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    My Element 950 mods

    Just got done the first round of changes on my newly aquired 950 .

    Easton EA 90's set up tubeless
    Rockshok Reba RL
    Alligator i Link shift cables
    Carbon stem cap
    Assorted red detailing
    Presently comes in at 27.2 pounds .
    By comparisson , my Cannondale Rush(alloy) with carbon Lefty and carbon and
    Ti bits was 26.7 pounds .

    Not done yet ......
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    Soooo hot!

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    I really like all the red ano bolts, where did you pick them up.
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    I use to use anodized bolts on my other bikes but it got
    too expensive.
    Now I use nail polish or modeling paint

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    Yep ....sent a lot of money his way
    He has Ti spindles for Eggbeaters and other pedals
    at great prices .
    They are on my next round of mods

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    I just bought Ti Eggbeater spindles from Ward Industries. Very nice, 40gms lighter than the SL spindles for the pair for $50
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    Awesome.
    I love white bikes
    And the red-black-white colour scheme is my favorite
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Agree, very nice build. Great idea to paint the bolts in stead of using anodized ones. Saves a lot of money and also I wouldn't want to run alu bolts in my stem.

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    I had the Ward spindles on my last bike.
    After a couple seasons the threads went "soft" and
    I couldnt use them in other bikes although I think thats
    more of a Ti issue not Wards.
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    Nice build! Any particular reason you went from the revelation to the reba?

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    The thru axle on the Revelation was too wide for the Easton hub .
    Easton wasnt about to make dif sized hub caps till 2013 .
    So my shop swapped forks from another RM he had in stock (as it fit) .
    I saved a pound with the swap also
    I think the white fork looks better on it then the black one too

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    very nice!

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    The fork swap necessitated a different stem .
    The spacer stack with the Revelation was aprx 1"
    high (see pic with Easton stem) .
    The Easton stem was straight with zero rise .
    The stack with the Reba is way shorter ( see new pic....red spacer ) .

    It felt to low for me so I put a dif stem on it with a slight rise and now
    it feels pretty much as it did before
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccaddy View Post
    The thru axle on the Revelation was too wide for the Easton hub .
    Easton wasnt about to make dif sized hub caps till 2013 .
    So my shop swapped forks from another RM he had in stock (as it fit) .
    I saved a pound with the swap also
    I think the white fork looks better on it then the black one too
    Definitely looks stellar. I'm sure it will ride just as nice as it looks!

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    Now down to 26.14 pounds with more mods planned.

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    Now down to 26.14 pounds with more mods planned.

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    Ditto, very nice indeed. I got my 970 down to 26.75 (with pedals, tubeless, but bigger tires)... but then put a dropper post on so I've gone the other direction!

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    Hmm, my 970 is down to 24.9 lbs. You've got a long way to go

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    What was the 970's stock weight before your mods ?

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    24.9 is great - nice job.

    I believe the stock weight w/o pedals for a medium (either 17 or 18.5) is 26.6.

    I've gotten a custom built, 1500 gram wheel set (wtb i19, dt swiss comp spokes, chris King iso), but then put on WTB TCS 2.2 Bronson and 2.2 Wolverine tires and the FOX D.O.S.S. Mine is now just a hair over 28 pounds.

    I'll tell you this, I don't race, but I participated in a 46 mile, 7,000 ft elevation gain/climbing ride today and I wouldn't trade the tires or the dropper for the weight! Of course, I wish I could have both!

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    Cool! what size is the frame?

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    970 18.5
    Weight 26.69 with pedals.

    Changes
    Ec70 wide bar
    Foam grips
    Xtr trail brakes with 180 rotors
    Ikon tire front and rear
    Tubeless
    Time ti carbon pedals
    Enve setback post
    Specialized carbon phenom seat

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    I see that ccaddy is using an old tube as a chainstay protector . . . . is that the best option? Advice would be appreciated.

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    I put the tube on from day one because of no immediate alternative and Im
    looking .
    Top section is just electrical tape .
    I may try something else soon .
    Ive seen half sectioned plastic hose used but am
    unsure of its weight .
    Stay tuned .

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    Now at 26.12 .
    Just added a carbon cage , Ti rotor screws , Crank Brothers
    foam grips and a different seatpost clamp .
    Ive also come to the conclusion that I hate the Matchmaker
    mounts for the shifters and brakes .
    When I move the brake levers where I like them , the shifter
    arm pokes my thumbs so Im going to use independent mounts
    for them so I can get everything positioned where I like them .
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    Fuzzy half of self adhesive Velcro. Very quiet, light and sticks quite well.

    Quote Originally Posted by ccaddy View Post
    I put the tube on from day one because of no immediate alternative and Im
    looking .
    Top section is just electrical tape .
    I may try something else soon .
    Ive seen half sectioned plastic hose used but am
    unsure of its weight .
    Stay tuned .
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    Ahhhhhhhh...... :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccaddy View Post
    Ive also come to the conclusion that I hate the Matchmaker
    mounts for the shifters and brakes .
    When I move the brake levers where I like them , the shifter
    arm pokes my thumbs so Im going to use independent mounts
    for them so I can get everything positioned where I like them .
    In that photo youíre using the left bolt hole on the shifter, using the right one would move the shifter away from your thumb while maintaining the brake lever position.

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    Is there a SRAM bashguard for the OEM cranks and rings, being the S1400 with 24/38? I want to keep the stock cranks and rings, just add a bashguard and preferably a full circle guard rather than a BB attachment.

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    These are designed to fit on the outside of a 120mm BCD 2x10 crank. Might need a bit of futzing about to match the exact crank shape on the outside of the arms.

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    Just remove all my inner tube chain stay protectors and went with the female velcro as
    suggested by Rockyuphill .
    I got a yard of 1" and a yard of 1.5" for less then $3 .
    Weight went from 26.12 to 26.10 Whoo Hoo ,,,,, chipping away
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    The Chainstay I'm not crazy, but I really like the rest, especially the red anodized components.
    With a more streamlined saddle would be a beauty, but they depend on your ass ....
    Una Rocky e' per sempre,preferibilmente se fatta a mano.

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    nice bike man!

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    I just put some bikeshield on my chainstay. Light and you cannot spot it that easily.

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    I use a product called "frame wrap" for chain stays and seat stays. Look it up online...very effective, professional look and about $20 for a roll that will last you a long time.

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    The velcro is just an experiment .
    No loss if I dont care for it considering its price .
    That Frame Wrap , is that the product that they tested
    by wrapping a florescent light tube and letting a hammer
    swing into it ?

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    Since this thread is about 950 mods, I have to recommend swapping out the EA70. The deal is that easton uses small bolts (4mm), and the barrel nut is based on a std bolt but with a cheezy insert to downsize the nut's thread to accommodate the bolt. So the machined part in the nut's thread are large enough for 5mm bolt and then they've bonded the actual thread for the 5mm. This bonded thread isn't durable and creaking gave way to frayed/stripped threads.

    Trouble is you can't easily source a spare at most bike shops. They're parts bins will be filled with bolt/nut combo's too big to fit this EA70. I wish easton had just spec's a std bolt size and sucked up the weight.

    This is such a small detail that I really don't think RMB_PM could have caught it in the 2012 or 2013 spec, but ask they give this some thought before spec'ing EA70 again. A Turbine would have been better way to go...

    So my 2c is to go Reverb right away and just keep the EA70 for backup when reverb is in for service.

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    A dropper post is mostly relevant to the terrain you ride .
    West coast , BC , etc ..... sure .
    For me , in Southwestern Ontario (CAN) ...... it makes no sense terrain wise
    especially for the added weight .
    Set it and forget it

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    @ccdaddy, given your terrain and weight weeniness, why say this about 950? Surely the 970 or the Vertex are better match for you to 'set & forget'. 950 and BC Edition have bigger forks for tougher terrain, hence the Reverb would apply if you're using it as intended by RMB..

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    Quote Originally Posted by historeeteacher View Post
    I use a product called "frame wrap" for chain stays and seat stays. Look it up online...very effective, professional look and about $20 for a roll that will last you a long time.
    Oh THAT's frame wrap. When I have seen it on bikes I assumed it was electrical tape.

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    Islander - The 970 was out of my budget and the Vertex is a hardtail (not for me) .
    The "set it and forget it" was in reference to the seatpost height , not the bike ....
    (if that was what you were referring to ) .
    The stock Rockshox Rev RL was swapped for a Reba RL (less weight/travel )

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    Winter Additions - KMC X10 chain , Egg Beater 3's
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    Going to try a Tioga Spyder seat this year .
    Wasnt a lot of $ and the colour doesnt hurt
    either
    Shifters and R deraileur are now XO
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    RE Matchmaker positioning :

    "In that photo youíre using the left bolt hole on the shifter, using the right one would move the shifter away from your thumb while maintaining the brake lever position."

    - Sharp eye but unfortunately the second hole is not threaded to accept a bolt .
    Last edited by ccaddy; 06-04-2013 at 08:41 PM.

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    The XO drive train is now complete .
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    Also added these ASHIMA Ai2 rotors .
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    I discovered last night that the OEM tubes are labeled "thin". No kidding, mine popped in the parking lot. Add replacing OEM tubes to your lost of OEM mods.

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    Ive been rolling tubeless since day 3 ;-)

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    Yes there's that too. Have you been running the OEM aspen and ikon on the dt Swiss rims? If so how was changing that setup to tubeless? Which strip and valve core set did you use?

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    Im running the stock tires tubles on Easton EA 90 rims .

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    I forget your build but with the EA 90s I'm assuming your not running the RS Revelation fork or a 20mm thru axle?

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    I have the Rockshox Reba RL with a 9mm thru axle .
    I caps on the EA 90 hubs were too narrow for the
    20 mm axle of the Revolution .

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    Hi

    I am wanting to upgrade my rear shock on the 950 to a fox, what is the eye to eye measurment needed? also does it have to be a high volume shock?

    Matt

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    The shock is a 6.00" x 1.25". Your best bet is to order it to suit the Element 970 RSL so you get it factory valved and equipped with the correct air sleeve/canister.
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    Trying new carbon handlebar .My Element 950 mods-next-sl-bars.jpg

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    2013 - The Sidi grips fell apart before the 2013 season ended .
    The foam is firmer then most other foam grips and minor
    bumps and falls caused the Sidi foam to break .

    The Tioga Spider seat apparently isnt intended for off road use
    and the rails bent before season's end .
    Guess I didnt read the fine print .

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    Ready for 2014


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    Red brake lines , carbon seat , A2Z brake handlebar clamps , ESI Silicone grips , Hutchison UST Python tires .

    26.4 lbs

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    My Element 950 mods-2014-brake-clamps.jpgMy Element 950 mods-2014-l-side-steering-column-red-brake-lines.jpgMy Element 950 mods-2014-seat.jpg

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    Nice. You could drop around a pound going 1x10. You can get a direct mount no frop chainring as low as a 26 tooth.

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    That seat looks dangerous! I have the same one, but scared to put in on my bike... the back of it looks super sharp! Definitely lightweight though... but doesn't feel too comfy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerschwab View Post
    That seat looks dangerous! I have the same one, but scared to put in on my bike... the back of it looks super sharp! Definitely lightweight though... but doesn't feel too comfy.
    Oooh yeah! If you get caught the wrong way after hanging over the back of that then you could experience some kind of "removal" procedure!

    Nice bike BTW, probably a shade lighter than my 970 now, I think, though these bikes ride light, I don't really notice the extra couple of kilos over my Vertex RSL.
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    The first ride on the seat was fine . It was only an hr long but the only issue would of
    been my sit bones not "conditioned" yet .
    I will keep you posted .

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    It is a sweet bike by the way... not trying to downplay, just a question about the saddle is all (since I have the exact same one). I actually decided to use my full carbon saddle yesterday for a slightly less techy ride on familiar territory (where I wasn't too concerned about shorn scrotums, etc.). I rode for 2 hrs and at first it actually seemed like it might be comfortable, then after 1 1/2 hrs I felt it... and getting close to 2 hrs it was almost unbearable (to the point of me thinking I need to take it off immediately). Today I am a bit bruised and sore etc. not somethign I get from other saddles (unless riding for 3-4+ hours maybe). I just don't feel the seat is good in really any situation... the cost/benefit weight wise just isn't there for me. Unless the seat was really comfortable and the trail not really technical... then I'd rather just use something with some cushion. Anyhow, back to my favourite comfy 300gm Synchros. I think I'll not try to skimp weight on those key components (I also went back to lock on grips from the foam ones I had put on to save weight and went to heavy-ish XT disc brakes). I'm still at about 24lbs, so not bad...

    On another note, my super lightweight (ie. 140gm) carbon post broke from under me the other day too (see here). So back to something strong... not going to have that happen again!

    Cheers,

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    The seat was only $50 so if I dont like it , I still have the stocker .
    I dont mind trying different components to save weight if the cost
    isnt too prohibitive .
    I have a 24 Hr Race next month and for sure the carbon one will be coming off
    for that . LOL
    After a round of all the different trails I ride , I will make a judgement on the
    carbon seat .
    Thanks for the compliment Jeremy .
    What brand was your seatpost ?

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    Just cheap China carbon... I think it said Bontrager, but it's up in a tree somewhere on the trail where I tossed it. haha

    Cheers, good luck in the 24hr... sounds awesome!

    I just built my RSL a few months ago... loving it so far although botton bracket clearance is really low. Trying to get used to that. I have a few marathon races this year (I'm pretty new to racing)... Test of Metal, NIMBY 50, Gearjammer etc. Squamish/Pemberton stuff. Hard to get the training volume in, but I'm hoping to survive the 3-4 hours it will take!

    Cheers!

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    2012 Element 950

    I've been meaning to post up for a few months but kept forgetting.

    Anyways here is the swap list:
    2012 Easton Carbon Haven Wheelset
    Schwalbe RaRa (rear), tubeless
    Schwalbe (NN) front, tubeless
    Thomson MP seatpost
    EC70 wide bars
    EA90 stem, 120mm
    WTB Rocket V Team saddle (ti rails)
    RaceFace Strafe grips

    Extras:
    Time ATAC Absalon pedals
    EC90 bar ends/bull horns
    mucky nutz fender bender
    trail bell (hikers on some of my trails)
    light bracket
    VDO bike computer, bracket, wire & sensor
    bottle cage
    air pump cage bracket
    lizard skins chain stay protector

    With the above swap and extras list she comes in at 27.2 lbs. Given the pedals are listed at 350g and the bar ends I think are 80g maybe without all of the above extras she'd weigh about 26 lbs even?

    The only other mod I'm thinking about is swapping the U-turn cartridge in the RS revelation fork for a two-step cartridge but it'll run me $200 all-in for the convenience of not having to make 13 turns between 95mm and 120mm.
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