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    I am just about convinced to buy a single speed casseroll after looking at all the pics and reading the comments. I was originally thinking about a cyclocross bike for winter / dirt road riding. I have a Dos Niner for single track and technical riding but was looking for a good dirt / gravel road bike. Is this the bike I need or should I stick with the cyclocross idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaMtbRider
    I am just about convinced to buy a single speed casseroll after looking at all the pics and reading the comments. I was originally thinking about a cyclocross bike for winter / dirt road riding. I have a Dos Niner for single track and technical riding but was looking for a good dirt / gravel road bike. Is this the bike I need or should I stick with the cyclocross idea?
    The Casseroll is not designed to ride off-road whatsoever. I have been strictly warned by the folks at Salsa about this regarding my wife's Casseroll because they know me (and my riding style) too well. That said, I know bd.sahib has ridden his Casseroll in waaaaay worse conditions than Salsa designed the bike for, and it's still kickin', so I'd say it's a matter of whatever you're willing to risk.

    Personally, I'd go with a La Cruz... In fact, that's what I did.

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    First off, I agree whole heartedly with what MG says. I started riding the Casseroll beyond it's "intended purpose" on a gravel detour. I appreciated the stability of the bike, which I attribute to lower bb (bb drop), the choice of tubing, and the overall geometry. I guess I'd say you can get by with certain things depending on riding style and the patience to pick the smoothest line even if its not the fastest. The one caveat I would bring up is mud clearance with larger tires.

    I think the Casseroll Single is a truly amazing machine for all day comfort. For gravel and dirt the La Cruz would be a better choice, especially in winter riding conditions.I've also been comparing the geometry of the Casseroll with the Fargo (bb drop again).

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    Thanks for the feedback. I am still not decided on what I am going to do. If I go with a La Cruz I would just by the frame and build it up with Rival components and stuff I have laying around the garage. It would cost more than the Casseroll but might be the way to go.

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    I have been running cross tires on my Casseroll off and on for a while now. I ride it on gravel and hardpack. It serves me quite well, although we don't get a lot of mud down here in NC so YEMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgersib
    The Casseroll is not designed to ride off-road whatsoever. I have been strictly warned by the folks at Salsa about this regarding my wife's Casseroll because they know me (and my riding style) too well. That said, I know bd.sahib has ridden his Casseroll in waaaaay worse conditions than Salsa designed the bike for, and it's still kickin', so I'd say it's a matter of whatever you're willing to risk.

    Personally, I'd go with a La Cruz... In fact, that's what I did.
    Seems like "dirt road" and "off road" are two totally different things no? as long as its a road that a typical vehicle can travel on the Casseroll should be fine.

    Just like the old Rando. days eh?

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    I decided to go ahead with the Casseroll single speed . I got it two days ago and have put 50 road miles on it so far. I love the smooth ride with the steel frame and the big tires. I have gotten used to 23mm tires at 120 psi on my road bike. This thing just feels so plush with the bigger tires. It fits really well, and is a little slower steering than what I normally ride but it is super stable in the corners and over rough pavement. I still plan on doing some easy dirt road riding with it. Hopefully by next fall I can add a cyclocross bike to the garage and use it for some racing and more of the winter dirt road riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaMtbRider
    I decided to go ahead with the Casseroll single speed .
    Sounds like a winning plan. I think you'll stay pleased with your choice.

    I'm in the middle of re-working my casseroll. It is primarily a commuter now so I'm switching up the build a bit. I've got some Honjo fenders on the way and I'm setting it up with my Nitto Noodle and bar end shifters. Most recently I had a moustache bar on it but I can't say it is as comfortable for me as normal drops.

    Working on bikes comes last to taking care of the household and our 2 kiddos (one newborn) so its been partially completed in the stand for a couple weeks.

    Once I get it finished up I'll have some updated photos for this thread.
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    Anybody running their Cass with Neuvation wheels?
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    Quote Originally Posted by black cross
    PMan, Is the painted stem that matches the single speed available as an option if a longer stem is needed?
    I imagine they show up used on occasion. This guy got one somehow:
    http://forums.roadbikereview.com/sho...d.php?t=155705

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    Quote Originally Posted by black cross
    PMan, Is the painted stem that matches the single speed available as an option if a longer stem is needed?
    Sorry, but the color-matched versions are not available aftermarket. We do, however sell the exact same stem in black, in a wide variety of sizes.

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    What's the clearance like on one of these if you are running something like a 32mm CX tire? I imagine that would be getting close to the brake caliper on even a long reach. One of these would be fun to get and do an occasional single speed CX race on.

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    Quick picture of my Casseroll.
    ~53(56) Frame
    ~Campagnolo Comp triple drive train
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    ~Schwalbe Marathon tires
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    folks - here's another another Casseroll for you. This is my commuter. Great how you can ride it over speed humps, into potholes, kerbs, street detritus etc without feeling a thing. Just don't try to go fast. Just for fun, I left the carbon roadie at home, and took it out with a bunch of people who were riding Cervelos, Times and Looks. Obviously I got a slaying.


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    Another one on the way, just got my frameset in. It'll have these parts on it:

    Red Hope headset
    Salsa S&S bar
    Black Hope stem
    R650 brakes
    R700 compact cranks
    Hope Pro 3 on Open Pro's
    Force shifters and rear der.
    105 Front der.
    Charge Knife saddle
    USE Carbon post
    Red Ritchey bar tape

    I already had the Hope stem and seatpost, otherwise I would have gone with silver bars, stem and post and tan saddle and tape, but I think the black and red should be good. Can't wait to build it....
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    Well I finally got it built and loving it, so much more comfortable than my Cannondale R1000 and it looks pretty cool. Think it looks better with the black Ksyriums as opposed to the handbuilt Hope/Open Pro's, but atleast I can work on them myself and the hubs are nice. Was hoping to go tubeless but found out as they were being finished that the Open Pro's are one of the only rims that won't convert!

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    I've just had my LBS order a Casseroll SS Complete for me. I'll be converting it to a geared triple. Can't wait.
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    Conversion to come soon, but right now it is a lot of fun to ride as a single speed.



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    I am hours away from pulling the trigger on a casseroll single speed. I am still hung up on what size. Without being able to ride one I am somewhat guessing. 6'1", 34.5-35" actual inseam. Riding a 59cm Surly and it seems to fit nearly spot on, but I tend to ride on the shoulders where I would probably spend most times on the hoods on the casseroll. The 55 might put me on a bike slightly small, while the 57 would put me on one a little large, so whats worse? Any help would be appreciated, I cant wait to get one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixinflag
    I am hours away from pulling the trigger on a casseroll single speed. I am still hung up on what size. Without being able to ride one I am somewhat guessing. 6'1", 34.5-35" actual inseam. Riding a 59cm Surly and it seems to fit nearly spot on, but I tend to ride on the shoulders where I would probably spend most times in the drops on the casseroll. The 55 might put me on a bike slightly small, while the 57 would put me on one a little large, so whats worse? Any help would be appreciated, I cant wait to get one.
    Hope this helps:

    I am 1" shorter than you with an actual inseam about 1/2" less. My gold standard for bike fit is my Bridgestone RB-1 size 57.5 with a 57.5cm TT and a 110mm stem. My size 55 Casseroll fits me just on the large side of ideal. The standover is about as close as I would want to go, not hitting anything solid, but barely any clearance. I have the saddle mounted near the front of its adjustment range with plenty of room to slide it rearward if needed. The reach to the handlebars with the standard 100mm stem is just a little long for casual riding but would be fine for a more aggressive riding style. I think if I change to a 90mm stem, I'll be right where I want to be, duplicating the contact points of my RB-1. I believe this would still be the right size frame for me if I was an inch taller.
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    FYI, if people haven't heard yet, QBP seems to be blowing out '09 Casseroll single speed bikes for < $600. I ordered mine Monday

    I went a size up from my original Casseroll, 57cm --> 59cm. I think this will fit a bit better. And I like the mustard yellow color over the ginger beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy
    FYI, if people haven't heard yet, QBP seems to be blowing out '09 Casseroll single speed bikes for < $600. I ordered mine Monday

    I went a size up from my original Casseroll, 57cm --> 59cm. I think this will fit a bit better. And I like the mustard yellow color over the ginger beer.
    Holy smokes thanks for the heads up! They were $735 last week and I thought that was a good price...now only question is 51 or 53...I once had a ginger beer size 53 set up with gears and it was a *tad* big (I fit best on a 55cm road frame) so I wonder if a 51 will be better for me....mmmm mustard....

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    Yep. Universal Cycles has them for $625 with free shipping. Was going to go that direction with plans to convert to triple later, but found a shop demo triple in my size on the bay at a nice discount off the going rate for new ones.

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    I got mine for $595 shipped from Speedgoat. I ordered it Monday, and it looks like it will arrive today.

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    Here's my new Cas on its maiden voyage:



    That's a 59cm frame. I really like the mustard yellow much better than the ginger beer color. It seems to change from orangey inside, to gold under natural light.

    I didn't realize the chainguard came standard. That'll probably go, since my plan is to eventually set this up as a two ring front, for easy gear changes. Maybe with a White Industries Dos freewheel someday when I'm feeling rich.

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    The conversion begins. I hope to finish it tomorrow and ride it Thursday.
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    Blues Dawg, I like that you have Hunter S. Thompson books mixed in with your tools.

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    Pretty much finished for now.
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    Single spec

    So I've been riding my new Cass single speed around for a couple of days. It's funny how such a smartly designed frame has such a poor component selection. Here's my rant:

    Tires:
    Salsa spec: Continental Contact 37mm--too fat to allow a fender, and heavier than need be
    Smart spec: 32mm Panaracer Pasela--still fat for rough streets, but lighter and you can fit a fender.

    Rims:
    Salsa spec: Salsa Delgado Cross--for a bike that Salsa says is not a 'cross bike and shouldn't be ridden off road, why have a 'cross rim?
    Smart spec: anything narrower and lighter, Mavic Open Pro or whatever

    Hubs:
    Salsa spec: The Surly hubs are pretty, but why bolt on?
    Smart spec: the quick realease version. It would hold fine with a Shimano QR, in my experience with this type of dropout (the Casseroll triple gets a rear QR!)

    Crank:
    Salsa spec: 130 BCD--do customers of this bike really want to run a 53t ring?
    Smart spec: 110 BCD would give a wider range of chainring choices

    Gearing:
    Salsa spec: 48 x 18 = 72 gear inches, pretty high
    Smart spec: a 42 x 17 = 67 gear inches, more workable for most people

    Brakes:
    Salsa spec: Tektro R536
    Smart spec: Tektro R538 allows the brake to open wider to clear fat tires on narrower rims.

    Fork:
    Salsa spec: Unicrown
    Smart spec: Lugged. OK, this is mostly my personal aesthetic preference, but a lugged fork does give more tire clearance and allow longer fork legs, which should ride a bit smoother.

    That's it. Despite the preceding, I can't complain too much. I paid barely more than the frameset cost for the complete bike, and I have boxes full of parts to make it a better bike. But Salsa should do this right in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy
    So I've been riding my new Cass single speed around for a couple of days. It's funny how such a smartly designed frame has such a poor component selection. Here's my rant:
    The wide tires and cyclocross rims makes for a a great urban assault vehicle.

    Bolt-on hubs is the right way to go for fixed gear (hubs are flip flop). You might could get away with QR, but not ideal.

    130 BCD rings are readily available from 38 to 53.

    Stock 81 gear-inch gearing (48x16 on my bike) works in some places, not in others, Easily changeable to optimize.

    The on-brake quick release combined with the quick release feature on the brake levers offers a pretty wide opening for wide tires.

    I like lugs and curved legs on forks too, but the Casseroll fork rides smoothly and has lots of clearance.

    I think Salsa's spec offers great function and value, especially at the price they're blowing them out for at present.
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    Casseroll

    I've had my Casseroll for about a year now. It started off life as a singlespeed and now it's got an Ultegra group 10 speed setup. At some point I'd like to get the Paul Racers to fit over the HUMUNGOUS, yet plush tires... but that'll have to wait for now.

    I loved the bike as a single speed, but the thing moves very nicely now with some gears. I only wish I could figure out how to make the chain guard work with a front derailleur. Literally, my only lame complaint.

    I love this bike. It pulls my kids in the Burley trailer wonderfully.

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    I've had my Casseroll for about a year now. It started off life as a singlespeed and now it's got an Ultegra group 10 speed setup. At some point I'd like to get the Paul Racers to fit over the HUMUNGOUS, yet plush tires... but that'll have to wait for now.

    I loved the bike as a single speed, but the thing moves very nicely now with some gears. I only wish I could figure out how to make the chain guard work with a front derailleur. Literally, my only lame complaint.

    I love this bike. It pulls my kids in the Burley trailer wonderfully.

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    Hey, what type of clearence are you getting with the Paul's? I did a Dirt Randonee with my Casserole earlier this year and had difficulty clearing 34's (knobbies) with the stock brakes. Pics would be really awesome here.

    Thanks

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    I haven't ordered them yet. I've got a few other things I have to do before I get a luxury like the Pauls for now, since it's just an inconvenience with the current brakes. I wish they just opened a little bit more to clear the tires. New tires >$60. New Paul Racers >$200 plus. lol.

    I'm not sure which Racers the bike will take, I haven't called them yet.

    Has anyone done the Salsa Recall (for the stem) yet? I don't have a local dealer... I guess I'll have to call the 800 number to see what they are looking for.

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    Here's a funny picture from today's ride:



    I've started to fix some of the things I don't like about the Salsa's spec:

    - 28mm tires instead of 37mm
    - reduced the gearing a bit (right now, 48 x 19 fixed, but I'll eventually change it to a 39/44 x 17 fixed/18 FW setup when I get the 44t chainring)
    - added a Brooks saddle, mostly so I could carry this big seat bag I've wanted to use for a while (it only attaches to the Brooks saddle bag loops)
    - removed the chainguard
    - replaced the rear bolt on axle for a QR. It holds better, and makes running a dual chainring setup/manual gear change much easier. In my experience, the bolt on slipped twice on me (out of two rides), but the QR holds fine, even up today's slow, grinding climb. $16 well spent!

    Anyway, with the QR axle, new tires, and a gearing change on the way, I'm pretty happy with the spec. I'm coming to terms with the fork, and the brakes and rims aren't a big enough issue to spend any money to fix.

    Here's a washed out picture of the new iteration:

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    I like the bag. What is it?

    Oddly, we have had the opposite experiences with rear axle slip. I never had it slip while I was running the bolt on setup. After converting to the geared rear wheel and quick release, I had the axle slip the first time I rode it a few miles. I kept noticing the tire rubbing the fender and thought the fender was moving. When I looked closer I realized that the wheel was cocked to one side because the axle was sliding forward in the drive side dropout. Tightening the QR was all it took to resolve the problem. I'm glad I have Shimano QRs as they hold tighter than the external cam type.
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    A few changes. Shorter stem (Ritchey Pro). A Specialized computer. Baggins Candy Bar front bag to go with the Baggins Banana saddle bag.
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    Salsa Casseroll.

    Tiagra on Open Pros 32
    Full Deore w/48/36/26 and 11-32 trekking groupset
    9-speed shimano bar-end shifters
    Easton post, Brooks B17 saddle
    Hope Headset, Ritchey Stem, Salsa S&S Bar, Cinelli Tape
    Shimano R600 levers, Rsomething brakes
    Panaracer Pasela TG 32 tyres

    Still need to cut the steerer tube!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Chaos

    Salsa Casseroll.

    Tiagra on Open Pros 32
    Full Deore w/48/36/26 and 11-32 trekking groupset
    9-speed shimano bar-end shifters
    Easton post, Brooks B17 saddle
    Hope Headset, Ritchey Stem, Salsa S&S Bar, Cinelli Tape
    Shimano R600 levers, Rsomething brakes
    Panaracer Pasela TG 32 tyres

    Still need to cut the steerer tube!
    Nice build.
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    Finally got mine today, went with the 55cm, I think it should fit. I will post pictures once the frame saver sets up and I get it all together.

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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/25746419@N04/4388457717/" title="DSC02908 by alexmurdock42, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4388457717_485d3c22a7.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="DSC02908" /></a>

    I'm a late convert to the single speed scene. This will be my winter training bike while the snow is still flying (I'm looking at another month of that in upstate NY). I might convert it to a 1x9 later. I've got to say, this thing is a tank. The Delgado rims are 515 grams! I could put regular wheels on with a 9 speed cassette and it probably wouldn't add any weight.

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    I just picked up my casseroll SS today. Very nice bike and I love the geometry and riding position. I noticed the acceleration isn't quite as snappy as I expected - 515g rims will do that! However it will very forgiving.
    The twenty-nine inch wheel.

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    While I love my Casseroll, nothing about it is snappy. The bike is a tank.

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    I like my Casseroll too. I like the fact you can ride in to potholes and off kerbs without feeling a thing. Of course, this means when you stamp on the gas ...errr... nothing happens. TBH - mine's lovely, but it goes like a barge towing several anchors. If I want to go anywhere fast I'll take the carbon bike.

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    It's my first 'roadie' so I'm enjoying the easy rolling, but my brothers Kona Band Wagon is noticeably quicker - even though it retails for the same amount.
    Nice to have Salsa branded components.
    The shimano brakes on the Band Wagon are much more powerful than the tektro brakes on the Casseroll.
    I was pleasantly suprised to find my bike came with the matching cromoto stem, but aren't these affected by the recall? Are they really a risk on a road bike?
    The twenty-nine inch wheel.

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    I would get on the Salsa website and contact them. I don't know if they made any more color-matched stems after the recall. More recent bikes had non-Salsa stems. I know they had to open the boxes and swap out the bad ones. It could be they missed one. They will probably need the serial number of the bike.

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    My Casseroll

    For those of you who want to see another standard casseroll, here it is.
    Loving the bike though as others have said it really is a tank.
    New wheels at some point perhaps.
    My brothers Band Wagon is the other bike.
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    The Salsa Casseroll thread-p1010272.jpg  

    Last edited by Hud; 03-03-2010 at 12:39 PM.
    The twenty-nine inch wheel.

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    Hi,
    I got my Casseroll SS for Christmas but only started riding it last Thursday because of the extra long winter and because it looks cool sitting here beside my computer. I have a cross bike for the road and a hybrid ( both Specialized) which are a lot of fun, but I don't see them getting any action any time soon. I am hooked. It is flat where I live and ride and I wish I had gone single speed a long time ago. I may sell my Tricross and pick up another Casseroll. It is awesome. Very comfy, and way faster than my other bikes. If there is anyone out thinking about buying one and you have the space and means, you have to do it.
    Have fun.

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