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    Allright it took a bit of doing but I've gotten confirmation that my warranty replacement is authorized and I should be getting a new Spearfish frame in a couple of weeks. Thanks to Salsa for getting this done, I can't complain, what with the anticipation of a great replacement.

    Of course I'd be happy to have the Dos Niner back, but this frame should build up well next to my hardtail. As the Spearfish was intended, it'll be used as a 100-miler bike next year.

    Of course a new Dos could probably fulfill both of those roles, but I've been needing more than one MTB for quite some time to keep me rolling.

    Here's the photos of the damage. On the bottom bracket you can see one crack clearly. It's not apparent in the photo, but there is another small crack just below it and to the left. Once both cracks connected, I imagine the chainstay's separation from the bottom bracket wouldn't be far behind.

    The second photo shows a large crack in the seatpost collar. This was an issue that was debatable between Salsa and I; I thought that I had good minimum insertion but the crack indicated that may not have been the case. Word to the wise: Get yourself a nice long seatpost for your Dos Niner.





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    Quote Originally Posted by TunicaTrails
    The second photo shows a large crack in the seatpost collar. This was an issue that was debatable between Salsa and I; I thought that I had good minimum insertion but the crack indicated that may not have been the case. Word to the wise: Get yourself a nice long seatpost for your Dos Niner.
    Ouch, how much seatpost was inserted in the frame?

    Glad to hear your new bike is on the way...

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    My initial thoughts tell me if the crack was small enough to be hidden by paint then it would not make such an obvious creak. I also don't think it would disappear after a strip down/rebuild and then suddenly re-appear.

    It's a pain in the ass but you need to start swapping individual parts and run through the process of elimination.

    replace pedals, creak still present, OK it's not the pedals, relace BB, creak still there, OK it's not the BB....repeat

    Hopefully you have spare parts, etc.
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    It's gone for now. I pulled the shock, cleaned and lubed the area. Creak is gone for now, think that should do it.
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    Dos SS

    So I've been riding this bike on the trails as a 2 x 9 and thought that I could make a hell of a light all day riding SS out of this bike.... HOLY CRAP... this thing rocks.

    I weighed it in at about 25lbs for a large. I say about because I did the bathroom scale thing (will get a better reading soon).

    Anyway I can change this back to a 2 x 9 in 30 min but I don't see that happening unless we go west to Pisgah or something.

    All in all very happy other than the damn creaking that just won't go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ral83178
    So I've been riding this bike on the trails as a 2 x 9 and thought that I could make a hell of a light all day riding SS out of this bike.... HOLY CRAP... this thing rocks.

    I weighed it in at about 25lbs for a large. I say about because I did the bathroom scale thing (will get a better reading soon).

    Anyway I can change this back to a 2 x 9 in 30 min but I don't see that happening unless we go west to Pisgah or something.

    All in all very happy other than the damn creaking that just won't go away.

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    Adding a Cane Creek 110 I got on sale for $58 from Chain reaction... check em out if they still gottem.
    Very cool. I ran a DOS as a SS (32X17 magic gear) for a couple months and was surprised how well it performed. It maintains speed brilliantly.

    My DOS keeps creaking too - in the front, and only when pulling on the bars (mainly standing climbs). I put on an old stem and bars, but that didn't change a thing. Is this your experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder1
    Very cool. I ran a DOS as a SS (32X17 magic gear) for a couple months and was surprised how well it performed. It maintains speed brilliantly.

    My DOS keeps creaking too - in the front, and only when pulling on the bars (mainly standing climbs). I put on an old stem and bars, but that didn't change a thing. Is this your experience?

    Thanks.

    I'm running a 32 x 19 just because I had it laying around. Will likely put on a 18 soon and leave it there.

    As for the creaking… it creaks with the seat post in only. No seat (trials style) and creak free. I'm calling Salsa today to get some other opinions. I have to date done the following.

    - cleaned and reinstalled BB
    - rebuilt pedals (SPDs)
    - greased seat post and rails
    - put Teflon tape in-between the clamp and seat collar
    - lubed the Relish shock normal areas

    All in all it seams that when the seat post is snugged up the scandium has little flex this it is getting a stress (creaking) point in the frame. If I touch the top tube with my finger with a little pressure it creaks. Who knows.. If it breaks it breaks.. But creaking is the worst on a SS….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ral83178
    All in all it seams that when the seat post is snugged up the scandium has little flex this it is getting a stress (creaking) point in the frame. If I touch the top tube with my finger with a little pressure it creaks. Who knows.. If it breaks it breaks.. But creaking is the worst on a SS….
    Mine creaks too but I think I may have pinpointed it to the rear cable where it contacts the cable stop. Not 100% sure that the seatpost isn't making some noise also, but I know the cable does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cackalacky
    Mine creaks too but I think I may have pinpointed it to the rear cable where it contacts the cable stop. Not 100% sure that the seatpost isn't making some noise also, but I know the cable does.
    I have no cables now other than brakes... creak is still there... oah well... thank god for iPods and good sounding 240s hubs with 36 ratchet

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    New addition to my arsenal...

    shiny green dos niner with stans ztr crest hoops, fsa carbon cockpit, RS Reba and a mix mosh of a drive train that weighs in just over 24 lbs. Have about 50 miles on her and am enjoying both the bike and 29er experience. once she gets rolling she moves nice, is fairly nimble and the 1" helps take some of the chatter out. A great compliment to my 5" titus ML and my new enduro race bike
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    Salsa Dos Niner

    Well, I have wanted one of these bad boys for some time. My buddy just hooked me up and I am pretty stoked!
    2006-7ish?? Dos Niner size Large Green
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    Bontrager Race xXx Lite Carbon Seatpost
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    Everything else Shimano XT Cranks, 2x9, Derailer, yadda yadda yadda

    Anyway, just wanted to say hello and say it feels pretty great to be part of this Cult, errr, I mean family! Yeehaaa

    Pics to come~

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    I liked the Dos Niner concept since the moment I laid eyes on one, but it didn't come to my attention until shortly before they went out of production. I was looking for a lightly used Dos before settling on my Spearfish. Well, yesterday was my lucky day!! A fellow Salsa owner took notice of my bike at the trail head and after talking for a few minutes he joined my friend and I for our ride. About 2 miles in we swapped bikes, what are the odds of finding another 6'4" 185lb guy to trade with? I must admit I was horribly hungover (so bad I had to stop and give my breakfast back to the earth), but the Dos was incredible. So quick, so predictable and wow does it like to climb. Needless to say, I am back on the hunt for a used XL Dos Niner to build up. I am jealous of you all!

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    My Dos has joined the cracked club, cracked thru the pinch bolt tabs on the Relish shock. I waited to post until I spoke to Salsa and my replacement rig is on the way! AMAZING customer service!!! Looking forward to building and riding my new Salsa product! The Dos was a great ride and I am sure that my Spearfish will be nothing less!
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    Just an update: The Spearfish arrived as promised and it went together smoothly. The green paint w/ the black swingarm is simply amazing. Built up to 27lbs, which isn't too bad for a large frame. I may get some carbon bars and am definitely going to pick up a new XT 2x crank. Just need the rain to stop so I can ride it!
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    paid spam - Nice Dos for Sale in the Classifieds

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    Complete bike or frame/fork - super nice shape.

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    Hello!
    How are things going with your Dosses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leffo View Post
    Hello!
    How are things going with your Dosses?
    Broken

    Anyone interested in a Relish shock or a Chris King silver headset?

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    Hmm too bad. No one tried to weld it?

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    I've been riding the silver one for 3 years now.. no issues, and loving it.

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    I might have one in the near future and would like to have a stiff fork on it.
    Can you recommend one? Want it to be as high as possible in the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leffo View Post
    I might have one in the near future and would like to have a stiff fork on it.
    Can you recommend one? Want it to be as high as possible in the front.
    Rigid stiff, or suspension stiff?

    100mm is as high as I would go on a Dos (or rather 95mm to 105mm to be more specific). Any more and you are going to suffer with a slack head angle for high speed XC riding through the tight stuff.

    Stiff? Get a TA up front. Or some carbon wheels as well and you'll have a stiff front end. Plenty to choose from between RockShox and Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown View Post
    Rigid stiff, or suspension stiff?

    100mm is as high as I would go on a Dos (or rather 95mm to 105mm to be more specific). Any more and you are going to suffer with a slack head angle for high speed XC riding through the tight stuff.

    Stiff? Get a TA up front. Or some carbon wheels as well and you'll have a stiff front end. Plenty to choose from between RockShox and Fox.
    Meant a rigid fork and I want to use it with a drop bar thats why i want it t be as high as possible(without sacrificing the ride).

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    I'm probably buying an '08 Orange Dos Niner this Saturday. Do these crack a lot at the chain stay and bottom braket? I was concerned about this, considering there's a shock with a pivot point.


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    Here's a better pic of the Dos Niner I just picked up today. I still need to install the FD. And I need to add some chain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Drummerboy1975 View Post
    Here's a better pic of the Dos Niner I just picked up today. I still need to install the FD. And I need to add some chain.

    Nice! I have an orange too, it such a good bike. I also had a stiff fork at first and now i have a 100mm Reba but i actially liked it better with the stiff.
    Think im gonna put it back on

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    Quote Originally Posted by leffo View Post
    Nice! I have an orange too, it such a good bike. I also had a stiff fork at first and now i have a 100mm Reba but i actially liked it better with the stiff.
    Think im gonna put it back on
    Ouch! More power to you. Even with the 100mm REBA, large volume tubeless tires - the bike can be rough on my back and neck compared to my full suspension bikes. No surprise there, but with proper tires and air pressure - most of that roughness can be mitigated.

    Of course, it's a dream when compared to a cyclocross bike and the pounding one takes on hammering a rough course during a cyclocross race.

    I would think the Dos Niner frame's longevity would be better (as in longer) with a suspension fork compared to running it rigid.

    Mine is pretty dang comfy with the big squish tires set at a low psi (around 19-20 psi) and 100mm fork...


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    Perusing my local craigslist and saw this apparently lightly used silver dos niner in large for $1000 in Missoula, MT Its been on there a while too.

    Salsa Dos Niner Mountain Bike - Full XTR, Rock-Shox

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    I think it takes a pretty optimistic person to buy a used Dos Niner.

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    I want to show my salsa DosNiner.

    I love it, simple and comfortable.

    And one thing that I also like, here in Spain is very rarely seen, is quite exclusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrSerg View Post
    I want to show my salsa DosNiner.

    I love it, simple and comfortable.

    And one thing that I also like, here in Spain is very rarely seen, is quite exclusive.

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    Hi!

    This is my Salsa,
    this is my second 29 "
    The first one was Haro Mery SS rigid
    This is a very fun bike, and extremely rare in my country
    I look forward to Future Rides

    greeting!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zumberak View Post
    Hi!

    This is my Salsa,
    this is my second 29 "
    The first one was Haro Mery SS rigid
    This is a very fun bike, and extremely rare in my country
    I look forward to Future Rides

    greeting!!!
    Nice looking Dos Niner, Zumberak! Enjoy it once the winter is gone.

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    Wow, I am intrigued by the Dos Niners, have been ever since I first saw them, back in 2008. I think I now want one....can you guys educate me.....What was the last year of production, 2010? What year was it when they strengthened the chain stay BB joint, to help prevent the cracking. Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by irideiam View Post
    Wow, I am intrigued by the Dos Niners, have been ever since I first saw them, back in 2008. I think I now want one....can you guys educate me.....What was the last year of production, 2010? What year was it when they strengthened the chain stay BB joint, to help prevent the cracking. Thanks
    The last production model (slippery silver) was 2010: Dos Niner | Bikes | Salsa Cycles

    This will be my 5th season on it and everything still looks good, but 4-5 years for a Scandium frame is just about all that one can expect out of it. Others, even with the slippery silver frame, experienced cracks and breaks much earlier. Mine shares time in the garage with other bikes, so most likely accounts for the extended duration I am getting out of it.

    If you are shopping around for a used one, just be aware that the life expectancy is what it is and buying at this point means (unless the frame is still new in the box or simply has not been ridden much), you are at the tail end of what one could expect to get out of this frame.

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    Custom Powdercoated 2010 Dos Niner

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    Thinking about a dos niner...

    Thinking about buying a used dos niner frame set to build. I know the earlier versions of this frame were prone to cracking issues and discontinued. Found one locally and I'm thinking about it. Anyone own one and thoughts on this build?

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    I had the older version and it broke at the dropouts. Salsa was fantastic and warrantied it very quickly. The newer edition (2010, I think) had an extra welded section. I haven't had any issues.
    An engineer friend said that a frame like this is probably better suited to smaller riders (something about lever arms and flex at that joint, not to mention weight).
    Hope that helps.

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    kendalja, "buyer beware". I bought a used Dos back in the day, same model by the way. I put less than 200 miles on it before I cracked the chainstay. Used frame, I was poop out of luck. I knew it going in, so I hold no malice towards Salsa and would buy from them again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach417 View Post
    kendalja, "buyer beware". I bought a used Dos back in the day, same model by the way. I put less than 200 miles on it before I cracked the chainstay. Used frame, I was poop out of luck. I knew it going in, so I hold no malice towards Salsa and would buy from them again.
    Pretty much deemed that 4-5 years out of the Dos frame was about the life expectancy if ridden on a regular basis. Hard to say how much riding was done on the frame Kendalja is looking at, but be realistic in terms of how long it would last.

    My silver Dos is still going, but I don't ride it that often. I did race it on Sunday for the first time this year and realized how much I missed it.



    I had so much fun, I took it out for an early morning training ride this AM and am pleased I've been able to get a few years out of the silver frame with no issues (silver frame replaced the dark green version that cracked at the start of its 5th year of service)...



    Makes me wish they still made it and I had an option when this one burns out.

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    Year 7 of my Slippery Silver begins with a complete makeover!

    All that remains is the frame, the Chris King headset, and the bottle cage. The rest is new thanks to some great sales going on here and there.



    Took it down to 21.62 pounds for the size XL...



    Initial ride with the nearly 3 pound weight loss from the former build, stiffer fork, 15mm TA, wider bars and carbon, XL grips, lighter wheels, 1 x 11 XTR, carbon cranks, etc... had a lot of new tech things for me to review compared to the previous incarnation.

    Wow - totally different bike now and I am impressed after my first initial 10 miles on singletrack.

    Custom Fox stickers to match the frame...



    And of course one for the arch...



    70mm stem, final fork cut, final brake line cut...




    Before (left side of spreadsheet0 and after (right side) weight...



    I may be the only remaining member of the Dos Niner fan club.
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    Nice work BB! Good to see a Dos Niner still rolling.

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    Nice! I'm looking at an update as well... thinking of swapping rims and trying to fit some 27.5 x 2.8 kicks in there. Anyone know if that would fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cholopolitan View Post
    Nice! I'm looking at an update as well... thinking of swapping rims and trying to fit some 27.5 x 2.8 kicks in there. Anyone know if that would fit?
    Pretty dang tight fit for a 2.4 Ardent in the rear of the Dos - in fact, unless one is running stiff carbon rims you'll get rub with a 2.4. Not to rain on the 2.8 parade, but I doubt they would fit.

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    I may be the only remaining member of the Dos Niner fan club.
    I might have still been a silent member except for one niggling new feature of a frame that I bought new. Even though I probably got my money's worth out of the frame, I nonetheless feel like a guinea pig. I am not hard on equipment and I have never broken a frame before, much less had one spontaneously self-destruct while JRA as this did. Fortunately, not far from home. But now knowing that this was a ticking time bomb, I cringe when I think of places I rode it where a broken frame would have been an extreme inconvenience, at the very least.
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