar with it & I thought that perhaps the frame design prevented it's use.

    It's good to read that it doesn't.

    The Rohloff OTOH (which is what I'm using now & is why I haven't bothered with the Alfine yet) might be a different story due to the chainstay mounting of the disc brake caliper.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sometimes
    Oh ...

    Although I have an Alfine hub, I haven't yet built it up into a wheel so I'm not that familiar with it & I thought that perhaps the frame design prevented it's use.

    It's good to read that it doesn't.

    The Rohloff OTOH (which is what I'm using now & is why I haven't bothered with the Alfine yet) might be a different story due to the chainstay mounting of the disc brake caliper.

    Thanks.
    Hope you get the Alfine to work in there for ya. It's just that it could be easier than messing with half links and what not.

    Even having a semi-vertical drop would be enough to make SS-ing or internal hubs on a Fargo much easier. Just a suggestion for Salsa. (Of course, then you have the disc brake thing......)
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    hells canyon

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/doug_goodenough/4087768584/" title="Sunday Fargo by Doug in Idaho, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2684/4087768584_ce6e3b0a4d_b.jpg" width="768" height="1024" alt="Sunday Fargo" /></a>

    Was a little nervous walking away from the bike on this one....the bike is right on the edge of a 50+ foot cliff.

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    Woohoo! Got my XL Fargo Complete and I love it. So far I have put Planet bike fenders and Magicshine headlight on it. Still want to get a rear rack. Also want a kickstand. Can anyone recommend a good kickstand?

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    Here's my Fargo, just picked it up about a month ago. Haven't had time to do much riding, but so far its been great on the dirt roads and some single tracks here in Vermont. Next year I want to take it out West, perhaps the ACA Utah Cliffs route or some of the Great Divide. So far I've only mounted some water bottle holders, a Brooks B17, some Salsa brown bar tape over the original tape since I like a fat bar, a seatpost rack off another bike, and I made a front rack out of some aluminum stock from the hardware store. Did a quick overnight ride, camping off trail in the state forest. The Fargo is a great ride, can't wait until next year to really use it more.


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    Congrats on your new ride. It looks awesome! I'm also in VT and feel the Fargo is the perfect all around machine for the riding here.
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    The itch became more than I could bear, pulled the trigger on a Fargo today. Build pics to follow.

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    That front rack is super rad!

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    With winter coming on, I'm thinking about riding the Fargo on the road again. Are there any tires I can put on my Delgado 29er Race rims that will increase my speed significantly over the Vulpines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Behindbars
    Can anyone recommend a good kickstand?

    .....maybe this: http://www.biketrailershop.com/catal...tand-p-53.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by hogprint
    Thanks for the link! I will most likely go with that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted
    Hope you get the Alfine to work
    GT: I have an Alfine 29er wheel that I use on my Karate Monkey... But I've been meaning to try it out on the Fargo, especially for Winter commuting... I'll attempt to put it on the Fargo in the next few days and let you know how it goes. I have half links, and will first try to go without a tensioner; otherwise I will use the On One chain tensioner, which is a very simple, yet effective design, using the derailleur hanger to set the tension...

    I can't imagine why it wouldn't be possible... we'll see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by montclairbobbyb
    GT: I have an Alfine 29er wheel that I use on my Karate Monkey... But I've been meaning to try it out on the Fargo, especially for Winter commuting... I'll attempt to put it on the Fargo in the next few days and let you know how it goes. I have half links, and will first try to go without a tensioner; otherwise I will use the On One chain tensioner, which is a very simple, yet effective design, using the derailleur hanger to set the tension...

    I can't imagine why it wouldn't be possible... we'll see...

    BB
    Cool! I look forward to your findings. I think that with what I have heard about Alfine it seems to be a great option that would make a Fargo even more versatile and desirable if it works with the bike.

    I see Shimano is selling a wheelset too with the Alfine and a generator front hub. Could be a good match up for the right frame. My wheels are turning!
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    ...One more thing

    Actually I forgot... I also have an Alfine spring-loaded, double pulley chain tensioner that I intend to try on the Fargo (with my existing SLX crankset) to allow shifting chainrings in the front, essentially give me a 2x8 setup... That would greatly extend the gear range of the Alfine hub. I currently run dual control XT levers, which I am sure won't be compatible with the Alfine hub (different cable pull length)... so I will probably pull the rear derailleur and cables, and throw on the Nexus 8-spd twist shifter and leave the dual controls on... Not very glam, but hopefully functional....

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    Hello! I am very close to choose Fargo frameset to me. Geometry of Fargo is the most important for that choise. Long wheelbase, small HT angle, long chainstay, and short horisontal top tube.

    I need badly to know what is the point of measure for standover height?
    medium 31,6'' 803mm
    large 33'' 840mm

    Second, I need to find here photo of M or L Fargo, side profil. I try to see, how long my seatpost comes and what is the height of most highest part of the frame.

    Horisontal TT is propably enought suitable with both frame sizes. M 575mm, L 585mm. Or what you can say about using short stem (60-80mm) - does it work good?

    I have relatively long legs and short middle body. 184 89inseam 6' 1/2'' 35''
    Differences in frame geometry?

    thanks
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    Here is a side profile of a medium.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/doug_goodenough/3696617892/" title="Salsa Fargo Build by Doug in Idaho, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3534/3696617892_c618d633c6_b.jpg" width="1024" height="680" alt="Salsa Fargo Build" /></a>

    I am a tad over 5'10" tall and about as close to "standard" dimensions as they come I think. The medium fits me great.

    Good luck.

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    Thank you! This is helpful. I try to form a picture how saddle and bar would take places in my cycle.

    Seat tube (c-t) of the M is 457,2mm (18''). My saddle height to BB is between 780-840mm. 840-457=383 , which is seatpost minus saddles own high.

    Seat tube of the L is 508mm (20'').

    Can you take a measurement from floor to top tubes upper join point to head tube? In M Standover height is 803mm (31,6''). What is the point it is measured? (It is near my suggest when I took measurements in that photo.)

    * Standover height is based on using a 29x2.3 tire measuring 750mm in diameter
    http://www.salsacycles.com/fargo09.html

    It would be excellent, if next picture is side profile of L. Thus I can go forward without it too. : XL is interesting too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgersib
    And you can't beat XC Pro thumb shifters running an M900 XTR cassette -- it's perfect 8-speed shifting.
    A man to my heart. Not fargo related, but I have a XC pro group that I'm going to put on my CxC.

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    Baaah Humbug! I've got cable rub.

    I can't be the only one. Anyone have thoughts on the preferred methods to address? Clear Tape? Lizard skins? Is there a clear paint? Has anyone tried to contact Salsa to see if they can get some fun guy green touch-up?

    ~~EDIT: Found my answer on salsa's FAQ
    Do you offer touch-up paint?
    Sorry. But the answer is nope. What we’d recommend is taking your frame to an automotive paint shop supplier. They should be able to make you a pretty good match so you can cover up your scratches.
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    For Doug_ID

    Doug_ID,
    May I ask what's the handlebar on your nice fargo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stwang5225
    Doug_ID,
    May I ask what's the handlebar on your nice fargo?
    Hi,

    Soma Junebug..... http://www.somafab.com/bar_junebug.html

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    That kind of flexible seatpost I see now second time. Are you satiesfied to it too?

    Was the fork longer originally? I think it, becauce never met this kind of modern head. I have used only 80's cycles. My Fargo will get as long fork head, or even longer, if possibly and need.

    I am afraid of choosing frame size still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirrored
    That kind of flexible seatpost I see now second time. Are you satiesfied to it too?

    Was the fork longer originally? I think it, becauce never met this kind of modern head. I have used only 80's cycles. My Fargo will get as long fork head, or even longer, if possibly and need.

    I am afraid of choosing frame size still.
    The Thudbuster seatpost is ok....I can take it or leave it.

    I think I had an inch or two removed from the fork tube. But as you can see I use a lot of it.

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    I'm cheap. Try glueless patches on a clean frame. Most seem to last a season or two at least. I switched to glueless full-time anyway, so I always have plenty around...

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    Good job! Fargo 2x8 Alfine

    Quote Originally Posted by montclairbobbyb
    GT: I have an Alfine 29er wheel that I use on my Karate Monkey... But I've been meaning to try it out on the Fargo, especially for Winter commuting... I'll attempt to put it on the Fargo in the next few days and let you know how it goes. I have half links, and will first try to go without a tensioner; otherwise I will use the On One chain tensioner, which is a very simple, yet effective design, using the derailleur hanger to set the tension...

    I can't imagine why it wouldn't be possible... we'll see...

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    I successfully created a 2x8 Alfine setup on the Fargo with the Alfine chain tensioner and my normal front derailleur... IT WORKS GREAT!!! And best of all I didn't have to remove any chainlinks... the conversion was easier than I expected... I removed my derailleur and cable... then installed the Alfine chain-tensioner, which is finely-made and has a super strong spring. I then installed the wheel with the Alfine hub (using the non-turn washers for the vert dropouts) and a Nexus grip shifter (which is a POS, but works)....On the Titec H-bar there's not much room for the grip shifter AND a set of Ergon grips, so I just used a shortie rubber SRAM grip... It'll suffice for now. Since I'm running dual control XT shifters (don't laugh, they work amazingly well on the H-bars), they're quite bulky and they interfere with the Alfine thumbshifters (damn!), so I need to use the grip shifter... If I end up liking this setup I may have to somehow tweak the brake/shifter setup... would love to have some kind of a rollamajig for my 9-speed dual control rear brake/shifter to make the cable pull length compatible with the 8 speed hub... hmmm....

    I normally run a larger cog (22t) on the Alfine hub so I can ride it offroad and climb hills (on my Karate Monkey)... I can climb pretty much every hill I can with my derailleured 29er; but the downside is I pedal myself out rather quickly on fireroads... for me it's worth the tradeoff to be able to climb. On the Fargo, I get the same low gear range as on the Monkey, but NOW...lo and behold... when shifting to the large chainring I suddenly have high gears.... WOW!!! And it shifts flawlessly. Tomorrow I will take it on a nice long test ride and report back.

    In the mean time it's late here, and I snapped a quick picture just to give you an idea of what it looks like.

    So now my Alfine has a much wider gear range... pretty awesome!!... I think this is going to be my Winter commuter setup.



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    Buenos Tardes fellow Fargoers...

    I happily received my Fargo frame last evening. I need to set up with Framesaver then as I begin to build I will post photos, looking forward to some feedback. I was going to go with the Soma Doublecross DC but thought here in Northern Vermont, the Fargo would be more fun and able to go pretty much anywhere. I look forward to getting some feedback on my build. Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by occhilupo
    I happily received my Fargo frame last evening. I need to set up with Framesaver then as I begin to build I will post photos, looking forward to some feedback. I was going to go with the Soma Doublecross DC but thought here in Northern Vermont, the Fargo would be more fun and able to go pretty much anywhere. I look forward to getting some feedback on my build. Peace.
    Lucky dog! Mine's supposed to arrive Monday.

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    Sweet, I ordered a bunch of parts for it this morning as well, XT/ Mavic wheelset, WTB Nano's, King headset...I'm stoked...it will be interesting to configure the stem/headset riser combo because of the unique geometry...I'm going to use my Jones bars, hopefully the Race Face stem I have will work ok; looks like I'll have to set the trainer up to find out.

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    [QUOTE=Doug_ID]The Thudbuster seatpost is ok....I can take it or leave it.

    I felt the same way until I took it off. I didn't realize how much it was helping my back on long rides. Great pics, btw, makes me want to move to Boise.

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    [quote=BigIf]
    Quote Originally Posted by Doug_ID
    The Thudbuster seatpost is ok....I can take it or leave it.

    I felt the same way until I took it off. I didn't realize how much it was helping my back on long rides. Great pics, btw, makes me want to move to Boise.
    Possibly true....I haven't ridden the fargo without the thudbuster yet. I don't really notice much difference between that and my Paragon hardtail though.

    Congrats to the new Fargo owners!

    Arty Farty pic from today......had my first flat since early spring A great November day to be out though.
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    Stunning photo, Doug... B&W does it proper justice...

    As for a Thudbuster, I had always wanted to try one, but have since discovered the joys of a sprung Brooks saddle (B17 Flyer Special).

    Peace,
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    Quote Originally Posted by montclairbobbyb
    Stunning photo, Doug... B&W does it proper justice...

    As for a Thudbuster, I had always wanted to try one, but have since discovered the joys of a sprung Brooks saddle (B17 Flyer Special).

    Peace,
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    First off- Cool take on a IGH set up. Basically a two range gear box deal. I look forward to your long term report on it.

    I've set up an El Mariachi with a Thudbuster short travel post. So far, so good. I am covinced that if your roads are rough enough, its a good thing. Still not sold that I need it on a Fargo though. (I would have to be off road a majority of my time to justify it) Still, it's definitely lighter than the Brooks sprung models, so if weight is a concern, it does have that advantage.

    Looks-wise, the Brooks simply outclasses any sus seat post, so I grant you that point!
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    Alfine 2x8 - First Ride

    I took the Fargo (with the 2x8 Alfine hub setup) for a 35-40 mile ride yesterday. The gearing setup worked perfectly and having a second range really expands the utility of this hub. I use the middle and outer chainrings; the middle "range" for climbs and slow technical terrain; the outer range for flats and descents. I've only previously used the Alfine (on my Karate Monkey) without a chain tensioner, but on the Fargo with the Alfine tensioner I barely noticed it was there... I had zero problems with my chainline... it felt very smooth in both ranges.

    Technically the Alfine is heavy, and definitely not for weight-weenies... But then again my Fargo and I are technically heavier than we need to be, and yet I seldom feel anchored down by the weight of this bike; it rolls so nicely. And I marvel at how well the Alfine functions... It's a work of mechanical beauty.

    My only disappointmnet with the Alfine is the lack of shifter options. To me the Nexus gripshifter feels cheap and flimsy (certainly below Shimano's usual standards), and the Alfine thumbshifter feels better, but it seems larger than it needs to be, and doesn't fit well on the H-bars with my brakes and Ergon grips. I'll keep searching for a better shifter option.

    I plan to keep the Alfine on the Fargo for now, and will work on my shifter setup... (while giving my Phil Wood hub a winter vacation)... I'll report back in a few months. If anyone else is using an Alfine (or other IG hub) on their Fargo, please share your experiences.

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    Regarding the seatpost discussion I have an Eriksen Ti layback seatpost and a Koobi PRS Enduro seat on my Fargo. Simple, relatively light, and the ride is butter smooth. They don't exactly give these products away but I am really impressed by the combo.
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    Hey BB, I think you should check out the Jtek bar end shifter.
    If your using a staright bar my guess is the Paul thumb lever mount should work:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/singularcy ... 998598025/
    I heard the owner may have fallen ill and stopped trading, but don't take my word for it.

    There's now also a STI-style shifter called Versa VRS-8:
    http://www.sussex.com.tw/versa.html
    http://www.bikeman.com/content/view/2049/48/

    Problem solvers have a converter that for 8sp bar end shifters if you have one in your parts bin:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/hiawathacy ... 347659679/
    http://www.problemsolversbike.com/products.html

    Lots more info here:
    http://hubstripping.wordpress.com/alfine-shimano/

    Must say I was turned of a bit after trying out a friends bike. I definitely could feel the some drag in all gears but one.
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    Alfine Shifter Options

    Dr bender (and BTW, great avatar):

    Thanks for taking the time to provide the great information. My particular problem stems from my use of the H-bar (with the XT dual contol brake shifters, which works flawlessly with a derailleur). In a perfect world I'd use the same dual control for the Alfine; otherwise I'd have to swap out both the shifter and the brake setup. Ideally I'd like to use something like an In-line Travel Agent that would effectively lengthen the cable pull of my 9-speed shifter to that of an 8-speed shifter... (Problem Solvers, are you listening???)

    If I can't get this worked out, I will probably switch the Fargo back to derailleur, and use the Alfine on a bike with straight bars...

    BTW I'm surprised you felt drag on your friend's Alfine... I've felt zero drag on mine.

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    Do you have a road chainset in Fargo?

    Hi again! I am waiting my Fargo frameset L. I am very much with part-compatibility studies now. Didn't know much, but have to choose.

    I have read 48T is the biggest teethwheel which fit to Fargo. Can I use road-triple 28-38-48T cranks and road triple derailleur with it? Can I set chainline as normal road triple?

    This is the crankset. http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...--32693?_brc=0 Does it fit to Fargo with 110mm axle?


    BB, you have interesting Alfine setup. I thinked Alfine very much first, but then desided go for simply ordinany outer system. I will use 8 leaves sprocket. I have 8-speed bar-end shifters already. I prefer 3/32'' chain towards more narrow ones.



    Edit: Do I need some cable guide to frame under Bottom Bracket or does it come with the frameset?
    http://roseversand.com/output/contro...0&detail2=1898
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    I got dual control shifters and never looked back, they perfect for this handle bar.
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    Indeed... perfect.

    I've used the following shifters so far on the Fargo with H-bar:

    A pair of old Suntour XC thumb shifters.... they looked and felt awesome, but friction shifting accurately on a 9-speed cassette is tricky.

    Grip Shifters... Simply too big for the H-bar... hardly any room for my hands

    XT dual control brake/shifters... PERFECT!!!

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    I found a split perch for my bar end shifters.

    I plan on trying my Hbars on my Fargo. IRD makes a mount like Paul's only with a split perch.This way I can use the bar end shifters that came with the bike. Havent bought it yet but will post pics when I do. Harry

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    Sizing: Big frame for touring stability

    Quote Originally Posted by mirrored
    Hello! I am very close to choose Fargo frameset to me. Geometry of Fargo is the most important for that choise. Long wheelbase, small HT angle, long chainstay, and short horisontal top tube.

    I need badly to know what is the point of measure for standover height?
    medium 31,6'' 803mm
    large 33'' 840mm

    Second, I need to find here photo of M or L Fargo, side profil. I try to see, how long my seatpost comes and what is the height of most highest part of the frame.

    Horisontal TT is propably enought suitable with both frame sizes. M 575mm, L 585mm. Or what you can say about using short stem (60-80mm) - does it work good?

    I have relatively long legs and short middle body. 184 89inseam 6' 1/2'' 35''
    Differences in frame geometry?

    thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by mirrored
    Thank you! This is helpful. I try to form a picture how saddle and bar would take places in my cycle.

    Seat tube (c-t) of the M is 457,2mm (18''). My saddle height to BB is between 780-840mm. 840-457=383 , which is seatpost minus saddles own high.

    Seat tube of the L is 508mm (20'').

    Can you take a measurement from floor to top tubes upper join point to head tube? In M Standover height is 803mm (31,6''). What is the point it is measured? (It is near my suggest when I took measurements in that photo.)

    * Standover height is based on using a 29x2.3 tire measuring 750mm in diameter
    http://www.salsacycles.com/fargo09.html

    It would be excellent, if next picture is side profile of L. Thus I can go forward without it too. : XL is interesting too.


    Quote Originally Posted by mirrored
    Hi again! I am waiting my Fargo frameset L. I am very much with part-compatibility studies now. Didn't know much, but have to choose.

    I have read 48T is the biggest teethwheel which fit to Fargo. Can I use road-triple 28-38-48T cranks and road triple derailleur with it? Can I set chainline as normal road triple?

    This is the crankset. http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/catego...--32693?_brc=0 Does it fit to Fargo with 110mm axle? Edit 9.12. No, I think I need 120mm axle becauce chainline must be 50mm (or 48 if it fit).


    BB, you have interesting Alfine setup. I thinked Alfine very much first, but then desided go for simply ordinany outer system. I will use 8 leaves sprocket. I have 8-speed bar-end shifters already. I prefer 3/32'' chain towards more narrow ones.



    Edit: Do I need some cable guide to frame under Bottom Bracket or does it come with the frameset?
    http://roseversand.com/output/contro...0&detail2=1898


    I have done measurements with my road bike (Crescent 58cm top tube, 58 cm seat tube c-c). I use a brush stem fixed by tape to show where the top tube of Fargo would be plased with different frame sizes. I pay attention the head tube angle and my conclusion was I have bought one size too little frame.

    Handlebar comes too near to saddle when rising it good level - or I can see with XL size it is not too long distance. I want adjust Fargo road bar so up, that lower hold is similar level than upper in my old road bike. With XL I don't need so much spacers for rising the handlebars too.

    I have not yet Fargo frame here, but it is very near. I will get it tomorrow or next day to that. Then I am sure about fitting. I suppose very strongly, I need to sell L and buy XL. I accentuate best touring acting in contrat to nimble MTB, therefore want a pretty big frame. There is something about fitting. http://www.rivbike.com/article/bike_...g_a_frame_size

    Look Competitive Cyclist too and their writings about different fittings. "French fit" is near to touring fit. There is a calculator too.

    http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...LCULATOR_INTRO
    Read "The traditions of road riding and our three styles of fit"
    See: if you go to MTB area there, you can find same calculator but different findings. (all mountain fit)
    Last edited by mirrored; 12-09-2009 at 02:23 PM.

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