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    Pictures of / Experience with El Mariachi w/ 142x12 Dropouts?

    Does anyone have any photos of an El Mariachi with the 142x12 Alternator dropouts installed? I picked up a set of the dropouts (QBP #FS1330) for an El Mariachi Ti on order, but I'd like to see how it all looks once together.

    Can any of you share experiences with this as well? I'm trying to decide if I should stick with the stock wheelset as it comes, or replace the rear hub with a 142x12.

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    I'm interested too. And has anyone modified them for SS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by adinpapa View Post
    I'm interested too. And has anyone modified them for SS?
    They'll be exactly the same as SS, just with no derailleur hanging on them.

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    Couldn't you cut off the hanger nub for cleaner set up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by adinpapa View Post
    Couldn't you cut off the hanger nub for cleaner set up?
    Sure, or you could buy the SS-specific drive side swing plate. I wouldn't cut it, though, as that significantly decreases your options.

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    That's the thing...there isn't any 142x12 SS swing plate...only the one with the hanger
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    Quote Originally Posted by adinpapa View Post
    That's the thing...there isn't any 142x12 SS swing plate...only the one with the hanger
    Very true, but do you really want to be grinding on such an expensive part? I don't think the El Mariachi looks bad with the little tab of hanger dangling down, myself...

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    Do the 142x12 plates come with the maxle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sven98 View Post
    Do the 142x12 plates come with the maxle?
    Yep, it does. I have on here, but haven't opened the package from QBP yet. It's a set of swing plates, Rock Shox-branded maxle, etc.

    Maybe I'll open it up and take a series of photos of it this evening.

    I just don't have a wheel to use it with, which is why I'm curious about other's experiences with it.

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    I thought about doing this on my El mar as I have hope hubs and can easily convert the hubs to 142X12. Im just wondering if its a worthwhile upgrade. My 250 lbs ass was breaking the stock formula cartridge bearings which is why I went with Hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sven98 View Post
    I thought about doing this on my El mar as I have hope hubs and can easily convert the hubs to 142X12. Im just wondering if its a worthwhile upgrade. My 250 lbs ass was breaking the stock formula cartridge bearings which is why I went with Hope.
    I don't think it'd hurt... I was just wanting to do it for ease of aligning the rear wheel and maybe stiffening up the rear end. Not that it's floppy to begin with, though... Maybe it's just upgradeitis.

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    Anyone want photos of the 12x142 dropout kit, QBP #FS1330? If so, I posted a bunch of them here.

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    Nice. Lets see some pics when those bad larrys get mounted. A nice upgrade for sure... If weight increase isnt steep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adinpapa View Post
    Nice. Lets see some pics when those bad larrys get mounted. A nice upgrade for sure... If weight increase isnt steep.
    That'll unfortunately be waiting until I get the appropriate wheelset. I've got a complete El Mariachi Ti on the way, and I'll probably stick with those wheels for a while.

    Regarding weight, from what I can feel the swing plates are lighter, and I'd guess that the Maxle is similar in weight to a QR + normal axle, or maybe a bit less. So it may even be a weight savings.

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    bump. c0nsumer... you get the 142x12 mounted yet ?
    I'm getting some new CK hubs and thinking of investing in my future and upgrading my stock alternators. I'll probably cut off the hanger to run SS (after checking with salsa)
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    Any news on this?

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    I've got the hangers, I don't have any appropriate hubs so I'm not using them.

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    Why did you buy the 142x12 dropouts if you didn't have the hubs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by willapajames View Post
    Why did you buy the 142x12 dropouts if you didn't have the hubs?
    Because it was easiest to order them with the bike, so if/when I do get a set of wheels I can swap them on and not wait for them to ship.

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    Has nobody else done this? I am thinking of converting my Stans 3.30 to 142 x 12 on my El Mar 2012 (Jungle Fever Green) and I'm wondering if it's worth it. I would also like to know about the weight difference if there is any.

    Thanks

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    Pictures of / Experience with El Mariachi w/ 142x12 Dropouts?

    Lets see some pics and get some weights!

    Is the finish quality nicer than the stock Alternator?
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    Quote Originally Posted by adinpapa View Post
    Lets see some pics and get some weights!

    Is the finish quality nicer than the stock Alternator?
    Read the thread. One of my previous posts has a link to photos of them.

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    Anyone got any experience of these in use/photos of them on a bike?

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    Pictures of / Experience with El Mariachi w/ 142x12 Dropouts?

    Spoke to a Salsa employee last year who said that they were changing manufacturers on these. The old model was discontinued and a new model would be out late 2013/early 2014. That said, Cambria was selling them as recently as yesterday according to their website. I meant to call them to be sure they actually had any in stock but forgot.


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    Now, *that's* interesting. I wonder if they'll use the same TA as the Surly MDS?

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    Christmassy bump

    Anyone laid hands/eyes on the new Alternators (which I gather are forged rather than machined), and know what the part no. is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratherbeintobago View Post
    Christmassy bump

    Anyone laid hands/eyes on the new Alternators (which I gather are forged rather than machined), and know what the part no. is?
    Bump and FS1370.

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    I've got the 12x142 Alternators on my 2014 Ti Mar. I'm running a 1x11 setup and have only had them slip once. That was the first ride after picking it up from the LBS.

    Since then I have torqued them down to spec, checked them after the first 5 or so rides, and they have been solid. I've never been a fan of 'sliding' dropouts, but these have worked well.

    I appreciate the additional stiffness with the 12x142 and I will be running this bike single speed for certain races, and I won't bother with a specific single speed Alternator dropout. The derailleur hanger doesn't bother me.

    Since I'm running geared, I have the dropouts pushed all the way forward. I've not, and I'm curious of how the setup will be when running single speed.

    Pics to come.
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    I finally decided to put syntace w 35 mx wheels on my rigid ss el mariachi. So I thought why not to go 142x12? It feels like now the bike has more stiffness in the rear triangle.

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    Since salsa 142x12 alternator plates were out of stock I decided to frankenstein a setup using a set of 177x12 (fat bike) alternator plates with the axle machined down to work with the 142 spacing.

    Enjoy.
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