• 10-23-2016
    Vto2.0
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryder1 View Post
    So a 32t oval ring runs fine on a 2015 steel El Mar? Doesn't hit the frame at all? Salsa says 32t max. I'm building from the frame up, probably with XT M8000 crank. I was thinking oval 32t might hit the chainstay. Anybody running 34t on a steel 2014-2016 frame?

    My bad man, I didn't see this until now, here's some pics to help you with your decision making, I think you can run the 34T no problem. If you see I put some spacers on my ring, to push it closer to the frame, which allowed the chain to stay more aligned and when pedaling backwards, the chain doesn't drop.
    Attachment 1101458Attachment 1101459Attachment 1101460

    Sine my salsa was one size too small for me, I ended up picking up a Kona Unit, a other steel frame bike, heres the M8000 just for reference.
    Attachment 1101461Attachment 1101462

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  • 10-24-2016
    wahday


    From a recent bikepacking trip. I've been running 27.5 Blunt35s with 2.8 tires since spring and loving it! Clearance is tight in back but have yet to experience any rub even after 500 + miles. Dropouts are all the way in.

    Drivetrain is 1x10 with Sunrace 11-42 cassette and oval 32t chainring.

    The B+ setup transforms the bike as far as handling and cush. No bottom bracket issues either.


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  • 10-24-2016
    Ryder1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vto2.0 View Post
    I think you can run the 34T no problem.

    Thanks! I think 32t oval + 19t cog will work nicely.
  • 10-24-2016
    Danimal
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wahday View Post


    From a recent bikepacking trip. I've been running 27.5 Blunt35s with 2.8 tires since spring and loving it! Clearance is tight in back but have yet to experience any rub even after 500 + miles. Dropouts are all the way in.

    Drivetrain is 1x10 with Sunrace 11-42 cassette and oval 32t chainring.

    The B+ setup transforms the bike as far as handling and cush. No bottom bracket issues either.


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    Very cool set up, thanks for sharing. Think you gain any rear tire clearance with dropouts slid back?

    Dan
  • 10-24-2016
    wahday
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danimal View Post
    Very cool set up, thanks for sharing. Think you gain any rear tire clearance with dropouts slid back?

    Dan

    I don't think so, though I have haven't moved them. It rides so beautifully the way it is set up I have been reticent to change anything. I think the tread would be too close to the chain stays if I moved the dropouts out. Based on my experiments with 29er plus wheels on this same bike (FBNimble almost fits in the back...) I think I would start getting rub when cornering since tread flexes more than other parts of the tire.

    But I have ridden the hell out of this thing over the last 4 months and no rub or other issues. Even light mud was not a problem (again I think because of where the actual tread is). The bike is very stable and playful. I take it everywhere I ride my FS without hesitation. Really shines as a commuter/bikepacker but rips as a day rider too.


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  • 10-25-2016
    Vto2.0
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wahday View Post


    From a recent bikepacking trip. I've been running 27.5 Blunt35s with 2.8 tires since spring and loving it! Clearance is tight in back but have yet to experience any rub even after 500 + miles. Dropouts are all the way in.

    Drivetrain is 1x10 with Sunrace 11-42 cassette and oval 32t chainring.

    The B+ setup transforms the bike as far as handling and cush. No bottom bracket issues either.


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    You have any up close shots to see the clearance? I might set one up like this, this thing looks super nice.

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  • 10-25-2016
    Birdss
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vto2.0 View Post
    You have any up close shots to see the clearance? I might set one up like this, this thing looks super nice.

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    +1. Please post a pic. I'm running a 29er Kenda Slant Six Pro that is a 2.35, but runs fat. I had to move my dropouts back to gain some additional tire clearance. I'll post a pic later.

    Thanks in advance.
  • 10-25-2016
    wahday
    3 Attachment(s)
    Attachment 1101931
    Right chain stay

    Attachment 1101932
    Left seat stay

    Ok, here are some shots of rear clearance for the Trailblazer 2.8 X 27.5 on a Blunt35 rim. This is a 2012 El Mariachi and the dropouts are all the way in.

    Yes, the clearance is tight! It is closest at the chain stays but again, I have really abused this thing and no tire rub. They are set up tubeless.

    I have been thoroughly happy with this setup!

  • 10-26-2016
    Vto2.0
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wahday View Post
    Attachment 1101931
    Right chain stay

    Attachment 1101932
    Left seat stay

    Ok, here are some shots of rear clearance for the Trailblazer 2.8 X 27.5 on a Blunt35 rim. This is a 2012 El Mariachi and the dropouts are all the way in.

    Yes, the clearance is tight! It is closest at the chain stays but again, I have really abused this thing and no tire rub. They are set up tubeless.

    I have been thoroughly happy with this setup!


    Not bad at all, you sir have given me hope to run 27.5 on my salsa and on my Unit - Kona unit [emoji5]

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  • 10-26-2016
    sven98
    Does anyone know if the B+ setup will work with the stock 29er Reba fork on the El mar?
  • 10-26-2016
    wahday
    These guys tried it with success running trailblazers, though not on a wide rim (35mm or wider). There is a pic of the clearance.

    Quote:

    "The clearances to the fork are getting a little tight on the sidewalls but perfectly acceptable, with the wide rims this may be more of an issue. We tried them in both Rockshox Reba and Marzocchi 320 29er forks with pretty much identical clearances."
    I put the same wheelset pictured above on my Anthem 29er which has an F29 fork. The clearance is more than acceptable and the bike rode wonderfully. Bottom bracket drop was an issue, though. Not so with the El Mar!
  • 10-26-2016
    ryan_nutting


    A picture from last weekends trip to Mohichan.
  • 10-26-2016
    killarbb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sven98 View Post
    Does anyone know if the B+ setup will work with the stock 29er Reba fork on the El mar?



    yes it will....ran it that way for about 9 months, then set up a lefty to run B+ this el mar will be mine forever
  • 10-29-2016
    JUSTINAZ
    4 Attachment(s)
    How I turned a steel El Mariachi into a Ti El Mariachi.
    I picked up a 2014 SS on a close out and [wanted a TiB]loved[/B] it. I had a good crash and dented up the frame and tacoed the rear wheel.
    Salsa has a crash replacement program ( new frame at a discount).
    They had no El Mariachis and I got the word that they were discontinued.
    Always wanted A Ti El Mar so I bought a slightly used frame off eBay and a case of Top Ramen.

    Build
    Salsa Ti El mar frame
    Salsa Chromoto fork
    Cane creek 40 headset with 110 bearings
    Industry 9 SS hubs laced to Easton Arc 30's
    Maxis icon 2.35 rear Ardent 2.4 front
    Ti-carbon bolt on thru axles
    Easton haven carbon bar / ESI grips
    Shimano xt Brakes and rotors
    Sram XO carbon cranks Wolf Tooth 32t Rennin 20t cog. Chris king 12 tooth lock ring.
    Time ATAC pedals
    KMC 8spd chain
    Thomson masterpiece Post
    Thomson stem
    WTB laser V team saddle ( great seat but discontinued)
    22lbs. 11 ounces but who's counting.
    Bike rides like a dream but I nut a huge difference over the steel.
  • 10-30-2016
    jeepergirl17
    1 Attachment(s)
    Lovin my El Mar out at Fort Ord!
    Finally found a small frame.
  • 01-17-2017
    Keyaroxy
    Looking for a large ss probably rigid for lower $. Frame or bike. Thanks
    Jimbo
  • 01-18-2017
    REDRED
    Nice
  • 01-18-2017
    abelfonseca
    2 Attachment(s)
    My dream bike is finally in my hands. I have found my cycling panacea. Holding this beauty in my hands brings mixed feelings towards Salsa. Praise for making something so unique and nice, and dissappointment for pulling the plug on the most beautiful, coolest hardtail ever.

    I can't wish for more only for this frame to last for ever! (at least till I die since its now... "obsolete")

    Attachment 1116510

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    Cheers
  • 01-19-2017
    Danimal
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    Looks awesome, post pictures during/after the build. I feel the same way about mine; I won't even keep it in the garage because I can't risk it getting stolen. I have much more expensive bikes, but this one literally can't be replaced...

    Been getting my El Mar all ready for 2017 while it waits patiently. A pic from a late fall ride:

    Attachment 1116523
  • 01-20-2017
    abelfonseca
    9 Attachment(s)
    So the big event happened yesterday. I spent my afternoon with the El Mariachis on the stand, swapping my parts from the old frame to the shiny pretty new (to me) one.

    First order of business was stripping the old one. I felt kind of sad while I was at it, the bike had done nothing wrong ever but was getting un done none the less.
    Attachment 1116736

    Attachment 1116737

    Now that I had both frames bare, I though it might be a good time for a weigh in. This weight is with headsets, rear slider dropouts and rear brake adaptor on. I was quite surprised at the substantial difference in weight. Was expecting the Ti frame to be about a pound lighter at most.
    Attachment 1116738

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    After a couple of hours and a couple of beers, my new El Mar, was ready. The swap was pretty straight forward. I did have to get an adapter for my fork as this frame came with a tapered headset. I had to cut a linkset from my chain due to the shorter stays and put on full cable housings.

    Attachment 1116741

    Yellow housing was all I had so I will have to stick with it for the mean time. Maybe it will grow on me. These are some better quality pics taken this morning.

    Attachment 1116745

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    I REALLY like the look of this bike. It looks much better in person than I ever thought. I havent had the chance for a proper ride yet. I did a couple of laps on my backyard just to finish setting it up. So far it feel greats, the shorter stays are noticed when cornering. Tomorrow will be its first real ride.

    Cheers
  • 01-21-2017
    mohrgan
    Abelfonseca, Beautiful El Mar! Where did you get your titanium frame? Is it new or used? Thanks...
  • 01-21-2017
    abelfonseca
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mohrgan View Post
    Abelfonseca, Beautiful El Mar! Where did you get your titanium frame? Is it new or used? Thanks...

    Thanks Mohrgan! I bought the frame from a fellow mtbr member. It is used but extremely well taken care off, almost looks like new.

    Cheers
  • 01-23-2017
    Danimal
    Sweet build, thanks for the details and good pictures. Put some 3M clear tape on that frame to protect it from cable rub! The yellow cables look good...

    Dan

    *EDIT* One of the pictures makes it look like you did put some protective tape on the downtube...
  • 01-23-2017
    abelfonseca
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danimal View Post
    Sweet build, thanks for the details and good pictures. Put some 3M clear tape on that frame to protect it from cable rub! The yellow cables look good...

    Dan

    *EDIT* One of the pictures makes it look like you did put some protective tape on the downtube...

    Thanks Dan. I put some "helicopter tape" on al cable/frame rub points. I will put some on the stays too for the occasional heel rub.
  • 01-24-2017
    *OneSpeed*
    that thing is beautiful! ditch the yellow when you get around to it though, it distracts from the beauty of the Ti.

    good stuff though :thumbsup: congrats!
  • 01-30-2017
    sven98
    Salsa El Mariachi by Sven S., on Flickr
  • 02-02-2017
    Tea@Dimbola
    2 Attachment(s)
    Attachment 1119227Attachment 1119228

    My Old Clunker - 2011?

    Old style skinny headtube and ancient quick release dropouts (no problem with Deore Skewar).

    Usually setup with Salsa Cromoto rigid fork (pictured bottom), but currently with Fox F100 as it came to Lancashire (Northern England) which is a bit bumpier than my usual Hampshire trails. About to replace the old 1 x 10 (11-36) setup which lasted 18 months. New setup will be: new 32t oval chainring with Sunrace 11-42 cassette and Goatlink to help shifting. It'll be ready tomorrow so I'll be searching out some steep stuff to see what that 42t 'granny' sprocket can do.

    Update:
    I took the bike out yesterday with the new setup. My buddy had been impressed with the way the Goatlink wrapped the chain around the cassette when it was set up, and I found the whole thing worked well in practice. I had no shifting problems and 42 tooth sprocket got me up a couple of things which I would have probably struggled with if I'd been on the previous 11-36 cassette. First impressions - Good.
  • 02-05-2017
    Raymo853
    My first year Ti, no sliders, Lynskey made, with the classic straight headset frame. Thinking of selling it, have little use for it these days.



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  • 02-05-2017
    *OneSpeed*
    ^ what size?

    I'm looking for an El Mar, but i need an XL
  • 02-08-2017
    Raymo853
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    ^ what size?

    I'm looking for an El Mar, but i need an XL

    It is a medium.

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  • 02-11-2017
    thx138
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by *OneSpeed* View Post
    ^ what size?

    I'm looking for an El Mar, but i need an XL

    What exactly are you looking for? I've got a 2014 ti XL that I have been thinking of selling.

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  • 02-11-2017
    *OneSpeed*
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thx138 View Post
    What exactly are you looking for? I've got a 2014 ti XL that I have been thinking of selling.

    well, that would be sweet! I have been looking for a frame for a while. that may have been an option before last week but I just contacted a frame builder and it looks like I'm getting a custom frame. :thumbsup: :band:

    I'll still keep an eye out, i like the El Mar, and if i come across an XL frame i'll grab it.
  • 02-20-2017
    Jaddy
    What up guys n gals, second time poster(may not let me show the pics), long time lurker on this site. I just want to say I loved looking at 17 pages of fine sexy elmar bike porn, you guys really have some nice rides, great pics and a lot of great info was shared on these bikes. I've been mountain biking since the early 90's, so not new to the sport but just now getting serious again and back into the game. I had bought a midgrade giant with low grade components a couple of years ago, so I could ride with the honey a couple of times a month, and it did fine for we were riding at the time, but now that I'm back in the woods on the trails, I knew some thing had to give.... I had been stalking the CL adds for the last couple of months, because I knew I could not shuck out 2k + on a bike like one I needed/wanted right now, and it finally paid off last friday. I found one in a near by city about an hour and a half away for about 900. I knew it would last long, and contacted him on the very first day of posting. I tried to low ball him but he wasn't budging on the price, but I couldn't find one even used online for cheaper than 1500. I said screw it and told him I would be over that day to check it out...I had to drive through a thunderstorm the whole way, 5oclock weekend traffic, plus throw in Mardi Gras traffic we have gong on right now and it was a complete shtshow trying to get there, ended up taking me like 2.5 hours to finally make it. He had no idea what components were on it when I asked, nor did he know the year or which model :-/ So at first I was thinking I was about to get the ol' CL scam-o-rama pulled on me, especially considering he wouldn't call me after I had giving him my phone number, nor would he give me his number....we just kept going back and forth through the CL site email server. We finally meet up, and I actually get to check out the bike in person. There was only 2 pics in the add, and the bike looked like it was gray, or a flat black maybe. Well when I look at it now it's like a midnight blue sparkly color, thanks to this site I know now it's called Storm blue...it looked great to me. I saw 2, maybe 3 of this same color pattern on this site, and one guy had said it looked like a bass boat, that was a good description, I was thinking it looked like an old hotrod color for a camaro, or maybe an old red neck trans-am color from the 80's.... :)

    It turns out it was a 2015 model elmar 3, with the deore/xt mix...only upgrades on her now are a Brooks c17 saddle and a arundel bottle cage, both came with her. I'll be changing out that bar soon enough, orange isn't my thing and it's over 27" long with the plugs in! It hasn't been so much a problem on the trails yet, but it's like a bull in china shop just trying to get it out of the garage, knocking things over left and right! That thing barely fits through my garage door, lol...I will probably switch to a 1x10 at some point (from 2x10 presently) but I'm just going to ride the snot out of her right now. The deore/xt set up doesn't bother me as much as it would others on here I'm sure, feels great compared to me always running bottom line stuff....compared to my old alivio (the very first year those components came out) and the x4, x5 w/ altus fr. derailer and cheap mech.Tek Novas on my giant, these feel like driving a cadillac especially with the steel frame. Also let me throw in the fact this is my very first 29er, coming off a 27.5 right now, and my first bike w/ hydro disc brakes, so the bottom line brakes feel great to me for now, and are an upgrade for sure. Also I'm used to riding 30+ lb. bikes all my life so this one at around 27-28 feels like a feather to me. That giant the way I got it now comes in at 34.5-35 lbs. !

    I've put 20 miles on her in 2 days in the trails, I love how she rides and feels. Already averaging +2 mph more and I haven't even got the shock dial in right yet, nor I'm I even 'used' to the bike yet. Loving it....

    About to go hit the trails, here's a couple of pics of her as she sits now. I'm sure I'll be back with some trail pics in the future. Take care and good riding!



  • 02-20-2017
    *OneSpeed*
    ^ cool! nice score.

    two thoughts. first, please break that into separate paragraphs so it can be read easier.

    second, don't take those bars off. or at least don't put narrower handlebars on. Wide bars are awesome. the days of 600-660 handlebars are long gone! it's much more common to run 720-800mm bars now paired with a shorter stem. more leverage and more control, not to mention it opens up your arms and chest so you can breath better. it gives a much more comfortable riding position IMO. give it a chance before you replace them with the wrong handlebars.

    27"= 686mm= narrow and sucky.

    happy riding!
  • 02-20-2017
    REDRED
    Haha this ^ is true!! I like the orange! I put a 60 mm stem on mine and tossed on some renthal 720s and it's like a knife through the woods.
  • 02-20-2017
    Jaddy
    *onespeed*

    I just went back and measured, I knew this bar had to be at least 700mm, and it was 27 7/8" from end to end straight across, which gives you around 708, my bad. From the front including the angles it was around 718mm. I hear ya' on giving it a chance, I like the way it feels no doubt, but where I ride we have no rocks, but roots and trees every where. Some of these gaps even on the intermediate technical trails have only 2.5' clearance in between....that's cutting it close with a 28" bar or larger :) Unfortunately this isn't wide open mountain trails, fire roads, or endless space deserts with no trees at all.

    I rode a 23" bar for 15 years...so even that 25"+ on my old bike felt wide, now on to another 3 inches wider! I like it though, I just did 7 miles on some med/hard trails and haven't clipped any trees yet.

    And speaking of onespeed, I talked to a gentleman earlier for about 20 minutes as I was pulling back into the trail parking lot. He was commenting about my bike and saying he had never seen one while out biking. He was driving a SS Niner w/ a salsa chain tensioner on it. It was a really nice super light bike, even with the older rockshox on there.

    We've been having 80 deg. weather in February where I'm at. It sure is nice to get back out there daily and ride...
  • 03-25-2017
    peter85
    sorry - found my answer in another thread! Post pics soon!
  • 03-27-2017
    Bentpushrod
    1 Attachment(s)
    Attachment 1128917Ditched the RockShox, and went rigid.
  • 05-31-2017
    frito_mosquito
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  • 05-31-2017
    thx138
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frito_mosquito View Post

    Is it still under warranty? Do you know what they are going to do for you?

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  • 05-31-2017
    frito_mosquito
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thx138 View Post
    Is it still under warranty? Do you know what they are going to do for you?

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    Salsa and the LBS are processing the warranty now. I will report back.
  • 05-31-2017
    thx138
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frito_mosquito View Post
    Salsa and the LBS are processing the warranty now. I will report back.

    Good luck with it. They should take care of it.

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  • 06-01-2017
    stevemacko
    Mine broke in the same spot on the drive side last summer. Salsa agreed it was a warranty issue, but had no el Mar frames to give out... They basically paid me to buy a Highball frame.


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frito_mosquito View Post

  • 06-01-2017
    frito_mosquito
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevemacko View Post
    Mine broke in the same spot on the drive side last summer. Salsa agreed it was a warranty issue, but had no el Mar frames to give out... They basically paid me to buy a Highball frame.

    How much did they give you? I want something steel with dropouts for single speed. Did you have to eat the cost of new parts that did not carry over from your old build?
  • 06-01-2017
    abelfonseca
    How feasable would it be it repair those frames that broke on the chainstays? Is welding those cracks up an option given that its steel and "easier" to weld than Alu or Ti.

    Cheers
  • 06-01-2017
    stevemacko
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frito_mosquito View Post
    How much did they give you? I want something steel with dropouts for single speed. Did you have to eat the cost of new parts that did not carry over from your old build?

    $450... this was just before the Timberjack was released. Salsa tried to sell me on the Cutthroat, but that wasn't what I wanted. My LBS really helped out and gave me a great deal on an aluminum Highball frame. Almost all of the parts transferred over. New headset parts were all I needed, but that was it... And I'm also running SS. Looked at the Sir9, but that seems to have as many failures as the el Mar, and the Ros 9 is just too heavy. The Highball isn't steel, but it's been a great bike for me so far.


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  • 06-01-2017
    frito_mosquito
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevemacko View Post
    $450... this was just before the Timberjack was released. Salsa tried to sell me on the Cutthroat, but that wasn't what I wanted. My LBS really helped out and gave me a great deal on an aluminum Highball frame. Almost all of the parts transferred over. New headset parts were all I needed, but that was it... And I'm also running SS. Looked at the Sir9, but that seems to have as many failures as the el Mar, and the Ros 9 is just too heavy. The Highball isn't steel, but it's been a great bike for me so far.


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    Interesting, thanks for the info. I guess I have to wait and see what Salsa offers.
  • 06-01-2017
    Fuzzy Dunlop01
    Ask them to have QBP broker ypu a deal for a karate monkey frame.

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  • 06-01-2017
    Volsung
    Isn't the new KM designed around a 140 fork? You'd still be out a ton of money even if they do a straight up replacement.
  • 06-01-2017
    frito_mosquito
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevemacko View Post
    $450... this was just before the Timberjack was released. Salsa tried to sell me on the Cutthroat, but that wasn't what I wanted. My LBS really helped out and gave me a great deal on an aluminum Highball frame. Almost all of the parts transferred over. New headset parts were all I needed, but that was it... And I'm also running SS. Looked at the Sir9, but that seems to have as many failures as the el Mar, and the Ros 9 is just too heavy. The Highball isn't steel, but it's been a great bike for me so far.


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    So are you running the stock El Mar fork on the Highball, or did you have another fork lying around? Your stock El Mar wheels transferred?
  • 06-01-2017
    frito_mosquito
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    Isn't the new KM designed around a 140 fork? You'd still be out a ton of money even if they do a straight up replacement.

    I am having trouble figuring out how both of my wheels and my fork are going to find a home anywhere else.
  • 06-01-2017
    stevemacko
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frito_mosquito View Post
    So are you running the stock El Mar fork on the Highball, or did you have another fork lying around? Your stock El Mar wheels transferred?


    The fork is still in service, but has been bumped to 120 by removing the spacer that it shipped with. I was running Arches on the el Mar, and they swapped over fine, as the spacing is the same with the SS dropouts on the Highball... 100 front, 135 rear QR.






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  • 06-01-2017
    Volsung
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frito_mosquito View Post
    I am having trouble figuring out how both of my wheels and my fork are going to find a home anywhere else.

    I have a SS 135 hub but it's convertible to 142. A KM can take that with certain dropout module things.
    It looks like the A/C might be the same, so I think I was wrong on needing a new fork.

    I'd be worried more personally since I also have a super expensive Phil Wood square taper BB with White Industries road cranks on mine. Who knows if those would carry over correctly. But that doesn't matter much since I'm selling it.

    But since this is a photo thread, here's a pic!
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  • 06-02-2017
    frito_mosquito
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevemacko View Post
    The fork is still in service, but has been bumped to 120 by removing the spacer that it shipped with. I was running Arches on the el Mar, and they swapped over fine, as the spacing is the same with the SS dropouts on the Highball... 100 front, 135 rear QR.






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    Turns out my LBS doesn't carry Santa Cruz, so oh well.
  • 06-02-2017
    frito_mosquito
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    Ask them to have QBP broker ypu a deal for a karate monkey frame.

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    No Karate Monkey frames until August. I might end up going that route, trying to figure something out in the meantime.
  • 06-04-2017
    dcmeyer
    1 Attachment(s)
    2015 El Mariachi SS
    Attachment 1140552
    Hope Pro4/SS hubs, WTB KOM i29 rims, Maxxis Ardent 2.4 tires
    Thomson stem and seatpost, Salsa carbon handlebar
  • 06-04-2017
    akindofbrian
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frito_mosquito View Post
    Turns out my LBS doesn't carry Santa Cruz, so oh well.

    I have a local shop here that is not a Santa Cruz dealer, but since we have no SC dealers within a lot of miles, the local shop is able to order from SC.

    Not sure if that is the same in your area or if your shop would be willing to look into it, but everything I've heard about it is pretty easy. Good luck to you.
  • 06-04-2017
    frito_mosquito
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by akindofbrian View Post
    I have a local shop here that is not a Santa Cruz dealer, but since we have no SC dealers within a lot of miles, the local shop is able to order from SC.

    Not sure if that is the same in your area or if your shop would be willing to look into it, but everything I've heard about it is pretty easy. Good luck to you.

    Thanks for the info. We do have a Santa Cruz dealer in town, and the two shops are somewhat rivals. I really want steel anyway and Santa Cruz doesn't offer a steel hard tail.
  • 06-05-2017
    Vto2.0
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dcmeyer View Post
    Attachment 1140552
    Hope Pro4/SS hubs, WTB KOM i29 rims, Maxxis Ardent 2.4 tires
    Thomson stem and seatpost, Salsa carbon handlebar

    Beautiful bike, really digging the skin wall tires.

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  • 06-16-2017
    Bentpushrod
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    The El Mar on some North Dakota gravel last night.
  • 06-22-2017
    RyanMorph
    I just picked up a 07 green El Mar frame and a smurf blue fork...because I have to frankenstein this thing...so we will see what happens. I think I will get blue cables and pedals...
  • 09-24-2017
    amigo2cool
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    Just finished converting my 2014 El Mar SS Steel frame to have the new GX Eagle 1x12 groupset on it. Really loved how the look of the bike turned out, and then I got out and rode the thing... what a dream. I think I've just built my ideal bike :)

    Attachment 1159296

    Needed to swap the SS dropouts for a 12x142 compatible set with a derailleur hanger. Ended up buying the below from http://www.universalcycles.com/

    ******** Items Ordered ********
    Item #: 51355-219020
    Description: Salsa Alternator 1.0 Swing Plates - Left Swing Plate, Thru Axle w/Fender Mount
    Quantity: 1 @ $30.00

    Item #: 51355-218015
    Description: Salsa Alternator 1.0 Swing Plates - Right Swing Plate, Maxle w/Derailleur Hanger & Fender Mount (Fits 12x142mm)
    Quantity: 1 @ $30.00
    *****************************

    Also needed a new wheel/freehub in the XD driver style to fit the GX Eagle cassette.

    As others in this thread have mentioned, I needed to run a full length cable housing and just zip-tied it to the brake housing along the top tube and then routed along the drive-side seat stay. I did not end up using any stick-on cable mounts as I've seen some do. No apparent issues so far, but it's only been a few rides.

    Thanks to all in this thread for the info/inspiration. These bikes really are beautiful!
  • 10-02-2017
    KR65
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    My 2014 from a ride last Saturday. It's received some upgrades over the years - now 1x11 with XT 11-46 in the back and Race Face 34T NW up front, Whisky No 9 fork, White Industries CLD's laced to WTB KOM 29er i25's. Just mounted the Kenda Flintridges - so far, I like them better than Clement X'Plor's.

    Maybe some day, I'll have some WTB Scrapers built up with White Industries CLD and 27.5+ tires.

    Attachment 1160537
  • 10-06-2017
    ®andyA
    3 Attachment(s)
    Been a while
    It's been a while since I've surfed over to the MTBR forums. I figured I'd post up some recent pics of my '12 Ti El Mar.

    Took a trip out to OR back in early Aug and rode the upper portion of the McKenzie River Trail. Hot day, so I didn't ride for very long and only stopped a couple times for pics. Here's one at Clear Lake.

    Attachment 1161189

    On the way home, I stopped by Moab & Dead Horse Point SP. Being early Aug it was hot there as well. A couple pics from DHP

    Attachment 1161188

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  • 10-11-2017
    Keyaroxy
    Current build - always changing.
  • 10-13-2017
    BmoreKen
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    Loaded up and ready for the Green Mountain Gravel Growler!

    Attachment 1162203
  • 10-15-2017
    NDTransplant
    Dropper Post?
    Anybody been running a dropper post on their ElMariachi?

    I’m using mine more for singletrack stuff now; getting that seat out of the way for the descents would be nice.
  • 10-16-2017
    sven98
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    I have the thomson 27.2. Works well except in cold weather. Also had to send it back for warranty work once.

    Attachment 1162587
  • 11-20-2017
    MudderNutter
    (shameless self promotion)

    My beloved El Mariachi is now up in the classifieds. Let me know if you have any quesitons.

    2015 Salsa El Mariachi - MTBR Classifieds
  • 11-23-2017
    abelfonseca
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    Only one of these will loose the battle to rust.

    Attachment 1168855
  • 11-28-2017
    D Boogie C
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    Brought the Mariachi back to life for winter.

    Attachment 1169714
  • 11-28-2017
    BigLucille
    1 Attachment(s)
    Attachment 1169745

    My El Mar. Found this XL frame (never built) for sale on Facebook last year and snagged. Been riding it since this spring, great bike.

    29x2.6 Nobby Nics on Stans Flow EX rims.
    Hunter Smooth Move bar (favorite thing about riding this bike?)
    White Industries cranks, 34x22 gearing
    Rock Shox Reba 120mm fork

    Looking forward to the release of the Maxxis Rekon 29x2.6, my Nobby Nics have taken some bad sidewall abuse and are starting to scare me a bit...
  • 11-28-2017
    Vto2.0
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BigLucille View Post
    Attachment 1169745

    My El Mar. Found this XL frame (never built) for sale on Facebook last year and snagged. Been riding it since this spring, great bike.

    29x2.6 Nobby Nics on Stans Flow EX rims.
    Hunter Smooth Move bar (favorite thing about riding this bike?)
    White Industries cranks, 34x22 gearing
    Rock Shox Reba 120mm fork

    Looking forward to the release of the Maxxis Rekon 29x2.6, my Nobby Nics have taken some bad sidewall abuse and are starting to scare me a bit...

    That thing looks sweet bro. What's the clearance like, got any pics?

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  • 11-29-2017
    heartland
    1 Attachment(s)
    Just to keep the black and green '13 El Mar theme going:

    Attachment 1169864

    BigLucille--that's awesome that 2.6 NNs fit the frame. I've got 2.4 Ardents now and was hoping that something a wee bit bigger would clear the chainstays.
  • 11-29-2017
    BigLucille
    @Vto2.0

    Clearance is generous on frame and fork, and I have the alternators set about mid-way, to leave room in the chain for swapping cogs. No pictures but I could get some later. Not sure about all the 2.6 offerings out now, as I've only tried the NN's, but these 2.6 definitely fit with room to spare.
  • 11-30-2017
    Ailuropoda
    2 Attachment(s)
    My Salsa El Mariachi Ti on the Tour Divide this year.

    The bike is perfect for the Rohloff Speedhub. I also really liked the Cutthroat fork.