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    Yeah I believe they are trying to go more mainstream and less niche. No more steel or ti mtbs and no more el mariachi. That's why I bought the last two. Best hard tail I've ever rode.

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    The El Mariachi is still on their lineup. They only dropped the Ti model. That was one cool bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abelfonseca View Post
    The El Mariachi is still on their lineup. They only dropped the Ti model. That was one cool bike.
    That is true but it looks to me like all the bikes on their bike list are 2016's and who knows what will change once they add the new and updated bikes to that list.

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    I stand corrected as the El Mar still lives, sans Ti mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abelfonseca View Post
    The El Mariachi is still on their lineup. They only dropped the Ti model. That was one cool bike.
    No more salsa el mariachi past 2016 models. RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDRED View Post
    No more salsa el mariachi past 2016 models. RIP
    Why do you say that? Do you have a link to a statement from salsa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abelfonseca View Post
    Why do you say that? Do you have a link to a statement from salsa?
    Talked to rep a few weeks ago at a trail opening. El mariachi is gone with the timberjack taking its place. But who knows until all of the 2017s come out... El mariachis on the site are 2016s...

    Presenting Our Updated Line | Salsa Cycles

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    Cool-blue Rhythm 2014 El Mariachi Ti update

    Just swapped the Fox with an Enve Carbon fork. Im liking it so far!
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    Update!

    I think I'm liking my bike even more with the Enve Carbon fork! Man, didn't realize Salsa stopped making the Ti El Mar... Glad I got one when I did!The El Mariachi photo thread!-img_4842.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by CG3 View Post
    I think I'm liking my bike even more with the Enve Carbon fork! Man, didn't realize Salsa stopped making the Ti El Mar... Glad I got one when I did!Click image for larger version. 

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    Sweet ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDRED View Post
    Talked to rep a few weeks ago at a trail opening. El mariachi is gone with the timberjack taking its place. But who knows until all of the 2017s come out... El mariachis on the site are 2016s...

    Presenting Our Updated Line | Salsa Cycles
    What a moronic decision by Salsa. They are having a lot of negative feedback on their new line up on that page. I hope they regret it. Really dissapointed that salsa decided to drop one of their most iconic bikes. They could have re invented it with full 27.5+ capabilty or something like that. Now they "replaced" it with a cookie cutter aluminum framed bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abelfonseca View Post
    What a moronic decision by Salsa. They are having a lot of negative feedback on their new line up on that page. I hope they regret it. Really dissapointed that salsa decided to drop one of their most iconic bikes. They could have re invented it with full 27.5+ capabilty or something like that. Now they "replaced" it with a cookie cutter aluminum framed bike.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    I currently own an El Mar but the new Surly Karate Monkey looks like a very worthwhile replacement. It is 29 or 27.5+.

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    For all you people crying about the death of the el mar, I bet they'll resurrect within a cycle.
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    It could be worse they could of passed the name along to that new timberjack.

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    I've wanted to own one of these for more time than I can remember. Finally built this up from parts I sourced over 6 months and couldn't be happier. I love this bike.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thx138 View Post
    It could be worse they could of passed the name along to that new timberjack.

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    that would be way worse.

    I love my EMT, but I still don't get the frustration with dropping the El Mar, even though I see a many El Mariachis on my local trails. If you want a steel/Ti hardtail with that geometry you can get a Karate Monkey or there are many custom makers who can make you that bike with similar dropouts for a few hundred dollars more. And considering the timberjack is designed for fat tires and a 100mm+ suspension fork, I suspect the aluminum rides fine.

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    Piggybacking of what you are saying about the steel bikes rth009 I picked up a Kona Unit 2016 model, yes it's single speed, but for $700 it was hard to pass up, maybe since steel is becoming harder to find, finding a good deal on one will be easier. We have a salsa demo day coming up next month where I live, if anyone is wondering how the timber jack rides, I'll come back and give an update, now I'm not a super expert, but hopefully my report will help someone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vto2.0 View Post
    Piggybacking of what you are saying about the steel bikes rth009 I picked up a Kona Unit 2016 model, yes it's single speed, but for $700 it was hard to pass up, maybe since steel is becoming harder to find, finding a good deal on one will be easier. We have a salsa demo day coming up next month where I live, if anyone is wondering how the timber jack rides, I'll come back and give an update, now I'm not a super expert, but hopefully my report will help someone.

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    I just went to a Salsa demo on Monday. They had the white Woodsmoke 27.5+, which I rode and liked, but no Timberjack. I think the Timberjack will be marketed to different crowds than those who come out to demo events, but who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rth009 View Post
    that would be way worse.

    I love my EMT, but I still don't get the frustration with dropping the El Mar, even though I see a many El Mariachis on my local trails. If you want a steel/Ti hardtail with that geometry you can get a Karate Monkey or there are many custom makers who can make you that bike with similar dropouts for a few hundred dollars more. And considering the timberjack is designed for fat tires and a 100mm+ suspension fork, I suspect the aluminum rides fine.
    I am especially disappointed for several reasons. The main one being that I wanted to replace my current steel El Mar for a ti version. I now have to resort to looking for a used large frame on ebay or other classifieds. The Ti el Mar was a special bike, incredibly good looking and affordable (for ti).

    Possible lack of a replacement frame when/if my frame breaks!

    I also felt there was so much potential in that frame to transform it to a proper + wheeled frame with a few tweaks. Just look at what Jamis did with their dragon slayer. The ride difference between aluminum and steel will always be noticeable even with big tires. I think there is a certain frequency of vibrations that steel dampens better and that tires no matter the size, wont soak up. Steel is real!

    The name man, I really digged the name...rip... :-(.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abelfonseca View Post
    I am especially disappointed for several reasons. The main one being that I wanted to replace my current steel El Mar for a ti version. I now have to resort to looking for a used large frame on ebay or other classifieds. The Ti el Mar was a special bike, incredibly good looking and affordable (for ti).

    Possible lack of a replacement frame when/if my frame breaks!

    I also felt there was so much potential in that frame to transform it to a proper + wheeled frame with a few tweaks. Just look at what Jamis did with their dragon slayer. The ride difference between aluminum and steel will always be noticeable even with big tires. I think there is a certain frequency of vibrations that steel dampens better and that tires no matter the size, wont soak up. Steel is real!

    The name man, I really digged the name...rip... :-(.
    All good reasons, especially the name. I have a steel Vaya, a friend with a steel El Mar, another with a El Mar Ti, and I have a 2011 large, El Mariachi Ti made by Lynskey and I doubt I will ever part with it, even though Id love to have 2012 or 2013 with the alternators. Ive seen a few used EMTs on ebay, good luck.

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