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    Rear derailleur problems

    anyone else having problems with their rear derailleur on the spearfish?

    I'm running x9 and have tried two different rear derailleurs. I'm just starting to wonder if the frame is out of alignment?

    I have a dos niner that I can put the derailleur on and the wheels. it just looks like the spacing is different between the two.

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    No problems on my Superfish. I follow a lot of spearfish threads...haven't seen this issue. Check the derailleur hanger alignment?

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    Hanger alignment, and sometimes the cassette to dropout spacing might be too close. A washer can shim that clearance a bit to put it back in range of the derailleur.

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    Thanks, I've not seen any either. with the back wheel on the spacing just does not look right but it's fine on the dos.hanger looks straight as an arrow.

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    It needs to have the alignment checked, eyeballing it is sometimes not enough. Hit up your local shop and have it checked!



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    What is the "problem" that you are experiencing? No symptoms listed that might be related to the adjustment(s) or the mix of components? Sometimes pieces that run fine on one frame may be a bit off on another, and adjustment basis might be different. Sometimes derailleurs have issues at their extreme high or extreme low position. If you are near these points on either the high or the low, and the derailleur is brand new, it could be that it has to "bed in" a little bit - esp on the small-cog end... Hanger has to be straight not only in a "bent in-or-out" fashion, but also "twist". Lots of little things that can cause problems.
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    The derailleur is not hitting the high gear, and just seems to never set. just does not matter how much I tweak it. dropping all the way down I have the limit screw all out. I'll get the hanger checked, thanks.

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    My hanger was bent right out if the box. Lots of shifting woes, before I manned up and bought a new hanger. Problem solved! Even if yours isn't bent, its nice to have a spare!

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    When I bought mine from a LBS they had to replace the cassette since it was removed to fix someone's bike and it was on backorder. It did take them a little bit to get it spaced correctly. After my cables stretched a bit they readjusted everything for me and no problems.
    My LBS will make any adjustments for me for FREE.
    That is something to be said for Brick and Mortar shops.
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    It's still better to know how to do all that your self. No down time for minor adjustments, no walking out of the woods for a minor mechanical. Get the Big Blue Book from Park Tools or check out their website!

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    My Fargo's X9 rear had the same issue. Ended up being the hanger needed tweaked a bit. You can tweak it with a crescent wrench if need be if you don't have an alignment tool. It probably needs to be moved to the outside just a bit and the barrel tension adjusted just a tad in. The slightest adjustment in the hanger makes a huge difference especially on the 10 speeds.

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    Thanks for all the replies and the hanger need a tweak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trailfreak View Post
    Thanks for all the replies and the hanger need a tweak.
    I personally feel that the Park DAG-2 is one specialized tool that every more-serious home mechanic should have. Lots of weird, occasional shifting problems can be corrected by being sure the derailleur hanger is spot on.

    For example, my Mukluk 2 was sounding like it was going to ghost shift and occasionally making a popping noise when in the second to largest cog on the cassette. The derailleur hanger was just slightly off (pointer was 5mm off at the front and top) due to a couple recent falls. Straightened it out, things are good as new.

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    OE hangers are week.

    Thought I might add a tid bit here. My wife and I both have Spearfish and both have had derailleur hanger issues. I own a Parktool alignment tool, so it was a problem that I could take care of at home, but the problem happened quite frequently and even with a fresh adjustment the shifting was lack luster. The OE hanger is seemed really weak and the solution was to buy a hanger made from a sturdier material (I think it was DerailleurHanger.com). The new hanger really does make the shifting much crisper. If your problem persists, you may want to give one a try.

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    I can't speak to the standard dropout, but the deraileur hanger on the 12mm Maxle Spearfish is poorly designed. 2 tiny flathead screws overconstrain the location, but are also structurally very weak - bear in mind the hanger is also the thread for the Maxle - therefore all twisting forces on the wheel go thru these tiny screws. I had brake rotor alignment problems due to loose screws as received from shop. SALSA - Design needs to be improved!

    To to OP - If you have not done so, be sure to check torque on those 2 screws (if you have the 12mm Spearfish).
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    Hanger. I replaced mine with one from wheels mfg. It appears to be a little beefier than the stock hanger.

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    Aren't Wheels Mfg. and Salsa under the same parent Co.? I just assumed it was the same part.

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    Here's my bent stock hanger

    and the wheels mfg 142 that replaced it

    The wheels has an etched name and more machined feel

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