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    The Salsa Casseroll thread

    Hello all,

    It seems like the Casseroll is such a neat, versatile bike, but I never see much information on it. So, I'm starting a thread that I'm hoping will attract a few fans. I just picked up mine this winter from Jenson, at their great $290 price for the frame and fork. I built it up with spare parts from my bin, so nothing too fancy:



    It's a 57cm, currently set up as a fixed gear (with two gearing options: 46 x 19 and 46 x 23, I think). The rear wheel is a seven speed freehub that my buddy welded shut. This makes it really easy to adjust the chainline, but doesn't have any provision for a flip/flop fixed/free option. That may be my next project, along with some Nitto Noodle handlebars.

    What's in your recipe?

    Eric D
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    A few from RBR:
    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=116717
    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=116596
    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=114738 - I love how huge the tires are on this bike!

    One from this very forum:
    Casseroll? Anybody?

    And this is a search for Salsa Casseroll on RBR:
    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/sea...archid=1493023

    They are indeed great looking bikes. I'm hoping the 08 sees one underneath me at some time.
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    Ah, there was my problem: I was mis-spelling "Casseroll" as "Casserole." That changes the search results significantly.

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    I am going to spend my Christmas cash on a Casseroll SS complete bike, can't wait.

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    What brake calipers is everyone running on theirs? I am building mine as we speak and need a little help, I know about the Tektro and Cane Creek calipers but am looking at doing Sram across the entire bike. I found a couple auctions on ebay for 49-59mm reach Force calipers but I am not sure if this is the correct measurement for them as my LBS tells me they are short reach calipers. By the way, I also picked mine up from Jenson a couple weeks ago, what a "steel" of a deal. I got the Force/Rival components ordered from the LBS and just got the Force braze on front deraileur from ebay yesterday, I really wish they still made a 28.6 clamp on front deraileur so I wouldn't have had to resort to a braze on with adapter clamp.

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    Here is a pic of my progress the stem and seat post are only temporary till I decide what I need/want.
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    You're outta luck on the Force standard reach. If you don't want the Tektro or CaneCreek (same thing, really), you're left with Shimano Ultegra level. I'm pretty sure Rivendell does something in standard reach too.

    Or you could use the Paul Racer's. Kinda spendy, but pretty.
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    I use the Tektro 521AG (I think that's the number) on mine. So far, I like them--strong and easy to set up. I haven't tried them with fenders yet, though.

    The frame needs long reach calipers. I think these usually run 47-57mm reach.

    Eric

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    Love the bike. What size is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by black cross
    Love the bike. What size is it?

    My frame is a 47cm and I am trying out a 46cm Salsa Bell Lap bar. If anyone has any experience with this bar feel free to send your feedback on it, I am interested in what I am in for from it.

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    I have bell laps on both my Surly Crosscheck and my Salsa Chili Con Crosso. I think that they are 44cm. I really do like the bars. Lots of options for hand positions.

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    Thats one long head tube for a 47 cm bike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by black cross
    Thats one long head tube for a 47 cm bike!
    Seat_Boy's frame is a 57cm, I think you got mine and his mixed up.

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    Salsa Casseroll vs Kogswell PR

    Anyone had the opportunity to ride both of these frames?
    I'm waffling between a 700c PR or a Casseroll. Either one should meet my needs to have a fat tired commuter that could convert to an all day, geared bike on occasion.

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    I have the Bell Laps on my Gunnar Crosshairs. I think they're just OK. I don't really like the flare to them, and the ergo part has to be positioned correctly to make it comfortable (when I rotated the bars too far up, the grip position was in a weird spot)

    All in all, I much prefer the Nitto Noodles I had previously (that I sold when I sold my Romulus). I'm getting some new Noodles soon, and those will go on the Salsa. I'll probably go as wide as I can, 48cm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reachout
    My frame is a 47cm and I am trying out a 46cm Salsa Bell Lap bar. If anyone has any experience with this bar feel free to send your feedback on it, I am interested in what I am in for from it.

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    The Casseroll I Whipped Up...

    Here's the Casseroll I built up for my beautiful wife a couple months ago. It's a parts bin special, save for the new WTB saddle and Nitto Moustache bar, but the ride quality is absolutely superb, especially considering the modest cost of the bike. The Salsa team did a great job tuning the ride of the Casseroll to make it one smooth roller.
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    Love mine. 2007 Ginger Beer bought on sale but not as good as the Jenson sale. Size 53cm. First road bike I have owned that allowed me to get the bars at the right height without spacers. Yes, the headtube is that tall. Mostly serves commuter duty, fully fendered out and all, but I did take it out for a fast-paced hilly 32-miler yesterday and it performed great.

    Spec'd out with SRAM Rival, Phil Wood/Open Pro wheels, Thomson & King bits, etc. The first set of pics I took of it didn't come out very well, so I will take some more and add them to this thread.

    I am very close to ordering the SS Complete version also.

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    So there is really no difference in performance between the Cane Creek SCR-3L and the Tektro's?

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    Jason,
    Do I need to make sure my LBS orders my 51 cm ss pretty soon or do you see them in stock for a while?

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    Availability will be tight.....

    Quote Originally Posted by black cross
    Jason,
    Do I need to make sure my LBS orders my 51 cm ss pretty soon or do you see them in stock for a while?
    Well, I don't really want to write this, but the first shipment that is due next week is almost all going to pre booked dealer orders. Specifically, this means if your local dealer has not placed a stocking order, they will likely not be able to get any from this first shipment.

    Specifically, the 51, 53, 55 and 57cm in the SS are sold out. 45, 47, & 49 will be available from QBP.

    All sizes of the Casseroll Triple will still be available after dealer pre orders

    Now, the even worse news. The next shipment will not be here until March and that order should fill the pipeline and have open stock at QBP.

    If your dealers have specific questions, please have them call 877 Moto Ace and ask for Don or Bobby. There are always cancellations.

    Thanks and sorry for the bad news.

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    Wow - amazing build looks great ...
    It's got to be AUSTRIA !!!

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    Very nice...

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    Here's an update on my build; I got a bit impatient and transferred my XTR stuff over along with my riser bar and Thomson stem and post, all I need is a couple cables and a little bit of housing to finish, it will atleast get me out on it till I can get the rest of my Sram stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reachout
    Here's an update on my build; I got a bit impatient and transferred my XTR stuff over along with my riser bar and Thomson stem and post, all I need is a couple cables and a little bit of housing to finish, it will atleast get me out on it till I can get the rest of my Sram stuff.
    That thing looks great. Nice work! I bet it rides awesome... Hopefully you've been able to get out on it once or twice at least!!

    Cheers,
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    The casserolles are just too versatile. Great looking in any configuration. Post more please!!!

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    My Super Commuter

    Here's my latest. More pics on my blog.

    Lot's of Japanese parts on this bike. I've got Honjo fenders too, but didn't have time to mount them before today's ride. I'll share the story on the Salsa blog about the parts along with some Casseroll history sometime in the next week.

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    Jason, nice looking ride. I was hoping to get one but missed out on the first shipment. Maybe one from the next shipment, hopefully in March. What size is the bike? Is yours the complete bike with a few changes? Ok, I'll wait for the report on the blog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salsa Cycles
    Here's my latest. More pics on my blog.

    Lot's of Japanese parts on this bike. I've got Honjo fenders too, but didn't have time to mount them before today's ride. I'll share the story on the Salsa blog about the parts along with some Casseroll history sometime in the next week.

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    Looks great Jason! Nice rack. Is that the Surly? One of these days I'll get pics of mine up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salsa Cycles
    Here's my latest. More pics on my blog.

    Lot's of Japanese parts on this bike. I've got Honjo fenders too, but didn't have time to mount them before today's ride. I'll share the story on the Salsa blog about the parts along with some Casseroll history sometime in the next week.

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    Ultra hot, my brother. Great story about the genesis of the Casseroll on the Amigos blog too. Thanks for taking the time to post that -- it's a very interesting read.

    My wife Laura is loving her Casseroll. I hope to get one of my own at some point, but since I just got a new La Cruz, "at some point" is probably going to have to come sometime later. It sounds like availability is pretty scarce right now anyway, especially on those beautiful mustard yellow frames that I like so much...

    I dig your parts selection. Given the bike's lineage, you really kept it true to its roots. Nice work.

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    Casseroll Gets PEZed...

    Saw this review the Salsa Casseroll on PEZ Cycling today.
    Check it out HERE.

    My fave line- "But perhaps most astounding – was how much ride experience Salsa offers for just US $1540.00 (Damn – that’s less than the last set of wheels I reviewed!)"
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    Hey MG, I need a ride comparison. Ya know I've been dying to get a Chile. So tell me, how does the La Cruz ride compared to the Chile? The one thing holding me back on the La Cruz is that it will cost me more to build with the disc brakes and wheels compared to swapping the parts from my current cross bike over to a Con Crosso. What cha think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big29
    Hey MG, I need a ride comparison. Ya know I've been dying to get a Chile. So tell me, how does the La Cruz ride compared to the Chile? The one thing holding me back on the La Cruz is that it will cost me more to build with the disc brakes and wheels compared to swapping the parts from my current cross bike over to a Con Crosso. What cha think?
    Hey Big29 -- That's a good question. The Chili is definitely lighter, and perhaps a bit plusher, actually. It's a fast, efficient frame, and it's pretty lively for an alloy-based frame, but it's still not steel. When you ride the La Cruz, you're reminded of that fact. I can't put my finger on it any harder than to say it that way. It's not that one is better than the other, it's just that if you're after "the feel of steel," then you're after a La Cruz, not a CCC. If you want an ultra-light bike to whip your riding buddies like gimps, you're after a CCC, not a La Cruz.

    The La Cruz defines the contemporary quality steel ride, in a 'cross-style bike, much as the El Mariachi defines the breed for a mountain bike, in my mind. It's not ultra light-weight, but it's got the balance thing dialed to 11. It's confident in any situation, road to moderately technical off-road.

    If you've already got wheels to go on a Con Crosso frame, it probably makes the decision a little easier... perhaps. That said, keep in mind the Con Crosso doesn't come with a fork, where the La Cruz frameset does, so you don't have a fork to buy with a La Cruz. You'll have more money for wheels that way... Personally, I prefer discs in every situation.

    That said, I'm not getting rid of my Con Crosso -- NO WAY!! I'm keeping 'em both, because I race in the old guys class in 'cross, which isn't a UCI class, so I can run discs. That means I can have both my CCC and my La Cruz ready for 'cross racin' action. Regardless of which bike I'm riding, I've got an awesome bike ready in the pits!!

    I love both bikes... If you forced me to choose one, I'd just laugh and tell you that it's a good thing I don't really have to choose!
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    Actually...(don't mean to step on your toes or anything Mr. Gersib) but the new 2008 Chili Con Crosso actually does include the fork. Retail pricing will of course be a bit more than last year because of this, but still way cheaper than sourcing one after market...and...it will be in a hot matching graphic scheme courtesy of Alpha Q! Check it out here:

    http://www.salsacycles.com/chiliconcrosso08.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salsa Cycles
    Actually...(don't mean to step on your toes or anything Mr. Gersib) but the new 2008 Chili Con Crosso actually does include the fork. Retail pricing will of course be a bit more than last year because of this, but still way cheaper than sourcing one after market...and...it will be in a hot matching graphic scheme courtesy of Alpha Q! Check it out here:

    http://www.salsacycles.com/chiliconcrosso08.html

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    Very sweet indeed... You did it up right! Thanks for the correction Bobby -- I certainly take no offense. I just hadn't seen the change in spec '07 vs. '08. My bad. You chose the exact right fork for that frame though, as the character of the Alpha Q fork matches the compliance of the rear end perfectly.

    So Big-29, now the choice becomes a bit tougher... but I think if you're primarily buying a racing bike, go CCC. If you're buying more of an 'all-arounder,' to commute on, hit gravel roads, maybe put racks and fenders on and do some touring on, I'd lean more towards the La Cruz.

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    Here is my little commuter's photo.
    Mine has shimano wh500 wheel and panaracer pacera 28mm now.
    equipped with MINOURA rear rack. The parts were transplanted from my crashed panasonic bike. ( When I had no bike after crash, I saw nice little caseroll frame hanging in my LBS. )

    Do anybody kindly recommend most comfy tire and wheel (or rim )
    for caseroll of suburban commuter ? I'd rather use slightly plump ones.
    The road pavement a litlle rough surface here.
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    Onigiri,

    Joe Meiser here, one of the designers for the Casseroll frame. I would suggest either 28 or 32c tires for your Casseroll. I have two Casseroll's, one setup as a geared 2x10 commuter with rack and fenders, one setup as a fixed gear with rack and fenders. My favorite tires for a durable comfortable road tire are the Schwalbe Stelvio 28's. They are very supple with 100 psi in them, handle well, and are very durable. My first set of Stelvio's were 23's. I put them on a fixed gear and got close to 3000 miles out of them. When those wore out I bought 28's and have been riding them for 2+ seasons, year round here in Minnesota. My second favorite tire is the Panaracer T-Serv. I bought a set of these when we first recieved sample Casseroll frames. The rear one finally wore through the tread and I had to replace it after the sidewall was slashed by some road debris. I did ride it with a dollar bill reinforcing the slashed area for a week before I replaced it. The front has not been replaced in 3 years and has about 5000 miles on it.

    It is good to hear that you Love your Casseroll, it looks like a great build!

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    Joe,
    Thank you for the suggestion. How tough those tires are !

    I love this bike well. I'm happy to hear from designer.
    In the cold, strong northern wind, sometimes riding is like sailing,

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    new bars

    Hey all,

    I wanted to check in and show you my latest Casseroll. The build I had shown in post #1 gave me quite a back ache after an hours ride. I'm just getting too old (35) for those low down bars. So, after a couple of stem and bar changes, I think I've achieved comfort:



    A 48cm Nitto Noodle with an uncut steerer tube and a shorter stem with some rise (I'm going for the highest bar award). It's been miserably cold and dark here to get much riding in, but it feels good on my short jaunts. Maybe this weekend I'll finally be able to get out for a longer ride.

    Next up: A Brooks B17N and possibly... gears. I haven't ridden a geared bike in quite a while, but I'm feeling a temptation for a down tube shifter and a 1x9 setup. Maybe even try to get it to index, if my old worn parts will allow that.

    Eric

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    Finally got some decent photos of mine...this mostly serves as my commuter, but I have taken it out on a couple fast 30+ mile hilly road rides too and been very pleased.

    Set up with full SRAM Rival (love it) save for the long reach Tektro brakes, Phil Wood/Open Pro wheelset, various King/Thomson bits, etc. I just threw the SDG saddle on the other day after nabbing the Storika that it was wearing for my "weekend" road bike. Not sure if the tiger print really suits the bike, but it sure is comfy!!

    Anyway, here are the pics.
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    Very nice! I really like my La Raza, but the thought of a Casseroll with Rival just like yours is really starting to take hold.

    I do have a silly question, though: do the fenders slow you down any? I've always wondered about that.

    JJ

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    Good looking.
    I also set handle bar higher by 2 cm than before, and I feel better with it on commuting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonJ
    Very nice! I really like my La Raza, but the thought of a Casseroll with Rival just like yours is really starting to take hold.

    I do have a silly question, though: do the fenders slow you down any? I've always wondered about that.

    JJ
    I have always used little clip on fenders in the past, which were very mediocre, so this is my first bike with full fenders, and they rock in the wet weather! Do they slow me down? Nah. Will they come off once our rainy season ends? Yes.

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    Jason,
    Are you still looking for the next shipment of SS Casserolls to land late March, in a 51 or 53?

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    Late March or Early April

    Quote Originally Posted by black cross
    Jason,
    Are you still looking for the next shipment of SS Casserolls to land late March, in a 51 or 53?
    Still awaiting final shipping notification, but so far I expect them the last week of March or 1st week of April. Both sizes. Good quantity and stock. I'll update this thread if anything changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamjam
    I have always used little clip on fenders in the past, which were very mediocre, so this is my first bike with full fenders, and they rock in the wet weather! Do they slow me down? Nah. Will they come off once our rainy season ends? Yes.
    Cool. So is this also your "go fast" bike, or do you just ride it for fun/commuting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonJ
    Cool. So is this also your "go fast" bike, or do you just ride it for fun/commuting?

    JJ
    Mostly commuting. It was also my "go fast" bike until I got something else to fill that niche recently.

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    Jason,

    I'm just wondering if you have ever weighed a complete 59cm Casseroll w/ gears. I'm clyde so weight isn't that big of a deal, but I'm more curious than anything.

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    Any thoughts on frame size? I am ordering a SS complete but don't have any frames to sit on. I'm 6'2" tall with a 85cm inseam. Can't decide between a 55cm or 57cm frame...looks like the 57cm would have a standover height that would be a bit high.

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    Standover isn't too bad on these frame, since they're a compact (semi-compact?) design. I'd go more by top tube length. These seem to run a bit long. I'm 6'3" with a 57 cm. That has a 60cm top tube, which is just a bit long for me. I have to run an 85mm or so stem to make it work.

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    New Sushi Casseroll on the Table

    Finally built up my Salsa Casseroll (another one from Jenson for $289) and took it for a 30 miler test ride on a gorgeous Southern day. Rode really well and no problems - no hands at roughly 25 mph and no wobble. This is my first build - although I had my LBS face headset / bottom bracket. Many thanks for inspiration from Commuter Man/MB1, Dave Hickey and the rest of you Casserollers and Commuters. And, a big thanks to my buddy Andy who has given me tons of input, great ideas and links to numerous cool websites (I hope he likes it).

    My intent is to build a "speedy" commuter will all silver componets so I can start commuting to work a few days a month. My commute will be a hilly +/- 12 miles in Atlanta thru neighborhoods and into downtown (not a great commuter ride).

    I've dubbed it the "Sushi Casseroll" because I chose mostly Japanese parts: Shimano Ultegra drive train and hubs, long reach brakes, 105 brifters, compact crank (which i intend to replace with something that looks and performs better). The stem (UI-5GX), seat post (N63) and bars (Sobars) are Nitto. Non Japanese parts are Selle San Marco Regal Saddle (anyone know where i can pick one up with nickle/silver rivets???), Mavic Open Pro rims and DT spokes. The tires are Michellin KrylionI 25s but plan to find more commuter friendly 28s. still need to add rear rack and fenders. Bottle cages are from my Litespeed Tuscany so they'll be replaced as well as switching out the Salsa Seat collar from black to silver.
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    xtracycle?

    Has anyone considered adding an xtracycle to their Casseroll? Thinking about adding one to mine for a little more versatility in running errends, getting groceries, etc. and don't really want to build up an entire new bike to do so(the Surly Big Stupid does look cool though!). I think the ultimate would be to put the bike rack option on the xtracycle, then ues it to ride/tour to cool MTB trails while hauling my singlespeed and some camping gear!
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    You COULD do it on a geared bike, but I wouldn't reccomend it!

    Derailleurs are for failures!

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    Hey there Skidmark, Joe Meiser here, designer for Salsa Cycles and the Casseroll dropouts. I have to say that I would recommend against attaching an Xtracycle to the Casseroll. I'm flattered that you would choose it as a potential candidate, but wouldn't advise it. Here's why, the tube specification on the Casseroll is not suited to handle the additional torsion that an Xtracycle add on would add. The frame wouldn't fail immediately, but it wouldn't handle well at all with any load whatsoever. it would be an absolute noodle to say the least.

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    Glad I posted here first! Nothing like getting feedback straight from the designer. I apreciate it. Guess I'll look into the surly. I could always use another bike I suppose.
    You COULD do it on a geared bike, but I wouldn't reccomend it!

    Derailleurs are for failures!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    Guess I'll look into the surly. I could always use another bike I suppose.
    Gonna be listing my 56cm Cross Check for sale soon. If that's your size, and you're interested, I'd be happy to provide the build specs. Complete or just f&f.

    PS to the mods...I will buy an ad regardless.

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    dropouts

    Joe, any chance you'll make those dropouts available to aftermarket builders? It's basically everything I want (in a dropout, at least): long, forward facing opening, derailer hanger, eyelets, polished clamp surfaces... You did a great job on this one.

    Of course, I just ordered a custom frame last year, so I'm not due for a while, but someday....

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    Hey there Skidmark, Joe Meiser here, designer for Salsa Cycles and the Casseroll dropouts.

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    Already available through QBP

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    Joe, any chance you'll make those dropouts available to aftermarket builders? It's basically everything I want (in a dropout, at least): long, forward facing opening, derailer hanger, eyelets, polished clamp surfaces... You did a great job on this one.

    Of course, I just ordered a custom frame last year, so I'm not due for a while, but someday....

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    Hello all,

    What's in your recipe?

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    Mine's a pretty strait forward road bike. I was going for a classic looking ride that I could commute and bike camp with. I'll probably end up putting more miles on it than my Comotion Espresso this year (which is far racier- but has couplers for travel.) Its just so comfy and suits my style of mostly solo exploration road rides. Looking to put a nice front nitto rack on it with a bag for the digital SLR.
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    ATXSS (and other Casserollers): What size is your frame and what's your height/inseam? I am deciding between a Casseroll and a Honky Tonk, and having a tough time figuring out the Casseroll sizing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by knucklesandwich
    ATXSS (and other Casserollers): What size is your frame and what's your height/inseam? I am deciding between a Casseroll and a Honky Tonk, and having a tough time figuring out the Casseroll sizing...
    I have 94 cm (37") inseam, I'm 6'-4" and have a 59 cm (62 cm traditional) Casseroll.
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    Use your desired TT length as a starting point.

    Quote Originally Posted by knucklesandwich
    ATXSS (and other Casserollers): What size is your frame and what's your height/inseam? I am deciding between a Casseroll and a Honky Tonk, and having a tough time figuring out the Casseroll sizing...
    Determine your Top Tube length and buy the casseroll with that same TT. The Casseroll has a gentle 3cm slope. Meaning, our 53 has a 56 Top Tube, 55 has a 58 TT, and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knucklesandwich
    ATXSS (and other Casserollers): What size is your frame and what's your height/inseam? I am deciding between a Casseroll and a Honky Tonk, and having a tough time figuring out the Casseroll sizing...

    I'm 5'11" with a 32" inseam. I ride the 53cm listed size which is equivalent to a standard 56cm bike. I chose based on the top tube which is I think 56.5 cm on this bike. Fits perfect with the same size stem I've used on other road bikes with similar top tubes.

    Keep in mind a distinction of the Casseroll from another road or cross frame you've ridden is the head tubes are refreshingly longer on this bike. I like that I'm not using the same standard 30-50mm of spacers that I put on every other road frame to suit my tastes.

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    Anyone know if you can put the 33mm Jack Brown tires on the Casseroll and still get fenders over them? I really want this bike, and that's the only holdup I have at this instant.

    Thanks all for the help. Norton

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    my Salsa scorcher!

    I'm still toying around with my Casseroll, trying to find a nice place for it in my bike "fleet." Here it is post ride Saturday:



    Nothing extraordinary, just a mix of new stuff (9 speed) (or is that old by now?) and old (friction down tube shifters). But that was too close to my Gunnar Crosshairs, so I decided on something different:





    My inspiration:




    To the guy who asked about the Jack Browns: these tires are Hutchinson Acrobats, nominally 38mm wide, but actually about 32 at the casing. I don't think you could fit a fender in there with my brakes (the Tektro long reach).

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    Just stumbled onto this thread trying to poach some DIY tubeless know-how from MG.

    Anyway, here's a couple pics of mine gussied up for Dirty Kanza at the end of the month. Couple weight weiner upgrades. CB Opium HS, as it matches the panels, Antique brown Brooks, as it matches the panels. (Pretty much a fashion slave.) WI FW. Phil Ti bb, Moots post, ilink housing, TR WCS stem, Carbon bars. Set up About 64X.Very comfy on longer (>100mls) gravel and double track dirt rides. Very stable, even on ~40mph downhill gravel. Might swap the stock wheels out, might not. Very impressed w/ the Delgado Cross rims, enough to get 4 more for some other projects.

    Notice the stock head badge placement?! May have to fix that one with a Gary Fisher sticker.
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    why is the headbadge upside-down?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadiegonebad
    why is the headbadge upside-down?
    Not sure. That's the way it came. Doesn't look like it was removed and reattached.

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    Nice scorcher!

    Here's a tip from Wes Williams who may have actually built that Ibis frame you have pictured. He uses big wide cruiser bars (think beach cruiser) flipped and cut slightly shorter to get the big curved bar effect featured on that ibis. Any shop can source you one similar to this.
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    Does this mean you would advise against ever pulling a BOB trailer or pulling the kids around in a Burley Trailer?? That's horrible to me, why would you not design it with that strength there? Yikes.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMKM
    Hey there Skidmark, Joe Meiser here, designer for Salsa Cycles and the Casseroll dropouts. I have to say that I would recommend against attaching an Xtracycle to the Casseroll. I'm flattered that you would choose it as a potential candidate, but wouldn't advise it. Here's why, the tube specification on the Casseroll is not suited to handle the additional torsion that an Xtracycle add on would add. The frame wouldn't fail immediately, but it wouldn't handle well at all with any load whatsoever. it would be an absolute noodle to say the least.

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    BleepBip,

    This does not mean that I would advise against pulling a trailer with the bike. A trailer, attached to the rear triangle or rear axle is very different than bolting an Xtracycle attachment to the bike. You should not be concerned with pulling a trailer behind the Casseroll.

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    Excellent! Thanks for clarifying that as I am the middle of ordering my frame and build kit. I should be able to post it up sometime next week. I am mostly using 105 components and using my $ on some nice Easton wheels. It should be a speedy little commuter. At least that is the goal. =)


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    BleepBip,

    This does not mean that I would advise against pulling a trailer with the bike. A trailer, attached to the rear triangle or rear axle is very different than bolting an Xtracycle attachment to the bike. You should not be concerned with pulling a trailer behind the Casseroll.

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    How does the Casseroll compare to the Gunnar Sport?

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    commuter

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    i want one of these bikes so bad.... i may have to sell my current road bike to get one.

    anyone looking for a custom scandium 54cm road frame?
    Whiskey bent, and hell bound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd.sahib
    Just stumbled onto this thread trying to poach some DIY tubeless know-how from MG.

    Anyway, here's a couple pics of mine gussied up for Dirty Kanza at the end of the month. Couple weight weiner upgrades. CB Opium HS, as it matches the panels, Antique brown Brooks, as it matches the panels. (Pretty much a fashion slave.) WI FW. Phil Ti bb, Moots post, ilink housing, TR WCS stem, Carbon bars. Set up About 64X.Very comfy on longer (>100mls) gravel and double track dirt rides. Very stable, even on ~40mph downhill gravel. Might swap the stock wheels out, might not. Very impressed w/ the Delgado Cross rims, enough to get 4 more for some other projects.

    Notice the stock head badge placement?! May have to fix that one with a Gary Fisher sticker.
    dp

    Can this spicy brown mustard single be run with gears? I'm really wanting a Casseroll
    and would prefer this color over the ginger beer. Just want the option for gears in the future.
    And a good day to you sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nucmedjim
    Can this spicy brown mustard single be run with gears? I'm really wanting a Casseroll
    and would prefer this color over the ginger beer. Just want the option for gears in the future.
    That is an affirmative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd.sahib
    Just stumbled onto this thread trying to poach some DIY tubeless know-how from MG.

    Anyway, here's a couple pics of mine gussied up for Dirty Kanza at the end of the month. Couple weight weiner upgrades. CB Opium HS, as it matches the panels, Antique brown Brooks, as it matches the panels. (Pretty much a fashion slave.) WI FW. Phil Ti bb, Moots post, ilink housing, TR WCS stem, Carbon bars. Set up About 64X.Very comfy on longer (>100mls) gravel and double track dirt rides. Very stable, even on ~40mph downhill gravel. Might swap the stock wheels out, might not. Very impressed w/ the Delgado Cross rims, enough to get 4 more for some other projects.

    Notice the stock head badge placement?! May have to fix that one with a Gary Fisher sticker.
    dp
    Hey dp... You need know-how, you've got it. Whatever you wanna' know, just PM me here, or send me an email. dirtstories at g mail and i'll hook ya' up with whatever you need. i've actually been thinking about tinkering (in mikesee speak, "thinkering") with laura's casseroll... i bet that thing would be sweet with some tubeless marathon racers on its delgado cross rims rollin' the getto tubeless system. hooboy!! it might end up being the excuse i need to get one for myself (is that an excuse?)... regardless, if i got one it'd definitely be one of the sweet mustard ones like you've got dp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stinkydub
    Finally built up my Salsa Casseroll (another one from Jenson for $289) and took it for a 30 miler test ride on a gorgeous Southern day. Rode really well and no problems - no hands at roughly 25 mph and no wobble. This is my first build - although I had my LBS face headset / bottom bracket. Many thanks for inspiration from Commuter Man/MB1, Dave Hickey and the rest of you Casserollers and Commuters. And, a big thanks to my buddy Andy who has given me tons of input, great ideas and links to numerous cool websites (I hope he likes it).

    My intent is to build a "speedy" commuter will all silver componets so I can start commuting to work a few days a month. My commute will be a hilly +/- 12 miles in Atlanta thru neighborhoods and into downtown (not a great commuter ride).

    I've dubbed it the "Sushi Casseroll" because I chose mostly Japanese parts: Shimano Ultegra drive train and hubs, long reach brakes, 105 brifters, compact crank (which i intend to replace with something that looks and performs better). The stem (UI-5GX), seat post (N63) and bars (Sobars) are Nitto. Non Japanese parts are Selle San Marco Regal Saddle (anyone know where i can pick one up with nickle/silver rivets???), Mavic Open Pro rims and DT spokes. The tires are Michellin KrylionI 25s but plan to find more commuter friendly 28s. still need to add rear rack and fenders. Bottle cages are from my Litespeed Tuscany so they'll be replaced as well as switching out the Salsa Seat collar from black to silver.
    Super nice build, and great pics. Thanks for sharing those! Hope you're loving your Casseroll.

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgersib
    That is an affirmative.
    Thanks, I figured that was a deraleur hanger on there. Now just need to figure out
    the right size frame.
    And a good day to you sir!

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    Casseroll Single

    Here's mine. It's a Casseroll Single (complete). I just picked it up last week. The Product Manager on this bike did his/her job very well. So many nice details and great parts specification. By the way, The bike pictured is a 55cm, which translates roughly to a 58cm. I'm 6' 2" and the bike fits great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gazzatmb
    Here's mine. It's a Casseroll Single (complete). I just picked it up last week. The Product Manager on this bike did his/her job very well. So many nice details and great parts specification. By the way, The bike pictured is a 55cm, which translates roughly to a 58cm. I'm 6' 2" and the bike fits great.
    VERY NICE. Great photo. I've been scouring this site and rbr.com trying to find more
    pics of that baby since I'm now in full blown want. Post up more if you can. For the price and the way that thing is spec'd I think it's a great value. Does the flip flop hub come with a fixie cog? Also,
    has anyone gotten theirs from EMS?
    And a good day to you sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nucmedjim
    Thanks, I figured that was a deraleur hanger on there. Now just need to figure out
    the right size frame.
    No problem! What size traditional (non-sloping) road bike would you typically ride? Salsa says to take the size you'd ride and subtract 3cm (so if you'd ride a 58cm "standard" frame, you'd ride a 55cm Casseroll). That's how I sized up my La Cruz and Chili Con Crosso 'cross frames, and it worked out perfect.

    For a Casseroll, I'd think about trying a 57cm however, because I'm right on the cusp of needing a 60cm on a standard road frame. The thinking is that I'd go with a little larger frame for the strictly road frame, but hopefully it wouldn't end up seeming too large. It's a little bit of a gamble since the 55s have worked out so well for me on the 'cross bikes.

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    Hi nucmedjim. No, a fixed cog (and lock ring) does not come with the complete bike. But you can just pick up a cog and lock ring from Surly; that's what I did. (I love their products.) I bought this bike from my Local Bike Shop (LBS). I like doing business with them and I believe that we should support our LBS' whenever we can. You can order your Salsa through your LBS. Virtually all shops have a dealer account with Quality Bicycle Products (QBP). I don't think the Salsa Casseroll Single complete is in the 2008 QBP catalog (NB: I could be wrong), but all your shop needs to do is call them; they have them in stock.

    Pull the trigger on this bike. It's a great deal and I seriously doubt you will regret it. There are just so many things that you can do with this frame.

    Enjoy (more pics below).
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    Awesome. Thanks!
    And a good day to you sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgersib
    No problem! What size traditional (non-sloping) road bike would you typically ride?
    Well, my LBS sized me up for 51cm and it's currently on order to be ready by
    the end of this week!!!!!!! Ohhh yes I'm excited!!! Will post pics when the oven timer
    goes off.
    And a good day to you sir!

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    I am getting ready to switch cranksets over from my XTR triple to an Ultegra double(6500) that uses the octalink BB, does anyone know what axle length BB to use?

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    If my memory serves me correctly you will want a 109.5 BB - from what I have read and seen the Casseroll should have clearance for usual chainline with this crankset.

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    Here's mine that I rode the parkway on this year

    great bike and really comfortable. Here she is fully loaded and on her way back south to NC from VA. Had a great time and really enjoyed my 'roll.
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    Very nice looking bike, and set-up. What panniers are you using? They look like Rivendell panniers, but appears to be a darker canvas than my seat bag from them.

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    They are actually Frost River. I got them off ebay directly from the maker. I got the waxed canvas handlebar bag, seat bag, and panniers from him. Nice stuff but I had to add a hard panel to the inside of the panniers to avoid them possibly getting into the spokes. Check out their stuff, they are of the same quality as Rivendell but a good bit cheaper.

    http://www.frostriver.com/bike_bags/hwy1_panniers.html

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    Anyone know why the Single Complete is spec'd with 700X37 tires if you need a 32 to run fenders?

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    Nice. I'm always amazed at how much better the Salsa paint looks in good light and close up. IMHO Salsa and QBP have ever been able to capture the unique qualities of the paint in their photos. I guess that's why we all enjoy seeing our rides here on MTBR. Keep 'em coming. Good stuff.
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    Figure I should post mine too. 59cm ginger beer frame and fork, ended up as a scorcher-ish fixed gear. The geometry is great for flared drops like the midge (my favorite!), with that low bb and tall headtube. Keeps me loose and pedaling on those long rides. 28mm Pasela's currently, think I'll try something fatter and knobbier next.

    Great job, salsa!
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    PMan, Is the painted stem that matches the single speed available as an option if a longer stem is needed?

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    More Casseroll time

    We had a nice warm fall day and got out and about. I was able to get a little time in on some of the local bootleg atv trails along the river. My wife caught us going and coming.

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    Nice vids there b.d.! I think your casseroll spends more time in dirt than it was designed for, but I know you really like that rig!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayTee705
    Anyone know why the Single Complete is spec'd with 700X37 tires if you need a 32 to run fenders?

    Don't know but I think it's a mistake. I can't imagine that anyone really wants to ride 37c tires on this bike. I know the 37's will be the first thing to go when mine finally arrives (has been backordered for almost two months now).

    I ordered the singlespeed because I liked the color better. I will likely switch it to a 1x9, though I could ride it fixed, since my current fixie doesn't have fender capability.

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