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    Colossal

    Anybody in line to get one? When will they be available?

    This bike ticks all the boxes for me.

    I love the color. I love the panel graphics like my current La Cruz and like the older Salsas. Disc brakes. ENVE tapered carbon fork. Road bike only. It's got everything I need/want.


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    88Rex - the Colossal is available - your dealer should have them if they put them on the season's order. If they were late in line, they should be getting them soon. We started getting them about 3 weeks ago. Very cool bike - steel-smooth and comfortable. The Ti bikes are not showing up until sometime in December - at least the best estimate! This would be a great bike for the Randonneur or light "credit card" tourist. Not light enough to be a racer, but for the 99% of us who rarely (or don't) ever race, it one of the nicer production steel bikes designed to do a lot of things fairly well. The roads around here are often chip-sealed and the slightly larger tire really helps in making those micro-vibrations disappear.

    Depending on where you are, there should be a Salsa demo day scheduled sometime in your area. Hopefully they or the dealer will have a Colossal your size and you can give it a spin. This bike is not particularly light, but rides a lot lighter than it is. Like an El Mariachi, the handling just feels "right" almost as soon as you get on it. It is kind of like a bit-edgier Casseroll with disc brakes, and a bit less tire clearances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ATBScott View Post
    88Rex - the Colossal is available - your dealer should have them if they put them on the season's order. If they were late in line, they should be getting them soon. We started getting them about 3 weeks ago. Very cool bike - steel-smooth and comfortable. The Ti bikes are not showing up until sometime in December - at least the best estimate! This would be a great bike for the Randonneur or light "credit card" tourist. Not light enough to be a racer, but for the 99% of us who rarely (or don't) ever race, it one of the nicer production steel bikes designed to do a lot of things fairly well. The roads around here are often chip-sealed and the slightly larger tire really helps in making those micro-vibrations disappear.

    Depending on where you are, there should be a Salsa demo day scheduled sometime in your area. Hopefully they or the dealer will have a Colossal your size and you can give it a spin. This bike is not particularly light, but rides a lot lighter than it is. Like an El Mariachi, the handling just feels "right" almost as soon as you get on it. It is kind of like a bit-edgier Casseroll with disc brakes, and a bit less tire clearances.


    Sounds good. I'll have to see what my LBS has to offer in regards to Sasla.

    FWIW, my intentions for the bike are, ironically, my go fast bike and race bike. I had a BMC that was light, fast, and great, BUT didn't quite give me that lively feel. It was a "race" bike that wasn't fun to ride/race. My La Cruz, although not a "race" bike, is more fun to race and ride. I sold the BMC and upgraded the La Cruz. My La Cruz is running double duty.......CX racer and Road Racer. The Colossal would fill my role of racer perfectly. I would expect to have it around 19lbs with my race wheels (just a bit lighter than my La Cruz) . Light enough for me....

    I'm a bit of an oddfellow.

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    Yep the Colossal has me salivating for sure. I am saving my pennies currently and hope there are some left in Jan-Feb when I should have enough duckets to get one!
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    What are these going to weigh?
    Rudy Projects look ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    What are these going to weigh?

    This is purely speculative on my end as I have not seen one yet, but I would be willing to bet between 20-21 lbs would cover it going by the parts, and considering the average weight of a chromo frame.

    I am not turned off by the weight as I know it will do everything I want and more.
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    So - a 56cm weighs in at 21 Lbs 10 Oz without pedals, according to the Park Scale here at the shop. More than I would have guessed after riding the bike, but not from picking it up.
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    So about 22.5 lbs with pedals. Sounds about right. Definitely has some potential for weight loss.

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    Ti version with Ultegra!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 88 rex View Post
    Anybody in line to get one? When will they be available?

    This bike ticks all the boxes for me.

    I love the color. I love the panel graphics like my current La Cruz and like the older Salsas. Disc brakes. ENVE tapered carbon fork. Road bike only. It's got everything I need/want.


    Man that is gorgeous!!!
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    Has anybody picked up a Colossal lately? I'd love to read a recent review!

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    I'm building my Ti Collosal tomorrow. CAN NOT WAIT...

    I'll post a review early next week.... Shooting for sub 8kg build...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macbeth View Post
    I'm building my Ti Collosal tomorrow. CAN NOT WAIT...

    I'll post a review early next week.... Shooting for sub 8kg build...
    Can't wait to hear about it! This bike is on top of my list for a spring purchase.
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    Crappy iPhone pic, but today is the best day ever... This thing is AMAZING...

    More details soon, I promise...
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    wow, that is a sick looking bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macbeth View Post
    Crappy iPhone pic, but today is the best day ever... This thing is AMAZING...

    More details soon, I promise...
    Its awesome looking. How does it ride? What do you think the weight came in at?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No_Roads View Post
    Its awesome looking. How does it ride? What do you think the weight came in at?
    Rides amazing... Previous to the Colossal I was on a Cannondale Synapse HiMod... The Colossal is just as smooth but a bunch snappier and handles SO much better... Best decending bike I have ever owned...

    Build kit is SRAM Force, Stans Alpha 340 Disc wheels with Hutchinson Intensive 25s set up tubeless. Total weight with cages, pedals and garmin mount is 8.3kg... Heavier than my Synapse for sure, but the wheel and tyre combination is lighter and it FEELS like a much lighter bike to ride...

    SO happy...

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    I'll be looking to try one of these this spring as well. For me, the question will be whether or not I like the ride better than my vaya. I ride the vaya almost exclusively on the road and bike paths, but I am running some cushy 42s... Might be hard to give those up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seewhatididther View Post
    I'll be looking to try one of these this spring as well. For me, the question will be whether or not I like the ride better than my vaya. I ride the vaya almost exclusively on the road and bike paths, but I am running some cushy 42s... Might be hard to give those up.


    LOL.....I'd gues it probably rides a little different than your Vaya...especially with 42's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 88 rex View Post
    LOL.....I'd gues it probably rides a little different than your Vaya...especially with 42's.
    IKR? Everything else I ride is harsh by comparison! I'd still like to try one though. I need to toughen up!

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    I work at a Salsa dealer, and I'll be interested to hear feedback about Colossal vs. Vaya...

    At the moment my assumption is that we won't sell many steel Colossals as I think they are gonna be quite heavy, and the Vaya 2 is LOADS more versatile for not much of a weight penalty...

    Will be interesting...

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    more builds of colossals anyone?
    also, anyone knows how much does the steel frame weighs?

    thanks

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by BuntyMan View Post
    more builds of colossals anyone?
    also, anyone knows how much does the steel frame weighs?

    thanks
    I'm a week in and a number of rides down with the steel colossal. It's stock right now and weighs in just under 23lbs (56cm). This bike ROCKS.

    to reiterate a comment earlier, it is SO smooth and solid when going mach speeds down hills. And although not the ti version, it still has that getup and go feeling that i find so inherent in ti bikes.

    going to ride the 28's for a while, but may move down to 25's later. we'll see. The only way to seriously knock a few lb's off the total weight is a wheelset upgrade. otherwise you're only nipping at it with post, stem, cranks, brakes etc (not that those won't come in time, too).

    I'm a steel rider, and when i got on this whip, it was like a dream ride.

    Thinking about that when Chris king releases his road disk hubs

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    sweet! lots of info here!
    can I ask you a couple of questions if you don't mind?
    how tall are you/inseam? From the website, I should go with the 56cm frame, too. But being new at this "road bike malarky" I could use some help! Also, what stem length?

    I wonder how much do the stock wheelset weighs... I've eyed a couple that are around 3.3 lbs (1500 g) and I was wondering if that's acceptable, or not.

    anyway, thanks for your post! very helpful!

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    Everybody's body and riding styles are different. I have long legs, a short torso and long arms, so I had to put a 120mm stem in place of the 100mm that was on there, and set the saddle pretty far back with an upwards tilt (but this is very specific to my riding style and feel, i tend to slide forward and prefer to lay nice and long).

    In all honesty, I'd try to ride the bike and feel it out. That's the best way to know. Otherwise, I'm ~5'10 & 143lbs and dont' know my inseam.

    I think frame size comes down to one simple question –*do you want to feel like you're riding in the bike, or on top of the bike. I prefer the former.

    Acceptability of weight? To whom? I'm totally happy with the weight of the bike. I'm not a racer, so an 18lb bike isn't really something i *need.* sure, in time, it could be nice to lighten the bike up a bit, but it's already a very reasonably weighted steel bike considering the component spec it comes with. And when climbing, I don't feel the weight, especially with the gearing of the apex. I tackled the manayunk wall two days ago, and i'll tell you, it wasn't the weight of the bike that deterred me from summiting that beast… : ]

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    I am not a racer. At the moment I am using a on-one 29er, without suspension and singlespeed (36*15).... using it on the road with 700*40. so I am not exactly concerned about weight in general. And like you I often find hills that I cannot climb and weight is not the reason why..
    But, if I buy a different bike, well I want it to be different (does this make sense?). By looking online I saw that the frame of the colossal weighs not far the one of my inbred... now I don't need a super racer-13lb bike, but maybe an 18 could be what I would like (with all respect for your ideas, that is), given that I am already covered should I need a "tourer" (by adding gears to my current bike).

    And thanks for the info re. sizing. I am very similar so at least I would know what size to choose!

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    I put in an order for a TI model on Friday... Gonna build it up with campagnolo centaur (10sp)

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    Post some pics when you get it! I'm slightly tempted by the steel Colossal sitting at the LBS, but not tempted quite enough to bite. It's a beautiful bike though.

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    10-4 I will

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    Joining the ranks soon Just bit the bullet on a special order one from my LBS today. CAN. NOT. WAIT.
    I bought a Casseroll instead a few months back and didn't so much as regret it as I found myself longing for the flash and dash of the Colossal. So after months of talking myself out of it, I placed the Cass up for sale and a deposit on the Colossal.
    I'll post pics about this time next week!

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    Another soon-to-be Colossal rider here - just ordered a 58 ti frame built up with Force and Stans Alpha 340 wheels. Kept the salsa bars/stem/seatpost spec'd on the factory bike though I did step down to 25 tires. No idea what it'll weigh in at and not really concerned - goal is a comfortable all-day-rider that will go up and down really well. Pics to follow when it shows up.

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    ^That's going to be sweet! Anybody with a 60cm post pics!

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    Gonna be a long weekend. Expecting delivery Monday morning and buildup later that day by my LBS, pickup by 5pm close.
    I got the steel version, size 51(I am a short female rider) and will stay stock except I think it begs for a King headset in anodized orange. Time crunch with racing season coming, so I probably will wait and make the headset switch at the first full tuneup after cable stretch and seating of parts.

    You guys that got Ti, since this is sortof a new from drawing board nitche category bike & geo, were you concerned at all that you might not like it? I briefly gave the Ti some consideration but that was my fear.

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    I don't think the Colossal is that niche, aside from the discs. If I had a little fatter budget I'd have bought the Vamoots I've always wanted - if everything I've read is true though the Colossal will scratch that itch perfectly.

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    Ah, okay. Perhaps I was getting bowled over by all the talk that this was some new bike geo or something came up with by Salsa designers and testers.
    So just a road bike with disks....got cha!

    Whelp, either way....here he is(yes, "he", I call it my cheater bike since I sold my plush easy going Casseroll for my spicey stallion racer)

    I haven't ridden it for more than a few blocks at this point. My LBS got behind and it didn't get finished until 8pm last night then I had family obligations afterwards. So tonight is the shakedown ride of 20 miles. It defianately is more aggressive!

    Stock so far. I have an orange King headset on order to put on at first tuneup.

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    What's with the platform pedals?

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    I do not like clipless or flats & straps. I have rode both, tried both, was not fond of either system. Platforms with pins work best for me and my Converse All Stars as my biking shoes on all my bikes(unicycle, cargo, fatbike, and road).

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    Nakedbabytoes - beautiful bike! If I wasn't so invested in my current road bike, I'd snap up a steel Colossal in a heart beat!
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    Colossal

    Nice bike babytoes! Look forward to your first ride report

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    First ride report:
    24.75 miles in 1:30. Rode intown paved bike trails that wind all around Lincoln Nebraska.
    Great weather at 80 degrees with low humidity and light breezes from the South at 5-7mph.

    The bike rides fast. It accelerates quickly and corners very well. The ride quality was exactly as I had hoped, right in between my plush steel 38c Casseroll and my 23c Quintana Roo Carbon Fiber tri bike. Yes, you feel the road but it actually is in a good way as it reminds you that you are going fast on a bike. But after 24 miles, I don't feel like I need an Advil and ice on my back! The fit is aggressive but not uncomfortably so, an aero position was easy to achieve and hold, yet riding upright and enjoying the view was equally as easy and rewarding. The coolest part is that both my big water bottles fit in the frame triangle! I had to choose one long and one short on my Cass and my Roo only allowed one bottle cage in the small aero triangle, making you mount extras behind your seat or in the tri bars infront of you.

    The SRAM double tap shifters are definately cool but will take some getting used to. I had Tiagra before and the brake levers were involved in downshifting. With SRAM white, the double tap shifters do both up & downshifts. I do like the solid feel of the brake levers, something I never got used to with the Tiagra and the movement in them, even when you didn't want to shift and just brake. The shifting was crisp and quick, quiet operation although the ratchet clicks in the freewheel are very loud when coasting(maybe because the rest of the bike is so quiet and the tires make no noise on the pavement).

    The bars are not as comfy as the short & shallows that were on the Cass, mainly due to the lack of the "ergo" section in the curl portion. Apparently I used this area more than I realized! But the rest of the bar is adequate and has good width and girth.

    The brakes are good and quiet riding. They stop well and feather quite easily on downhills.

    I really liked the ride of this bike and the geo worked well. It was everything I hoped it would be and then some! The 51 fit me solidly at 5'3" and the bike is very light and responsive for my 115lbs of "bigness"! It will work well as a casual riding bike with some get up & go, a road machine for piling on the miles and not taking all day to do it, along with racing my duathlons and a few road races.

    The steel rides exceptionally well and the carbon fork smoothes out the road vibration. It was quite easy to hit mid 20s on the flats and maintain that speed for long stretches. Everything I was looking for in a bike. Very very happy. This one is a winner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakedbabytoes View Post
    I do not like clipless or flats & straps. I have rode both, tried both, was not fond of either system. Platforms with pins work best for me and my Converse All Stars as my biking shoes on all my bikes(unicycle, cargo, fatbike, and road).
    I'm actually pretty similar in that regard; not really interested in clipless. So, what platforms are those? I keep looking for good ones to put on my Fargo.

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    They are VP-001 anodized sealed bearing platforms with screw in pins. They are pretty wide and flat, but thin. I also have Tioga Spyder Ds on my Pugsley, slightly smaller foot area but they are thicker and I would also recommend those as well.

    I have some Eastern Pro BMX type pedals with screw in pins on my Unicycle. I wouldn't recommend them for a bike. They are heavy and thick and the foot area is huge. But they work well on a unicycle where weight isn't an issue and you have to mount free standing and want a large foot target.

    My cargo bike has cruiser type flats, no pins, made by Valvert. Barefoot or sandal riding was the reason for that choice. We take family rides on it to the park or swimming pool.

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    So I have a crushed rock quarter century ride on Saturday night and thought that it might be sortof freaky deaky to put some knobbies on the Colossal for better cornering and general grip.
    So I bought some 700x28 Kenda Karvs, was worried about front fork clearance, and this is what you get:
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    Lol! Now, I dunno why I find this so funny but I do. The bike is a "Colossal" which usually means BIG(I do realize the bike is named after a local hangout near Salsa HQ) and mine is tiny being a 51. Then you add baby knobbies and the whole bike is a goofy joke in itself.
    But anywho, if you are looking for grippy bumpy tires that will fit the Colossal, Kenda Karvs at 700c x 28c will fit and fit with clearance room.

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    I think its to do with the fact its a colossal road bike to conquer the blacktop.

    My dad's ti version has the 28c challenge Parigi Roubaix with a little more clearance but it rides like a cloud. Additionally it will dominate the dry clay based dirt roads around here as well.

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    Got home yesterday and my new Colossal was waiting for me. Got it unboxed and put together pretty quickly but ran out of daylight. Made it out for about an hour today for a shakedown ride and short answer is I'm very pleased! Verbose details below:

    A little background for context...I'm coming off a Litespeed Vortex I've been riding for the last ten years. For some reasons I can explain and a few that I can't I wanted to stick with titanium. Was truly lusting after a Moots Vamoots but still couldn't quite stomach the bill, maybe in a few years. I'll be 40 next month and wanted something a little more relaxed than the Litespeed but not full-blown touring bike - stumbled across the Colossal and was more or less hooked once I found out about the ti version.

    Ordered up a custom build with full Force & Stans Alpha 340 wheels with 25mm tires. I'm 6'1" and 190lbs, ordered a 58cm frame. Considered spec'ing a 160 vs 140mm rotor on the front, but ultimately went with 140. Using the scientific, carefully calibrated fish scale it came to 18-ish lbs, could be 19. I'm not a weight weenie so wasn't too concerned but am pleased with where it fell. I'm big enough that I can break delicate things.

    Impressions - it does exactly what I wanted it to. Very stable yet lively and quick enough feeling I don't feel like I've gone straight to a beach cruiser. Need to put some more miles on it before I play with swapping anything to dial in the fit, but it feels pretty damn good out of the box. Did a fair bit of climbing on my short ride and it felt great in and out of the saddle. Some good downhills too - got up to around 40mph and handled it easily. The roads around here can be variable in the quality of the surface and this bike feels very smooth over the irregularities. I doubt it's any one factor which delivers the ride, no doubt a result of the cumulative effect of the frame, fork, geometry and slightly chunky tires.

    Only two minor gripes. I'm not massively impressed with the BB7s (yet). I'm used to the full hydro on my mtn bikes and the more precise modulation they seem to offer. Maybe as the pads get a little more broken in they'll feel more powerful or maybe I just need to get used to them - either way stopping power was adequate but I'm left wondering if, based on my weight, I should have gone with a 160mm rotor on the front. I'll have much better feedback after the Death Ride!

    Second gripe is a minor one given that it's aesthetic, but on a frame with this price tag something I would think would have been done better - the head badge doesn't seem to be attached squarely, seems to be mounted a bit off to one side. Silly I know and I doubt anyone (beyond me) would even notice it, but it's such a a nice looking bike a little imperfection jumps out at me. Are those just glued on? Something I can fiddle with once I get the guts to pry on it?

    Anyway, pics...

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    Nice!

    That's about how I'd do it too - except I'm not a real fan of SRAM road groups, so I'd probably do an Ultegra compact group. Bummer about the "little details" - but you're right - for what you're paying, and for the premium level claims, it oughtta be perfect. The devil is in the details, and I've found that to be the Achilles heel for most the Q brands - great ideas, great execution, but the little things do get overlooked sometimes. QC is a bit lax.

    The C is on my short list of bikes to test.

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    Nice bike, but you must peel the rim stickers.

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    man that bike is sexy

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    Whew...whew! Nice ride!
    That really looks sharp! Salsa makes a decent quality Ti frame, a good entro until you can get that Moots! Go earn it by riding the crap outta the Colossal! Your BB7s will break in nicely but no, they certainly aren't hydros.

    A week + into my 2, absolutely ZERO compliants. The little curls too some getting used to hand wise but now they make sense considering the bike, I actually quite like them now. I have 150 miles on my Garmin's "Colossal" bike's log, so for a week and a half, I guess that is pretty decent. I have my first Duathlon with it Sunday, can't wait to compare the numbers on my ride from last year. I had a carbon fiber tri bike but it was so uncomfortable and twitchy that I bet I beat my time on steel this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakedbabytoes View Post
    I do not like clipless or flats & straps. I have rode both, tried both, was not fond of either system. Platforms with pins work best for me and my Converse All Stars as my biking shoes on all my bikes(unicycle, cargo, fatbike, and road).

    Sounds like you and I have the same setup. I love my all stars and platforms.

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