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    2017 Salsa bikes

    Any word yet on next years Salsa's?

    My wish list is a 29+ Spearfish.

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    Hmmm...I started to type something out, but honestly, the things on my '2017 wishlist' for Salsa already have, or are about to be released, by Advocate - the Hayduke already is what the El Mar should have become a year or two ago (and probably will), a boosted version of a Fargo-esque bike (soon to be released) and a gravel bike made with a good steel frame/carbon fork (the Lorax). And a couple other things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    Hmmm...I started to type something out, but honestly, the things on my '2017 wishlist' for Salsa already have, or are about to be released, by Advocate - the Hayduke already is what the El Mar should have become a year or two ago (and probably will), a boosted version of a Fargo-esque bike (soon to be released) and a gravel bike made with a good steel frame/carbon fork (the Lorax). And a couple other things...
    Well, hopefully not a boosted Cutty with a threaded BB. I have just bought the 2016 one

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    My LBS hinted at a short travel 29+. Guess we'll see soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach417 View Post
    My LBS hinted at a short travel 29+. Guess we'll see soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_papa_nuts View Post
    Woodsmoke 29+
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    Woodsmoke a replacement for the Deadwood? Looking at possibly picking up a Deadwood but might wait and see what else is coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tincup69 View Post
    Woodsmoke a replacement for the Deadwood? Looking at possibly picking up a Deadwood but might wait and see what else is coming.
    I think all of the Deadwoods are sold out, including frames. If they're going to make another 29+ bike, it probably won't be a rigid drop bar bike.

    On another note, how does anybody know anything? Where are these names coming from? Both Woodsmoke and Timberjack sounds like Salsa names, but I can't tell if this is a joke or they have some insider information...
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    Those names are real.

    There is also a new Alternator dropout that will allow for changes in wheel size without screwing up bb height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    Those names are real.

    There is also a new Alternator dropout that will allow for changes in wheel size without screwing up bb height.
    But, why/how do you know? I don't get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buell View Post
    But, why/how do you know? I don't get it.
    How do you think? Lots of people on the forum work in the industry in many capacities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    How do you think? Lots of people on the forum work in the industry in many capacities.
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    I've seen rumors that the Vaya is going away. I'd really like a 57cm frame, but frames and completes appear all sold out. Any word on the future of the Vaya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbiker View Post
    I've seen rumors that the Vaya is going away. I'd really like a 57cm frame, but frames and completes appear all sold out. Any word on the future of the Vaya?
    Vaya is not going away. Not this year, anyway. No idea on sizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    Vaya is not going away. Not this year, anyway. No idea on sizing.
    Awesome, thanks! Now I just need to be patient until the 2017s are available...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjbiker View Post
    Awesome, thanks! Now I just need to be patient until the 2017s are available...
    I hope that whatever they come out with will actually be available to buy.
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    If this thread's staying on the first page can we get a mod to delete that apostrophe?
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    these names are great
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    Vaya is not going away. Not this year, anyway. No idea on sizing.
    And the El Mar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratherbeintobago View Post
    And the El Mar?
    I don't remember, honestly.

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    The Woodsmoke sounds pretty interesting...
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    Is the Timberjack 27.5 or 27.5+? I wonder what it might be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratherbeintobago View Post
    Is the Timberjack 27.5 or 27.5+? I wonder what it might be.
    My guess is a boosted 27+ hardtail to replace the El Mar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejj View Post
    My guess is a boosted 27+ hardtail to replace the El Mar.
    Yes, I'd be surprised if there's no hardtail in the range. When's the official launch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratherbeintobago View Post
    Yes, I'd be surprised if there's no hardtail in the range. When's the official launch?
    Probably at Saddle Drive, July 24-30th
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    Anyone know what the Woodsmoke 29+ will be? I'd guess a hardtail flat-bar trail bike with somewhere between 120-140mm of front travel?
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    good guess. I know they are going to have a 27+ sus hardtail. Confirmed today.

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    Don't know how accurate, but the 29+ my LBS was talking about was a short travel FS. By the way, they don't sell many QBP bikes, but sell more S brand and Giants than any shop in the SE USA. I do hope they are right tho. Also, would love a 29+ El Mariachi type HT. Just sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach417 View Post
    Don't know how accurate, but the 29+ my LBS was talking about was a short travel FS. By the way, they don't sell many QBP bikes, but sell more S brand and Giants than any shop in the SE USA. I do hope they are right tho. Also, would love a 29+ El Mariachi type HT. Just sayin'
    I don't recall that. I do remember a 29+ HT as well as a 27+ ht, but my memory gets fuzzier on it the farther out we get from the half hour I got to look at the catalog. I don't remember any NEW FS bikes. Redpoint 26+, Pony Rustler 27+, Spearfish, Horsethief, and Bucksaw 4" are the FS bikes, and they were all older models, or already announced.

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    no new FS bikes, just the hardtails and updates to the rest of the line up (and some fat bike stuff)

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    Quote Originally Posted by buell View Post
    Anyone know what the Woodsmoke 29+ will be? I'd guess a hardtail flat-bar trail bike with somewhere between 120-140mm of front travel?
    Man I hope your right! Could it be where all the OEM Pike 29+ forks are going...........?
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    That's a pretty expensive fork--my guess is Fox 34. Maybe if they do a top level version it would have a Pike.
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    No Fox, just Pike, Yari, and Recon

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxfixed View Post
    No Fox, just Pike, Yari, and Recon
    Cool. The Yari is a good fork for the use and money when shopping a pike style bike. The Recon is max 120 travel, right? Maybe they put a sektor on instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parenzo View Post
    Well, hopefully not a boosted Cutty with a threaded BB. I have just bought the 2016 one
    same here.

    I gotta say, having stuck the 30mm internal diameter Roval Traverse carbons on my Cuttie with 2.3" tires, I think a 29+ Cutthroat/Deadwood combo would be pretty awesome
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    Not sure if previously mentioned, but i have heard these new bikes are carbon/aluminum only.

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    Time to move to sequoia or rlt 9 steel then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    Not sure if previously mentioned, but i have heard these new bikes are carbon/aluminum only.
    I'd be surprised if the El Mar replacement (if it exists) doesn't come in steel rather than aluminium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ratherbeintobago View Post
    I'd be surprised if the El Mar replacement (if it exists) doesn't come in steel rather than aluminium.
    All i heard about were the two bikes mentioned a few weeks ago. Neither appears to be steel and i think the mariachi is dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsukurac View Post
    Time to move to sequoia or rlt 9 steel then...
    not saying those are bad choices, but I would be absolutely amazed if they discontinued both the Fargo and the Vaya (or changed these steel-only beasts into carbon or aluminum)
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    Maybe they are trying to leverage Surly more as the "go-to brand for steel?"

    Regardless, that's a shame. I have little interest in gravel or bikepacking bikes with aluminum or carbon frames.
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    I ws only referring to the new models... No news on Fargo or other current models losing steel except that the mariachi is done

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    Fargo, Vaya, Marakesh, and Powderkeg are the only steel bikes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold View Post
    There is also a new Alternator dropout that will allow for changes in wheel size without screwing up bb height.

    Quote Originally Posted by pdxfixed View Post
    2017 sees the Fargo get boost spacing and the ability to run 27+/29/29+. They basically tweaked the geometry of the Deadwood and made it the default Fargo platform.
    Does it do this by swapping the new alternator dropouts in order to negate any bb drop?

    And what other differences are there between the Deadwood and the new Fargo? I imagine the Deadwood uses Cobra Kai while the Fargo uses Kung Fu?
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    Quote Originally Posted by buell View Post
    And what other differences are there between the Deadwood and the new Fargo? I imagine the Deadwood uses Cobra Kai while the Fargo uses Kung Fu?
    Hopefully they made the geometry actually work with a 29+ wheel. I was not at all impressed with a few things on the Deadwood, and there was definitely room for improvement there in terms of geometry.

    I would be a bit surprised to see a Fargo that worked with all three wheel formats without some sort of compromises though. Perhaps if the wheel size is dictated by frame size, it would make sense that this would be the scheme for the Fargo going forward- That is, smaller sizes would work with 27.5+ and larger with 29+, with a swap of the Alternator to allow for geometry differences coming from a 29"er wheel. Making a small, or medium Fargo work for all three sizes would be a big compromise in my opinion, but maybe there is something there I don't know about that makes up for the discrepancies involved with switching to such disparate wheel diameters.
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