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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerdog
    Looks great ryball.

    What is that rear rack you're using? Any idea on the load capacity?
    It's the Axiom Streamliner Road DLX. I like it a lot. It has a very narrow top that cant's the panniers in and the mounting method moves them back a lot so there isn't heel clearance issues. Load capacity is supposed to be 110lbs. but I don't ever see myself carrying that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryball
    It's the Axiom Streamliner Road DLX. I like it a lot. It has a very narrow top that cant's the panniers in and the mounting method moves them back a lot so there isn't heel clearance issues. Load capacity is supposed to be 110lbs. but I don't ever see myself carrying that much.

    http://www.axiomgear.com/products/ge...iner-road-dlx/
    Excellent, thanks. My one worry with the Cruz was the location of the disc caliper. This rack seems to solve that.

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    Does anybody know wether I can fit a 1.75 (47-622) tyre in the La Cruz, Schwalbe has a Smart Sam 28x1.75 in their offering now. What will be the fatest tyre you made work in this frame? I am looking for more comfort or MTB abilities. At the moment I am running Smart Sams in 1.4.

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    I read your post and rememberd that the last race I did on my 29`er was with a Schwalbe furious fred on the rear.

    I normaly only run racing ralph, but I heard that there was quite a bit of gravel and just bought one for the rear.

    Obviously I ran down in the garage to see what it looked like.

    Well the verdict is, I`m pretty sure you should be able to fit a 1.75 because this furious fred is 622-50, or in old money, 2.0.

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    Its tight, and I would expect some tyre buzz out on the trial but I would hazzard a guess that 1.75 should be fine.

    Now thats what I call monster cross!

    Oh, the wheel span freely and I gave it a run round the block for fun and it didnt rub. I bet it would rub with some dirt in there though.

    Pretty cool.

    Oh, the rim is a stans ztr 355. Rim choice has got a part to play in it too.
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    Well thanks, I have DT TK7.1d which are wider, so maybe the tyre will be flatter then. I will give it a try.

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    Post some pics if you give it a try!
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    please stop posting La Cruz in this forum, its killing me....as I'm tempted to get a frameset as the prices at the moment is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnifex
    Does anybody know wether I can fit a 1.75 (47-622) tyre in the La Cruz, Schwalbe has a Smart Sam 28x1.75 in their offering now. What will be the fatest tyre you made work in this frame? I am looking for more comfort or MTB abilities. At the moment I am running Smart Sams in 1.4.
    Where are you seeing the 47-622 Smart Sam? Is it out yet?

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    I just ordered it through ebay.de.

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    The tires were delivered today. On my DT TK 7.1d at 4 bar they are 43mm wide without knobs and 45.5mm with knobs.

    The first total view shows the difference, back is the new 47 SS front is the 37 SS. They look like fat and slim.

    The secondtotal is the both tires changed. Front is enough space to mount even 2.0 to 2.1" tires, back wonīt allow for a wider tire.

    I didnīt bother cleaning the bike, as this is meant for dirty expeditions.

    Ehm, yeah, another update from this week is the Limited Edition Brooks Swift saddle in Mandarin Orange.
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    Looks great!!!

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    Totaly agree!

    That is cool, love the brooks too. Shame I didnt see those smart sam`s earlier because I am going out in the garage now to fit my studded tyres

    -3 C on the way to work this morning, that means another 5-6 months slugging a couple of kilo`s of rubber around...
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    Thanks. Actually, I donīt know when they came out. When I was browsing for Smart Sams a few weeks back I only saw the 42. The 47 are shown as being 2010 tires at one of my local online-shops.

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    I'm in the [lengthy] process of acquiring a La Cruz, and I was planning on using it quite extensively this winter...would a full-size fender fit over a 700x42 studded tire? I don't want to jump on wider studded tires if they aren't going to fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollyisk
    I'm in the [lengthy] process of acquiring a La Cruz, and I was planning on using it quite extensively this winter...would a full-size fender fit over a 700x42 studded tire? I don't want to jump on wider studded tires if they aren't going to fit.
    Maybe in the back, but I don't think there's any way it would fit in the front.

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    How do like the Smart Sams Carnifex?, any experience in the snow??

    Found some in 40c

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollyisk
    I'm in the [lengthy] process of acquiring a La Cruz, and I was planning on using it quite extensively this winter...would a full-size fender fit over a 700x42 studded tire? I don't want to jump on wider studded tires if they aren't going to fit.
    I have casadila 29`er mudguards covering schwalbe marathon winters in 700-42 without any probs.

    Its a tight fit in the frame, so use some protective tape before you fit them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fux
    I have casadila 29`er mudguards covering schwalbe marathon winters in 700-42 without any probs.

    Its a tight fit in the frame, so use some protective tape before you fit them.
    How tight are we talking here? I weigh roughly 250 pounds, and I don't want to chip up the fork with studs when rolling over a pothole or something. If there are only millimeters of clearance, I think I'll have to try to find nice 700x35.

    Thanks for the responses!

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    The tyres arnt a tight fit, the mudguards are.
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    Carnifex, what crank/bash guard is that?

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    The crank is a standard Shimano 105 triple octalink, with the middle ring mounted. The Bashguard was made by a local rider, who had a laser cutting device at hand and just did a few for himself and others.

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    Does your friend want to make any more?! That's seriously one of the classiest looking bashguards I've seen...

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    Hi, it was not a friend of mine, actually he had only a few left a year ago. Maybe I send him a PM if he still has one. and yes, I like it very much too, that was the reason for buying it of course.

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    Here is my La Cruz out in the freezing cold during my commute home.

    The vid is poorly clipped, but I think you get the idea of what the lacruz is best at, although I have a dodgy moment near the end of the film when I hit some loose snow.

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    I am so bummed that I did not get one of these when they were available...
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    Quote Originally Posted by silent713
    I am so bummed that I did not get one of these when they were available...
    When what were available?

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    The bikes...
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    They're not available anymore?

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    Nope, not really. Salsa discontinued the model for the 2010 line. There are probably a few still out there for sale, but I can't seem to find one in the size I would need; 51cm.
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    Where the hell have I been? :P

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    Well, next week I will be the proud owner of a new (to me) La Cruz. Very excited. I've wanted one of these for a long time now!

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    My La Cruz commuter.




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    Nice ride, what size are those Smart Sams and how's the clearance?

    I recently put on a new wheelset with some Bontrager XDX 1.75's and they are tight, little rub on the front now that the wheels have settled in, any wobble and they rub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Nice ride, what size are those Smart Sams and how's the clearance?

    I recently put on a new wheelset with some Bontrager XDX 1.75's and they are tight, little rub on the front now that the wheels have settled in, any wobble and they rub.
    I believe the same, 1.75. clearance is tight. I'll try to take some pics later...

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    I am now a La Cruz owner.



    Lots of room with the studdlies:



    Fenders go on next.

    Wish my Ti Post matched better. Oh well.

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    Excellent!

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    Yessir. This thing rocks.

    Of course now I want to build/get myself a really lightweight set of wheels for road riding. It came with some 700x32c Specialized road tires (which look HUGE on the Delgados).

    Anybody build/buy a reasonably priced 1600 gram skinny rimmed wheelset for their La Cruz yet?

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    Anybody else have REALLY tight seatpost fitment on their La Cruz? Both the Kalloy that it came with and my Eriksen Ti post are really freaking snug.

    got my fenders on this morning. I omitted one of the stays on the disk caliper side - as I wasn't sure how to mount it. Using one of the caliper mounts seemed like not the best idea. However between the chainstay bridge, seatstay bridge, 2-stays on the drive side and the 1 stay on the disk side, it seems to be fairly well anchored. If only the asymmetry didn't bother me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatchanceti
    got my fenders on this morning. I omitted one of the stays on the disk caliper side - as I wasn't sure how to mount it. Using one of the caliper mounts seemed like not the best idea. However between the chainstay bridge, seatstay bridge, 2-stays on the drive side and the 1 stay on the disk side, it seems to be fairly well anchored. If only the asymmetry didn't bother me.
    Which fenders? Pictures might make it easier for us to help with stay placement. You should just be able to bend the stay that you didn't think would fit to clear whatever is blocking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rroeder
    Nice ride, what size are those Smart Sams and how's the clearance?

    I recently put on a new wheelset with some Bontrager XDX 1.75's and they are tight, little rub on the front now that the wheels have settled in, any wobble and they rub.
    Yeah, I tried a pair of the old Jones Dry X's in that same size and they were too tight for comfort.

    Fatties for the La Cruz

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    Planet Bike Hardcore Hybrid I believe. I thought about bending the stay around the caliper, but wasn't sure it'd be long enough if I did that.

    I didn't spend a ton of time on it, so maybe I'll revisit it tonight. Although with the orange/silver theme I have, a set of silver fenders would look much "less worse" than the black I currently own.

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    You need the spacers in this kit, or make some from tubing. If you look close you can see it in this picture.
    http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7027_2.html
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    Lawyer tabs

    Ok, so after a few weeks of living with this thing, the HUGE lawyer tabs on the front fork have to go. Has anybody else done the nasty with a file/dremel yet? If so, did you put any sort of protective finish on the filed off area when you were done?

    What are the fork drops made of - just polished steel?

    Final build pics of my ebay find La Cruz soon. Mine has been converted to 1x9 with N-gear and BBG bits. Still keeping the orange/silver theme, which is damn tough these days. Picked up a 110th anniversary brown Flite, and some sort of matching bar tape (Salsa brown cork) to finish it off.

    I have a few 30 mile rides on the bike and I'm really digging it so far. Mine came with 700x32c Spec. All conditions slicks - which are a complete blast to ride. Really nice mix of low rolling resistance and balloon like steamroller action.

    My current wheel set is the pretty standard XT hubs with Delgado Race disk wheels. Nice and wide, but overbuilt for most of what I do. I would eventually like something lighter. Perhaps with the new CX regulations we'll see some decently affordable/sorta light new wheel builds based more on disk CX/road needs than pared down 29er stuff.

    FCTi

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    Couple of final pictures of my baby all commutered out before I tear her down. As close to my idea of perfect as I could get with this frame.
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    RE: Lawyer tabs

    Quote Originally Posted by fatchanceti
    Ok, so after a few weeks of living with this thing, the HUGE lawyer tabs on the front fork have to go...
    While I am all for your right to remove the tabs, I recommend against it. The La Cruz fork has traditional downward facing dropouts and with the positioning of the disc brake, if you remove the tabs it is prone to front wheel ejection. Even an adequately tightened QR can work loose and be ejected.

    You'll notice that most recent forks with non-thru-axle dropouts have forward facing dropouts to reduce the risk of the wheel being ejected by braking torque.

    It isn't the easiest to see, but check the new La Cruz disk fork

    Most likely your La Cruz has the old-style down/slightly rear facing dropouts.
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    Well, getting close.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/5566970734/" title="DSCF0913 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/5566970734_3c834789ea_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="DSCF0913" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/5566394079/" title="DSCF0923 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5107/5566394079_6d33635191_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="DSCF0923" /></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rmplum/5566973142/" title="DSCF0924 by rmplum, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5106/5566973142_3f81d94154_b.jpg" width="1024" height="768" alt="DSCF0924" /></a>

    Still not 100% sure what I'm gonna do with bars. I also have a set of Woodchippers, there are aspects of both I like. The current bars don't have any flare, which I've become accustom to, the Woodchippers are pretty extreme there, and the hook is a bit tight. My ideal bar might be the Bell Lap, but without the "ergo" shaping. May try some FSA Omega's next, we'll see.

    Keeping the silver theme is tough these days. I need to "fade" the bar tape about 1.2 a shade to match the saddle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irrah
    No problem !
    Here is my little different La Cruz build :

    Specs please!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mummer43
    Specs please!!
    Hmm..

    Frame and fork - Salsa La Cruz, powder coated
    Chainset - Shimano Alfine FC-S500
    Wheels:
    Front - Shimano Alfine DH-S501 hub-dynamo/ Mavic A317 Disc rim.
    Rear - Shimano Alfine SG-S501 8 speed hub/ Mavic TN 719 Disc rim.
    Tyres - Schwalbe Marathon Extreme 35c
    Brakes & levers - Shimano Alfine hydr
    Handlebar - On-One Fleegle
    Stem - oxygen ??
    Headset - Cane Creek S3
    Seatpost - Ritchey Comp
    Saddle - Brooks B17 (skirts trimmed)
    Pedals - Welgo
    Rear rack - Tubus Vega
    Fenders - SKS Chromoplastics P45
    Front light - B&M Cyo
    Lock - Abus Bordo

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    paid Spam, mine is on the market...

    http://classifieds.roadbikereview.co...?product=25259

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatchanceti View Post
    paid Spam, mine is on the market...

    http://classifieds.roadbikereview.co...?product=25259
    You decide to sell this right when I am about to buy a house? Yeesh!! I've wanted one of these for years!
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