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    Quote Originally Posted by EnglishT
    Very Very nice Lukassy (ps: @pic2 - use less brake )
    Thanks EnglishT!

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    My 2008 Vertex Team (scandium). This is my first RM bike...I really like how this one turned out so there maybe others in the future. This is all Rockyuphill's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilabear
    My 2008 Vertex Team (scandium). This is my first RM bike...I really like how this one turned out so there maybe others in the future. This is all Rockyuphill's fault.
    I only facilitated things, it's really Larry87's fault. All I said was that your long term relationship with titanium would be seriously compromised after you rode one of those scandium team Vertex hardtails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockyuphill
    I only facilitated things, it's really Larry87's fault. All I said was that your long term relationship with titanium would be seriously compromised after you rode one of those scandium team Vertex hardtails.
    You ruined everything Rocky!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pizzaman.light
    For all of those Trekkies (as in ST not Trek Bikes) comparing the two Vertex's is like looking at the Enterprise D and then the Enterprise E. Wait, did I just post waaaay too much info about me?

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    My 2009 Team Element 2/3rd of the way up the Timber Express at Fernie Alpine Resort. The bike is a total rocket ship.
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    I was going to build up this pretty frame but didnt, anyone want it? Brand new 2008 Vertex 18" and a brand new race face deus xc headset

    I do really like the paint schemes on the RM, and this thing feels light as crap
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    You'll like it.
    I just built up a 2008 Vertex Team and its a really predictable, and fun bike.
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    I would if i wasnt trying to save for a downhill bike at the moment, i'll let this thing go cheap
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    You'll need to buy a For Sale ad on MTBR or the mod's will nuke your posts that offer stuff for sale.
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    So many options.... although many of them were extremely muddy after a huge thunderstorm the previous evening.
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    Does anyone still ride steel ?





    Got the frame rather cheap and built it up with some spare parts... Race Face crank, XT derailers and brakes, Avid levers, Mars Elite fork Raceface bars, no name stem, Race Face bars, Pro Logic headset, Oury lock on grips, XT triggers...

    The rather excellent rear wheel came off my old Hammer and I upgraded the 7 speed freehub to an 8 and I built up the front wheel with an Suntour XC Pro hub laced to an NOS Rhynolite.

    The Blizzard is the sweetest hardtail I have ever ridden... it handles like it is on rails and climbs like a goat on speed.

    A back injury has kept me off the trail for over a year but I got the bike a little dirty tonight...
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    I've just rebuilt my Hammer. I'd bought a carbon vertex to replace it, used some of the parts off it on the Vertex, upgraded them whilst on the vertexand then enough parts to rebuild this - all I had to buy was some new forks!


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    08 Vertex 70

    here's our Vertex frame build in "townie" mode
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    New to me Switch in CO

    Inaugural "trail" ride, fun times were had, looking forward to more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by culturesponge
    here's our Vertex frame build in "townie" mode
    What have you applied over the black paint on that frame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockyuphill
    What have you applied over the black paint on that frame?
    variously sized Reflexite triangles (i'm a strong believer that being visible/eye catching on the road helps prevent accidents) the wonderfully patient mrs culturesponge took about 10 hours to apply the Reflexite to her bike

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    since the snaps she's re-done the area around the RM badge where she'd first started - looks killer now
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    It's a Rocky, and it has knobbie tires.

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    here is my 09 RM element 50, just finished my first 100km enduro on the old girl down in Mogo, Australia Only saw once other RM he whole day. t went pretty well, no punctures or mechanicals over 2800m of climbing. it climbed great and ws great on the single track. i was thinking of getting the altitudfe but i think i made the right decision with the element, maybe the altitude is a bit too much bike for me? it was more comfortable than i thought i would be. a bit of bob with pedalling but i think my butt was happy for the relief. overall much better than my old jekyll.

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    here is my Element with Fox F29..
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    Arty blurred motion shots from a hand held camera while riding my Altitude through the woods on Sunday. You really need two hands to ride log piles. This is what the ride would have looked like to a kidnap victim being carried away through the woods on the bike handebars.

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    Not sure whether to ride the Element or the Uni



    Decided it would be a bad idea to not take the Element

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    Ok - a few from a special Brecon Beacons trip:

    (Its hard to tell on that first pic, but those rocks are unbelievably loose at that point)









    *unfortunately couldnt use my RM that day, but still worth posting them up, I think.

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    My wife isn't interested in Mountain Biking, but that doesn't mean she can't enjoy a Rocky Mountain Metro. Happy Birthday Baby!
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    Quote Originally Posted by the202
    My wife isn't interested in Mountain Biking, but that doesn't mean she can't enjoy a Rocky Mountain Metro. Happy Birthday Baby!
    I got my gf a bunch of bike parts of her birthday, along with a funny card that says "I got it on Ebay". It DID NOT buy me any brownie points

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    Here are some pictures of the ETSX I built up for the gf. She has FINALLY grown into the new ride the past weekend, and like the full suspension more than her hardtail.




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    new to me Switch in CO

    First pic was a couple weeks ago down in Parker, the second pic is from yesterday (Wed, 9/23) up in Evergreen! Good times, every time!
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    Rocky Mountain Altitude 70 carbon, not mine but still worth posting.












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    That 'tude 70 is shy hiding in the bushes...
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    boy do those "tudes" look sexy! I am starting to get a itch, that may need scratching!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the202
    My wife isn't interested in Mountain Biking, but that doesn't mean she can't enjoy a Rocky Mountain Metro. Happy Birthday Baby!
    It's nice to see something from the other pages of the RMB catalog

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    from france , my altitude 70 2009

    i will change the picture size ( too large ) sorry
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    Old skool Slayer in beautifull SE paint!

    Wy shouldn't RM bring it back, by the way? Something like a 120mm Element
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    Quote Originally Posted by de lars cuevas
    Old skool Slayer in beautifull SE paint!

    Wy shouldn't RM bring it back, by the way? Something like a 120mm Element
    my words.......with 140mm Geometrie the perfect All-Mountain Bike ever

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    once more.......Rocky Mountain Vertex@Home


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    Quote Originally Posted by kameraguy
    Here's a pic from Sea Otter 09. My first race ever, and it was a blast on the Slayer

    Argh. Stop with the still life style and the localised sharpening/dodging/burning and underexposed background w kit lens all the time. Try another approach. It's not a bowl of fruit! And stop wanking over your bike in PS. You'll go blind. I bet you leave that number on there 'til next year like it was your first kiss.
    Something about the idea that you'd take you bike to a field, pose it, take the shot, go home, sit there and edit it to the point of actually using layer masks and selection tools just to make it look like a piece of cake in a recipe book so you can show it off, just makes me cringe. Sorry dude. Just a critique from a fellow photog and biker.
    I prefer the snaps of people using their machines for what they were designed for. The soft-focus under the willow tree, down by the stream, romantic, golden hour "I'm going to slip my cock into the back spokes in a minute (I already did the front)" shots are a bit weird imo. They're all the same too. Just like this one. It's like you're posting shots from you and your bike's honeymoon sex-tape - and that's probably very close to the truth. Don't tell me, you want to shoot weddings? Would need a much faster lens for weddings that's for sure. If you throw the background out of focus with a large aperture, you won't need so many cheesy effects to hide the nastyness. Better result. Less work. That's why good photogs use fast lenses for glamour (or portraiture) - which seems to be what you're trying with the bike.
    What exactly is the full workflow on that shot (other than taking the bike and camera to a field and back)?
    Shove card in reader. Open RAW conversion as it's such an important job. Import to Photoshop. Reduce contrast. Add a layer or two. Play with levels, curves, saturation. Change opacity. A bit of cloning. Selectively delete through some layers. Maybe some perspective adjustment, leveling, cropping. Then we get busy with the dodging/burning/masks/selections/layers/sharpening to darken the background, sharpen the bike, illuminate the bike and its immediate vicinity whilst hiding the rest. Oh, I nearly forgot the gaussian blur for the soft focus effect.......gradient mask?.......oh, and maybe a plugin or two (dragonise?)...quick wank...resize...save...upload.
    Isn't that lot a bit excessive. It's a nice bike, but JAYZUS H....! Does your Mrs know about this hussy/tramp/floozy of a bike that you've been banging?
    End result is overdone. Looks superimposed. If you're going to cut it out (which you effectively did to selectively sharpen it and to darken/soften the background) then why not superimpose it onto an MTB trail. Or, maybe Photoshop a little mini-skirt on it just short enough to show the underneath of the saddle and put the stem/grips in some stocks. I think you'd like that. Ooooh baby. Cover the legs of the fork in hot custard! Doo itttt! You may as well, it would be no more work, no less obvious, no cheesier and at least it would be funny. You have the tools. Next time show us some real bike (soft) porn. I don't want to see you actually humping it though!
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    New question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ecogeek
    Argh. Stop with the still life style and the localised sharpening/dodging/burning and underexposed background w kit lens all the time. Try another approach. It's not a bowl of fruit! And stop wanking over your bike in PS. You'll go blind. I bet you leave that number on there 'til next year like it was your first kiss.
    Something about the idea that you'd pose your bike take the shot, sit there and edit it to the point of actually using layer masks and selection tools just to make it look like a piece of cake in a recipe book so you can show it off, just makes me cringe. Sorry dude. Just a critique from a fellow photog and biker. I prefer the snaps of people using their machines for what they were designed for. The soft-focus under the willow tree, down by the stream, romantic, golden hour "I'm going to slip my cock into the back spokes in a minute (I already did the front)" shots are a bit weird imo. They're all the same too. Just like this one. It's like you're posting shots from you and your bike's honeymoon sex-tape - and that's probably very close to the truth. Don't tell me, you want to shoot weddings? Would need a much faster lens for weddings that's for sure. If you throw the background out of focus with a large aperture, you won't need so many cheesy effects to hide the nastyness. Better result. Less work. That's why good photos use fast lenses for glamour (or portraiture) - which seems to be what you're trying with the bike.
    "The soft-focus under the willow tree, down by the stream, romantic, golden hour "I'm going to slip my cock into the back spokes in a minute (I already did the front)" shots"

    Dude. I don't think anyone minds a little constructive criticism, but seriously...

    I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and chalk this up to someone having a bad day?

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    New question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ecogeek
    Argh. Stop with the still life style and the localised sharpening/dodging/burning and underexposed background w kit lens all the time. Try another approach. It's not a bowl of fruit! And stop wanking over your bike in PS. You'll go blind. I bet you leave that number on there 'til next year like it was your first kiss.
    Something about the idea that you'd take you bike to a field, pose it, take the shot, go home, sit there and edit it to the point of actually using layer masks and selection tools just to make it look like a piece of cake in a recipe book so you can show it off, just makes me cringe. Sorry dude. Just a critique from a fellow photog and biker.
    I prefer the snaps of people using their machines for what they were designed for. The soft-focus under the willow tree, down by the stream, romantic, golden hour "I'm going to slip my cock into the back spokes in a minute (I already did the front)" shots are a bit weird imo. They're all the same too. Just like this one. It's like you're posting shots from you and your bike's honeymoon sex-tape - and that's probably very close to the truth. Don't tell me, you want to shoot weddings? Would need a much faster lens for weddings that's for sure. If you throw the background out of focus with a large aperture, you won't need so many cheesy effects to hide the nastyness. Better result. Less work. That's why good photogs use fast lenses for glamour (or portraiture) - which seems to be what you're trying with the bike.
    What exactly is the full workflow on that shot (other than taking the bike and camera to a field)?
    Shove card in reader. Open RAW conversion as it's such an important job. Import to Photoshop. Reduce contrast. Add a layer or two. Play with levels, curves, saturation. Change opacity. A bit of cloning. Selectively delete through some layers. Maybe some perspective adjustment, leveling, cropping. Then we get busy with the dodging/burning/masks/selections/layers/sharpening to darken the background, sharpen the bike, illuminate the bike and its immediate vicinity whilst hiding the rest. Oh, I nearly forgot the gaussian blur for the soft focus effect...............oh, and maybe a plugin or two (dragonise?)...quick wank...resize...save...upload.
    Isn't that lot a bit excessive. It's a nice bike, but JAYZUS H....! Does your Mrs know about this **** of a bike you've been banging?
    This keeps getting better the more you edit. Have you let it all out yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ecogeek
    Argh. Stop with the still life style and the localised sharpening/dodging/burning and underexposed background w kit lens all the time. Try another approach. It's not a bowl of fruit! And stop wanking over your bike in PS. You'll go blind. I bet you leave that number on there 'til next year like it was your first kiss.
    Something about the idea that you'd take you bike to a field, pose it, take the shot, go home, sit there and edit it to the point of actually using layer masks and selection tools just to make it look like a piece of cake in a recipe book so you can show it off, just makes me cringe. Sorry dude. Just a critique from a fellow photog and biker.
    I prefer the snaps of people using their machines for what they were designed for. The soft-focus under the willow tree, down by the stream, romantic, golden hour "I'm going to slip my cock into the back spokes in a minute (I already did the front)" shots are a bit weird imo. They're all the same too. Just like this one. It's like you're posting shots from you and your bike's honeymoon sex-tape - and that's probably very close to the truth. Don't tell me, you want to shoot weddings? Would need a much faster lens for weddings that's for sure. If you throw the background out of focus with a large aperture, you won't need so many cheesy effects to hide the nastyness. Better result. Less work. That's why good photogs use fast lenses for glamour (or portraiture) - which seems to be what you're trying with the bike.
    What exactly is the full workflow on that shot (other than taking the bike and camera to a field)?
    Shove card in reader. Open RAW conversion as it's such an important job. Import to Photoshop. Reduce contrast. Add a layer or two. Play with levels, curves, saturation. Change opacity. A bit of cloning. Selectively delete through some layers. Maybe some perspective adjustment, leveling, cropping. Then we get busy with the dodging/burning/masks/selections/layers/sharpening to darken the background, sharpen the bike, illuminate the bike and its immediate vicinity whilst hiding the rest. Oh, I nearly forgot the gaussian blur for the soft focus effect.......gradient mask?.......oh, and maybe a plugin or two (dragonise?)...quick wank...resize...save...upload.
    Isn't that lot a bit excessive. It's a nice bike, but JAYZUS H....! Does your Mrs know about this hussy/tramp/floozy of a bike that you've been banging?
    Why are you constantly editing your post?

    This is apparently what you started with according to the e-mail notification I originally received:



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    No offense Kameraguy, but I just can't help myself. Seen your slayer. It's a posers bike. I know you're v proud of it. But looks are secondary to performance in my book. Esp as the 'special' looks of yours come mainly from your hard work in Photoshop and evidently a lot of preening rather than from great components, locations etc. Cleanie Weenies is what people obsessed with cleaning their bike are known as. Good maintenance is one thing...
    Then, the photographic style bothers me. It's cheesy. All your shots are samey. Nice enough but very very samey. The sort of still life style with excessive localised dodging/burning and selective sharpening with the persistently underexposed background. Try a different approach once. It's not a bowl of fruit!
    And use a quality lens instead of just the kit. It's not fast, or sharp, or wide enough to really do anything creative. You're trying hard to impress I know, I'm sure it's fun, you love the praise, and you might fool most of the people most of the time. But serious photogs will spot it all a mile away. Sorry dude. Had to let rip. Call it a harsh critique designed to help you improve. I prefer all the snaps on here. Much less pretentious, just as good really. Well, they could be with as much PS work. And the best thing about them -for me- is that they're dirty functional bikes. Not just bling. Nice to see people are having some fun and not just posing and/or cleaning and/or sitting in front of their computer wanking over their bike in PS.
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    You've added quite a lot more since.

    I have to say i'm flattered that you've spent this much effort to "critique" and offer "constructive criticism" from a fellow photog and biker....
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    Dear mods,

    Can we cut and paste this into a photography forum?
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    You mean something like a RMB photo gallery
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    Priceless post right there Ecogeek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kameraguy
    Why are you constantly editing your post?

    This is apparently what you started with according to the e-mail notification I originally received:



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    Here is the message that has just been posted:
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    No offense Kameraguy, but I just can't help myself. Seen your slayer. It's a posers bike. I know you're v proud of it. But looks are secondary to performance in my book. Esp as the 'special' looks of yours come mainly from your hard work in Photoshop and evidently a lot of preening rather than from great components, locations etc. Cleanie Weenies is what people obsessed with cleaning their bike are known as. Good maintenance is one thing...
    Then, the photographic style bothers me. It's cheesy. All your shots are samey. Nice enough but very very samey. The sort of still life style with excessive localised dodging/burning and selective sharpening with the persistently underexposed background. Try a different approach once. It's not a bowl of fruit!
    And use a quality lens instead of just the kit. It's not fast, or sharp, or wide enough to really do anything creative. You're trying hard to impress I know, I'm sure it's fun, you love the praise, and you might fool most of the people most of the time. But serious photogs will spot it all a mile away. Sorry dude. Had to let rip. Call it a harsh critique designed to help you improve. I prefer all the snaps on here. Much less pretentious, just as good really. Well, they could be with as much PS work. And the best thing about them -for me- is that they're dirty functional bikes. Not just bling. Nice to see people are having some fun and not just posing and/or cleaning and/or sitting in front of their computer wanking over their bike in PS.
    ***************


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    You've added quite a lot more since.

    I have to say i'm flattered that you've spent this much effort to "critique" and offer "constructive criticism" from a fellow photog and biker....
    Well. First I thought it was too harsh. Then I thought I'd save my breath and just delete it all. Which I did - was just going to post the min 3 characters required. Then I thought I'd try rewording it. Then, I thought F IT! I'm entitled to my opinion. This is definitely vom inducing gratuitous bike-humping. I'll tell it like it is! But, then I reread and corrected and edited typos, so it sounded reasonably tongue in cheek, but was in English.... Then I thought I'd better explain some of the work involved in cheesifying a shot like that so that others could understand the point. A bit of humour never goes amiss either. Some of the stuff I typed and deleted was a lot harsher. Like pointing out that the bike is underage!
    Now you understand the edits. And if the forum had allowed me just to delete and not dicked around with some 3character thing, the post wouldn't exist at all cos I did try and delete it. Anyway, sorry if it went over the line. I was just sick of the same ol same ol shots from Kameraguy turning a great bike-users' forum into a pretenders/masterbator's paradise. You have to admit, that it's nice to see the shots of people using their bikes and having fun. And also that there is a definite theme style to Kameraguys shots. Something along the lines of a 70s softcore porn flick. Just needs the bownacka,bownacka bass-line and Kameraguy slinking into shot in a leopard-skin gown saying he's just come to lube the bracket or some other shocking one-liner innuendo to get things started.

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    And, it's a bit odd that the coms deleted to try to be a little less rude whilst still freeling voicing my honest opinion were published anyway. What is the point of allowing edits?! OBviously it;s better to draft a com on wordpad/whatever instead of using the feature that I though was good for drafting. Didn't realise everything was kept forever to be used against you as/when desired.
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    You have to admit. I've got a point about the shots. And I've also got a point about *selectively* reposting altered content to portray people in a way that suits. Repost it all including the typo edits!
    If you make a post, and then revisit it, even after a short period of time, your feelings may have developed, changed, reduced, or you might just decide you could express them better, or that you want to try a different angle. You might edit as a result and not expect to have the stuff you decided to change posted anyway. But lesson learned:
    Just don't post unless it's an ass-kissing session. Lol. Forum will be much better. NOOOT.
    Repost the orginal edit of this one mods to show that I added the word "NOOOT" later - and then just added the word "later" after the 2nd NOOOT.
    Gotta be true to yourself and if that means telling it like it is sometimes when you might be better of just lying down.
    Oh. Breaking news! Just changed typo "contend" to "content" 1st para.
    Another good reason to use edits is that you don't need to make so many posts! All the above could have been in just one if I didn't now know that edits are used against you. Lol.
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    To be honest, I totally understand everyone has an opinion and not everything posted will be agreeable. And really, I don't mind anyone ripping on my photography. It's all fair game when you make things public. So no offence taken with criticism at all.

    However let me pose this to you. I quoted your multiple edits simply because i found it quite amusing just how things progressed. I mean, if you take a step back and read what you wrote and how it all played out, how would you take it if this happened to you? This thread was quite a pleasant celebration of Rocky shots. The comments i saw from you was quite childish IMHO. Certainly looked like you had the intent to specifically attack me.

    But anyway, it's all good as far as i'm concerned.

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    Yes, I'd take it badly too. That's why I tried to delete it all and ended up with so many edits. However, call it tough love. There is a valid point. And for what it's worth, I'm sorry it offended you. And I suppose you are right, I did indeed single out what I perceived to be a weak/diseased shot from the herd and predate it's raggedy ass in a sort of darwinian feeding frenzy. Perhaps it was the low seat that give it the sort of crippled look. Is the frame too big?

    I think it was just the very consistent style that was the most OTT I've seen in some time combined with a sense of pretentiousness. Your PS techniques are like the fingerprints of a style-killer. I could spot another one of your shots a million miles away and I've only seen about half a dozen. They're all the same and to me, they had a whiff of an ill placed sense of superiority cos you have silly (impractical) grips, a number and a photo editing program. There are better riders, with better components, who have better PS skills and almost certainly better camera gear, but most grew out of bragging about it.
    You can tell a lot about a rider from his bike. I'm lucky enough to occasionally ride with a guy in the top 5 in the world in 24hr XC (deliberately vague), you won't find any bling on his bike. All function. Commands more respect imo to build the best ride and ride it hard than to spend more to make something worse than it could be by adding needless bling and then posing and stroking/polishing it. When you see a lot of bling and super clean bikes, it always means someone's not riding hard enough or doesn't really understand or care about the FUNCTION some components. Or they're prepared to sacrifice performance/cash that could be spent on performance for posing. For the amount you spent on that, you could have got a better/lighter ride. But you made it one step short of riding in a sequinned (sp?) vest and then took dirty reader's-wives pictures of it instead of taking your amazing frame and thrashing it all over the mountains like it was designed to do. Didn't sit well with me. Had to vent in case the dirty habit caught on.
    Admit it, you didn't get those grips cos they were the lightest, best value, best performing grips for the job. You got them specifically to match and damn all other considerations. Primary control points, and you choose bling over function. That is CRAZY. Those grips could end up costing you a lot more than just the extra money and some giggles from serious riders. What if you crash?..
    Last edited by Ecogeek; 10-20-2009 at 03:02 PM.

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