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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder1 View Post
    So a 32t oval ring runs fine on a 2015 steel El Mar? Doesn't hit the frame at all? Salsa says 32t max. I'm building from the frame up, probably with XT M8000 crank. I was thinking oval 32t might hit the chainstay. Anybody running 34t on a steel 2014-2016 frame?
    My bad man, I didn't see this until now, here's some pics to help you with your decision making, I think you can run the 34T no problem. If you see I put some spacers on my ring, to push it closer to the frame, which allowed the chain to stay more aligned and when pedaling backwards, the chain doesn't drop.
    The El Mariachi photo thread!-img_20161023_091439.jpgThe El Mariachi photo thread!-img_20161023_091454.jpgThe El Mariachi photo thread!-img_20161023_091601.jpg

    Sine my salsa was one size too small for me, I ended up picking up a Kona Unit, a other steel frame bike, heres the M8000 just for reference.
    The El Mariachi photo thread!-img_20161023_091635.jpgThe El Mariachi photo thread!-img_20161023_091643.jpg

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    From a recent bikepacking trip. I've been running 27.5 Blunt35s with 2.8 tires since spring and loving it! Clearance is tight in back but have yet to experience any rub even after 500 + miles. Dropouts are all the way in.

    Drivetrain is 1x10 with Sunrace 11-42 cassette and oval 32t chainring.

    The B+ setup transforms the bike as far as handling and cush. No bottom bracket issues either.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vto2.0 View Post
    I think you can run the 34T no problem.
    Thanks! I think 32t oval + 19t cog will work nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wahday View Post


    From a recent bikepacking trip. I've been running 27.5 Blunt35s with 2.8 tires since spring and loving it! Clearance is tight in back but have yet to experience any rub even after 500 + miles. Dropouts are all the way in.

    Drivetrain is 1x10 with Sunrace 11-42 cassette and oval 32t chainring.

    The B+ setup transforms the bike as far as handling and cush. No bottom bracket issues either.


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    Very cool set up, thanks for sharing. Think you gain any rear tire clearance with dropouts slid back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danimal View Post
    Very cool set up, thanks for sharing. Think you gain any rear tire clearance with dropouts slid back?

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    I don't think so, though I have haven't moved them. It rides so beautifully the way it is set up I have been reticent to change anything. I think the tread would be too close to the chain stays if I moved the dropouts out. Based on my experiments with 29er plus wheels on this same bike (FBNimble almost fits in the back...) I think I would start getting rub when cornering since tread flexes more than other parts of the tire.

    But I have ridden the hell out of this thing over the last 4 months and no rub or other issues. Even light mud was not a problem (again I think because of where the actual tread is). The bike is very stable and playful. I take it everywhere I ride my FS without hesitation. Really shines as a commuter/bikepacker but rips as a day rider too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wahday View Post


    From a recent bikepacking trip. I've been running 27.5 Blunt35s with 2.8 tires since spring and loving it! Clearance is tight in back but have yet to experience any rub even after 500 + miles. Dropouts are all the way in.

    Drivetrain is 1x10 with Sunrace 11-42 cassette and oval 32t chainring.

    The B+ setup transforms the bike as far as handling and cush. No bottom bracket issues either.


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    You have any up close shots to see the clearance? I might set one up like this, this thing looks super nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vto2.0 View Post
    You have any up close shots to see the clearance? I might set one up like this, this thing looks super nice.

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    +1. Please post a pic. I'm running a 29er Kenda Slant Six Pro that is a 2.35, but runs fat. I had to move my dropouts back to gain some additional tire clearance. I'll post a pic later.

    Thanks in advance.
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    The El Mariachi photo thread!-img_5598.jpg
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    Ok, here are some shots of rear clearance for the Trailblazer 2.8 X 27.5 on a Blunt35 rim. This is a 2012 El Mariachi and the dropouts are all the way in.

    Yes, the clearance is tight! It is closest at the chain stays but again, I have really abused this thing and no tire rub. They are set up tubeless.

    I have been thoroughly happy with this setup!


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    Quote Originally Posted by wahday View Post
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    Ok, here are some shots of rear clearance for the Trailblazer 2.8 X 27.5 on a Blunt35 rim. This is a 2012 El Mariachi and the dropouts are all the way in.

    Yes, the clearance is tight! It is closest at the chain stays but again, I have really abused this thing and no tire rub. They are set up tubeless.

    I have been thoroughly happy with this setup!


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    Not bad at all, you sir have given me hope to run 27.5 on my salsa and on my Unit - Kona unit

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    Does anyone know if the B+ setup will work with the stock 29er Reba fork on the El mar?
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    These guys tried it with success running trailblazers, though not on a wide rim (35mm or wider). There is a pic of the clearance.

    "The clearances to the fork are getting a little tight on the sidewalls but perfectly acceptable, with the wide rims this may be more of an issue. We tried them in both Rockshox Reba and Marzocchi 320 29er forks with pretty much identical clearances."
    I put the same wheelset pictured above on my Anthem 29er which has an F29 fork. The clearance is more than acceptable and the bike rode wonderfully. Bottom bracket drop was an issue, though. Not so with the El Mar!

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    A picture from last weekends trip to Mohichan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sven98 View Post
    Does anyone know if the B+ setup will work with the stock 29er Reba fork on the El mar?


    yes it will....ran it that way for about 9 months, then set up a lefty to run B+ this el mar will be mine forever

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    How I turned a steel El Mariachi into a Ti El Mariachi.

    I picked up a 2014 SS on a close out and [wanted a TiB]loved[/B] it. I had a good crash and dented up the frame and tacoed the rear wheel.
    Salsa has a crash replacement program ( new frame at a discount).
    They had no El Mariachis and I got the word that they were discontinued.
    Always wanted A Ti El Mar so I bought a slightly used frame off eBay and a case of Top Ramen.

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    Salsa Ti El mar frame
    Salsa Chromoto fork
    Cane creek 40 headset with 110 bearings
    Industry 9 SS hubs laced to Easton Arc 30's
    Maxis icon 2.35 rear Ardent 2.4 front
    Ti-carbon bolt on thru axles
    Easton haven carbon bar / ESI grips
    Shimano xt Brakes and rotors
    Sram XO carbon cranks Wolf Tooth 32t Rennin 20t cog. Chris king 12 tooth lock ring.
    Time ATAC pedals
    KMC 8spd chain
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    Thomson stem
    WTB laser V team saddle ( great seat but discontinued)
    22lbs. 11 ounces but who's counting.
    Bike rides like a dream but I nut a huge difference over the steel.
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    Lovin my El Mar out at Fort Ord!
    Finally found a small frame.
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