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Looking to get a Vaya
Having owned a Karate Monkey and road bikes, I reckon the Vaya is The One since it seems to split the difference between the two. I like the longer HT and livelier feel than the Long Haul Trucker, so here we go...
1) What's the best online source for Vaya framesets? I didn't see any on Universal Cycles or Jenson USA...
2) I want a brifter / drop bar setup and notice almost all the Vaya builds in that thread have SRAM brifters. Is there any reason for this, like does SRAM have more cable pull than Campy/Shimano to run discs?
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I would guess that most people go with SRAM due to the compatibility between SRAM road and mountain bike components. SRAM road brifters can be used with SRAM mountain bike rear/front derailleurs. That allows easy use of 11-32 or 11-36 10-speed rear cassettes as well as wide-range 2x front chain rings. Trying to get Shimano road/mountain components working together is more difficult. The ability to use mountain bike components with SRAM drop-bar brifters allows for wider gear ranges than most road-specific setups - and a multi-purpose bike like the Vaya can often use the flexibility.
If you are are fine with the gearing provided by shimano road-only components, then I would say the choice between SRAM and Shimano is more personal preference.
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Appreciate the reply, and it makes a lot of sense.
Does the SRAM road/mountain compatibility extend to SRAM 9 speed?
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I built my Vaya up on my own and used Shimano. Just my preference. Used 105 brifters with 105 derailuer up front and an XT on the rear. 10-speed setup with a 105 compact crankset/chainrings, XT 11-36 10speed casette and an XT chain. All of it works great together.
I think Vaya's are impossible to find at the moment becuase they have all been sold. try to email Salsa. They helped me track one down a couple of years ago.
I ride at ludicrous speed
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I built mine up with 105/Ultegra. I'm running a triple in front. My Vaya doubles as a commuter/touring bike. The 105 brifters work ok with the road bb7 but I do believe my buddy's SRAM levers work better.
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Salsa has stopped allowing dealers to sell the complete bikes online I think with the 2014 bikes. I am not sure if they still allow the frames to be sold online.
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 Originally Posted by VeloCruzer
Appreciate the reply, and it makes a lot of sense.
Does the SRAM road/mountain compatibility extend to SRAM 9 speed?
SRAM never made a 9 speed road drivetrain.
If you decide to go the shimano 10 speed route, do your research, not all mtb rear derailieurs will work with the road bike shifters.
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 Originally Posted by Vabikerider
Salsa has stopped allowing dealers to sell the complete bikes online I think with the 2014 bikes. I am not sure if they still allow the frames to be sold online.
Why do manufacturers do stuff like that? Isn't their purpose to sell as many as possible?
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 Originally Posted by noeltazz
Why do manufacturers do stuff like that? Isn't their purpose to sell as many as possible?
To protect their dealer network. Why would you buy a Salsa for close to retail in a local bike shop when you can buy it on Jenson or Amazon for 30% less. Most bike shops I know don't make their money on volume. They rely on mark up.
Another reason you see the majority of Vayas with SRAM is because that's how they came stock. I have had two and both came with SRAM road groups.
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