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    EM steel vs Ti weight....

    Can anyone share the frame weight of a Ti EM....do not find it on the Salsa site.

    FWIW I have a large EM running SS and badly want but really don't need a Ti one...I am hoping you tell me Ti is heavier and slower so I can let go of this desire.....

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    Ti will definitely be lighter.



    sorry

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    Ti is heavier & slower, let it go.










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    Going with frame & TX over? Budget build? I ain't helping, am I? I find that if I don't just give in and go with it, I end up doing it anyways and spend more in the process.

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    A 2013 El Mar To in a medium w seat collar is 4.1 lbs. Go Ti!
    C-DALE FLASH 29 Carbon 2 (19.6 lbs)
    C-DALE BB1

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    EM steel vs Ti weight....

    Ti El Mar will be everything you want it to be. Amazing ride quality.
    Selma Ti.

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    I am glad that the Ti frames are not readily available or I might have to pull the trigger and get one. I ride a large 2013 set up as a rigid SS. I had trouble finding this frame but, it was well worth it as I think the El Mariachi is the perfect ride for me. I have been riding this on 30 plus mile rides and it is a very comfy ride. There is a large 2012 Ti frame at a LBS (I think) that I might have to go check out. I might check it out even though it doesn't have the alternator drops. I would replace my geared Bandersnatch with this frame and have one set up SS rigid and geared with a Reba. Any thoughts on the 2012 set up geared with a RS Reba? Thanks!

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    EM steel vs Ti weight....

    Check out this El Mar Ti build... Strong and beautiful:

    http://milltowncycles.blogspot.com/2...-salsa-el.html
    Selma Ti.

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    You guys are not making it any easier to resist.

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    At 3 times the price of a steel frame, the difference is enough to pay for a good holiday with my bike. That made it a simple decision for me.

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    The 2013 frame is lighter(double butted), but the 2012 Ti frame in a large is 4.19 LBS. The 2012 EM steel frame is 5.5LBS. That's a more than a pound lighter, a smoother ride and a lifetime warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 292beach View Post
    The 2013 frame is lighter(double butted), but the 2012 Ti frame in a large is 4.19 LBS. The 2012 EM steel frame is 5.5LBS. That's a more than a pound lighter, a smoother ride and a lifetime warranty.
    Plus higher end components, so lighter still.

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    A bit more Ti under the seat and the grips of my new 2012. Still looking for the stem...



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    Quote Originally Posted by 292beach View Post
    The 2013 frame is lighter(double butted), but the 2012 Ti frame in a large is 4.19 LBS. The 2012 EM steel frame is 5.5LBS. That's a more than a pound lighter, a smoother ride and a lifetime warranty.
    Does that 2012 Ti weight include the dropouts, 'beach?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Club Mud View Post
    Still looking for the stem...
    Moots? Van Nicholas? Lynskey?

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    I've got my sights set on the Lynskey. Just need a bit more nerve to pull the trigger on the price!

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