Element 950 frame creacking
I have about 2300 km on my 8 month old element 950.
These have mostly been very dry desert conditions.
How likely is it that the rear triangle bushings and bearings need to be cleaned.
They better not need to be replaced!
How much is a set for bushings and bearings?
The highest likelihood is that the pivot axles need grease. All metal-to-metal contact points between the axles and the bearings should be greased.
Thank you again, do you work for RM?
How can I find out which ones are metal-to-metal?
Will this void my warranty if I do it myself?
Are you sure it is not the seat/post? Clean and reassemble and see if that helps.
Nope, I don't work for Rocky, I'm just a long time rider of Rocky bikes. RMB-PM and RMB-PM2 are the forum members that are Rocky employees.
It's part of the typical service, so it is good to know how to do this. Here's the link to the page with the service videos
Technologies | Services
Yep , standing on pedals, compressing shock makes it creak.
Originally Posted by Phatass
Ok ordered a torque wrench, and gathered necessary tools.
I will tackle this next week-end.
1 How long does this approximately take?
2 Do I need a shock pump?
3 Is there a cut out drawing available of all parts involved?
4 If I find a bad bearing or bushing where can I find a replacement?
5 Is warranty voided?
Sorry lots of questions. Thanks for input
Here's a link to the technical manual with the parts list and exploded diagrams. If you need parts you need to get them from a Rocky dealer. Jenson USA - Online mountain & road bike parts, clothing and accessories shop is an authorized Rocky dealer.
You don't need to depressurize the shock to do the service, but you should have a shock pump to adjust the pressures on your fork/shock anyway. You'll want to get some Loctite threadlocker for re-assembly
The most time consuming part is removing the crank to get at the main pivot axle and it's the most likely one to need grease. If you just remove and grease the axles and put them back in, it might take 30-45 minutes. If you were changing the ABC bushings and a major cleaning and overhaul it might take 90 minutes.
If you're working on the ABC bushings, remember they get no lube, they should stay grease free to reduce dirt buildup. And the O-rings really are important to keep dirt out of the ABC bushings.
As long as you follow the instructions and don't reassemble it incorrectly, the warranty won't be affected.
Be very careful to avoid rounding out the Allen bolt heads, it's easy to do with tools that don't have nice crisp hex key edges or are not accurately sized. Don't use ball-driver type Hex keys in the suspension bolts, they are more likely to round out the Allen bolts
Thanks, I will let you know how it went.
By pushing and pulling (sideways) on the cranks and holding the frame I can duplicate the sound that my frame makes while riding.
I narrowed down the creaking to one of the top 3 bolts. The one that mounts the shock to the frame or the ABC's that are attached to the frame.
Will removing any of those 3 give me any issues for reassembly.
In other words if I remove those 3 and clean and regrease(minus ABC's), will reassembly be harder or impossible due to shock tension or any other reason?
TX for help
Start with the shock mount to the frame and see if that fixes it. Once you go beyond pulling the bolts and greasing them and putting them back in, and you get into the bushing removal and service, you will have to follow the complete procedure shown in the video.
Last edited by Learux; 03-12-2013 at 07:48 AM.
Not doubting your answer but looking at my bike. After I remove the
shock bolt attached to the frame are you sure that I can't take the abc bushings in the top tube apart, without taking the lower rear triangle off?
Or maybe the entire shock unit plus top link. Basically I don't want to remove my cranks,
Is that a prerequisite to do the job?
You could take the pivot axles/bolts out and grease the metal to metal contact points without needing to take the ABC bushings out, that's the most likely cause of creaking. But once you dismantle the suspension beyond those top bolts, you'll want to make sure you follow the video to make sure that you reassemble it in the right sequence. It's less complicated on the 29" Element than the 26" Element where the assembly sequence is critical.
OK, fixed my creaking. Took of shock mount to top tube, cleaned and greased per instructions.
Then took apart the top of shock link, cleaned and greased that per instructions.
Was much easier then anticipated and I am now the proud owner of a torque wrench.
Next time I will do the whole video but since I narrowed down the sound coming from that area and I want to ride before kids got home I did the partial disassembly.
Rockyuphill, tx so much for all your instruction. It is greatly appreciated!
Going for a test ride!
Good to hear the problem is solved.
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