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    2014 Salsa bikes

    Any info on the 2014's? I was looking for the Horsetheif, Spearfish, or El Mar.

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    Mid July is when allot of info starts to leak out. But, the current FS models are now on sale, maybe changes are coming for next year.

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    It's coming soon July 22nd...

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    dangit, I want every one of these bikes

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    ti mukluk
    fargo gets alternator dropouts
    el mariachi gets a bend in seat tube for slightly shorter chainstays
    ti el mariachi with paint

    now salsa ti is being outsourced to taiwan, no more lynskey --- that could be good (cheap!) or bad (cheap!).

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    They made the Ti change for the 2013 model year actually...

    From what I have seen come through the shop here, the frames are not even on the same planet in terms of quality when it comes to comparing them to Lynskey.

    The new ones have double/triple-butted and shaped Ti tubing. Who else is doing that?

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    New Mamasita? Or how about an al El Mar?? Patiently waiting...

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    I saw a glimpse of the new El Mars with Bmoreken's link to GT Productions. But no Sita.. I am waiting to see that.. Please post if anyone catches a pic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjc_n_tucson View Post
    I saw a glimpse of the new El Mars with Bmoreken's link to GT Productions. But no Sita.. I am waiting to see that.. Please post if anyone catches a pic.
    You won't be seeing a Mamasita because it has been discontinued. Salsa decided to use the El Mar ti as the premier race/adventure rig in the line up going forward.
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    Cool, thanks GT. Sucks, but makes sense I guess. It would have still been nice to see an anodized alum HT from Salsa. I know you stated before that they have no plans of making a carbon HT race bike, but I can see them making one down the road. Especially, after making the new carbon beargrease. If they do, I am sure it won't be called a Mamasita. It appears they been going away from those "latin" type names into those more "adventurous" type naming schemes. Which is cool.. It makes you wonder though, how long before the El Mar will be called the El Mar...

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    What about the full suspension Mukluk ??? Still waiting on the fork I assume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjc_n_tucson View Post
    It appears they been going away from those "latin" type names into those more "adventurous" type naming schemes. Which is cool.. It makes you wonder though, how long before the El Mar will be called the El Mar...
    You've nailed it pretty much as far as naming things goes there at Salsa. They wanted to move away from the older perceptions of the brand which were tied into all the Latin based names.

    However; the El Mariachi is a legacy bike, (If I am not mistaken, the longest running name still in current use at Salsa), and has a bit of equity with us riders. As long as the model stays relevant, I don't see it going away.

    If anything changed, (frame material, basic design, wheel size, etc), then I could see that name being retired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INEVTBL View Post
    What about the full suspension Mukluk ??? Still waiting on the fork I assume.
    All the scuttlebutt points to this fall as the time when the Rock Shox fat bike fork will debut. I also assume the bike will be a Split Pivot bike, and that may push the bike back a bit as far as anything we might see for sale. I would imagine all efforts were made to design the Spearfish and Horsethief first.

    I bet hard tail fat bikes with front suspension will come first. Muks and Beargrease fattys with front suspension? Oh yeah!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    You won't be seeing a Mamasita because it has been discontinued. Salsa decided to use the El Mar ti as the premier race/adventure rig in the line up going forward.
    Boooo! I was hoping for a new "better-looking" Mama. What now for a good Sub $1K Alu frame?? Kona? Yeti? Looks like most upper end hard-tails are going Carbon.

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    Any news/pics of the Vaya and Colossal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitz3641 View Post
    Any news/pics of the Vaya and Colossal?
    That's what I want to see too. Other than new colors is there much they are going to do with those bikes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    That's what I want to see too. Other than new colors is there much they are going to do with those bikes?
    One can only hope ; rear brake inside rear triangle, Shimano hydro disc(=di2 shifting) About as maintfree U can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitz3641 View Post
    Any news/pics of the Vaya and Colossal?
    Colossal Pics

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    Like the grey Colossal color scheme.

    Here is a link that was posted in the Fargo thread...

    Salsa unveils carbon fat bike and updates Fargo | Bicycle Times Magazine
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    @Davp.. Couldn't agree with you more.. Yeah, I like me a nice quality alum frame.. Hopefully my 2012 Sita lasts me.. If not I can see me replacing that frame with an Alum Air 9.

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    Salsa missed the boat this year. Their prices are getting up into boutique levels and they are not doing anything to warrant the price increase. Split Pivot? Really? No direct mount brakes? fugly looking shock yoke on the horsethief and spearfish.

    Not impressed at all.

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    What's wrong with Split Pivot? (Serious question) Seems like the reviews are good so far. Prices are still better than the major name brands too.

    And an ugly shock yoke. What a relevant criticism.

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    Eh, he probably rides a fixie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancake Adventure View Post
    They made the Ti change for the 2013 model year actually...

    From what I have seen come through the shop here, the frames are not even on the same planet in terms of quality when it comes to comparing them to Lynskey.

    The new ones have double/triple-butted and shaped Ti tubing. Who else is doing that?
    They still weigh close to the Lynskey made ones (or more) and availability has not increased but the price sure has. Meh. Triple butted, double butted, all things I'm sure nobody will notice (not to mention i dont remember anyone asking for it) on the trail.

    I like most of their new bikes though. Ti Mukluk is nice (minus he paint).
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    Haha, sure.

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    I'm not digging the paint on the Ti frames either. Its just something to get chipped and scratched. The raw titanium with etched graphics was perfectly subtle.

    I was hoping for an El Mariachi travel with S&S couplers, but that doesnt look likely

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    Quote Originally Posted by rth009 View Post
    I'm not digging the paint on the Ti frames either. Its just something to get chipped and scratched. The raw titanium with etched graphics was perfectly subtle.
    Same here

    Why mess with a perfectly fine finish...
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    Yeah, I'd prefer raw Ti with Etched graphics. Clean, classic look that never gets old.

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    I dunno, I see the appeal of the etch, but at the same time, I'm so, so bored with it.

    People will vote with their wallets I guess.

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    BTW, does anybody know (Guitar Ted???) if the Vaya Travel stays the same for the 2014 season, or it has been discontinued? TIA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich007 View Post
    BTW, does anybody know (Guitar Ted???) if the Vaya Travel stays the same for the 2014 season, or it has been discontinued? TIA
    Stays the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich007 View Post
    Same here

    Why mess with a perfectly fine finish...

    The titanium frame marketplace is generic in terms of overall look. I can not count, (speaking for myself), how many titanium frames are raw with etched graphics. From 20 feet away, they all look pretty much the same.

    Salsa recognized this and wanted to set themselves apart from the crowd of raw with etched graphic titanium products. the half painted frames were their answer.

    I'm not saying their answer to this perception is right, but I get that the old look was like everyone elses stuff. I can see where they are coming from in terms of marketing. When you see a 2014 titanium Salsa, there will be no mistaking what it is. Or at the very least, it won';t look like everyone elses titanium bikes. In that view, they have succeeded. Whether you like it or not is another thing entirely.

    Personally I like some of them very much. (Titanium El Mariachi, for instance) But some of them don't do much for me, (titanium Fargo), so that's my take.

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    Any plans to make the El-Mariachi 120mm fork-compatible. I'm feeling like I'm a bit behind the times when compared with FF29.

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    2014 Vaya Lineup

    @Rich007, here's a photo of the 2014 Vaya lineup
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    2014 Salsa bikes

    Green Vaya...nice. Kind of sucks the Vaya Ti was ended last year. Wonder how the SS bike sold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by limba View Post
    Yeah, I'd prefer raw Ti with Etched graphics. Clean, classic look that never gets old.
    So is a solid color paint job. Why not offer Raw or Painted? Stealthy Ti would be bad-ass. Don't know about the half & half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosprings View Post
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    Thanks, there it is... I must have missed this pic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    Stays the same.
    Much appreciated Now, I need to hunt down the frame... Hopefully, discounted a little... LOL
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    On Ted's take on the Ti El-Mars. I feel the finish is a little TOO subtle. I often get asked what the bike is - as it's not obvious. I'd like a big fat colour band around with a great big fat blobby SALSA logo in it! :-)
    Oh - and 120mm fork compatibility! X

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    Any new reviews on the 2014 Spearfish? Dealer camp is over and it would be great to hear what bike shop people thought about the new spearfish.

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    Does anyone knows if they add fender and rack mounts to Colossal and Warbird, and, more important, did they ditch that
    awful PF-30 bottom bracket ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ojos Azules View Post
    Does anyone knows if they add fender and rack mounts to Colossal and Warbird, and, more important, did they ditch that
    awful PF-30 bottom bracket ?
    Not sure on rack mounts. (I'm betting no), but the BB changed. To a BB-86, I believe. I saw a Salsa response in another thread to that effect.
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    Maybe I missed some links, but I haven't seen the Fargo Ti 2014 anywhere. Any links?

    My questions are basically:
    1) Did it also get the carbon fork? (I would assume so, but not sure.)
    2) Is the fork also available for a straight headset? That is, can I mount it on say a Fargo Ti 12 frame?

    Does anybody know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fargoer View Post
    Maybe I missed some links, but I haven't seen the Fargo Ti 2014 anywhere. Any links?

    My questions are basically:
    1) Did it also get the carbon fork? (I would assume so, but not sure.)
    2) Is the fork also available for a straight headset? That is, can I mount it on say a Fargo Ti 12 frame?

    Does anybody know?
    #1- Yes
    #2- No, tapered steer tube only.
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    I just recently picked up a lightly used Generation 1 Fargo that I was thinking about trading in for a Surly ECR and I was wondering what your thoughts were. I like simplicity not suspension, so I like how the Gen 1 Fargo is specifically built non suspension corrected. But I would like to be able to run 29+ tires. I don't think that I could justify having them both. Would I be making a mistake by getting rid of this classic bike?

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    whoops i posted that on the wrong thread

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    So when can we expect to see the 2014 models? I think that the horsethief frame would be perfect for me.

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    I checked with someone from Salsa via twitter. Sucks that the 2014 Fargo carbon fork is not compatible with 2013 Fargos. I really hope Salsa will come out with a fork that's backward compatible.

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    2014 Salsa bikes

    Does that mean there's no steel salsa fork that will fit the new generation?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyrcr View Post
    Does that mean there's no steel salsa fork that will fit the new generation?


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    The Fargo 3 for '14 has a steel fork. I also would imagine that aftermarket steel forks will still be made available through QBP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unagidon View Post
    I checked with someone from Salsa via twitter. Sucks that the 2014 Fargo carbon fork is not compatible with 2013 Fargos. I really hope Salsa will come out with a fork that's backward compatible.
    That's not a clear answer. The fork should fit a 2013 Fargo with the 44mm head tube. (Tapered steer tubes fit 44mm head tubes with the proper head set.) It wouldn't be complimentary to the geometry though, as it is about 20mm longer axle to crown than a 2013 fork.
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