You know, I understand that most buyers are going to be on mediums & large's. But good God, no XL's at all yet? We tall folks have money to spend as well! Wish the hell Salsa would get my bike to me.
Well my shop got in an XL X9 build and I went for it. Tired of waiting and the XX1 may not arrive for a few more weeks. Not too disappointed, though, it's a sweet bike either way. I added a few upgrades before it left the shop (SLX brakes, S Works carbon bar & seatpost) Might convert to a 1x10 later on to shed some more weight and will most likely do the tubeless conversion as well. Happy man, I am!
I hear ya! I was also having nightmares about ripping off that deraileur as well. I figure if I want to switch to a 1x drivetrain in the future I can do it for less by staying away from XX1, although that's a damn fine drivetrain.
I have my medium X9 version built up with the changes being XO Trail brakes and a wider Raceface handlebar. It came out at 29lbs 8 oz with pedals and a computer. Converting to tubeless on Friday! We have four more in boxes ready to build!!
My bike (x9) finally came in and it's a great ride, geometry is spot on for me. The frame fork stiffness is immediately noticeable.
On the bad side
Bike finish is horrible. Front rim out of round by 5mils. Back rim bead so full of crap that the tire wouldn't seat properly. X9 rear shifter is not indexing properly or there is an alinement problem that we haven't got to the bottom of yet.
Wouldn't mine knowing what others think of Salsa' QC as I would say this is the worst bike I have every received.
Don't get me wrong the ride is wonderful and everything is repairable but I expected a better level for this class of bike.
At this time the only response back from QBP is that the bike mottled finish is normal.
My bike (x9) finally came in and it's a great ride, geometry is spot on for me. The frame fork stiffness is immediately noticeable.
On the bad side
Bike finish is horrible. Front rim out of round by 5mils. Back rim bead so full of crap that the tire wouldn't seat properly. X9 rear shifter is not indexing properly or there is an alinement problem that we haven't got to the bottom of yet.
Wouldn't mine knowing what others think of Salsa' QC as I would say this is the worst bike I have every received.
Don't get me wrong the ride is wonderful and everything is repairable but I expected a better level for this class of bike.
At this time the only response back from QBP is that the bike mottled finish is normal.
I'd check the derailleur hanger. Every new bike I've built (4 or 5?) hasn't been spot on out of the box, so it may be that.
For the rim, do you mean mils (thousandths of an inch) or are you incorrectly abbreviating millimeters? 5 mils would be about .13mm, which I think would be pretty darn good for a built bicycle wheel.
I'm curious, what kind of crap is in the bead seat?
For the finish, look at photos of "UD carbon fiber". If that's the mottled look you are seeing, that sounds about right... It looks mottled under the clearcoat unless its either matte finish or painted. Even under matte it may still be somewhat visible.
Yes it could alinement issue, but funny the issue is in the centre three cogs of the rear cassette.
No thats .2 inches or 5 millimetres, not acceptable on any build.
Some of the crap was paint that had curdled, other areas had paint that was smeared as if the wheel was partial rolled or pushed before the paint had dried and other areas had some sort of filler that was hard as a rock. I spent two hours grinding out enough to be confident that the bead would lock in place. Spent another hour sanding them up enough to be able to go tubeless. I expect QBP to replace this rim but at this time I don't think my LBS has had a response from them.
The look I have is as if some one sanded parts of the bike and its small sections all over the frame. The fork has a perfect finish. It most likely was supplied by a different manufacturer?
just interested if anyone has had the same QC issues or not.
Yes it could alinement issue, but funny the issue is in the centre three cogs of the rear cassette.
No thats .2 inches or 5 millimetres, not acceptable on any build.
Some of the crap was paint that had curdled, other areas had paint that was smeared as if the wheel was partial rolled or pushed before the paint had dried and other areas had some sort of filler that was hard as a rock. I spent two hours grinding out enough to be confident that the bead would lock in place. Spent another hour sanding them up enough to be able to go tubeless. I expect QBP to replace this rim but at this time I don't think my LBS has had a response from them.
The look I have is as if some one sanded parts of the bike and its small sections all over the frame. The fork has a perfect finish. It most likely was supplied by a different manufacturer?
just interested if anyone has had the same QC issues or not.
In my (admitted limited) experience, a very slightly bent derailleur hanger manifests as inconsistent shifting across the cassette. Personally, I've just started having problems with the second from top two (not top, though) cogs on my cassette, but I think I've got something in the housing (water?) that is causing it to bind. It's probably due for new cables and housing. You could have a slightly unwound cable...
Thanks for the reply, yes I think the shifting is something simple that needs a little tweak or the the shifter is just off and needs replacement. The bike is great and things will get sorted with a little time but I was a little disappointed with the overall package as it was not the cheapest bike on the market. I'm more interested in if this is more of a one off issue or if the QC is more wide spread. I will check with my LBS tomorrow to see if theres any response from QBP but not holding my breath as they are most likely not working through the holiday.
Out of the eight BG that I have built this month, none of them had ANY of these issues. Sounds like a fluke. Stay on your shop to get QBP to take care of this for you.
Out of the eight BG that I have built this month, none of them had ANY of these issues. Sounds like a fluke. Stay on your shop to get QBP to take care of this for you.
The bikes comes in 95% built.
Not sure how many bike shops check new wheels for been out of round before sending them out?
The bead locks been full of crap would have been impossible to see. Glad I was going tubeless right away as I think I would have blown a tire while riding otherwise.
Gave the derailleur hanger a little tweak today and will see if it eliminates the problem? It appears that it may have been out enough to be the issue.
The finish of the bike does not effect the performance in any way but you would think if they wanted the mottled look for the bike the fork would have been finished the same?
No response from others, so as I thought this is most likely a unique situation and 99% of the bikes are mostly delivered without issues.
Haha, no they don't. Also, every shop should true the ****ing wheels on every bike they build. That's like Barnetts 101 right there. Jeez.
Don't give your shop a pass on lousy assembly, especially on a $3500 bike.
EDIT: Hate to break it to you, but you are not going to get a new rim after sanding and grinding it. Did you take pictures of it before you "fixed" it or anything? That's your best bet at this point.
My Beargrease (purchased near Thanksgiving) was perfect. No visible QC issues and no special order was required. Ordered a Medium and three days later paid the balance and picked it up.
I've been umming and ahhing about one of these since the original aluminium Beargrease came out last year... Now I've bitten the bullet and gone for one.
The sheer scale of the frame is hilarious - the downtube is the width of a crud catcher. It looks fantastic!
It's at 28lbs as it is. The standard spec is good, but I've tweaked it with making the tyres tubeless, some USE carbon bars and seatpost, 1x10 with a RaceFace narrow/wide ring and some bargaintastic Deore discs from Merlin. These must be the bargain of the decade - they are the same as XT (without the adjustment dial that I don't use anyway) but only £80 the pair.
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