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    Thank you for the response. Yes, a handling concern question. I like an xc race geometry for everyday trail riding, but am not a fan of 9ers. Most frames avail in 26 (and to some extent 27.5) are pitched as am or trail, and tend to have higher bbs, slacker headtubes, and longer wheelbases. Not a fan of that geometry. Wondering wheelbase of your frames to compare to a bike I'm happy with in that respect (~42"/1070mm). I don't mind spending $$$ on something I'll love, but hate to spend $1100 to see if I'll love it (really, I should just trust that it'll be ok; it says Ritchey on it... but I tend to obsess about bigger purchases). I don't suppose there is any way to demo a built up bike? I'm in CO.


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    I don't have that particular number as it varies based on tires and fork used. Why do you ask? Are you just interested in handling characteristics. If that's the case, our chainstays on both these frames are on the slightly longer end to allow a more stable all day ride. Based on the fork and tires you choose you can increase or decrease this slightly. Let me know if you have a more specific question you want me to help answer.

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    All the P-Series frames lean more towards an XC geometry than all mountain. We do have P-650B demo bikes that we send around the country to retailers for their customers to try. Have your local shop give us a call. I think I have a 19" that should be available to ship within the next week.

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    Thank you for the response. Yes, a handling concern question. I like an xc race geometry for everyday trail riding, but am not a fan of 9ers. Most frames avail in 26 (and to some extent 27.5) are pitched as am or trail, and tend to have higher bbs, slacker headtubes, and longer wheelbases. Not a fan of that geometry. Wondering wheelbase of your frames to compare to a bike I'm happy with in that respect (~42"/1070mm). I don't mind spending $$$ on something I'll love, but hate to spend $1100 to see if I'll love it (really, I should just trust that it'll be ok; it says Ritchey on it... but I tend to obsess about bigger purchases). I don't suppose there is any way to demo a built up bike? I'm in CO.
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    That would be wonderful! Thank you so much! Next week or so is too soon; trails still snowed in here at 9600' with another foot or two expected from a spring storm this weekend. It'll be a few weeks yet til things open up and dry out. I'll contact you then; a parking lot test ride is pointless if I could do the real thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by ritchey_dave View Post
    All the P-Series frames lean more towards an XC geometry than all mountain. We do have P-650B demo bikes that we send around the country to retailers for their customers to try. Have your local shop give us a call. I think I have a 19" that should be available to ship within the next week.

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    Swiss Cross Disc dropout spacing?

    Hi Ritchey Dave,

    Do you know what the rear dropout spacing on the forthcoming Swiss Cross Disc model will be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by talabardio View Post
    Hi Ritchey Dave,

    Do you know what the rear dropout spacing on the forthcoming Swiss Cross Disc model will be?
    They'll be 135mm.
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    Any options to run a 10x135 thru axle on my Vantage II 29 rear wheel? I see you offer 12x142 but not 10x135. Maybe American Classic's kit could be made to work?

    I'm using the DT Swiss RWS 10x135 on my Stan's wheels and would like to use one on my Ritchey's as well.

    Thanks for any help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ritchey_dave View Post
    It is designed to work with both 140mm or 160mm (with adaptor) rotors. We're expecting them early June.
    I assume that ritchey carbon disk cx fork will be available soon?

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    I have a carbon superlogic seatpost and a Fizik MAg. rail saddle. when I torque the clamp bolt to 12Nm the saddle will still move when enough force is placed on the tip. it seems to lock the saddle rails ok but does not seem to lock into the carbon on the post.(yes I did check to make sure I have the correct clamp) is there a problem with different types of saddles? Any suggestions?

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    Hi Ritchey Dave,

    The Red on my P29er frame is worn away due to cable rub(by the headtube). Can you recommend the type of red nailpolish color I would get that can easily match this? (too many shades of Red out there)

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erhar View Post
    I assume that ritchey carbon disk cx fork will be available soon?
    Any news about the new cx fork from ritchey? I thought that by now it should have arrived.

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    oldgearsstillrolls - I have both the p-29er... and the p-team 26 and a friend bought the 27.5 after riding both of mine... I get off one and feel just as comfy on the other.... I've ridden loads of 29er steels, and loads of 26 steels.... I prefer XC oriented bikes. Even my Turner Flux only has a 100mm fork on it for a bit more racey feel....
    I ride tight tracks and all my friends struggle on their 29ers ..... while I am gone !... love them. Another friend is about to buy a p-29er after riding mine... he doesnt like his Niner Sir after riding mine. I even bought my wife a p-29er. Looking for a Plexus / p21/p23/niti and will wait for the new Fat Commando...
    You won't be disappointed.

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    I got a couple of questions Ritchey_Dave....
    The Fat Commando... when ? and will it stick with the 170mm rear end ?
    The Swiss Disc.... when? Will sell my Crux to complete the set
    Got any old plexus/p21/23/niti that can come to Australia ? No one has one to sell me here... no one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erhar View Post
    Any news about the new cx fork from ritchey? I thought that by now it should have arrived.
    Yes, they're supposed to arrive at our warehouse any day now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushrangermtb View Post
    I got a couple of questions Ritchey_Dave....
    The Fat Commando... when ? and will it stick with the 170mm rear end ?
    The Swiss Disc.... when? Will sell my Crux to complete the set
    Got any old plexus/p21/23/niti that can come to Australia ? No one has one to sell me here... no one....
    Glad to hear you're enjoying your Ritchey frames! The Commando should be available around October/November. The SwissCross Disc will be available around September.
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    When will the amazing P-29er be updated?

    Dear Dave,

    First of all I just want to thank you for all your quick answers to us Ritchey enthusiasts. I could go on for quite a bit praising Ritchey frames and solutions and the passion you put in them. But to keep it short... Last summer you teased us with an updated version of the P-29er (I attached you two pics of) which did not have the sliding dropouts but was for geared drivetrains only. Now I love the current P-29er (which I proudly own), but I can't wait to have that updated version as well... It was almost the same as the original P-29er, probably with the dropouts being the only difference. Please don't tell me that you ditch the plan to bring that out (), cause it was awesome! Thanks in advance for your time.

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    You more than welcome!

    As far as the frame, we haven't ditched the plan, but I can't talk about it just yet. Give me another month or two.

    Glad you're enjoying your frame!
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    Ritchey_dave,

    I am currently in the market for a Ritchey p-29 frame and looking to build one up. But i cant decide on a size. I am between 5'-11" and 6' with a 30-31 inseam. I currently have a large frame in the new 2015 cannondale trigger with 650b wheels. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ritchey_dave View Post
    Yes, they're supposed to arrive at our warehouse any day now.
    Any news?

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    Dear Dave,

    I am purchasing a new bike and have decided to make some upgrades before taking the bike out from the bikeshop.

    On of the ups is regarding the handlebar. I choose a Ritchey Superlogic x2 Carbon Fiber handlebar (SuperLogic Carbon 2X Mountain Bar) that, at that moment, seems to be the right choice due to the well known brand quality.

    Well, I am 35 years old, 90 kg, 1.87 m tall, and very concerned with safety, mainly regarding the handlebar. Searching at the internet I found an evaluation of various carbon fibers handlebars and I was terrified with the results obtained by Ritchey product.

    You should know the article I am talking about (http://www.syntace.com/download/pdf/...es_engl_LQ.pdf).

    This test was performed not to long ago. My doubt is the following: based on my body characteristics, should I use the supersonic handlebar with no fear or should I move to other brand/material?

    Just to let you know, my bike is a Scott 29er, carbon fiber frame, Rockshox SID fork and Syncrous FL 1.5 stem.

    Look forward to hearing you soon.

    Regards,

    Vanderlei

    Ps.: Sorry for my bad english, I am brazilian and wrote it in a hurry without revision

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    New question here. Ritchey Saddles - shape description

    Hello Ritchey_dave...

    Looking at the saddle offerings from Ritchey


    Could you describe the different models and their shape ie. flat front to back - curved side to side etc.

    Looking for something that is somewhat flat side to side with a bit of wave front to back.

    Thanks for the support

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    Straight side to side, with a slight wave front to back, is without question our Contrail saddles. Try one out, they have a 100% satisfaction guarantee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vmscotti View Post
    Dear Dave,

    I am purchasing a new bike and have decided to make some upgrades before taking the bike out from the bikeshop.

    On of the ups is regarding the handlebar. I choose a Ritchey Superlogic x2 Carbon Fiber handlebar (SuperLogic Carbon 2X Mountain Bar) that, at that moment, seems to be the right choice due to the well known brand quality.

    Well, I am 35 years old, 90 kg, 1.87 m tall, and very concerned with safety, mainly regarding the handlebar. Searching at the internet I found an evaluation of various carbon fibers handlebars and I was terrified with the results obtained by Ritchey product.

    You should know the article I am talking about (http://www.syntace.com/download/pdf/...es_engl_LQ.pdf).

    This test was performed not to long ago. My doubt is the following: based on my body characteristics, should I use the supersonic handlebar with no fear or should I move to other brand/material?

    Just to let you know, my bike is a Scott 29er, carbon fiber frame, Rockshox SID fork and Syncrous FL 1.5 stem.

    Look forward to hearing you soon.

    Regards,

    Vanderlei

    Ps.: Sorry for my bad english, I am brazilian and wrote it in a hurry without revision
    Forwarded this to our product development to team to take a look at, and maybe respond. I don't deal with the testing of our products but I do deal with the US warranties, and I can tell you our warranty department literally sees zero warranties of those bars breaking. Zero. Over-clamping and crashing are one thing, but as far as just riding along, nothing. Ride Ritchey products with confidence.
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    Dave, thanks for the support.. enjoy the products

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    I am loving my P-650b:

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    Kind of sad that I missed out on the newer frames with the tapered head-tubes, this was the one thing that made me hold out so long on buying (because I knew choices were limited). I wouldn't take it back since I have been riding my bike (not waiting on next year's model). Do you know if the new frame will be offered in multiple colors? Or if the colors in the US will be different than Europe? Also, will the P29r be offered with traditional dropouts in the US?

    Just found the following pictures on Bikeradar.com ( Ritchey 2015: new bars, stems, wheels and more from Eurobike - BikeRadar )

    2015 P-650b from Eurobike 2014:

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    what kind of steel is used to make thep-29 frame. The website says proprietary, but is it similar to 4130, 831, OX plat? Thanks.

    Jv

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    Dear Mate,

    Thanks a lot for your help with our Ritchey questions. Here's another one. As pics are starting to leak from Eurobike we now know that your new MTB frames will be tapered and with direct mount derailleurs and I'm sure there have been also other changes, but could you please tell us if the P-Team, the 650b and the new P-29er will continue to be available also in their iconic colourations? I'm not a big fan of the colour matches I'm seeing from Eurobike. I'm sure you had to do it for marketing reasons, but please remember the part of the fascination of owning a Ritchey frame has always been its ubercool looks. There was non need to follow what the others are doing (at least when it comes to how your bike should look). You (Ritchey) lead the way, you don't follow the others. Please let me know about colour options for your new steel frames.

    Respect!


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    And following on from the question above..... Does the new p-29 have a standard rear Ritchey dropout now? If so, might have to sell my existing p29 frame and get the new one!!!

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    Can you tell me what the "reach" measurement for the new swiss cross is?
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    Where is Ritchey Dave?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvossman View Post
    what kind of steel is used to make thep-29 frame. The website says proprietary, but is it similar to 4130, 831, OX plat? Thanks.

    Jv
    It's hard to say, as tubing is just one ingredient in many that ultimately add up to how a frame rides. I prefer to talk about the big picture and what Tom Ritchey's intentions were when designing this frame and the tubing used in making it. And that was to create a fast, race worthy frame, without sacrificing comfort and durability. Hopefully that will guide you in whether or not this is a frame to consider. Test ride one at one of our authorized Ritchey dealers to see exactly how it stacks up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RidingDopeFree View Post
    Dear Mate,

    Thanks a lot for your help with our Ritchey questions. Here's another one. As pics are starting to leak from Eurobike we now know that your new MTB frames will be tapered and with direct mount derailleurs and I'm sure there have been also other changes, but could you please tell us if the P-Team, the 650b and the new P-29er will continue to be available also in their iconic colourations? I'm not a big fan of the colour matches I'm seeing from Eurobike. I'm sure you had to do it for marketing reasons, but please remember the part of the fascination of owning a Ritchey frame has always been its ubercool looks. There was non need to follow what the others are doing (at least when it comes to how your bike should look). You (Ritchey) lead the way, you don't follow the others. Please let me know about colour options for your new steel frames.

    Respect!


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    Thanks for the kind words. The colors you're seeing in the Eurobike photos will be the only colors these frames will be offered in in 2015. Other changes are the obvious tapered head tubes, and the P-29er will no longer have sliding dropouts. I'm sorry to hear you're not that into the new colors. We love the red/white/blue color scheme but felt it was time for a change. We still have the old colors in stock though, so if that's your steez now's the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaipaki348 View Post
    And following on from the question above..... Does the new p-29 have a standard rear Ritchey dropout now? If so, might have to sell my existing p29 frame and get the new one!!!
    The 2015 version will have standard dropouts. Single speeders, hit this guy up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sachase View Post
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    Can you tell me what the "reach" measurement for the new swiss cross is?
    We just posted the new frames on the website with all their measurements.
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    hello dave,

    already owner of two rockymountain and one s-works cc hardtails - i now fell in love with your 650b. the 29er wheels even on hardtails are too clumsy in my opinion thats why i love your idea of a 650b hardtail.

    my questions are:

    - i admire the classic ritchey color style - is there any chance to get the 2015 model in red/blue/white? (don't want to buy the 2013 because it's too few forks today that fit)
    - when will the 650b 2015 be availible in germany?
    - what size you would recommend 17" or 19" (5' 11" rather long legs and arms)?
    - which fork fits better - 26" or 27,5" (100mm travel both max 2.2 tire)?
    - i will setup with sram xx1 and was wondering if it wouldn't have been better to place the holders for brake-tube on top and holders for shifting on bottom of the main frame-tube - so having a cleaner look with the missing front shifter cable?

    thanx in advance
    tom from munich/bavaria/germany

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    Yes, they're beautiful bikes aren't they?

    -The 2015 will be available in blue only. There are a handful of companies making 650b suspension forks, and believe it or not, that number is growing. So if you really love the color maybe now's the time.
    -The 2015 will likely be available around the January of 2015. Our distributor in Germany is one of the biggest and best partners of ours and will likely have them as soon as we have them available, but it is still up to when the bring them into stock.
    -27.5"
    -True if you're running XX1, but most people are still running front derailleurs. Regardless I'll mention it at our next product meeting.
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    thank you for superfast reply - this thread is a brilliant idea of you!

    regarding the forks - of course there are many 26" and some 27,5" - but what i meant was that for the 2013 model it's not easy to find them in 1 1/8" shaft today. all my other bikes have fox float forks and i want to stay with them. that's why i wait for the 2015 (sad sad sad - not the iconic three color scheme).

    ok - then i have to wait some weeks - and the ritchey 650b will get my winter project.

    what frame-size you would recommend 17" or 19" (180lbs, 5' 11" rather long legs and arms)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMuc View Post
    thank you for superfast reply - this thread is a brilliant idea of you!

    regarding the forks - of course there are many 26" and some 27,5" - but what i meant was that for the 2013 model it's not easy to find them in 1 1/8" shaft today. all my other bikes have fox float forks and i want to stay with them. that's why i wait for the 2015 (sad sad sad - not the iconic three color scheme).

    ok - then i have to wait some weeks - and the ritchey 650b will get my winter project.

    what frame-size you would recommend 17" or 19" (180lbs, 5' 11" rather long legs and arms)?
    HA! I thought that was kind of a weird question. Yeah, Fox Float forks are great. I think you could maybe get away with a 26" but it wouldn't ride as it was fully intended.

    I'd say probably 19" but I say that as starting point. To be sure, talk to a shop that knows fitting, you, and what you intend on doing with the bike (type of riding and parts you're going to use). All these things weigh heavily on what size will be best for you.
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    yup - fox are my first choice. based on your comment above i looked into the specs of the 650b ritchey carbon fork. the crown/axle distance is just between the 26" and 27,5" fox float (about 3/4 inch sag subtracted). this/you now convinced me to go with a 27,5" instead the 26" i planned before.

    as all my other bikes are between 18,5" and 19" i think the 19" will work best for me.

    thank you dave - helped me a lot
    have a good one
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomMuc View Post
    regarding the forks - of course there are many 26" and some 27,5" - but what i meant was that for the 2013 model it's not easy to find them in 1 1/8" shaft today. all my other bikes have fox float forks and i want to stay with them. that's why i wait for the 2015 (sad sad sad - not the iconic three color scheme).
    If you're willing to move away from the Fox fork, the X-Fusion Velvet is a 650b fork that is still available with a 1-1/8" non-tapered steerer and it rides great. I'm running this fork on my P-650b and love it. It's a little less adjustable than the Fox, but I think that it rides every bit as good as a Fox.
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    thanx for the alternative - but the reason for me to stay with fox forks is (beside they work well and last long) that i have three fox 32 on my other bikes and therefore have always some spare parts around, know how to assemble/disassemble and can easily do maintainace on my own ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtb_jeremy View Post
    I am loving my P-650b:

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    Kind of sad that I missed out on the newer frames with the tapered head-tubes, this was the one thing that made me hold out so long on buying (because I knew choices were limited). I wouldn't take it back since I have been riding my bike (not waiting on next year's model). Do you know if the new frame will be offered in multiple colors?
    hi jeremy,

    really really nice bike

    as i'm on the way building a p-650b over the winter i'm not shure which size to choose 17" or 19". what size do you have and what is your height and inner leg length (me 5' 11" and 34")?

    thanks in advance
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    p.s. is this a 26" fork in your bike?

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    For your height I would say 19" frame. I am 5' 9", but also have a short inseam (30") for my height so I wanted the stand-over clearance of the 17. My torso ends up being longer, so I have a 120mm stem to help me out in that area.

    The fork is a Formula 33, which was advertised by Formula as being both 26 and 27.5 compatible. It was one of the lightest options I found that had a straight steerer. Searching on the Internet I found an awesome deal from an overseas store, since it wasn't readily available in the US. If it wasn't for this fork, my next choice would have been a Fox. The older 26" forks (pre-2013, I think) had enough clearance to work, but Fox has also said that you can take an older 26" fork (for the straight steerer) and swap on 27.5 lowers to get their current standard arch clearance. Next fork option for me would have likely been a X-Fusion Velvet.

    Honestly, if you don't have the frame already, are set on the idea of a suspension fork, and are considering the 2015 model with tapered head-tube then I would go that way. I was debating getting what I got because of the straight head-tube, but came across a deal on the frame that was too good to pass up. I don't regret it, but I tend to ride my bikes for a long time and would be annoyed if the fork needs replacing at some point in the future.

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    hi jeremy - thanx for reply! yup i decided to go with the 2015 model having the tapered head because there are more (and cheaper) fork options at the moment over here in germany. a downside for me is the new color since i love the traditional ritchey color scheme of your bike. btw your 650b is the nicest i found on the internet - all parts and dimensions fit perfect (inclusive the ubercool bottle).

    regarding the framesize i'm still not shure 17" or 19". my s-works hardtail (26") which fits perfect for me has a top tube length 600mm (595mm is the 17" ritchey) ...

    jeremy what is your actual saddle height (from center bottom bracket to top of saddle) and how long is your seatpost?

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    I measured and the top of the seat to the center of the bottom bracket is 27.375 inches (695mm). The seatpost is the Ritchey WCS Carbon Trail seatpost, which is 400mm and for my setup has 9 inches (228 mm) exposed (measured from top of seatube on frame to seat rail in the clamp).

    This is the only seatpost I have used on this bike, between the carbon seatpoat and the frame it does a real nice job smoothing out the vibrations and impacts. This is a big improvement for me over my previous bike, 1996 Diamondback Axis (26") with Ritchey Logic tubing. That has a Thompson Elite and while the steel provides some compliance it is noticeably stiffer.

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    Thanks ritchey-dave for all the help. I'm assuming the 15 P29er is a 135 rear? Any plans to also offer a 142? Thanks.

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    Yes, they have a 135mm spacing. No plans at the moment for a 142mm version of this frame, but things can change quickly if the market starts really asking for it.
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    Thanks Dave. Well, put men down as wanting 142..wheel swap between bikes is the reason.

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    Hello I have just purchase a wcs disc fork with serial number ghg001095 just wondering what the rake is and if I can get any instructions. It's missing comp plug is there any one you recommend also. What type of race is this also
    thanks
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    Hey Dave, Will the p-29 accept xx1 crank with 156Q ?
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hdpearson13 View Post
    Hello I have just purchase a wcs disc fork with serial number ghg001095 just wondering what the rake is and if I can get any instructions. It's missing comp plug is there any one you recommend also. What type of race is this also
    thanks
    The rake on that fork is 48mm. I'd use a expander type plug since it has carbon steer tube. Can't speak to the race, could be anything. I'd have it removed and use whatever race comes with the headset you plan to use. Most bike shops will have a special tool for removing crown races.
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