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    Bonking ... not feelin' well OUCH! My ETS-X50 broke!

    I was riding in Flagstaff, AZ, on the Schultz Pass trail. I had a nice long downhill run going when I heard a loud bang. I thought a rock had kicked up and hit the downtube. Then I heard the rear tire dragging and thought I had a flat. Got off to check it out and this is what I found. Now I'm waiting for a new frame. Had the bike just over a year, and rode it a lot. Love that thing! Sad to be loosing the cool paint job, but can't wait to be riding it again.
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    Hey that's a p[icture of my etsx70, exact same place to the milimeter. Wow that is really uncanny, the only way i can tell that isn't my bike is I don't have a cage.

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    I hope you have warranty!

    That's not the kind of picture I wanted to see after having just built up a 2003 ETSX, to replace my cracked Instinct frame. Just curious, what size frame is that? Obviously that should not happen after 1 year of use unless you were doing big drops. Are you a heavy rider? What kind of mileage would you say you put on that frame?

    Hope Rocky gets you back up and riding quickly!

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    It's under warranty for sure!

    Yeah, it's under warranty. My LBS, where I purchased the bike, sent Rocky Mt. the pictures and is waiting for them to respond whether they want the frame sent back or not. The LBS is pretty sure that RM will just send a new frame. It's a large, 19" or 19.5", whichever RM makes (I think 19.5").

    I haven't done anydrops on it. I ride a lot, so the frame has probably 2000+ miles on it. I ride some pretty gnarly trails, but no real downhill/freeride stuff.

    I'm 6'-1" and 175 pounds, and I love this bike. It's rides extremely nice and handles everything. I can't wait until I'm back in action on it. Fortunately I have another bike to ride while this one is getting repaired.

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    Well I'm glad to hear you've got warranty. I sure hope Rocky won't have any issues with that kind of frame failure. It's not encouraging to see a frame fail with, what I consider, relatively low mileage on it. Good thing these frames have a 5 year warranty on them.

    Looking at the way the seat tube failed I'm thinking a stress riser could exist below the top shock mount and with the repeated forces of the shock being compressed it basically pulled that tube apart at the weakest point, which is usually right beside a weld. I'm seen Ellsworth Truth frames fail in a similar way.

    One of the reasons I picked the 03 ETSX frame was for the supposed stronger frame, especially the front end. I cracked the top tube near the head tube junction on my 01 Instinct and didn't want to go there again.

    I'm 6 feet all, weight 185 lbs, and also have a 19" ETSX frame so I guess I need to keep an eye on that area of the bike too.

    Anyways, I'd definitely like to hear how Rocky ends up handling this for you.

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    I'll post updates

    I'll definitely post updates on how RM handles the situation. I've always heard good things about their bikes and their customer service, that's one of the reasons I bought a RM.

    Hope you enjoy your RM. Definitely watch that area for any cracking or anything. Looking at the fracture close up you can definitely tell that the welding affected the tubing and was probably what caused the failure. The more I think back on the situation, the more I realize that I could hear a "groaning" and popping sound. I thought it was in the suspension linkage, but now I'm pretty sure it was the cracking of the frame before the tube finally came apart.

    The only good thing about the failure is where it happened. It didn't fail in a way that would hurt the rider, which I was very thankful for. My rear tire started dragging on the rear linkage, and I thought I had a flat tire. When I got off I realized that frame had broken. I'm definitely going to check the read shock out good because the frame breaking right there seemed to "over-extend" the shock. I'm hoping that it didn't do any damage. We'll see what happens when it's all back together.

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    I had a ETSX50 but sold it after a seeing a Etsx70 snap whilst climbing.That frame was a 19" also,shame as they ride well.

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    bphin, that's an 04 frame, yes?

    I can't tell from the pictures. Guess it could be an 03. Which is it? I know they've changed the tubing in the 04s and was wondering if that might have been the issue with your stress break. Then again, if your frame IS an 04, then the tubing has nothing to do with it I suppose.

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    Hey guys,

    Sorry for the stupid question, but doesn't RM have a lifetime warranty on their frames? Or is it different from country to country (I'm in Australia).

    One of the deciding factors on my recent ETSX-30 purchase was because of the lifetime frame warranty. Please correct me if I'm wrong...

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    Bonking ... not feelin' well I know the feeling

    I know the feeling well


    That's my 03 KHS XC704R

    1 month and still waiting for a replacement frame. The Australian distributor of KHS is hopeless (being polite)

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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin1610
    Hey guys,

    Sorry for the stupid question, but doesn't RM have a lifetime warranty on their frames? Or is it different from country to country (I'm in Australia).

    One of the deciding factors on my recent ETSX-30 purchase was because of the lifetime frame warranty. Please correct me if I'm wrong...

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    From Rocky Mountain's web site:

    We cover your frame from the date of purchase of your new ROCKY MOUNTAIN® according to the frame material and the type of use against defects in material and workmanship:

    CroMoly Steel**: Lifetime of Owner limited*
    Aluminum Front-Suspended**: 5 Years - limited*
    Aluminum Fully-Suspended**: 5 Years - limited* Hardware, suspension pivots and bushings, 1 year
    Downhill and Freeride: 6 Months - limited* Hardware, suspension pivots and bushings, 6 months.

    *Limited warranty refers to the limitation stated in sections 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 in your ROCKY MOUNTAIN® Owner's Manual, also listed below. All frames covered for perforation and corrosion for one year from date of purchase.

    ** Paint and decals are warrantied against defects in workmanship and materials for 1 year. Normal wear and tear are not covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Aussie
    I know the feeling well


    That's my 03 KHS XC704R

    1 month and still waiting for a replacement frame. The Australian distributor of KHS is hopeless (being polite)
    That seems to be some very thin tubing where it cracked. Was that a JRA or the result of a crash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwarwick
    That seems to be some very thin tubing where it cracked. Was that a JRA or the result of a crash?

    Karl
    Neither ...not saying I don't jump at all ...but only little xc stuff ... you know ... a foot or two at most. It was creaking for weeks before it went ...I couldn't find the problem ... then one night on the mag trainer .... bam ...pic tells the story.

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    My ETSX-50 Broke too

    Exact same bike....(2002 ETSX-50) which I bought in 2003 and have got about 14 months of riding on...Broke about 2 weeks ago. The frame cracked where the top tube meets the downd tube (at the weld). Was going uphill at the time. Looks like Rocky will replace but still waiting....

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    This seems to be a very disturbing trend. For me it has been 5 weeks waiting and still no word, though I have not been pestering my bike shop about it.

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    new frames in production

    apparantly (according to the warranty rep at my bike shop) there are no 2004 frames left anywhere. 2005's are in production and will be ready at the end of the month. Should be replaced by an '05 frame (which will come with a new rear shock).

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgibson
    apparantly (according to the warranty rep at my bike shop) there are no 2004 frames left anywhere. 2005's are in production and will be ready at the end of the month. Should be replaced by an '05 frame (which will come with a new rear shock).
    This the same story I have with my KHS ... I have to wait for the 05 frames ...unfortunately they can't seem to tell me when they are due

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    Upset This is unacceptable.

    Too bad RM can’t be proactive like Turner and address these problems on the board. With the high end bike they sale it seems like some major flaw like this could do considerable damage to their reputation as a frame builder.

    I currently own a 16.5” ETSX and was wondering, was it only the 19” breaking or smaller frames also? It seems a smaller frame would have an advantage over the larger; not only with a smaller lighter rider, but also less of a span to bridge between joints.

    As for having to wait for new production run to be manufactured; this is a totally unacceptable excuse for a delay in getting you back on the trail. I suggest that you bill for downtime. i.e.: canceled reservations for MB vacations, cost of bike rental, etc. While I strongly doubt that you would receive any monetary compensation. It would raise eyebrows in finance at RM and tie someone up having to deal with these invoices. Thus making it worth while for upper management to step in and kick some a$$ to get you a frame.

    RM is liable for their faulty design and should pretty much drop everything to make things right for you guys; not wait until it is convenient for them to start another production run.

    In addition I know a guy here that has had the same problem with his ETSX, also a 19” he went through 4 frames. His was an 02 so this is an well known flaw that should have been fixed by now.

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    While this is all very unsettling for me as a new ETSX owner, its hard to judge just how big a problem cracked ETSX frames really is. Discussion boards being what they are, you tend only to hear about people with problems and not all the satisfied customers.

    But I agree, one shouldn't have to wait for Rocky to produce next year's frames to get a warranty replacement. They are supposed to keep a certain number of frames for warranty purposes and if they saw them being used up faster than expected should of allocated more for warranty rather than just selling them off.

    Why not call Rocky Mountain directly and ask to speak with Customer Service and see what they have to say?

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    the etsx is prone to fail at that exact location. many other companies that have the same shock placement have the same problem. that's why you see the reinforcements on truth frames, nrs, etc. why rocky doesn't seem to want to reinforce this area is beyond me. i used to be die hard RM, but in light of some recent developments in the way RM deals with people, i am quite disappointed with the company itself. it's a shame cause they really do make bikes that ride very well.

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    I tend to agree that the shock mounts places a lot of load on the seat tube, and Ellsworth had a significant problem with their frames in a similar area. You'd think given the ETSX is a new deisgn, Rocky would of taken this into consideration with their design. The wall thickness of the seat tube looks to be about 2.5mm but it seems this just isn't enough in the real world. With the extensive use of computer modeling and stress analysis they should not have to guess on what was needed.

    Looks like this is going to cost them a lot of money replacing all these frames under warranty.

    I'd love to see a comment from Rocky on this.

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    Mine was a 19" frame as well...They have promised me my new frame by the end of the month...

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    I also think that larger frames are more susceptible....

    Quote Originally Posted by mak7066

    I currently own a 16.5” ETSX and was wondering, was it only the 19” breaking or smaller frames also? It seems a smaller frame would have an advantage over the larger; not only with a smaller lighter rider, but also less of a span to bridge between joints.
    The smaller span on the smaller frames would in theory make the tubeset more stout therefore not as susceptible to stress from the suspension movement...

    The thing that behooves me is fact that pre 2004 the tubeset was Easton RAD (used on freeride bikes), therefore theoretically stronger than normal Easton elite tubing (2004).

    Anyway that is a good question for the mass... "Have all the faulty frames been 19" frames or larger?"


    I know if my frame broke (size 16.5") I would go bananas... because it is such a nice ride.


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    Mine was a 19'er as well.

    The scary thing is that I had never done any drops, jumps, or crazy downhills. I had never banged the frame on a rock, in fact the frame was virgin clean. It broke while climbing, snapped EXACTLY where the first poster's did.
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    No, it's not limited to the 19" frames.........it just takes longer to occur in the 18" frame. You can detect the problem early on too. Just keep an eye on the seat tube, right below the weld on the inside. If you notice a 'blemish' in the paint, look more closely. If you see the paint "feathering" under the clear coat, the frame is already starting to fail. I noticed a sticker placed in that area on an ETSX-30 recently, so be sure to check under that as well.

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    So I notice http://www.supergo.com/ is selling etsx frames. My question is, are these 04 frames? Red? Never seen that color scheme. Does supergo buy leftover end of year frames and sell them at a discount? I have noticed these spot sales in the past with specialized and litespeed at hard to believe prices.

    If these are leftover 04 frames, then why are people being told "there are no 04 frames left" when RM goes and sells a lot to a retailer? I have no idea how the industry operates with respect to closeouts and model-year-end clearances, so if someone could explain this to me I would appreciate it.
    For all I know these are 02 or 03 frames and I'm venting at nothing.

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    Red ETSX frames

    The red ETSX frames are last years ETSX-30

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    New Frame is in...

    Quote Originally Posted by Managuense
    So I notice http://www.supergo.com/ is selling etsx frames. My question is, are these 04 frames? Red? Never seen that color scheme. Does supergo buy leftover end of year frames and sell them at a discount? I have noticed these spot sales in the past with specialized and litespeed at hard to believe prices.

    If these are leftover 04 frames, then why are people being told "there are no 04 frames left" when RM goes and sells a lot to a retailer? I have no idea how the industry operates with respect to closeouts and model-year-end clearances, so if someone could explain this to me I would appreciate it.
    For all I know these are 02 or 03 frames and I'm venting at nothing.

    My new frame arrived today as promissed. Apparantly the new frame looks sweet and the down tube is huge compared to the old frames...Hopefully yours arrives soon

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    Can you post a picture of that new frame if its different from the 2004?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwarwick
    Can you post a picture of that new frame if its different from the 2004?

    Karl
    Unfortunately I do not have a digital camera...but the frame looks to be exactly the same as the 2004. In fact I think it is a 2004...? They said it would be replaced with a 2005 (which it may be..but there is no difference from the 2004 frame as far as I can tell. The biggest difference from my 2002 frame is the down tube - which is almost twice the diameter of the other two tubes (is this the same on all of the 2004's...?). I also got a new rear shock (fox float RL with AVA).

    On a side note does anyone have any recommendations for the AVA setting for cross country riding with alot of steep terrain.....would you go Max volume or Min volume...? It is a 19" frame and I weigh 185. I ride the north shore in Van, BC which has lots of steep climbs and downhills...Any recommendations would be appreciated.

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    Supergo in Santa Monica has 2003 ETSX50's on sale for $1700.00 I put a $200.00 deposit down today and I was going to pick it up tomorrow.

    After reading these posts I'm getting my money back and driving over to Wheel World and buy a Kikapu Deluxe instead.

    Beat ... Everything about that bike, from how it looked to its specs to its ride (per mtbr reviews) was so, well, pornographic.

    Sigh ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shine
    Supergo in Santa Monica has 2003 ETSX50's on sale for $1700.00 I put a $200.00 deposit down today and I was going to pick it up tomorrow.

    After reading these posts I'm getting my money back and driving over to Wheel World and buy a Kikapu Deluxe instead.

    Beat ... Everything about that bike, from how it looked to its specs to its ride (per mtbr reviews) was so, well, pornographic.

    Sigh ....
    So a few ETSX's have broke, it still has warrantee. Personally I'd take my chanes on the ETSX vs the Kikapu as I've heard that the Kik, while being a nice bike, is very bob prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris
    So a few ETSX's have broke, it still has warrantee. Personally I'd take my chanes on the ETSX vs the Kikapu as I've heard that the Kik, while being a nice bike, is very bob prone.

    Many of them are breaking in the EXACT same place, by riders who are riding strictly xc. This has defect written all over it. I hope and pray that when I get my replacement frame, that it is an '05 and the defect has been corrected. If I get an uncorrected '04, I will be very wary that it will occur again. Until I get definitive proof that this problem is recognized and fixed, there is no way I would ever recommend this bike to anyone else. But then again it is your money, and your potential lost time without a working bike.

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    ... and if we just ...

    Well, I blew up my deal for the ETSX50. I might be wrong, but these posts convinced me that this is an issue. Maybe not a big issue of recall proportations, but it should't be ignored. Also, I'm confident that Managuense, bphin are clearly are not trolls. They seemed to be very credible.

    Unless I hear otherwise from RM, and I don't believe they read these boards, I'm staying away from RM. But man, it was hard to blow up the deal. I imagine it's kinda like tbreaking up with Selma Hayek.

    I'm not buying the Kik either. Yes, Kona's do tend to bob. I've ridden Kona FS and I own an OB hardtail (love their DJ bikes!). Great frames and that's what was what I was thinking about.

    Found a deal on an '04 Marin Susser, the mid-level TARA QUAD bike a few up from the Alpine trail, a Rocky Ridge or something. Only rode it round the LBS but I loved fit and feeling. I've heard that mono-q frames are noisy, but I didn't hear anything on my test ride (on the street) and really liked how it felt, which, I believe, is most important factor. If it feels good, buy it. It felt great. And my LBS (not Supergo or Wheel World) is willing to deal with me, plus they've given me great service on my Stuff, even though I bought it elsewhere.

    BTW, I had a conversation with an engineering friend and it turned to bicycles. I asked him if hand-welding being better than robotic welding is a marketing gimmick, and he said no, there are benefits, but there are also drawbacks, because at least robotic manufacturing and welding insures consistency. So, for example, if a Giant frame is bad, it's likely most others are bad at least those made during the same period. But if they are good, generally most all the frames will be good as well. Consistency is a plus with robotic welding ...

    Since the frame cracking seems to be just below the shock-mount weld, might this be a QC issue due to hand-welding? Just speculating.

    EDIT: I'm still fence siting on the RM ETSX50. None of the 30 or so reviews mention frame issues, most are post just after purchase. My initial deposit is off but I may pull the trigger still. They have two in my size, and Supergo sales people tend to push Specialized and Giant products, so one will be there at least through the week. (If not, oh well) I like the Marin, but nothing I've tested compares to the RM.

    I'm emailing RM but I doubt I'll get a satisfactory response, if any,

    As if anyone cares about my bike angst. I should shut up and go riding.
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    i would be more skeptical about going to supergo than buying a rocky mountain. i have had some bad experiences with warranty issues there, because supergo absolutely will not go to bat for you. don't forget that the shop you buy from has a huge role in determining how your warranty is handled. also, i haven't heard seen any 04 etsx frames break- rocky has had breakage issues with a lot of frames, but they usually correct their errors (rm7 problems addressed in rmx, slayer 02-03 problems addressed in 04, etc.). i haven't heard of any 04 etsx's breaking- if they have, it has been significantly less frequent than with the 03's. i would skip supergo, and try to get an 04 or an 05 etsx from a quality shop. (btw- all the 05's will have custom valved fox shocks, which is pretty neat.)

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    OK i got a couple of questions. are the 2003 ETSX bikes stronger then the 2004 ones cuz the 2003 ones defenitly look bigger. and i just bought a 2003 etsx-30 at a bike show and my mom lost the reciept for it. is it still under warranty from rocky mountain or do i have to go back to the bike shop and ask for anotehr reciept f they will give me one.


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    as far as warranty, it depends on where you live- some states (assuming you don't live in canada) don't require a warranty card. yes, the bike is still under warranty- you can register it online at rocky if you want your warranty to be documented.

    as far as the differences between the 03's and 04's, the 04's have different tubing and a stronger linkage mount on the seat tube (to correct for suspension forces cracking the seat tube in half). the 04's don't look as big, because the 03's use easton RAD tubing. yes, it's true that RAD has a stronger head tube junction, but no one seems to be ripping the head tubes of the 04's. the RAD tubing does nothing to address the problem that the 03 rockies had, however. so the short answer is yes, the 04's are stronger.

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    Upset I broke my 16.5" ETSX-50

    My 2002.5 ETSX-50 broke in the same place and it was a 16.5". I rode the bike hard for 14 months and got about 1400 miles and 240,000' vertical out of her before she broke. I ride x-country only and don't do any big drops at all though I do ride some pretty technical stuff. I was pretty surprised when I saw the break. My LBS (Gregg's Greenlake) was great and the Rocky rep shipped my replacement frame (2004 ETSX-70 with Float AVA/PP) without even seeing my frame. I was only out of a bike for 10 days which was rough though I managed it. Rocky Mountain did a great job in honoring their warranty and I feel I got a better bike out of it, I sure hope I don't break this one!

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    ets replaced

    my 02 ets x50 started getting stretch marks in that same area as if the frame was bending in between the two pivots. These marks got worse over the course of a year of riding so I called my shop, they had me bring it in immediatly and switched out my frame for a 2004. They said this was a problem on the larger frame, mine is a 20.5, but I think its mostly a design flaw. I ride my bike pretty hard on rough trails but dont do any big jumps im about 175 lbs. This is a common problem because the 05 models have some much needed reinforcing in that area. I was thinking about reinforcing mine with a piece of seat post pressed or epoxied inside the seat tube in that area so it wouldnt happen again but it would probably void the warranty.

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    Good job! interesting idea andrew

    Quote Originally Posted by andrew
    I was thinking about reinforcing mine with a piece of seat post pressed or epoxied inside the seat tube in that area so it wouldnt happen again but it would probably void the warranty.
    This might be grounds for RM not honouring the warranty. However, it sounds like a great
    idea for any early ETSX that survives the initial 5 year warranty. I tend to have long times
    when the bike is gathering dust. For instance, this year I crashed my road bike, breaking
    my pelvis and wont be back on either bike anytime soon. Hate to have my frame fail
    5 years + a day.

    If anybody does consider this retrofit I believe Loctite makes a pressed stud locking
    compound and chamfer both ends of the cut seat post. Make sure you clean the inside
    of the top end of the seat tube after insertion.

    Any RM dudes care to comment as to whether this would work.

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    My frame broke while I was riding on a flat fireroad, it just finaly gave. It was one of the 2003 models, 20.5" frame, and stock seatpost (not sure how long, but NO WAY did it come close to going thru the pivot point). Initially my LBS told me that the etsX was build to handle 6 foot drops and so it was obviously a defect (I'm definetly not a huckster). After they contacted RM, their story changed a little ".. the frame been riden hard .." (bullsh*t) " ... you should run a longer seat post ..." (what kinda crap is that? the post should break before the frame). Had me wondering if they were going to warranty it or not. After seeing the beefed up gussets on the 2005, I knew it should be a warranty job.

    Bottom line, RM replaced my frame on warranty in 3 weeks. They obvously know thay had a design flaw. What gets me is that they didn't admit it, they try to blame it on the rider and how far down the post it, that's crap. Admit it when you make a mistake.
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    06 etsx

    From the pictures on rocky's website, the 06 frames now have reinforcement in the area between the pivots...
    http://www.bikes.com/bikes/2006/etsx/index.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigred
    From the pictures on rocky's website, the 06 frames now have reinforcement in the area between the pivots...
    http://www.bikes.com/bikes/2006/etsx/index.aspx
    That definitely looks like a good idea to me
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