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    Salsa Beargrease is here on Friday!!!

    We just got notice of five Beargrease X9's coming in this week!!! Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyonthemadone View Post
    We just got notice of five Beargrease X9's coming in this week!!! Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    What size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjclutt View Post
    What size?
    I bet they are not XL's
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    Just saw on Facebook that Cycle Haven is getting their XL Beargrease shipment in on Monday...Looks like one available that is not pre-sold...

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    I bet they are not XL's

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    Yeah, sorry all medium frames. Looks like early next week, they shipped from Minnesota today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyonthemadone View Post
    Yeah, sorry all medium frames. Looks like early next week, they shipped from Minnesota today.
    You know, I understand that most buyers are going to be on mediums & large's. But good God, no XL's at all yet? We tall folks have money to spend as well! Wish the hell Salsa would get my bike to me.
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    I rode one a few days ago and loved it. My LBS said that the XLs were on back order till January

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    Quote Originally Posted by onepivot View Post
    You know, I understand that most buyers are going to be on mediums & large's. But good God, no XL's at all yet? We tall folks have money to spend as well! Wish the hell Salsa would get my bike to me.
    I hear ya brother. the payoff is coming.....

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    Are these pre-ordered bikes or do you think some of these will actually hit showroom floors for random sale?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Are these pre-ordered bikes or do you think some of these will actually hit showroom floors for random sale?
    My XL XX1 build is a pre-order. They damn well better not be back ordered.
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    I was just wondering if there will be extra BG's beyond the pre-ordered ones that will be available now or is it 100% pre-orders?
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    If you pre-ordered one, you will be fine. If not, there are going to be shortages on those extras. That is just my educated guess.


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    Well my shop got in an XL X9 build and I went for it. Tired of waiting and the XX1 may not arrive for a few more weeks. Not too disappointed, though, it's a sweet bike either way. I added a few upgrades before it left the shop (SLX brakes, S Works carbon bar & seatpost) Might convert to a 1x10 later on to shed some more weight and will most likely do the tubeless conversion as well. Happy man, I am!
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    You will love your BG X9. Think of the money you saved by going X9! Dang XX1 cassettes are $400 alone.

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    Would someone PLEASE post some pics already! Wish I were getting one

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    Quote Originally Posted by fjtort2 View Post
    You will love your BG X9. Think of the money you saved by going X9! Dang XX1 cassettes are $400 alone.
    I hear ya! I was also having nightmares about ripping off that deraileur as well. I figure if I want to switch to a 1x drivetrain in the future I can do it for less by staying away from XX1, although that's a damn fine drivetrain.
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    Beargrease x9

    Courtesy pic of stock Beargrease from the shop where I work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    Courtesy pic of stock Beargrease from the shop where I work
    I like the black and white colour scheme.
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    I have my medium X9 version built up with the changes being XO Trail brakes and a wider Raceface handlebar. It came out at 29lbs 8 oz with pedals and a computer. Converting to tubeless on Friday! We have four more in boxes ready to build!!


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    Man, this baby handles like a dream!! Much thanks was given for the ability to own such a fine machine. A beautiful day to get in the first ride!

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    Great pics. Thanks for posting up. Makes me want to sell my gen 1 Carver

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    I tend not to like white rims but they really look sharp on the Bear Grease.

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    I almost kept the blue wheels off this years Beargrease, but then when I saw these I changed my mind. They look good. I even kept the white grips!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyonthemadone View Post
    We just got notice of five Beargrease X9's coming in this week!!! Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    Just six weeks behind schedule, what a way to run a business. Looks like some bikes shops have had multiple shipments and others are still waiting.

    Glad you re receiving yours.

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    At least we aren't seeing them in February like last year! Hope yours shows up SOON!

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    On the good side

    My bike (x9) finally came in and it's a great ride, geometry is spot on for me. The frame fork stiffness is immediately noticeable.

    On the bad side

    Bike finish is horrible. Front rim out of round by 5mils. Back rim bead so full of crap that the tire wouldn't seat properly. X9 rear shifter is not indexing properly or there is an alinement problem that we haven't got to the bottom of yet.

    Wouldn't mine knowing what others think of Salsa' QC as I would say this is the worst bike I have every received.

    Don't get me wrong the ride is wonderful and everything is repairable but I expected a better level for this class of bike.

    At this time the only response back from QBP is that the bike mottled finish is normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNBN View Post
    On the good side

    My bike (x9) finally came in and it's a great ride, geometry is spot on for me. The frame fork stiffness is immediately noticeable.

    On the bad side

    Bike finish is horrible. Front rim out of round by 5mils. Back rim bead so full of crap that the tire wouldn't seat properly. X9 rear shifter is not indexing properly or there is an alinement problem that we haven't got to the bottom of yet.

    Wouldn't mine knowing what others think of Salsa' QC as I would say this is the worst bike I have every received.

    Don't get me wrong the ride is wonderful and everything is repairable but I expected a better level for this class of bike.

    At this time the only response back from QBP is that the bike mottled finish is normal.
    I'd check the derailleur hanger. Every new bike I've built (4 or 5?) hasn't been spot on out of the box, so it may be that.

    For the rim, do you mean mils (thousandths of an inch) or are you incorrectly abbreviating millimeters? 5 mils would be about .13mm, which I think would be pretty darn good for a built bicycle wheel.

    I'm curious, what kind of crap is in the bead seat?

    For the finish, look at photos of "UD carbon fiber". If that's the mottled look you are seeing, that sounds about right... It looks mottled under the clearcoat unless its either matte finish or painted. Even under matte it may still be somewhat visible.

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    Yes it could alinement issue, but funny the issue is in the centre three cogs of the rear cassette.

    No thats .2 inches or 5 millimetres, not acceptable on any build.

    Some of the crap was paint that had curdled, other areas had paint that was smeared as if the wheel was partial rolled or pushed before the paint had dried and other areas had some sort of filler that was hard as a rock. I spent two hours grinding out enough to be confident that the bead would lock in place. Spent another hour sanding them up enough to be able to go tubeless. I expect QBP to replace this rim but at this time I don't think my LBS has had a response from them.

    The look I have is as if some one sanded parts of the bike and its small sections all over the frame. The fork has a perfect finish. It most likely was supplied by a different manufacturer?

    just interested if anyone has had the same QC issues or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNBN View Post
    Yes it could alinement issue, but funny the issue is in the centre three cogs of the rear cassette.

    No thats .2 inches or 5 millimetres, not acceptable on any build.

    Some of the crap was paint that had curdled, other areas had paint that was smeared as if the wheel was partial rolled or pushed before the paint had dried and other areas had some sort of filler that was hard as a rock. I spent two hours grinding out enough to be confident that the bead would lock in place. Spent another hour sanding them up enough to be able to go tubeless. I expect QBP to replace this rim but at this time I don't think my LBS has had a response from them.

    The look I have is as if some one sanded parts of the bike and its small sections all over the frame. The fork has a perfect finish. It most likely was supplied by a different manufacturer?

    just interested if anyone has had the same QC issues or not.
    In my (admitted limited) experience, a very slightly bent derailleur hanger manifests as inconsistent shifting across the cassette. Personally, I've just started having problems with the second from top two (not top, though) cogs on my cassette, but I think I've got something in the housing (water?) that is causing it to bind. It's probably due for new cables and housing. You could have a slightly unwound cable...

    That doesn't sound very good about the wheels. :\

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    Thanks for the reply, yes I think the shifting is something simple that needs a little tweak or the the shifter is just off and needs replacement. The bike is great and things will get sorted with a little time but I was a little disappointed with the overall package as it was not the cheapest bike on the market. I'm more interested in if this is more of a one off issue or if the QC is more wide spread. I will check with my LBS tomorrow to see if theres any response from QBP but not holding my breath as they are most likely not working through the holiday.

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    That all sounds like something the shop should have caught when they built the bike.

    Minus the percived finish issue...

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    Out of the eight BG that I have built this month, none of them had ANY of these issues. Sounds like a fluke. Stay on your shop to get QBP to take care of this for you.


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    The bikes comes in 95% built.
    Not sure how many bike shops check new wheels for been out of round before sending them out?
    The bead locks been full of crap would have been impossible to see. Glad I was going tubeless right away as I think I would have blown a tire while riding otherwise.
    Gave the derailleur hanger a little tweak today and will see if it eliminates the problem? It appears that it may have been out enough to be the issue.
    The finish of the bike does not effect the performance in any way but you would think if they wanted the mottled look for the bike the fork would have been finished the same?
    No response from others, so as I thought this is most likely a unique situation and 99% of the bikes are mostly delivered without issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyonthemadone View Post
    Out of the eight BG that I have built this month, none of them had ANY of these issues. Sounds like a fluke. Stay on your shop to get QBP to take care of this for you.


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    This interesting, are you saying that none of them had the mottled frame appearance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNBN View Post
    The bikes comes in 95% built.
    Not sure how many bike shops check new wheels for been out of round before sending them out?

    Haha, no they don't. Also, every shop should true the ****ing wheels on every bike they build. That's like Barnetts 101 right there. Jeez.

    Don't give your shop a pass on lousy assembly, especially on a $3500 bike.

    EDIT: Hate to break it to you, but you are not going to get a new rim after sanding and grinding it. Did you take pictures of it before you "fixed" it or anything? That's your best bet at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNBN View Post
    This interesting, are you saying that none of them had the mottled frame appearance.
    Not a one, and no complaints after from the buyers so far either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancake Adventure View Post
    Haha, no they don't. Also, every shop should true the ****ing wheels on every bike they build. That's like Barnetts 101 right there. Jeez.
    My shop does this. They also check the tightness/ looseness of the hubs. I know because I've watched them do it even on $500 bikes. Oh, and the shop owner is a Barnetts grad
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    My Beargrease (purchased near Thanksgiving) was perfect. No visible QC issues and no special order was required. Ordered a Medium and three days later paid the balance and picked it up.

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    I've been umming and ahhing about one of these since the original aluminium Beargrease came out last year... Now I've bitten the bullet and gone for one.

    The sheer scale of the frame is hilarious - the downtube is the width of a crud catcher. It looks fantastic!

    It's at 28lbs as it is. The standard spec is good, but I've tweaked it with making the tyres tubeless, some USE carbon bars and seatpost, 1x10 with a RaceFace narrow/wide ring and some bargaintastic Deore discs from Merlin. These must be the bargain of the decade - they are the same as XT (without the adjustment dial that I don't use anyway) but only £80 the pair.




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