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    Weight difference carbon 29er element to aluminum element frame

    As the title states... Any one weigh both and know the difference? The threads I pulled up don't look like much difference on total bike weight, but the parts spec were not equal. I want to buy one, but wanted to check on what the better deal per dollar was.

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    The all carbon frame is likely in the 2.2kg range (based on the weight of the 26" carbon Element frame) and the alloy version is likely 500-600gms heavier.
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    My aluminium Element 970 weighed in at 2920 gram with shock, nothing else. Don't know the carbon weight.

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    I've seen it in a few places that it is under 4.5 lbs. A quick conversion to grams and that is under 2000 grams.
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    I thought I read BC ed review somewhere state a 1 lb weight savings with the carbon frame even though it has the alum rear.

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    Re: Weight difference carbon 29er element to aluminum element frame

    My 999rsl weighed 2020 grams with shock and seatpost collar. Size Lrg

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    Did your 999rsl have a headset in it?
    My 20" seems heavy at 3270 grams or 7.2 pounds for frame, collar, shock, headset and a Specialized carbon cage.

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    No headset, no cage, no bottom bracket.

    The RSL uses drop in bearings. THe 'headset' is molded into the frame. Which is one reason it can drop another 50-100 grams depending on headset cups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kananaskis View Post
    Did your 999rsl have a headset in it?
    My 20" seems heavy at 3270 grams or 7.2 pounds for frame, collar, shock, headset and a Specialized carbon cage.
    3270gms seems way out of the range of production tolerances. That's a full Kg heavy. Is that with a BB installed? Is that calculated or measured weight for that package of stuff?
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    Nope, I do not lie... I stripped it down this past winter, no BB. I did forget that it did have the X7 FD still on it. Sold all the Sram stuff for a friend and went Shimano. It is an XL I guess.

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    Well, the cage is probably about 40+, the derrailleur is probably 150+, so not that much different than the other guys lrg Aluminum frame.

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    All the components listed including the X-7 FD should only weigh 250gms, and there's typically only about 150-200gms variation in the carbon frame weight smallest to largest, so 3000gms is still a lot heavier than you'd expect. That's closer to the weight of the alloy 970 frame.
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    Re: Weight difference carbon 29er element to aluminum element frame

    Right, he hasn't said which frame he has, so I am assuming Alu.

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    Hahaha, sorry it is aluminum, my bad... Really didn't mean to hijack. But I did learn I want a carbon frame.

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    It's not a highjack. You gave a pretty good estimation of the XL element Alu

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    A good reference point, that does mean that there is about 900gms difference between the carbon and alloy frames
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    Re: Weight difference carbon 29er element to aluminum element frame

    That crazy almost 2 lbs. My 19.5 in 09 GaryFisher HiFi pro was 2600ish.

    But, the HiFi wasn't exactly durable. Broke the swing arm and seatstay.

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    I went for an alloy 970 over a carbon 950, I reckon there's a pound difference in weight overall due to the higher spec on the 970. My wallet is also heavier as a result
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    I weighed my large 970 in at 2920gram. So there really is a weight saving of 900 gram between the carbon and alu version.

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    Weight difference carbon 29er element to aluminum element frame

    Quote Originally Posted by zonoskar View Post
    I weighed my large 970 in at 2920gram. So there really is a weight saving of 900 gram between the carbon and alu version.
    So two pounds in saved weight?

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    Close enough to 2 pounds difference to make no never mind.
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    Coming off a 23lb Carbon 26" SC Blur XC and now I have XT, XTR, Tubeless and some carbon parts. I'm still 26.5 lbs. for a 20" frame. I'm not a weight weenie, but defiantly want a carbon frame and better wheels so I can be riding a 23 -24 lb'r again...

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