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    2013 Altitude FAQ's

    Pretty stoked this is out in the public eye now... A lot of work on this project!

    1. Will it be available in 26" / 29"?

    -No. Altitude is a dedicated 27.5" only platform. Makes the most sense for what type of bike we are trying to build. If you disregard the wheel size, and focus on what we were trying to accomplish in terms of ride, it leads to one answer...

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    2. Will it be available as a frame only?

    -Yes, 790 MSL, incl Fox Factory Series Float CTD Kashima, with rear remote.

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    3. When will they be available?

    -Sometime just after Xmas...

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    4. What is the seat post routing?

    -MSL: Stealth only
    -Alu: Stealth AND External (along TT)
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    When is it available (specifically in Europe/UK/Ireland)?

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    Do you offer upgrades to previous Altitude owners?

    Kidding. Sweet rides guys.
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    New question here. When?

    Quote Originally Posted by RMB-PM View Post
    Pretty stoked this is out in the public eye now... A lot of work on this project!

    1. Will it be available in 26" / 29"?

    -No. Altitude is a dedicated 27.5" only platform. Makes the most sense for what type of bike we are trying to build. If you disregard the wheel size, and focus on what we were trying to accomplish in terms of ride, it leads to one answer...

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    2. Will it be available as a frame only?

    -Yes, 790 MSL, incl Fox Factory Series Float CTD Kashima, with rear remote.
    3. When will the Altitude 7xx's be shipping to retail (in Canada)?

    sh0rty :P
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    So with the Ride9 settings at the Setting 1 with 0 mm BB drop, is that a 13.75" BB height (without sag)? That would be nice.
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    I don't really care about the wheel size, the bike looks freaking rad and may be just up my ally. I have a 150front/145rear mm travel bike, sometimes wish I got a 160, but I do climb a lot, so this looks pretty freaking amazing. Any chance of getting the black and blue frame with the fox 34, fox rear, and shimano build? I LOVE that frame
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    Yep, really liking how this bike sounds on paper (and based on the early previews)!!

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    4. The MSL's come with the Reverb Stealth and obviously the cable routing needed, the aluminum bikes do not come with the Reverb Stealth... but do they have cable routing to add one?

    sh0rty :P

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    Can you comment on the differences in rear suspension design from the 09 to 12 altitude?

    I am stoked that you slackened the head angle on the new model; that is really the only thing that I don't like on my current altitude. I am trying a 650b front wheel right now to slacken it a bit.

    Love the new bike!

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    Does anyone have the Altitude Press Kit PDF they can post/share?

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    How about tire clearance in the back? The ELement is less then stellar here. How about the ALtitude, I assume the trail category must be able to use 2.4" tires.

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    Is there the option of using the direct mount shimano deraileur and a regular hanger for a current shimano derileur on the 790 frame? Just trying to figure out if i have drivetrain build for this bike in my parts box to get me started, and then have the options to upgrade later.
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    ... and if we just ...

    Quote Originally Posted by RMB-PM View Post
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    3. When will they be available?

    -Sometime just after Xmas...

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    4. What is the seat post routing?

    -MSL: Stealth only
    -Alu: Stealth AND External (along TT)
    Bummer on #3... awesome on #4!

    Thanks for following and responding on this forum RMB. :-)

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    In the Ride9 settings for lighter and heavier riders, what sort of rider weight ranges would be considered lighter and heavier?
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    I cannot find the Instinct bike on the Rocky website, even though it says the 2013 bikes are up. I took some pictures on the Eurobike and there was a really nice stealth looking black Instinct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zonoskar View Post
    I cannot find the Instinct bike on the Rocky website, even though it says the 2013 bikes are up. I took some pictures on the Eurobike and there was a really nice stealth looking black Instinct.
    Right here, at the bottom of XC Full Suspension.
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    OK, thanks! I was expecting a separate section for these bikes, but they put them with the Elements. No geometry data yet, shame. And only alu versions too, like the Element 29er of last year.


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    Any chance the new altitude will be at Outerbike this year?
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    I think I saw the new Altitude 650b protos at XCM Nationals in Quebec a couple of weekends ago, where Rocky had a tent. Looked hot!

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    What are the benefits of the new shock location, and why was this chosen? Experience with the performance on the Elements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    What are the benefits of the new shock location, and why was this chosen? Experience with the performance on the Elements?
    I'm wondering the same thing...

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    My hunch is that they were tinkering with shock tuning and were trying to think of some way to have the adjustability like the Flatline had, but not leave a bunch of holes in the shock mounting tabs. I'd bet that they were working on a way to get 3 positions and then they drew it and had a eureka moment and realized they could get a lot more options out of it (just because some of the really odd resulting numbers for head angle and BB height changes).

    There's been a few flippable washer inserts on bikes before, but having the flexibility to get 9 options out of two pieces of hardware is pretty cool.
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    Dirt Demo

    Is Rocky Mountain bringing an Altitude 790 MSL to Interbike Dirt Demo next week?

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    What are the estimated weights of the 790 and 770 MSL models? Must be pretty darn light!

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    Will they offer the 790 or any of the models as a frame or frame set option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB Pilot View Post
    Will they offer the 790 or any of the models as a frame or frame set option?
    Check the first post of the thread.
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    Thanks! I must have completely skipped #2. Wonder if one could acquire the OEM fork from them also...
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    I've got a question.
    Like a whole bunch of people I don't need (or want) 150mm of travel.
    Is there anyway that travel could be reduced to around 125 - 130mm?
    Love the look of the bike and the ride 9 is ingenius.
    I'm currently riding an alloy element with 650b with the shock shimmed to 110mm. Great bike but would like just a bit more travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mederz View Post
    I've got a question.
    Like a whole bunch of people I don't need (or want) 150mm of travel.
    Is there anyway that travel could be reduced to around 125 - 130mm?
    Love the look of the bike and the ride 9 is ingenius.
    I'm currently riding an alloy element with 650b with the shock shimmed to 110mm. Great bike but would like just a bit more travel.
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    Sounds like the 2013 RM Instinct is what you're looking for? Alloy 29er body with the Ride9 chip and 130mm travel on both ends...

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    Any chance the shimano xt 10 speed rear der. on the altitude 750 has the shadow feature?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richulr View Post
    Any chance the shimano xt 10 speed rear der. on the altitude 750 has the shadow feature?
    Hardly anybody specs non-Shadow Shimano rear derailleurs nowadays...
    The spec sheet at RM's website doesn't specify it, but a peek at the photo shows a Shadow derailleur.
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Can anybody comment on the Sun-Ringlé Inferno rims? They're used on the 770 MSL, 750 MSL and 750. Seems like the 770 MSL deserves a better wheel set...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bentyyc View Post
    Can anybody comment on the Sun-Ringlé Inferno rims? They're used on the 770 MSL, 750 MSL and 750. Seems like the 770 MSL deserves a better wheel set...?
    Inferno 25 | SUNRinglé

    Not a bad looking rim, still not that many 650B rim choices yet and even less that can supply quantity, so hitting reasonable price/performance points are a challenge. The Sun Inferno rim looks reasonably priced for the weight.
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    I too am interested in shimming rear end down to 120-130mm. 150 is way too much for my trails. Will it lower the BB? Built up a RSL Team converted to 650b for a race bike and love it but want some more squish for everyday use. Before the RSL, was 29er only since '05 and am sick of the 17.5" plus chainstays and not interested in 29er anymore. The RSL brought the fun back into east coast riding.

    Also, will the frame only option be available only with puke green highlights?

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    Why not go with the Instinct if you only need 130mm? You get bigger wheels, but everything else is identical (minus the carbon frame).

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    Why? Because MOST 29er full suspension bikes steer like the Titanic. They take all the fun out of skillful trail riding.
    Started at 26, had 6 29ers, been on 650 for the last 3 years. Now have a converted element 50 (plus a custom Dekerf). All fun, super fast, great climbing........
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    ^^^ Exactly, probably never go back to 29, well maybe a front wheel. Might just buy a blowout priced element msl and shim the shock.

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    Ok, just asking. My Element 970 doesn't steer like a boat at all, so maybe you were on the wrong 29ers all the time? Or maybe 29ers are better suited to XC than trail riding.

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    I was really surprised how nimble the Element 950 felt when I test rode it this past summer at Mont Sainte Anne. I had my Element 70 MSL there and had just come back from riding a loop of trails on the MSL and went back out on the same trails on the 950 (that weighed about 6 or 7 pounds more), and it felt pretty spritely on tight and twisty single track trails. If you're comparing 29er's from some other manufacturer, you owe yourself a test ride on a Rocky 29" FS bike.
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    Zonoskar,

    I've ridden the 29er element and I can tell you with absolute certainty that for ME and where I ride (Canadian Rockies) with steep, tight, technical singletrack (just like you find in Squamish) there is no comparison. The physics don't lie. The converted element 650b is shorter, tighter and stiffer, which for ME equals way more fun.
    When you've ridden a 650 you may see the difference - or you may not?
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    I have read that the difference between the 770 and 790 frames is an aluminum vs. carbon rear triangle, can anyone confirm this?

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    Yep...

    ALTITUDE 770 MSL

    FORM™ C13 Hi Mod Carbon Smoothwall Monocoque Front Triangle. FORM™ 7005 Series Custom Hydroformed Rear Triangle.

    ALTITUDE 790 MSL

    FORM™ C13 Hi Mod Carbon Smoothwall Monocoque.
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    Ya I saw that too, then got confused by this:

    Models | Rocky Mountain Bicycles 2013 Altitude

    Probably just a mix-up on the Altitude specific website

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    so, to clarify:

    ONLY the 790 DEFINITELY gets a rear carbon triangle, do I have that right?
    it's confuzeling.
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    Yep just the 790 has the carbon rear triangle
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    Any weights published on the 790 MSL?

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    Vital MTB tested one...

    2013 Rocky Mountain Altitude 790 MSL

    four stars out of five
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    2013 Altitude FAQ's

    Anybody know the shock length and stroke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydoug View Post
    Anybody know the shock length and stroke?

    7,875 x2,25"

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    How about, why go to market with an almost $3000 base model? I was really looking forward to this bike until I saw the price.

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