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    Are RM's Wheeltech Hubs really this bad? Now What?

    Hey guys/gals, I am i So Cal and have a 2012 element 930 with four months/400 miles on it and the rear whelltech xc hub just blew ( loud pop/snap and now freewheels) stranding me in nowwhere land. I have been riding over 20 years and have never had that happen
    I contacted RM and they referred me to my online dealer in Canada( yes, I prefer LBS but i purchased late in year and no one had them). I am getting the run around so warranty looks bleak. Maybe RM will step up?

    Questions: Is this hub even worth going through the hassle of warranty? I will have to pay shipping to Canada,wheel re-build,etc. Maybe i just got unlucky but I don't have much faith now. How does a hub on a $2500 bike fail so quick?

    My gut tells me just to upgrade the whole wheel which i planned to do in a year or so but just now catching back up from bike purchase. I am also unhappy to be "forced" into an upgrade four months into ownerwship. I need the 12x142 rear. If I can only buy the rear right now, what hub/wheel do you guys recommend? I read up on other forums and know there are millions answers but do i go with pre-built ( like dt swiss tricon or find builder? I could swing around $400. Opinions on my course of action?

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    Freehubs do fail for various reasons, luckily it wasn't a $1300 XTR wheelset, Shimano have decided they won't warranty their $250 titanium freehubs when they explode.

    A lot of hubs can be near their limit with 29" wheels and big cassettes and high torque riders. A custom rear wheel with a rim of your choice and a DT Swiss 350 or 240S hub (with Star Ratchet system) would be solid, same with something like a Hope Pro 2 Evo (although noisier). The DT hubs are a breeze to service, they come apart without tools to lube the star ratchet, and they last a long time.
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    Mine failed too . . . . after two weeks. I agree with Rocky, go with a DT 350 and a solid rim (mine is a wtb i23). Not too expensive and has been solid. Check on Ebay and see if you can find a deal, though it might be hard to find the 12x142. Why warranty something that will blow again? Hey RM, the rear hub is not a place to skimp! Can't really fix it out on the trail.

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    Rockyuphill, i sure appreciate your insight, my research has pointed me in that same direction ( those 2 hubs ,350 and hope) but it is nice to hear if from you as well.
    I have seen some sets on line with WTB I23 on line. I have the stock RS recon gold fork up front. do you know the spacing on the 20mm thru axle. i have seen 20mm x 100 , 110,120 and don't know what I have.

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    All 20mm axle hubs are all the same 110mm width, and those are different from 15mm x 100mm front hubs. The DT 350 oversize front hubs are convertible to any axle format

    Universal Cycles -- DT Swiss 350 6 Bolt Disc Front Hub

    BTW, it's critical that you use the 6 bolt oversize 350 hub, the center lock version only converts between 9mm and 15mm.
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    Two local shops have had rocky send them new hubs and the shops were switching them out on demo and sales bikes. The hubs are horrible, ive seen 5-6 broken rear hubs now.

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    Hey rodeoj, curious if you know, was Rocky replacing them with a different type of hub or a new variation of the same hub?

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    The replacements are heavier, that much I remember. Still wheeltech.

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    Reviving an old thread...

    Anyone have details of the wheeltech hubs that Rocky supplies with the 2015 Blizzard fat bike?

    My Blizzard is on order, and I was leery of these hubs from the start. It really seems like the freehubs on a lot of house brand hubs are problematic... specialized comes to mind among others. Only hubs I really trust these days are Hope, so I'm wondering if I should bite the bullet and rebuild (at least the rear wheel) with a Hope hub rather than risk getting stuck somewhere with a broken freehub?

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    It looks like the Salsa 3 fat bike hubs are made by Formula, so the Wheeltech hubs are likely a 12mm thru axle version of the Formula Fat bike hubs.
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    The Blizzard Fat hubs are not holding up well, weird reverse pawl design that doesn't look like any formula I have seen. They seem to fail after a couple of weeks of riding. When you get the bike pull apart the hub and degrease it thoroughly and lube it with tri flow and hope for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinS View Post
    The Blizzard Fat hubs are not holding up well, weird reverse pawl design that doesn't look like any formula I have seen.
    The hub is made by Quando. RM asked them to spec the hub with it's most durable freehub - able to handle lots of torque. I just got mine. We'll see how it holds up. I like the design, personally. Gives the pawls a little more backbone then if they were mounted on the freehub itself.Are RM's Wheeltech Hubs really this bad? Now What?-img_20141125_122953125.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr View Post
    The hub is made by Quando. RM asked them to spec the hub with it's most durable freehub - able to handle lots of torque. I just got mine. We'll see how it holds up. I like the design, personally. Gives the pawls a little more backbone then if they were mounted on the freehub itself.Click image for larger version. 

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    Thanks for the information and the photo... any idea on the POE of the freehub?

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    Hope they do okay for you, my buddies one lasted 2 weeks and his second one is making noise. His is not the only one to go back to our local shop so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinS View Post
    Hope they do okay for you, my buddies one lasted 2 weeks and his second one is making noise. His is not the only one to go back to our local shop so far.
    I'll be paying very close attention to the rear hub when I get my Blizzard next month. At the moment I'm trying to decide if I should preempt the problem by changing out the grease before the first first ride. I'd likely use Slick Honey since I have a big tub of that and it is supposed to handle low temperatures very well. I've used it in my Hope Pro 2 Evo hubs without issue.

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    I would strongly suggest degreasing/re lubing them at the start, a buddy who is a Rocky dealer (not my local shop) is saying it can help, he has had a couple of blizzard hub failures too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinS View Post
    I would strongly suggest degreasing/re lubing them at the start, a buddy who is a Rocky dealer (not my local shop) is saying it can help, he has had a couple of blizzard hub failures too.
    Thanks for the advice, I will very likely do just that.
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